I don't know why, but that sounds spectacular if it can be justified. I am unable to review his posts at the moment; I am ruffling through late work at the office.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:37 pmI don't know why, but that sounds spectacular if it can be justified. I am unable to review his posts at the moment; I am ruffling through late work at the office.
sig didn't know Scotty was dead.
This is Class A acting if sig is mafia.
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To be clear, sig posted this before that:
However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:35 am The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.
I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )
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I actually don't fucking understand sig.
Scotty is looking good, but j need more from him. And I don’t appreciate the sig vote joke
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:30 am A few posts stand out to me from scotty
1. His read list: I’m thinking we have one mafia in his scum reads at least hence the kill then 1-2, depending on mafia size, in the town area. Potentially one in the talk more, but I know I’m town, so that’s either lorab or AS. Who I’m pretty sure I called PS a second ago oops
Lorab we should hear more from this phase and AS seemed active just hard to place. I personally plan to focus on the scum lean unless we get some big news.
It should be noted even with LC/Jay both here Scotty did target Jay more. Is anyone still familiar with Jays meta regarding NKing people who suspect him?
The other big thing I noticed is he was engaging Epi gang a lot. I’ve got a gut feeling that this is important, but I can’t articulate it at this time.
So this is where the odd comment still stands. Besides the read list and some points scotty wasn’t a town leader right now but he was also semi active.
I’d think mafia would go for a low/no poster or shoot for the top end with epi/Jay.
So I think the main focus for me in the next day or so is to do an ISO of Jay, Epi, LC, AS, and Simon.
I do still have epi as a town read and AS/Simon/LC as a Null.
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Oh, okay then. Jesus. Turning 40 sucks.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:48 pm To be clear, sig posted this before that:
However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:35 am The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.
I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )
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LOL. It looks towny for you anyway, so that's a plus.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:50 pmOh, okay then. Jesus. Turning 40 sucks.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:48 pm To be clear, sig posted this before that:
However, given that it looks like sig was copying notes from Night 1 (in the content you referenced), your point may stand. We're forced to take that or leave it, but I don't object at this point.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:35 am The scotty kill is odd, I’ll need to do an NKA of them though.
I don’t recall a single post by PA, however both Epi and Jay reasoning mirror the game that just ended where she was civ and also misvoted fairly early I think. (I died D2 and stopped paying attention, but we won so GoC 2024 here I come )
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Either way, don't think sig is mafia.
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Me
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Yeah, best I can say for Simon and moto for now is that I'll follow your lead on it.
Since we're in a towncore together, even though you didn't list JJJ and I but no biggie, brother...
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I'm very good with motobot, at least by the standards of this game. If he is mafia, I would be quite duped. I am unsure about Simon, but I'll take Epi's word for it (and return to the Scotty kill being strange for him).
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If you think Simon is mafia, grill him. He's one of the worst liars in the world. Go for it. You have my blessing.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:06 am I'm very good with motobot, at least by the standards of this game. If he is mafia, I would be quite duped. I am unsure about Simon, but I'll take Epi's word for it (and return to the Scotty kill being strange for him).
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He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.
@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?
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Wilgy gave a lot of rapid fire opinions on people.
Why can't you parse those yourself?
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Just now leaving the office. Not digging around right now.
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I apologize anyway. That was rude. Let me look.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:25 amJust now leaving the office. Not digging around right now.
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My general impression of Wilgy has been positive. I’m looking for other viewpoints.
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This is the most substantial post. If I had a gripe, it's why a bunch of us are lumped together as good.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:22 pm thinks going into eod.
Out of the playing players, I think TSP and Falc are the wolfier. Falc W > TSP W though.
Out of the not really here players PAbigail is probably the best vote. They were just not here enough to warrant votes compared to the rest of them. Further PAbigail not really having anything to add following catchup is bleh. I do have hestitate as I've seen this cold footed PAbigail recently be town, HOWEVER that doesn't constitute a reason to not vote them.
Scotty, LC, JJJ, Epi, Moto all have reasons as to why I wouldn't vote so that's fun.
D1 PoE put your consensus between {AbigailS, Falc, LoRab, Sig, Simon, TSP}
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Well, that's MY problem. A positive opinion of Wilgy means he's bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:26 am My general impression of Wilgy has been positive. I’m looking for other viewpoints.
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Maybe that big caps lock HOWEVER caveat is suspicious if I allow myself to reach.
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This looks like town falcon.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:22 pmHe came in quick, knowing he was voted. Snap voted you, then went to bedJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:49 pmI only noticed that you didn't post much in Pyre (similar to Don't Starve), and that was true. You were a civilian in Pyre, so I know that "being quiet" doesn't necessarily mean you have evil intentions.
I don't have any real suspicion of you right now.
And now that you don't suspect him and TR him, he's gonna give you a top TR as well
He's given a 50/50 read on Simon, prolly the least controversial read of all time
How different was his Maf game? Cuz this all seems pretty surface level stuff that I'd imagine many and most players could perform as any faction
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:27 pmIt's just gut.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:24 pm I am on board with the POE, Wilgy. I don't really see it with Tony, but I am willing to listen on that one.
I do often find myself on this issue with Tony though. Tony's posts always have a 'shoot from the hip' feel to me and that often makes me think that progression is splotchy if not missing and that generally leads to dissonance with how I read.
SO yeah, gut read Tony W but I often gut read Tony W, so I'm hesitant to trust that without the input of others.
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Wilgy and Tony are an interesting fit together. I don't much see it in isolation between them, but I could see the pair.
As a single pre-flip association, this read has limited value. But it'll inspire a more dedicated review of associations. I hope there's enough to work with.
As a single pre-flip association, this read has limited value. But it'll inspire a more dedicated review of associations. I hope there's enough to work with.
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What made you feel this way at the time? What is your current view?
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Update halfway through:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:46 amBut it'll inspire a more dedicated review of associations. I hope there's enough to work with.
No.
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I kinda glossed over this post at first, but I think I might love it for Simon. He's right, or at least as right as I need him to be. A lot of these assertions about me are close to the truth -- my accusations have been almost arbitrary, as a sort of desperation measure to squeeze something useful out of this game and find better footing. I think this is a good, nuanced read by Simon even if he incorrectly concludes with suspicion of me (I get it). I am more comfortable with Simon as a civilian read than I was before.Simon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:11 pm I'm seeing a lot of JJJ accusing longcon over unusual behavior. But seeing as I rarely play this, I'm not sure how longcon normally plays.
However the real noticable thing is that JJJ is the most active player in the game thus far. And because of this, he just might be talking so much that he's running out of crap to throw at people.
He had good accusations at the start of the game but now it just feels kinda random at this point. And again, I don't play this much, so I'm not familiar with how people normally play.
This might not turn out to be true, but I just thought I'd say something.
He understands my plays if not necessarily my motivations.
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Day 2 Blind Assocations
Yellow - I have no good reason to say they're not mafia together.
Green - I doubt they're mafia together.
I hesitated to do this, because I expected it to turn out useless. Unfortunately, I was correct. This is mostly useless. An ideal table is minimally yellow, not entirely yellow. I cannot clear anyone with this, and I cannot really empower my suspicion of anyone with this. But maybe it'll have a purpose later.
At least I found that previous Simon post in the process.
Yellow - I have no good reason to say they're not mafia together.
Green - I doubt they're mafia together.
I hesitated to do this, because I expected it to turn out useless. Unfortunately, I was correct. This is mostly useless. An ideal table is minimally yellow, not entirely yellow. I cannot clear anyone with this, and I cannot really empower my suspicion of anyone with this. But maybe it'll have a purpose later.
At least I found that previous Simon post in the process.
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@Simon @motobot @Abigail Sophia
I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.
I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.
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DrWilgy's Day 1 suspicion of Tony and falcon might be the most important thing in the game to sort. I would really like to know where all three stand on each other right now.
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no update on either because neither has done anything today (sorry)
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I’m trusting your town read of Wilgy which is running headstrong into Epi’s read and I’m gonna think about what that means maybe tomorrow
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I’m strongly considering rescinding that read, but I’m waiting for him to speak.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:46 am I’m trusting your town read of Wilgy which is running headstrong into Epi’s read and I’m gonna think about what that means maybe tomorrow
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Part of me wonders if Wilgy's reads from Day 1 are not of the usual Wilgy style (and if Wilgy is the sort to endorse a shrug vote against Princess Abigail). There's some potential for faking, but I am unsure.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:41 am DrWilgy's Day 1 suspicion of Tony and falcon might be the most important thing in the game to sort. I would really like to know where all three stand on each other right now.
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TSP is prolly town, Wilgy is prolly who the fuck knows
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:29 pm Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game
Man finds the task to be a... struggle
Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible
We're playing Mafia. We sure are.
Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?
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Do you?
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:05 amDo you?
He defeated a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin, you bet yer ass I do
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[VOTE:
lorab] aubergine @LoRab Who else is on your team?
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Certainly not. This game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:02 amJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:29 pm Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game
Man finds the task to be a... struggle
Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible
We're playing Mafia. We sure are.
Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:34 amCertainly not. This game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:02 amJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:29 pm Man struggles to solve an unsolvable game
Man finds the task to be a... struggle
Man is murdered for failing to do the impossible
We're playing Mafia. We sure are.
Do you honestly believe Mafia to be an unsolvable game?
It's D2.
I find this mentality atypical of you
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Well no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 amWell no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.
Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?
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Essentially never. Bullshitting reads and chasing false suspects is very easy. Looking the part is very easy. Being typical is very easy.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 amJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 amWell no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:50 amEssentially never. Bullshitting reads and chasing false suspects is very easy. Looking the part is very easy. Being typical is very easy.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 amJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 amWell no kidding it’s atypical. I rarely have this problem. Most games are solvable on Day 1 (not that they are successfully solved, but there are avenues to achieve it). This game is only barely better than wild guessing.
Do you have similar troubles solving the game when you're Maf?
You've got over 170 posts, and you're making it sound as tho you've not had suspects or reads
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)
I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that.
For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote?
For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote?
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Re: Kagemusha (D2)
All I have to say is I wouldn't be surprised if Epi was Mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:38 am @Simon @motobot @Abigail Sophia
I'd be interested to know what each of you thinks of Epignosis so far in this game.