Kagemusha (ENDGAME)

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve

[falcon45ca]

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

Is there any world where you see LC as Maf?






Let's say for the sake of argument you actually are Town...do you feel pocketed?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

Is there any world where you see LC as Maf?

Let's say for the sake of argument you actually are Town...do you feel pocketed?

It’s quite possible. I think he’d most likely be teamed with LoRab if so.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Current thoughts:

I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game. But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there.

I do suspect Wilgy. His posts feel like he’s faking himself, if that makes sense. Like, he’s trying too hard to sound like civ wilgy…his tone just feels off. For the moment, I am voting there. Open to changing, but definitely suspecting.

[VOTE: wilgy ] aubergine

Also, voting someone with a vote already because self preservation, and I know I am civ.

@Epignosis why did you placeholder your vote on me?

Also, part of my challenge this came is that I’m still not at all used to closed games. So, I’m still doing some brain wrapping around. Working on it.

But first, a nap. Because this weekend was wonderful and exhausting. Mostly exhausting.

Based primarily on this.

It’s less clear from LC’s side.

[Long Con]

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

I hope you wouldn't dare butter me up like that as a Wolf, especially after I stated my never-rescind Town read on you. I would not appreciate... the smugness of it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Smugness, when applicable, is best reserved for post-game. No smug.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Long Con present view of LoRab?

[Long Con]

@Long Con present view of LoRab?

Your arguments of unpairing were good, I thought. She could still be bad. Lemme glance at her now.



I can't count her out. I didn't see anything in her ISO that's out of her Wolf range. Falcon/Lorab team with a little bit of distancing by Lorab? I am sure she knows that trick. Epi might be the patsy... he votes Lorab for Epi reasons and then falcon jumps on to distance, then Lorab turns it around with a light distance vote later on.

I could see it.

[Long Con]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Do you?

He defeated a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin, you bet yer ass I do

Are you being coy? Do you know that this is still not a full understanding? I forgot about this wonderful reference.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@TonyStarkPrime if you'd prefer LoRab over Epi, I will follow you.

[falcon45ca]

He's not Glorfindel. Jesus.

@Simon Why did your team kill Scotty?

Do you?

He defeated a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin, you bet yer ass I do

Are you being coy? Do you know that this is still not a full understanding? I forgot about this wonderful reference.

I mean I know he was one of the First Born, did not take part in the kinslayings, and the Valar sent him back to Middle Earth after he died





What am I missing?

[Long Con]

I mean I know he was one of the First Born, did not take part in the kinslayings, and the Valar sent him back to Middle Earth after he died





What am I missing?

Our own unique Syndicate cat: Glorfindel

[falcon45ca]

I mean I know he was one of the First Born, did not take part in the kinslayings, and the Valar sent him back to Middle Earth after he died





What am I missing?

Our own unique Syndicate cat: Glorfindel

Ah, well in that context, no I did not

[JaggedJimmyJay]

(Glorfindel the Mafia player was long known for a "trust tell" in which he refused to lie under any circumstances)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Vote: GLORF

[Long Con]

Oh, snap, if things get too stressful here, why not bust a rhyme at the new Lyricists' Lounge?

[Epignosis]

I am sorry I have failed my fellow civilians.

I will now do as Bishamonten, the war god, commands, and retain the honor and dignity of my family.

Spekku is my fate.

I will maintain the sacredness of...

Where is my damn katana?

Need to find something else.

A butter knife? A butter knife? That will do no good.

I cannot find anything worthy.

A fate worse than death. Yes! That is my sentence!

Okay...

...wife's distance learning courses...

...I can easily find a VHS of one of JJJ's lectures around here somewhere...

[Epignosis]

you guys suck at mafia

Well, if you're a civilian, you can do that thing where you point three fingers back at yourself holding a mirror.

Listen, I don't care which way this game goes. I really don't. JJJ accused me of not caring. He's right.

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it.

JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this.

Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because weekends are shit for me.

And yes, I will be participating in Syn's walrus thing because I can listen to music while I read and edit shit. I can't read while I read.

[Epignosis]

I quoted without opening a new tab and lost my place...

...Bishamonten damnit.

[Epignosis]

If it is Epi/falcon, we'll need to discuss the merits of taking out Epi first.

Hopefully to sushi and saki?

[Epignosis]

You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it.

JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this.

Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because weekends are shit for me.

Sometimes you say things like this, and it is absolutely never correct. It may be honest, because I've seen you say it before when you're honest. Let me be very clear:

I do not keep a schedule with Epignosis' daily activities posted on the wall above my computer screen. Your weekends, or how shit they may be, has never entered my brain in the process a single Mafia game (or even the process of pretending to solve one).

Assessing players' investment in who dies and why is, well, the whole game? What are we doing here otherwise?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean that respectfully.

I have considered Long Con and LoRab as a possible team. If Epignosis is not mafia, I don't know what else it'd be. I'm also not sure it matters, because I don't see how we win this game regardless of who it is.

[Epignosis]

Possibly cause they look to the father for reads, and he subtly stops it some amount of the time

These kids need to get on their shit and start getting jobs.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

[Epignosis]

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it.

JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this.

Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because weekends are shit for me.

Sometimes you say things like this, and it is absolutely never correct. It may be honest, because I've seen you say it before when you're honest. Let me be very clear:

I do not keep a schedule with Epignosis' daily activities posted on the wall above my computer screen. Your weekends, or how shit they may be, has never entered my brain in the process a single Mafia game (or even the process of pretending to solve one).

Assessing players' investment in who dies and why is, well, the whole game? What are we doing here otherwise?

Even if you didn't know it, it isn't hard to look back and get a sense of it. Folks do that now for alignment. "Go read these two town games and these two wolfs games" and what the hell ever.

(Don't know how anybody has time for that)

All I meant was that I would assume you would at least have it in the back of your head that I wouldn't be doing much until night time anymore since I don't post during the day.

I apologize if I made a bad assumption. It looks like I did.

[Long Con]

Epi is always working hard.

[Epignosis]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

[Epignosis]

I was also actually proud of Simon's posting. I tried to put pressure on him that he didn't respond to, but I was super proud of his posts. I hope he sees this.

[Long Con]

My top team is Lorab/falcon right now. I want this towncore to work. Your post where you were just like "ok it's JJJ and LC" was what rubbed me the wrong way.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

I have had the same thought about him a few times amid my turbulence. @Long Con could stand to describe what it was that sold him on an Epi vote.

Also, Epi, what do you think of falcon?

[Long Con]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

[Long Con]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

I have had the same thought about him a few times amid my turbulence. @Long Con could stand to describe what it was that sold him on an Epi vote.

Also, Epi, what do you think of falcon?

Your antipairing thing with Lorab seemed to shift her to the Towny side just a bit more, and your pointing out the lack of interaction between Epi and falcon made it seem like they had to be it. The agreeability of some others to an Epi elimination led me to vote for consolidation, as we discussed earlier.

Since I did my own look at Lorab's ISO, have have a different viewpoint that recognizes the possibility of some simple distancing between Lorab and falcon that could be team-indicative.

[Epignosis]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

I have had the same thought about him a few times amid my turbulence. @Long Con could stand to describe what it was that sold him on an Epi vote.

Also, Epi, what do you think of falcon?

I'd have to look. Falcon is like LoRab for me. Same dynamic.

There are certain people who do a great job of "being" and there's no way around it until one of the teammates gets got. That hasn't happened yet. I can look back through falcon's posts, but I don't think I'm going to be able to tell you anything discerning. Don't mind trying since you asked.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Since I did my own look at Lorab's ISO, have have a different viewpoint that recognizes the possibility of some simple distancing between Lorab and falcon that could be team-indicative.

It's not impossible. It'd be very valuable if you could pull out a post or two that guides you toward that conclusion.

[Epignosis]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

[Long Con]

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and LC doesn't seem to mind following suit.

That's my assessment of Day 4.

I have had the same thought about him a few times amid my turbulence. @Long Con could stand to describe what it was that sold him on an Epi vote.

Also, Epi, what do you think of falcon?

I'd have to look. Falcon is like LoRab for me. Same dynamic.

There are certain people who do a great job of "being" and there's no way around it until one of the teammates gets got. That hasn't happened yet. I can look back through falcon's posts, but I don't think I'm going to be able to tell you anything discerning. Don't mind trying since you asked.

When I look at them with the idea that he's a Wolf, it was striking how Wolfy it looked. Take that as you will.

[Long Con]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

We're forced to have an immediate sense of urgency this evening even if we still have another 23 hours. If @TonyStarkPrime is going to be gone and we assume sig is voting for me, then Tony's vote effectively becomes the person who dies. We have to consolidate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Granted, falcon's vote could change that too if he remains open-minded (if he's town).

[Epignosis]

I don't get much except I don't think falcon is partnered with LC or Tony.

[Long Con]

Since I did my own look at Lorab's ISO, have have a different viewpoint that recognizes the possibility of some simple distancing between Lorab and falcon that could be team-indicative.

It's not impossible. It'd be very valuable if you could pull out a post or two that guides you toward that conclusion.

Well, you can see when they voted for each other. It never became a threat, falcon said his Lorab vote was more for participation-pushing at one point, though he never directly responded when she asked why his vote was on her. As far as I could tell.

Like I said before, I saw nothing from Lorab that she's not capable of while Wolfing, and I was looking for it.

[Long Con]

I mean, falcon is voting for Lorab right now. Why?

[Epignosis]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.

I don't think I agreed to being in the town core.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve

Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?

[Long Con]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.

I don't think I agreed to being in the town core.

You were in my core because I believed in YOU.

[Epignosis]

We're forced to have an immediate sense of urgency this evening even if we still have another 23 hours. If @TonyStarkPrime is going to be gone and we assume sig is voting for me, then Tony's vote effectively becomes the person who dies. We have to consolidate.

I thought everybody was lynching me and winning the game.

Anyway, I don't have a this evening. I have sleep soon and then 13 hours more work when I wake up.

[Epignosis]

I tell you this most truthfully: that "let's be towncore" talk was real and genuine, and I was excited to build on the game from that point. It is certainly not a usual thing I do, but I felt good about it.

So why'd you boot me out first?

Didn't that happen after you said it was me and Jay? Maybe I am guilty. I thought it was over when you said that.

I don't think I agreed to being in the town core.

You were in my core because I believed in YOU.

Bout to print that out and put it on a cat poster.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

Least do something different.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve

Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?

I did think he showed some urgency in his other posts. You could argue the vote lacks urgency though, sure.

Tony said earlier that he refused to vote falcon. I think LoRab is probably the only viable alternative under the circumstances unless he changes his mind about that.