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Indies verifiably can’t have made a kill last night, and town vig should not have made any of those kills unless they were going for unsubstantiated hero shot.
Its either the courier or that Three legged white lotus in mafia
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You seriously don’t think we could all be town?Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:14 amI think there Iso is mid and idm if the slot goes over but if it's a villager we are voting in Mac/Scotty until 1 of them flips red.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:11 amEhhhhh idk brad can be b****y as mafia sometimes too now tbhChelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:08 amBrad takes potshots at everyone that isn't a woman.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:07 amIdk I'd have to read more than broseph and Brad going back and forth while Brad takes potshots at every other dude in the game and that seems like work smhsmhChelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:06 amNot much, finishing paperwork, eating a brownie.
Mafia sux go find them for me so I can sheep o7
But good news me and him are both in our town meta come join the towncore baby with Lanmisa <3
Do you think Sean is town
Oh! Right, I forgot about this.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:13 pm Chelsea, Manny, Scotty, TSP, LC, Jack level 1 POE off wago. Probably 1 between Epi and Falcon due to the RO3 on the Seanzie wagon (unless Seanzie is mafia and I'm misreading the NKA).
Jack's EOD felt the most like "I'm just here so I won't get fined". Scotty at least was progressing the game so I will do the due diligence of trying to read you in good faith and solve with you and see if we can find a way to obv town you through townsiding. Chelsea feels like a reliably likely wolf, though probably not w/w with Manny, who I actually do think is the towniest in the list. Don't think LC hit town notes, and Jack had him as a member of his towncore so @Jackofhearts2005 elaborate on your LC read in a way that I can believe or I'll lock POE you.
@TonyStarkPrime speed up your curve and get towny or die.
@falcon45ca dome @Epignosis.
What part of this is confusing?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:12 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:54 pm Much as I don’t see any reason to sleepwalk into another D1-2 Sig shrugyeet, I wouldn’t invoke dadv in this situation considering the number of ppl missing.
Spoiler: showI kinda expect him to just not show up at eod regardless of alignment, lady’s man that he is.
Okay you said this post was wolfy but in a towny way. It isn't apparent to me what that means at all. Can you explain your brain function there?
Yeah, I getcha.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:24 amHi, Scotty, I think I asked you yesterday already but I'd like your help in building a stance on Dunnstral who flies a bit under my personal radar. I see that you read him off of personal interactions, which is something I tend to do as well, but do you have experience with Dunn? Like, you are afraid of a potential deep wolf but have you seen Dunn take such strategies before or is that a general "I don't want to be snowed" stance?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 amI should mention because I was thinking of Seanzie- he would’ve been a GREAT vig target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
If we had a vig, I would have assumed they would’ve shot yesterday. I do not think we have a vig (this is all based on how I would play of course)
Anyway, 3 town? Hmmmmm
So I did some thinking in the night and Dunnstral should be town, but I’m actually thinking they could be exactly a deepwolf in the making. The way they were pocketing me was very smooth and I chalked it up to me just being town as shit yesterday (I know, I know, only a few groupies agreed) but I think I might be getting it all wrong. Might be. Too scared to vote there tho.
That didn’t answer your question.
LanMila had some good back and forth. Not tooo blendy, and not scared to make reads.
Ironically, I think you came out of yesterday being pretty towny. I’ve flip flopped on you in my head and will probably do so as the day goes on, but for now you’re town to me.
I was coming around on Creature. He has emerged in the back half of the day as someone I wouldn’t mind borrowing my sugar
Like, I get the aspect of questioning everything but being too paranoid can destroy town cohesiveness.
Going against the grain Mac hunting feels towny. I think you’re town.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:36 amOkay, so imagine me being on page 21, seeing you make more reasonable posts, playing much more akin to how I'd expect you to play as town, having a take on Chelsea that got me thinking (alongside Scotty's take the page before)... and then you drop the bolded and I'm back to shaking my head. Like, what is this kind of post going to achieve here? Are you wolfing or are you just intentionally trying to stay alive longer by acting wolfy between solving?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:10 am I haven't read the whole game but I read enough to get to confidence with these reads. I also actually think Epignosis has kind of softed himself as the Courierrole but I'm not really 3p hunting because frankly it does not comply with how I read games in that I sort people by the level of believability in the choices they make.
Which now that I have articulated, kind of ... makes me see Chelsea ever so slightly more favourably. And also Creature. So I suppose I could call them upper POE, with Jack, Bradley and Falcon as the lower POE.
Trying to figure you out is most likely going to be the most frustrating experience in this game. You switch so hard between extremely wolfy and very towny, sometimes between pages... I really have no idea where I should sort you.
Gonna leave the vote for now while I read more posts but... I feel like I need to see your flip this game before I feel safe to put you into any category this time.
My perception of Dunnstral changed actually because of something you just said ... kind of "Isn't afraid to ask pointed questions"... I felt like they did ask a lot of questions, but many of them seemed like softballs , and I didn't really see what they did with them. Did they synthesize the answers into anything, or are they just asking questions to look engaged? I had a hard time saying they did the first thing, and I looked at ONE of their quoted town games, and at least early game, they didn't look anything like this.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:24 pmYeah, I getcha.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:24 amHi, Scotty, I think I asked you yesterday already but I'd like your help in building a stance on Dunnstral who flies a bit under my personal radar. I see that you read him off of personal interactions, which is something I tend to do as well, but do you have experience with Dunn? Like, you are afraid of a potential deep wolf but have you seen Dunn take such strategies before or is that a general "I don't want to be snowed" stance?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 amI should mention because I was thinking of Seanzie- he would’ve been a GREAT vig target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
If we had a vig, I would have assumed they would’ve shot yesterday. I do not think we have a vig (this is all based on how I would play of course)
Anyway, 3 town? Hmmmmm
So I did some thinking in the night and Dunnstral should be town, but I’m actually thinking they could be exactly a deepwolf in the making. The way they were pocketing me was very smooth and I chalked it up to me just being town as shit yesterday (I know, I know, only a few groupies agreed) but I think I might be getting it all wrong. Might be. Too scared to vote there tho.
That didn’t answer your question.
LanMila had some good back and forth. Not tooo blendy, and not scared to make reads.
Ironically, I think you came out of yesterday being pretty towny. I’ve flip flopped on you in my head and will probably do so as the day goes on, but for now you’re town to me.
I was coming around on Creature. He has emerged in the back half of the day as someone I wouldn’t mind borrowing my sugar
Like, I get the aspect of questioning everything but being too paranoid can destroy town cohesiveness.
I’ve never played with Dunn (or you for that matter) so personal feeling is all I’ve got.
Dunnstral is hitting all the right notes. Isn’t afraid to ask pointed questions. In some ways, has been parroting my thought process in their own way. All of that rings town to me.
On the other hand, because I don’t know them as a player I’m putting up a shield because of how smooth they are. I’m putting up this tinfoil now because I think if they’re town, and we start producing I’ll feel better. But if they’re still alive after a couple phases, it might be time to reassess
Ah.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:07 pmHomie it's not poignant agenda. It's a straightforward read. The top and third top posters died and you were the second top poster. That points at you in a level 1 way. Trying to dress up a reasonable analysis as agenda is actually wolfier than what merited the read in the first place. Play a straight bat Scotty.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:58 pm Hello fellow strip citizens how do you do
Here’s that description again.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:02 amI don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:00 amI guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:58 pmJackMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
Dunnstral
LanMisa
I'm a bigger hoarder than a giant pack rat, the first non-stability mod i install in any Bethesda game is the equivalent of bandoliers for extra storage (yes I could just turn off the storage limit but I need some sort of artifical limit or I'd quite literally never be able to find anything)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:49 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:58 pm Hello fellow strip citizens how do you do
Justify inventory weight limits as a game mechanic or die.
The second post is the first time it was mentioned (by me). It was actually about TSP though, not you (mah bad).Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:51 pmHere’s that description again.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:02 amI don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:00 amI guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:58 pmJackMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
Dunnstral
LanMisa
First off, today I learned that one of your posts has a link to a vocaroo. You made a second post with a picture of a radio, but that one does not have a link. Is it supposed to.
Please point on the doll to where the bad posts are?Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:57 amI think TSP and Falcon need to post more to get any sort of read on them (although others think they've posted enough take it as you will)LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 amWhile I do feel okay with your catchup that I saw so far I don't see a Scotty wolf world here and I think that basing a read off of pre-flip associations is iffy.Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:51 am Falcon I just want to play more, it's the slot you probably want to vig shoot over exeing because there's just nothing in it. The can't make lylo player until they post well. . .any opinion. (Curious as I wasn't expecting Lime and Dunnstral to also be on here. Did Dunn's LHF clause only count for D1?)
I have Longcon as a villager because they're not wolf with Mac or Scotty and if both those slots are a villager with how high volume of their. . .confidence we're in trouble. (I think Scotty's wolf equality is pretty high though) Independent of that the convo with Lanmisa felt pretty good so yeah.
I agree with Long Con's approach to me being towny though.
Also, the post after you went "TSP or Falcon, then Scotty or Sean" and I cannot follow that kind of logic. Would you do that regardless of who dies D2 and regardless of their alignment or...?
I think Sean and Scotty have had bad posts in general. Does that explain it?
Dammit falcon, I agree with all those points. Like all of them. GET OUT OF MY HEADfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:30 amOkay, but what's your stances on the game? Where is your head at? What do you think about your wagon, and why?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 am
You can find me on sonar or lidar, but I am immune to radio waves
I don't think I've seen you post much content I found meaningful and I'd rather see more.
I don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen again
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
ah k, I see your reasoning.Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:07 amI don't think solving posts in and of themselves are towny, and they certainly aren't where I play from. I've seen this statement tossed out by more than just you but unless a player is extremely polarized the amount of solving posts they make has nothing when actions and results also need to be taken account for. Let us just assume for example I am getting snowed by wolf!Lime (and that's giving a lot of BTOD) I think a lot of Scotty's posting has been very wolf-agenda coded. Esp early posting.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amWhich posts from Scotty are bad? I see nothing but forward-thinking and solving posts from Scotty and I disagree hard with that stance.Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:57 amI think TSP and Falcon need to post more to get any sort of read on them (although others think they've posted enough take it as you will)LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 amWhile I do feel okay with your catchup that I saw so far I don't see a Scotty wolf world here and I think that basing a read off of pre-flip associations is iffy.Chelsea wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:51 am Falcon I just want to play more, it's the slot you probably want to vig shoot over exeing because there's just nothing in it. The can't make lylo player until they post well. . .any opinion. (Curious as I wasn't expecting Lime and Dunnstral to also be on here. Did Dunn's LHF clause only count for D1?)
I have Longcon as a villager because they're not wolf with Mac or Scotty and if both those slots are a villager with how high volume of their. . .confidence we're in trouble. (I think Scotty's wolf equality is pretty high though) Independent of that the convo with Lanmisa felt pretty good so yeah.
I agree with Long Con's approach to me being towny though.
Also, the post after you went "TSP or Falcon, then Scotty or Sean" and I cannot follow that kind of logic. Would you do that regardless of who dies D2 and regardless of their alignment or...?
I think Sean and Scotty have had bad posts in general. Does that explain it?
I agree with Sean (talked about that yesterday enough) but got a more neutral feeling at the end of yesterday.
What makes TSP/Falcon different from Sean (not Scotty) with regards how you want to tackle them phase-wise?
i find it hard to find the stances they've taken this game believable considering the 2 main wagons yall ended up on and then now are deciding "ah yes we must simply follow the same outlook." There's almost no sense of what feels to me genuine reflection or town trying to figure out the game. If you have really good reasons to TR them I'd like to hear it.
You can have low posts and still be wolfy and while I feel TSP/Falcon had next to 0 AI posts Sean's posting clearly had some attempts to them. I need more from TSP/Falcon to general to get a read on them, I don't with Sean.
Kinda where I’m at
My activity level is not AI. If anything, lately, my wolf rands have = top poster status.
Ugh yeah I didn’t check for a followupSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:33 pmMy perception of Dunnstral changed actually because of something you just said ... kind of "Isn't afraid to ask pointed questions"... I felt like they did ask a lot of questions, but many of them seemed like softballs , and I didn't really see what they did with them. Did they synthesize the answers into anything, or are they just asking questions to look engaged? I had a hard time saying they did the first thing, and I looked at ONE of their quoted town games, and at least early game, they didn't look anything like this.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:24 pmYeah, I getcha.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:24 amHi, Scotty, I think I asked you yesterday already but I'd like your help in building a stance on Dunnstral who flies a bit under my personal radar. I see that you read him off of personal interactions, which is something I tend to do as well, but do you have experience with Dunn? Like, you are afraid of a potential deep wolf but have you seen Dunn take such strategies before or is that a general "I don't want to be snowed" stance?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 amI should mention because I was thinking of Seanzie- he would’ve been a GREAT vig target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
If we had a vig, I would have assumed they would’ve shot yesterday. I do not think we have a vig (this is all based on how I would play of course)
Anyway, 3 town? Hmmmmm
So I did some thinking in the night and Dunnstral should be town, but I’m actually thinking they could be exactly a deepwolf in the making. The way they were pocketing me was very smooth and I chalked it up to me just being town as shit yesterday (I know, I know, only a few groupies agreed) but I think I might be getting it all wrong. Might be. Too scared to vote there tho.
That didn’t answer your question.
LanMila had some good back and forth. Not tooo blendy, and not scared to make reads.
Ironically, I think you came out of yesterday being pretty towny. I’ve flip flopped on you in my head and will probably do so as the day goes on, but for now you’re town to me.
I was coming around on Creature. He has emerged in the back half of the day as someone I wouldn’t mind borrowing my sugar
Like, I get the aspect of questioning everything but being too paranoid can destroy town cohesiveness.
I’ve never played with Dunn (or you for that matter) so personal feeling is all I’ve got.
Dunnstral is hitting all the right notes. Isn’t afraid to ask pointed questions. In some ways, has been parroting my thought process in their own way. All of that rings town to me.
On the other hand, because I don’t know them as a player I’m putting up a shield because of how smooth they are. I’m putting up this tinfoil now because I think if they’re town, and we start producing I’ll feel better. But if they’re still alive after a couple phases, it might be time to reassess
All right, now I KNOW Epi’s wolfing. He has a typo on his billboard. Wolf.
I'm honestly but positively surprised that you can decipher all of that. One issue is that the low volume also doesn't really tell us if any of these reads come and go; I remember seeing that read on me early D1 and... quite a bit of time has passed since then.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:17 pm
I wanna keep this around, if only because I want to hear more about Scotty brand toilet paper.
Summarizing Epi’s reads:
-he trusts LanMila and we should sheep that
-Lime Coke had his spats with Seanzie and I and we should keep Lime Coke around
-War never changes
At least that’s what I got out of it
That looks...reasonable I guess? Would love to see you give a bit deeper of an insight on Lime though; considering that Lime seems to be the main talking point of D2 so far.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:04 am1) Do you have prior experience with Epi and what we should expect from them?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amI don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen againLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:30 amOkay, but what's your stances on the game? Where is your head at? What do you think about your wagon, and why?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 am
You can find me on sonar or lidar, but I am immune to radio waves
I don't think I've seen you post much content I found meaningful and I'd rather see more.
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
2) Do you think that people are usually honest with regards to self-meta? Also, wouldn't that make it easier for a wolf to just "playbook" their own self-proclaimed meta? Do you have prior experience playing with Dunn that would back up that self-meta claim?
3) LC's anger feels less game-related and more player-related, considering that they want to clobber Sean in real life while almost begging to be yeeted. I don't think that they are related here. What else do you read LC off?
1. Yes, and I find Epi does exactly what he's doing now when he's wolf, passively engages the thread in a way that makes him difficult to read
2. Yes, but w/ varying degrees of accuracy, as it can be difficult for ourselves to actually understand our own meta.
2A. That's exactly my point
2B. No
3. Nothing, I've not skimmed much outside of the aggro stuff
Cut out some previous posts for better readability and spoilered a bit that's irrelevant to your points:Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:37 amI think TSP should come and join, but honestly out of the people who IMO are not giving enough content, they're actually on the low-end of worry. This is mostly meta, but this TSP doesn't give me the same notes as the wolf!TSP that will pretend like they don't care about a game. This TSP I think is actually just not engaged.
Out of the people who I would really like to see more of, from most concerning to least concerning I think is:
Nanook
Jack
Falcon
TSP
Creature could possibly go on this list as well, but their ISO did have some spots that looked very town!Creature-y (even though I have definitely seen him do some solving as wolf!Creature), and Falcon I just haven't actually attempted to read, so meh, his place on this list might be more due to me than him. Nanook IMO stands above the rest since some things he has done is IMO strongly associated with how Nanook sometimes wolfs.
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:51 pmDammit falcon, I agree with all those points. Like all of them. GET OUT OF MY HEADfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:30 amOkay, but what's your stances on the game? Where is your head at? What do you think about your wagon, and why?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 am
You can find me on sonar or lidar, but I am immune to radio waves
I don't think I've seen you post much content I found meaningful and I'd rather see more.
I don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen again
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
Ah, yeah, that's a fair stance. If we do get into a situation where we are clearly on the wrong path everything needs to be re-evaluated anyways. Let's do our best to not let it get there.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:24 pmYeah, I getcha.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:24 amHi, Scotty, I think I asked you yesterday already but I'd like your help in building a stance on Dunnstral who flies a bit under my personal radar. I see that you read him off of personal interactions, which is something I tend to do as well, but do you have experience with Dunn? Like, you are afraid of a potential deep wolf but have you seen Dunn take such strategies before or is that a general "I don't want to be snowed" stance?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 amI should mention because I was thinking of Seanzie- he would’ve been a GREAT vig target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:14 pm @Scotty give me your top 3 town please.
@Seanzie yours too please.
If we had a vig, I would have assumed they would’ve shot yesterday. I do not think we have a vig (this is all based on how I would play of course)
Anyway, 3 town? Hmmmmm
So I did some thinking in the night and Dunnstral should be town, but I’m actually thinking they could be exactly a deepwolf in the making. The way they were pocketing me was very smooth and I chalked it up to me just being town as shit yesterday (I know, I know, only a few groupies agreed) but I think I might be getting it all wrong. Might be. Too scared to vote there tho.
That didn’t answer your question.
LanMila had some good back and forth. Not tooo blendy, and not scared to make reads.
Ironically, I think you came out of yesterday being pretty towny. I’ve flip flopped on you in my head and will probably do so as the day goes on, but for now you’re town to me.
I was coming around on Creature. He has emerged in the back half of the day as someone I wouldn’t mind borrowing my sugar
Like, I get the aspect of questioning everything but being too paranoid can destroy town cohesiveness.
I’ve never played with Dunn (or you for that matter) so personal feeling is all I’ve got.
Dunnstral is hitting all the right notes. Isn’t afraid to ask pointed questions. In some ways, has been parroting my thought process in their own way. All of that rings town to me.
On the other hand, because I don’t know them as a player I’m putting up a shield because of how smooth they are. I’m putting up this tinfoil now because I think if they’re town, and we start producing I’ll feel better. But if they’re still alive after a couple phases, it might be time to reassess
I'll...not go there today(this phase), I am clearly biased at that point, but getting bullied in broad daylight does that to you.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:26 pmGoing against the grain Mac hunting feels towny. I think you’re town.LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:36 amOkay, so imagine me being on page 21, seeing you make more reasonable posts, playing much more akin to how I'd expect you to play as town, having a take on Chelsea that got me thinking (alongside Scotty's take the page before)... and then you drop the bolded and I'm back to shaking my head. Like, what is this kind of post going to achieve here? Are you wolfing or are you just intentionally trying to stay alive longer by acting wolfy between solving?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:10 am I haven't read the whole game but I read enough to get to confidence with these reads. I also actually think Epignosis has kind of softed himself as the Courierrole but I'm not really 3p hunting because frankly it does not comply with how I read games in that I sort people by the level of believability in the choices they make.
Which now that I have articulated, kind of ... makes me see Chelsea ever so slightly more favourably. And also Creature. So I suppose I could call them upper POE, with Jack, Bradley and Falcon as the lower POE.
Trying to figure you out is most likely going to be the most frustrating experience in this game. You switch so hard between extremely wolfy and very towny, sometimes between pages... I really have no idea where I should sort you.
Gonna leave the vote for now while I read more posts but... I feel like I need to see your flip this game before I feel safe to put you into any category this time.
Mac doesn’t come off as wolfy to me atm. Granted, I feel like I’ve only played a few games with wolf Mac and he seemed more chaotic, but that was a bit ago now.
LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:36 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:04 am1) Do you have prior experience with Epi and what we should expect from them?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amI don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen againLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:30 amOkay, but what's your stances on the game? Where is your head at? What do you think about your wagon, and why?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 am
You can find me on sonar or lidar, but I am immune to radio waves
I don't think I've seen you post much content I found meaningful and I'd rather see more.
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
2) Do you think that people are usually honest with regards to self-meta? Also, wouldn't that make it easier for a wolf to just "playbook" their own self-proclaimed meta? Do you have prior experience playing with Dunn that would back up that self-meta claim?
3) LC's anger feels less game-related and more player-related, considering that they want to clobber Sean in real life while almost begging to be yeeted. I don't think that they are related here. What else do you read LC off?
1. Yes, and I find Epi does exactly what he's doing now when he's wolf, passively engages the thread in a way that makes him difficult to read
2. Yes, but w/ varying degrees of accuracy, as it can be difficult for ourselves to actually understand our own meta.
2A. That's exactly my point
2B. No
3. Nothing, I've not skimmed much outside of the aggro stuff
That looks...reasonable I guess? Would love to see you give a bit deeper of an insight on Lime though; considering that Lime seems to be the main talking point of D2 so far.
Hm, okay, I can kind of see that. I'm also unsure about how to proceed with someone who felt earlier like wanting to be hoisted; players giving up feels a bit disheartening regardless of their alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:13 pmYa know, I might, just cuz' you asked so niceLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:36 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:04 am1) Do you have prior experience with Epi and what we should expect from them?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amI don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen againLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:30 amOkay, but what's your stances on the game? Where is your head at? What do you think about your wagon, and why?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:28 am
You can find me on sonar or lidar, but I am immune to radio waves
I don't think I've seen you post much content I found meaningful and I'd rather see more.
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
2) Do you think that people are usually honest with regards to self-meta? Also, wouldn't that make it easier for a wolf to just "playbook" their own self-proclaimed meta? Do you have prior experience playing with Dunn that would back up that self-meta claim?
3) LC's anger feels less game-related and more player-related, considering that they want to clobber Sean in real life while almost begging to be yeeted. I don't think that they are related here. What else do you read LC off?
1. Yes, and I find Epi does exactly what he's doing now when he's wolf, passively engages the thread in a way that makes him difficult to read
2. Yes, but w/ varying degrees of accuracy, as it can be difficult for ourselves to actually understand our own meta.
2A. That's exactly my point
2B. No
3. Nothing, I've not skimmed much outside of the aggro stuff
That looks...reasonable I guess? Would love to see you give a bit deeper of an insight on Lime though; considering that Lime seems to be the main talking point of D2 so far.
Sean's early take re: Maf Lime being afraid to engage isn't part of his meta that I'm aware of, so I prodded Lime
His response seems like foreshadowing now re: mods, and looking at his early posting, I'm not seeing any real engagement w/ anyone in a way that suggests he's actually trying to solve
LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:18 pmHm, okay, I can kind of see that. I'm also unsure about how to proceed with someone who felt earlier like wanting to be hoisted; players giving up feels a bit disheartening regardless of their alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:13 pmYa know, I might, just cuz' you asked so niceLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:36 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:04 am1) Do you have prior experience with Epi and what we should expect from them?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 amI don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen again
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
2) Do you think that people are usually honest with regards to self-meta? Also, wouldn't that make it easier for a wolf to just "playbook" their own self-proclaimed meta? Do you have prior experience playing with Dunn that would back up that self-meta claim?
3) LC's anger feels less game-related and more player-related, considering that they want to clobber Sean in real life while almost begging to be yeeted. I don't think that they are related here. What else do you read LC off?
1. Yes, and I find Epi does exactly what he's doing now when he's wolf, passively engages the thread in a way that makes him difficult to read
2. Yes, but w/ varying degrees of accuracy, as it can be difficult for ourselves to actually understand our own meta.
2A. That's exactly my point
2B. No
3. Nothing, I've not skimmed much outside of the aggro stuff
That looks...reasonable I guess? Would love to see you give a bit deeper of an insight on Lime though; considering that Lime seems to be the main talking point of D2 so far.
Sean's early take re: Maf Lime being afraid to engage isn't part of his meta that I'm aware of, so I prodded Lime
His response seems like foreshadowing now re: mods, and looking at his early posting, I'm not seeing any real engagement w/ anyone in a way that suggests he's actually trying to solve
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions, Falcon. Anything you want to ask me, for a change?
That is....actually a very good question, to be honest.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:28 pmYeah actually...LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:18 pmHm, okay, I can kind of see that. I'm also unsure about how to proceed with someone who felt earlier like wanting to be hoisted; players giving up feels a bit disheartening regardless of their alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:13 pmYa know, I might, just cuz' you asked so niceLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:36 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 amLanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:04 am1) Do you have prior experience with Epi and what we should expect from them?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:00 am
I don't care if folks vote for me, it's happened before and it'll happen again
I can't see any reason to find Epi town
Dunn feels like they're posting EXACTLY the way they described their town meta, so much so it feels scripted
I'm undecided if LC's anger is towny self-righteousness or snared wolf
2) Do you think that people are usually honest with regards to self-meta? Also, wouldn't that make it easier for a wolf to just "playbook" their own self-proclaimed meta? Do you have prior experience playing with Dunn that would back up that self-meta claim?
3) LC's anger feels less game-related and more player-related, considering that they want to clobber Sean in real life while almost begging to be yeeted. I don't think that they are related here. What else do you read LC off?
1. Yes, and I find Epi does exactly what he's doing now when he's wolf, passively engages the thread in a way that makes him difficult to read
2. Yes, but w/ varying degrees of accuracy, as it can be difficult for ourselves to actually understand our own meta.
2A. That's exactly my point
2B. No
3. Nothing, I've not skimmed much outside of the aggro stuff
That looks...reasonable I guess? Would love to see you give a bit deeper of an insight on Lime though; considering that Lime seems to be the main talking point of D2 so far.
Sean's early take re: Maf Lime being afraid to engage isn't part of his meta that I'm aware of, so I prodded Lime
His response seems like foreshadowing now re: mods, and looking at his early posting, I'm not seeing any real engagement w/ anyone in a way that suggests he's actually trying to solve
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions, Falcon. Anything you want to ask me, for a change?
Why do you care if Maf give up?
I want them to be disheartened, and it feels like you're more concerned about Lime's feelings than his alignment...what is your actual read on his slot?