Kagemusha (ENDGAME)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Debating between defending my mafia-aligned prowess in the face of this slander and just letting Tony have his stream of consciousness.

You have like half a dozen posts this game where you say something like “man if I were a wolf right now [I wouldn’t be doing this]”

[TonyStarkPrime]

Anyway there was a good reason to doubt Simon was the BTSC haver so meh

Yeah but second most likely is pretty sharp

[TonyStarkPrime]

Second most likely might have been me actually

[TonyStarkPrime]

Don’t /think/ I put a vote on my Mason and then dip in such a scary fashion

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Debating between defending my mafia-aligned prowess in the face of this slander and just letting Tony have his stream of consciousness.

You have like half a dozen posts this game where you say something like “man if I were a wolf right now [I wouldn’t be doing this]”

If, when you say "range", you mean "the variance in strategic preference" -- that's narrow, and your assessment is more or less appropriate.

If you mean "how well he is capable of playing the game in that alignment" -- SLANDER

[TonyStarkPrime]

instinct says it’s not falcon

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it is Epi/falcon, we'll need to discuss the merits of taking out Epi first. If it's right and sig, Epi, and I are all alive in the next day, town probably loses.

Not sure here, but I worry.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it isn't falcon, I'd have to open doors within the Epi/LoRab/Long Con trio. Let me revisit what I said about some of those a bit ago.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Debating between defending my mafia-aligned prowess in the face of this slander and just letting Tony have his stream of consciousness.

You have like half a dozen posts this game where you say something like “man if I were a wolf right now [I wouldn’t be doing this]”

If, when you say "range", you mean "the variance in strategic preference" -- that's narrow, and your assessment is more or less appropriate.

If you mean "how well he is capable of playing the game in that alignment" -- SLANDER

Kinda both. Just haven’t seen many wolves (capable enough to) navigate pressure in the way you have here and get the kills lined up.

I don’t think you don’t kill Moto just to taunt me. I’m tempted to think you do the same as me and kill Moto day 1. Maybe /that’s/ giving you too much credit

[TonyStarkPrime]

No you don’t

[TonyStarkPrime]

Cause it’s another chop, right?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Cause it’s another chop, right?

Not following your meaning -- are you referring to what happens if Epi goes today?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't have a super compelling reason to dissociate Epi and Long Con

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok numbers game. Let’s say wolves are 100 percent sure Moto is the partner, it’s N2, there are 10 remaining. They kill Moto,
7v2
three dead a day, one mischop


It doesn’t change it right? Still two day kills?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Cause it’s another chop, right?

Not following your meaning -- are you referring to what happens if Epi goes today?

See latest post

[TonyStarkPrime]

god it’s so crazy

[TonyStarkPrime]

don’t think you go for it

[TonyStarkPrime]

So why are we here??

[TonyStarkPrime]

You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ok numbers game. Let’s say wolves are 100 percent sure Moto is the partner, it’s N2, there are 10 remaining. They kill Moto,
7v2
three dead a day, one mischop


It doesn’t change it right? Still two day kills?

I think what you're saying works out. It reduces to either 3-1 or 2-1

[TonyStarkPrime]

So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips

I'm sure as hell not good at Mafia in this game, but we're here because there has been no good avenue to solve this at any juncture. We've been guessing and it hasn't worked. There isn't enough substantive content to assess for association, and too few players have effectively cleared themselves. And the highest poster is a tinfoil magnet who will inherently draw a brunt of suspicion for each successive miss (not whining, just acknowledging the reality).

[TonyStarkPrime]

Think it’s completely reasonable that wolves have some sort of PR that allows them to find the roles too, and you semi-obviously check Moto early(?)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going

I suppose that's a possible world. Before this takes the inevitable turn: I didn't really catch on to motobot as a likely BTSC until yesterday.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Last time Falcon got chopped over my objections he was a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going

I suppose that's a possible world. Before this takes the inevitable turn: I didn't really catch on to motobot as a likely BTSC until yesterday.

I thought it was a bit less likely specifically with the sister and the mafia with dad thing was kinda compelling to me

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m not going to vote for falcon today.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Conceivable that motobot was killed as a universal town read that nobody would vote for and not because he was viewed as a BTSC candidate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think falcon has made some posts that look town. Most of them don't, but some do. I am not extremely confident about him in an individual sense (though POE that leads me to him feels a bit better).

However, everyone alive fits that description. Something's gotta give. I could vote Epignosis, because I think there's reason for a stronger deviation from the status quo than falcon would represent. Beyond those two I am kind of just stuck. Long Con and LoRab are possible. I just don't know about their associations with other suspects or with each other.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

or sig is mafia and is playing the best game of his career

[JaggedJimmyJay]

or Tony is mafia and outed his mech strat to taunt me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

posting Tony style is kinda therapeutic

[JaggedJimmyJay]

just putting words in here and having a go

[TonyStarkPrime]

didn’t post that many words

[TonyStarkPrime]

people don’t usually kill the kids in day phases, even when they deserve it

[TonyStarkPrime]

Possibly cause they look to the father for reads, and he subtly stops it some amount of the time

[Long Con]

Possibly cause they look to the father for reads, and he subtly stops it some amount of the time

Any other case studies besides this one to back it up?

[TonyStarkPrime]

No

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean it’s true that the kids don’t usually get chopped without cause

[TonyStarkPrime]

The father influence, who can say

[TonyStarkPrime]

But in this game, his explicit blessing was what did both his kids in

[TonyStarkPrime]

It’s probably Jay/Sig so let’s chop Epi today and call it a game?

[falcon45ca]

posting Tony style is kinda therapeutic

This is the 2nd time this game you've made a point to imitate a player's posting style...is this something you do often?






I can't say I've ever seen it before

[falcon45ca]

You’re mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips

FTFY

[falcon45ca]

Debating between defending my mafia-aligned prowess in the face of this slander and just letting Tony have his stream of consciousness.

You have like half a dozen posts this game where you say something like “man if I were a wolf right now [I wouldn’t be doing this]”

Dude, Jay's Maf

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Citation: DrWilgy

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine





Should I cite Wilgy and Scotty?






Or how about getting swept by Maf while you weep crocodile tears?

[falcon45ca]

I hope he's bad, and that it exonerates falcon.

This post is the first I've read of yours that just looks wolfy AF





Why would his red flip exonerate me? I don't see why Town would clear me based off that, how does that make sense?

[falcon45ca]

So hypothetically if wolves knew Moto was Mason, they could kill Wilgy, collect the credit, and then grab the bag in time to keep going

I suppose that's a possible world. Before this takes the inevitable turn: I didn't really catch on to motobot as a likely BTSC until yesterday.

[falcon45ca]

@Long Con do you have an initial take on my view of Epignosis?

Could be him and falc. I'll have to read him over with your words in mind.

Is there ever a world for you where Jay is Maf?





What's your read on his slot right now?

[falcon45ca]

Not a surprise after the small but significant defense he gave of Abigail Sophia.

Hmmmmmm