Sims Mafia game thread - Town win

[sig]

Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

[sig]

I have to go make dinner, I'll be back shortly to vote and finsih reading back.

And tbh, I would consider a vote for Abbi if she doesn't come back and try a little. Not so much becasue I think she's bad (I have no clue), or that she owes us anything, like trying, but becasue I don't think she wants to be here.

So if she comes back and acts like she wants to be here, I'll vote elsewhere. But if I do vote for her, I'll prolly stay up late to see if she shows up.

I know this isn't the towniest thing to say, but

if this is true, I'm not sure we're doing a good job of incentivizing her to want to be here. assuming you are right, and she comes into this thread and catches up, do you think she has a reason to stay?

I don’t think Abbi finds her motivation in what people say about her in game threads. I think if she’s not into it, it has nothing to do with us.

But I’d rather vote for actual suspicions, and give Abbi another day to saunter in here and shake juice boxes at us.

So having read back over sig, I was struck by his remark that Michelle was looking for a place to vote rather than solving.

This better applies to him imo.

So imma vote sig. I’ll pop back before I go to bed.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Michelle vote for Abi is 100% trying to find a place to vote, her reaction to my light pressuring is scummy, and the insistence that we should go after low posters while saying she isn’t going to try hard D2 and just sheep the town core is just flat out bad.

If everyone else thinks she’s good I won’t push it, it just means she’s got a bad approach but what I’m seeing is mafia trying to be part of the town core.

[falcon45ca]

Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

Anyone specific beyond Wilgy?





Who & why

[Epignosis]

Sul sul!

I'm 19 pages behind, but if there's a three-way tie of three votes, good.

[Epignosis]

Actually, yes it is weird that Epi would voice that they are cool with being clipped for being unable to play, WHILE at the same time moving vote to the wagon that's more likely to take off.

Bo, if you knew what my last six days have been like, you would know I don't give a dufka about whether I make it to Day 2 here. Things have been yebba neib.

It's like the person controlling me just wants to see me sedna.

[falcon45ca]

So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

You literally interact w/ Epi's post that contains a nonsense word, why would he ping you as being too serious D1?






Tons of examples of Epi being less than serious, wouldn't you say?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine





Someone tag Abi, and tell her she's been voted. Doesn't work on mobile for me

Don't the vote tags tag people? Maybe I just dreamed that.

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Sul sul!

I had a dream about you last night.

Spoiler: show

My boys were playing video games in our living room. So you and I plugged up an old SNES in my bedroom to play some old spacey shooter. Eloh came out of the bathroom and asked me why I wasn't more concerned with my blood pressure.

It was totally you playing video games with me.

sig is bradna. Let's just vote him out already and get it over with.

Michelle LC town, Falc neutral, Epi and Syn are scum.

chop chop, lets get to it people.

Neib.

Michelle LC town, Falc neutral, Epi and Syn are scum.

chop chop, lets get to it people.

Neib.

yibs

Vu dufka!

Michelle LC town, Falc neutral, Epi and Syn are scum.

chop chop, lets get to it people.

Neib.

yibs

Vu dufka!

neib vu!

These posts all ping sig, as they are too serious and not jokey enough

[falcon45ca]

What kind of world do we live in, where a man can go around and shout "Vu Dufka!", and be taken seriously?

[Lime Coke]

Mmmm...

[Lime Coke]

I might switch to Sig or Wilgy.

[Lime Coke]

More than likely Wilgy.

[Lime Coke]

I got 12 minutes if anyone else is around in the game...

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[Thunal33]

Thread is locked

[Thunal33]

☆Princess Abigail☆
2
15%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle
DrWilgy
5
38%
Voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, sig, Syn, Lime Coke
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
3
23%
Voters: falcon45ca, S~V~S, DrWilgy
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Host/spec
3
23%
Voters: Thunal33, JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty
Total votes: 13

[Thunal33]

Poor, poor Bob and Eliza. Will they ever be happy? Bob Pancakes was a Sims 4 townie in an unhappy marriage with his wife Eliza. He was a gloomy slob.

Bob worked as a caterer and was portrayed as the least interesting sim in the world in a trailer for the Sims 4. Bob never drank more than two cups of coffee a day. He didn’t always eat breakfast, but when he did he made pancakes.

DrWilgy got zapped by a broken TV. He was Bob Pancakes,

Spoiler: show

vanilla townie

It is now Night 1! Night actions are due 1 hour before end of night.

@☆Princess Abigail☆
@DrWilgy
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Lime Coke
@Long Con
@Michelle
@Roxy
@S~V~S
@sig
@Spacedaisy
@Syn

[Thunal33]

Don Lothario first appeared in the Sims 2. He was a player who was unwilling to commit to relationships and was interested in multiple women.

In The Sims 2, he was engaged to Cassandra Goth but was romantically involved with three other women including the two Caliente sisters. Don accidentally teleported from Pleasantview to Riverview and also traveled back in time.

In The Sims 4, Don moved in with the Caliente family as Katrina’s boyfriend.

Falcon drowned in a pool without a ladder. He was Don Lothario,

Spoiler: show

vanilla townie

Day 2 will end in 48 hours.

@☆Princess Abigail☆
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Lime Coke
@Long Con
@Michelle
@Roxy
@S~V~S
@sig
@Spacedaisy
@Syn

[S~V~S]

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

[S~V~S]

I stayed up late to make that vote.

Good Night

[Syn]

oopsies

[Lime Coke]

Well Falcon voted Sig.

After trying to use Night Kill Analysis and it failing me in Fallout...do I even bother with using it here?

[Lime Coke]

I feel like anytime I've tried it, it's just sent me down the wrong path.

[Syn]

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

[Syn]

I guess I should specify lime coke since there's two of em in here

[Syn]

Lime Coke was on Abigail before switching to Wilgy at :59

[Lime Coke]

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

[Lime Coke]

Sig was one, you were there obvs.

[Syn]

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

so sometime in the 11 minutes before EOD, Daisy voted for Wilgy and didn't make a post about it or anything else

[Syn]

not great tbh

[Lime Coke]

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

so sometime in the 11 minutes before EOD, Daisy voted for Wilgy and didn't make a post about it or anything else

Yup.

[Michelle]

Morning

Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

Brad I don't understand your vote on Wilgy.
You town read me, but you voted in my towncore with Sig, who tunneled me all day.
@Lime Coke

Lime Coke was on Abigail before switching to Wilgy at :59

Probably Wilgy kept a VC, if not I have one I can search for it

oopsies

[Syn]

the problem I'm facing is the usefulness, or lack thereof, of that choice

w!daisy, if she was saving a partner, would mean she is teamed with either abigail or sig

abigail is afk and not into it: why be so brazen?

but sig was also already a contested slot, so again: why be so brazen?

daisy as well could have simply remained afk and been more active today, taking advantage of my attempted shield on her slot d1 and not gotten this attention

[Michelle]

DrWilgy 5 Voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, sig, Syn, Lime Coke

What made everyone of you prefer Wilgy over Abi, I want to know. Can you make an Abi town case?
If she doesn't play for various reasons you think she will ever escape the Poe position?
@Long Con
@Spacedaisy
@sig
@Syn
@Lime Coke

[Syn]

well, you already know my answer to that question

I don't mind killing her once we're out of better options

[Michelle]

What kind of world do we live in, where a man can go around and shout "Vu Dufka!", and be taken seriously?

Falcon defending Epi took probably a mischop from the wolves, also he questioned Long Con and voted Sig.

I don't get the fear to get out of the game players not playing, if they are wolves, are you happy to lose in front of someone avoiding the game?

[Michelle]

well, you already know my answer to that question

I don't mind killing her once we're out of better options

She can wair, my vote goes to Sig

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[Michelle]

VC

sig 1 Voters: Michelle
Spacedaisy 1 Voters: S~V~S
Host/spec 1 Voters: Thunal33
Total votes: 3

[Michelle]

well, you already know my answer to that question

I don't mind killing her once we're out of better options

She can wair, my vote goes to Sig

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I will go to sleep again because it's too early and I don't have the brain power to make a case, but I will come back in a few hours.

[Lime Coke]

Morning

Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

Brad I don't understand your vote on Wilgy.
You town read me, but you voted in my towncore with Sig, who tunneled me all day.
@Lime Coke

Lime Coke was on Abigail before switching to Wilgy at :59

Probably Wilgy kept a VC, if not I have one I can search for it

oopsies

I might've been trying to go for something spicy and letting someone else get their tunnel done and I was second guessing the Wilgy read.

[Lime Coke]

Also second guessing the Abbi vote but wish I kinda stayed there...but it wasn't going to matter anyways because Daisy hidden voted.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: PA] aubergine

Still 9 pages behind. I will be able to get to those tomorrow. Sul sul bitches.

[Lime Coke]

I'm not happy about that flip for obvious reasons. Literally just coming off of a loss I've been playing like complete shit lately but I legit don't know what to do to even get off of this or how to gain the headspace to dig into these games like I want to but...I legit just can't.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

[Michelle]

I'm not happy about that flip for obvious reasons. Literally just coming off of a loss I've been playing like complete shit lately but I legit don't know what to do to even get off of this or how to gain the headspace to dig into these games like I want to but...I legit just can't.

don't be harsh on yourself and stop overthinking things, I made mistakes in F4/F3 a few times after putting effort in games. I know how it is, but a new game cancels everything in the past and all you can do to improve is to follow your heart.

[Epignosis]

Lynch sig and PA is my current stance. They are bradna. I'll finish reading tomorrow.

[Long Con]

Well Falcon voted Sig.

After trying to use Night Kill Analysis and it failing me in Fallout...do I even bother with using it here?

Maybe you need to do NK analysis with a level of WIFOM. I think wolves rarely make kills that point directly to them.

Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

From what I can tell, both Spacedaisy and Lime Coke thought they were breaking a three-way tie, or at least deciding the result?

If either Abi or sig are a Wolf, then it looks suspicious, but if they're both town, it's somewhat clearing, I think. Would a Wolf see a three-way Town tie and call attention to themselves as the decider?

On the other hand, what other option is there? Vote a fourth candidate? That would be more suspicious.

the problem I'm facing is the usefulness, or lack thereof, of that choice

w!daisy, if she was saving a partner, would mean she is teamed with either abigail or sig

abigail is afk and not into it: why be so brazen?

but sig was also already a contested slot, so again: why be so brazen?

daisy as well could have simply remained afk and been more active today, taking advantage of my attempted shield on her slot d1 and not gotten this attention

Yeah, I'm feeling like suspecting daisy for that vote is putting the cart before the horse. As in, it's only suspicious if Abi or sig are wolves.

[Long Con]

DrWilgy 5 Voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, sig, Syn, Lime Coke

What made everyone of you prefer Wilgy over Abi, I want to know. Can you make an Abi town case?
If she doesn't play for various reasons you think she will ever escape the Poe position?
@Long Con
@Spacedaisy
@sig
@Syn
@Lime Coke

I made a post about it, lemme grab it:

@falcon45ca I would call you a town lean atm.

Just got off work and fed my kids. Quick catchup. Tonight's the night I go to my buddy's place, so I will not be around for EoD.

I feel like there's a push for afk/low posters, especially Abi, but I'm not feeling that. That feels like the same old thing where we probably hit a Town. Wilgy is the one that has pinged me the most, and that's where my vote is going. [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine I may check in, but don't count on it. Probably just peek in at 10 to see what we ended up on.

I don't think that voting AFK on Day 1 is usually a hit. I think that wolves feel more responsibility to their small team to be present and trying, especially in a team of two. You don't want to be the half of the project that doesn't do their share of the work.

I voted Wilgy because I thought he was bad. I don't have a town case for Abi beyond what I wrote in the previous paragraph, and this only applies to Day 1, maybe day 2 if it's a bigger game. After that, chronically AFK players just ensure a bad result at LYLO.

[Long Con]

I'm not happy about that flip for obvious reasons. Literally just coming off of a loss I've been playing like complete shit lately but I legit don't know what to do to even get off of this or how to gain the headspace to dig into these games like I want to but...I legit just can't.

Bro, I am wrong much more often than I'm right, you can't let it bring you down. This game ain't close to over yet.

[VOTE: PA] aubergine

Still 9 pages behind. I will be able to get to those tomorrow. Sul sul bitches.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Yo Ep, sul sul and all that, but I think it would be 'legit' if you, like, talked about your reasons for voting, you know??

[Lime Coke]

Maybe you need to do NK analysis with a level of WIFOM. I think wolves rarely make kills that point directly to them.


From what I can tell, both Spacedaisy and Lime Coke thought they were breaking a three-way tie, or at least deciding the result?

I feel like WIFOM is even worse.


Also yeah speaking for myself I fully thought I was breaking the tie and was the deciding vote...was sorta hoping it would be me hammering mafia and clearing myself but didn't happen.

[Long Con]

wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

Also, I wanted to say that I really liked the first paragraph, and I also don't find meta arguments to be generally fruitful. Probably meta is used more as deceptive cover for lukewarm dishonesty - a wolf can bolster a stance that they KNOW is false by citing precedent, and they even look thoughtful for doing it.