The Avengers [ENDGAME]

[Lime Coke]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Like you're supposed to be a competent player.

If you're town here, then you need to get your head out of your ass and actually solve like you're capable of.

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

And if you're town it's 100% on you because you decided to do fuck all.

And if you're mafia...still step your game up because you're making this easy.

[leetic]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Isn't engaging with people, like, a large part of the game of mafia? I don't know, I've only been playing for what, nine years, but I kinda had that impression

[leetic]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Like you're supposed to be a competent player.

If you're town here, then you need to get your head out of your ass and actually solve like you're capable of.

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

And if you're town it's 100% on you because you decided to do fuck all.

And if you're mafia...still step your game up because you're making this easy.

I'm offering you what you want, but apparently you just want to repeat the same things ad nauseum lol. Why should I believe that you're acting in good faith?

[Lime Coke]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Like you're supposed to be a competent player.

If you're town here, then you need to get your head out of your ass and actually solve like you're capable of.

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

And if you're town it's 100% on you because you decided to do fuck all.

And if you're mafia...still step your game up because you're making this easy.

I'm offering you what you want, but apparently you just want to repeat the same things ad nauseum lol. Why should I believe that you're acting in good faith?

I gave you an opportunity by pinging you earlier.

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

I'm opening the door for you to get thoughts or reads or literally anything in.

And then what you did...not only ignored that ping, but then proceeded to go after me.

If you're going to go after me when I opened the door to work with you and give you the opportunity to do something...then yeah I'm gonna rip your throat out.

[leetic]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Like you're supposed to be a competent player.

If you're town here, then you need to get your head out of your ass and actually solve like you're capable of.

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

And if you're town it's 100% on you because you decided to do fuck all.

And if you're mafia...still step your game up because you're making this easy.

I'm offering you what you want, but apparently you just want to repeat the same things ad nauseum lol. Why should I believe that you're acting in good faith?

I gave you an opportunity by pinging you earlier.

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

I'm opening the door for you to get thoughts or reads or literally anything in.

And then what you did...not only ignored that ping, but then proceeded to go after me.

Except I have discussed a few others, which you would know if you weren't willfully ignoring like half my ISO.

If you're going to go after me when I opened the door to work with you and give you the opportunity to do something...then yeah I'm gonna rip your throat out.

Oh boo hoo, woe is me blah blah blah. If you want me to stop going after you, maybe try toning down the tunnel or, barring that, at least engage in good faith. Giving people the opportunity to work with you is something that you should be doing in general, acting like you deserve special treatment for that is wolfy if anything.

[Lime Coke]

1 full day phase, 1 full night phase, 8 pages, 8 players with 15+ posts.

You're telling me you have nothing beyond going to me?

Like you're supposed to be a competent player.

If you're town here, then you need to get your head out of your ass and actually solve like you're capable of.

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

And if you're town it's 100% on you because you decided to do fuck all.

And if you're mafia...still step your game up because you're making this easy.

I'm offering you what you want, but apparently you just want to repeat the same things ad nauseum lol. Why should I believe that you're acting in good faith?

I gave you an opportunity by pinging you earlier.

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

I'm opening the door for you to get thoughts or reads or literally anything in.

And then what you did...not only ignored that ping, but then proceeded to go after me.

Except I have discussed a few others, which you would know if you weren't willfully ignoring like half my ISO.

If you're going to go after me when I opened the door to work with you and give you the opportunity to do something...then yeah I'm gonna rip your throat out.

Oh boo hoo, woe is me blah blah blah. If you want me to stop going after you, maybe try toning down the tunnel or, barring that, at least engage in good faith. Giving people the opportunity to work with you is something that you should be doing in general, acting like you deserve special treatment for that is wolfy if anything.

You haven't discussed others at all really. You barely have reads in your iso besides the LC vote.

And I'm the most obvious town in the game and one of the more active players. If you are town and you got me as mafia...then you're mediocre.

So yeah...once again on you if you die here and you're town.

[leetic]

You haven't discussed others at all really.

lol

And I'm the most obvious town in the game

LOL

Yeah, I'm done here (for real this time) unless you want to actually start engaging in good faith

[Long Con]

I hope you guys worked this out. I tried to get through it but that is some lengthy, dense, repetitive, snarky stuff.

[Long Con]

Wilgy could very well be Thanos as much as Deadpool. Thanos was barred from Death's realm for some time and unable to die because she didn't want him around.

[Long Con]

And of course, deadpool has the healing factor so him surviving a kill would be flavourful.

[Long Con]

If wilgy had not been nightkilled, how long would it take before we became suspicious of his survival?

[leetic]

If wilgy had not been nightkilled, how long would it take before we became suspicious of his survival?

I for one wouldn't be suspicious. Wilgy wasn't doing much, and there's a million possible mechanical reasons for his survival that aren't worth speculating on since claiming is disallowed. In fact, if I was a wolf I'd consider killing Wilgy to be too risky as there's a chance he'd survive again and it would be better to prune someone who'd be more likely to die. I find it weirder that he actually was killed.

[Long Con]

I would find it doubtful that a player would have more than one survival. That's heavy. I think they saw the people considering Wilgy as a probable Town and acted.

I would expect people to start asking questions after a couple of nights about why he's still around, and maybe public opinion turning on him. Maybe it would be too clever for my own good, but I probably would not have killed him, just not for the same reasons you're saying.

[Long Con]

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

I feel like I have so many things to say, and at the same time I can't find the right one.

[Lime Coke]

If you don't then I'm going to tunnel your ass out.

I feel like I have so many things to say, and at the same time I can't find the right one.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wilgy was and still is a wolf I stand by this

[TonyStarkPrime]

Silly people ittw

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ll be back pill doesn’t end for 3 days

[Long Con]

Damn, you took an I'll be back pill? You can't work on those, you'll be terminated.

[Michelle]

Good morning!
RIP Wilgy, I think that's the power of the open night who get him killed, meaning the wolves are scared by it and killed the one who gave us the possibility to talk.

Good morning!
The open night I understand it's Wilgy's ability and it's so townie that it makes me happy the chop failed.

what makes it towny lol

The night talk is a nightmare for mafia, because town can talk and find each other. I always think that someone who choses to give an open night it's town

What wouldn't be towny from your pov?

Can you clarify your point here? Do you mean that Epi is civ because he created the game to have open nights?

No, this makes me think it was Wilgy who choose to have an open night

...

It was late. Instead of taking a car, Dr. Wilgy felt like enjoying the OPEN NIGHT air.
...

Why would I imply the host in my solve anyway?

I wish to know thoughts from @Abigail Sophia @motobot @Roxy

What do you want to know?

Anything game related, reads, opinions on the night kill, etc.
I get you are not Abigail I know, so if you can tell me things about you as a player it will be useful

I wish to know thoughts from @Abigail Sophia @motobot @Roxy

What do you want to know?

Well kinda need literally anything from you currently since a full day phase has gone by and there's enough content to dissect.

Thanks Brad, +1

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

okay this is kind of silly though lol wilgy won best villager in a game AND best wolf in the socky's

When he is active he is scary, indeed

OK, Wilgys flip was in purple font, same as the Independent, and Epi address the Avengers in the same orange font





Ergo, Wilgy was either Thanos or Deadpool

But the no flip was also purple, we can't be sure about that until we see a flip who looks different.
I get the 3rds are strong and could survive a chop but also the Avengers are insanely strong, and some can survive as well

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

I gave you an opportunity here to do something...again the only thing you did was look at Wilgy reads and that's it.

Again like I pointed out before there's plenty of content to look at.

Yet the only things that you've done are 1. Vote LC in which you have yet to develop a read on him beyond that and 2. Vote me based off of Wilgy reads and not your own.

Like you've spoken about 2 people. Are you in anti-spew?

Examining the flip is the natural thing to do in this gamestate. What are you doing but tunneling?

Townread:
Porschaaaaaaa
Michelle
DrWilgy
SVS
Falcon

Townlean:
Syn
Simon

Was debating on quoting and adding Wilgy since it's only him but fuck it will post it normal.

Got an entire list of towns here buddy...once again you lack a worldview...are you in anti-spew?

And what are you actually doing with it? I could put a list of green names with no further elaboration, doesn't mean I'm actually solving the game

You don't see me voting them, right?

If other people vote them then I'll stop them.

Most of them haven't been voted yet.

Do you wanna ask more useless questions for me to rip you in half more and more or do you wanna try solving the game and analyze what other slots are doing?

If at one moment during D1 I wasn't sure where to put Brad, and I came during the night time to him being a villager, this post makes me confident about him.
Brad is town.

[Michelle]

Wilgy was and still is a wolf I stand by this

Explain it please

Also whats the "I’ll be back pill"?

[Lime Coke]

What do you have in total for this game, Michelle?

@Michelle

[Syn]

If wilgy had not been nightkilled, how long would it take before we became suspicious of his survival?

when I thought this was a normal game, not very long

now that I know this is some weird proto mafia game from before the dinosaurs got eradicated, I find myself having very little confidence in anything

[Syn]

oh god Michelle that font

[Syn]

I think I'm fine with LC, Porscha, Michelle, and Roxy

I've been oscillating on Mister Bradley because of the useless back-and-forth with leetic but I will commit to a town lean

falcon and SVS also town leans

which leaves me Abigail, dunya (where is u), LoRab, motobot, sig, and Simon for nulls or below

and then ofc there's leetic

[Syn]

that's maybe possibly fine for a D2 reads list

[Syn]

@motobot @Simon you both were pretty reluctant to get into it on D1 and both said that more would come after there was info

anything?

[Syn]

reading back and I'm realizing that most of the phase so far has just been slap-fighting with brad and leetic and that's why I can't remember what people have been saying

because they haven't said anything yet

aaaaaaaaa

[Porscha]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

[Porscha]

I'm fairly used to playing flipless, and it's pretty obvious that Wilgy was town anyway. Might want to look at his ISO.

Why do you think that was obvious?

It's pretty much taken as a given in flipless games that the person flipping has been killed by the wolves. Now that I think about it, there are independents in this game as well, but the intent is the same.

Also got another 500 error so this site isn't cooperating with me

I think what I dislike, leetic, is that you offered a million reasons as to why or how there was a night period but you're dead ass sold and not shopping around on buying that the wolves targeted wilgy for death lol

[Lime Coke]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

[Porscha]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

mhm lol

[Porscha]

you wouldn't kill your mason buddy would you coke of lime?

[Lime Coke]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

mhm lol

Not Night 1 or like a situation like this where we're working together.

But I'd still be afraid of you if I were mafia and you were town.

[Lime Coke]

Actually idk if I'd even kill you out of being scared since you're making the game enjoyable for me but still.

Eventually you'd be on my ass.

[Porscha]

aw wittle bwadweeeyyy

[Syn]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

LMAO me?????????????????????????

[Lime Coke]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

LMAO me?????????????????????????

Sure. You're active and throwing votes around. Eventually you'd hit a partner or me.

[Lime Coke]

aw wittle bwadweeeyyy

Shut it...

[S~V~S]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

[Lime Coke]

Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

I'm talking that as me being mafia vs Wilgy being town perspective.

The Cyberpunk game was a product of the game being fucked for us because everyone had us as scumreads and we decided to shove forward instead of forfeiting because it allowed town to get the legit ending/win instead of us just handing it to them when it was basically academic.

Again I'm trying to not be an asshole when talking this through I've had games with him like this where he didn't do much and got himself yeeted. If I'm facing him when he's town why would I be killing that?

[S~V~S]

Also @Roxy re leetics vote, it was sus, yes, but it was also sloppy. He said LC had 2 posts, but when leetic voted he actually had 5. It's a small thing, but I just hosted bad leetic, and bad leetic is pretty careful. His vote felt more off the cuff for me, and "off the cuff" isn't a thing I associate with bad leetic.

It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.

2 posts D1 at that point, I didn't count the posts from D0, of which I didn't really care for anyone's D0 posts. Just making that little correction.

LOL, I think bad leetic would have taken this as a gift rather than corrected me. And I'll accept it as a correction, even though you didn't make that distinction when you voted.

K, just read my @'s and skimmed a bit, gonna catch up and reread Wilgys posts in the night.

I think the answer is in there, and this is why town should only make small talk early at night; this has been a public service announcement.

Linki @Lime Coke , oh I wasn't trying to imply you were being dicky, I was trying to imply you're being misleading in saying you wouldn't kill Wilgy for the reasons you stated. Wilgy is quite formidable regardless of allignment, and I think you know that.

I'm not gonna say, OMG Brad is bad, over that, but that, combined with Wilgy saying you were his top sus, yeah. It's something I have to consider

[S~V~S]

I would find it doubtful that a player would have more than one survival. That's heavy. I think they saw the people considering Wilgy as a probable Town and acted.

I would expect people to start asking questions after a couple of nights about why he's still around, and maybe public opinion turning on him. Maybe it would be too clever for my own good, but I probably would not have killed him, just not for the same reasons you're saying.

I agree, in a game with only 17 players that would be overkill to have more than one save or an unkillable role. And I wouldn't have killed him N1 for the same reasons.

ESPECIALLY with that post Wilgy made. That gives me pause. But then, I tend to auto assume people are doing set ups, etc., becasue I have that mind set, and alot of the time they aren't lol. So if *I* were bad, and not one of the people Wilgy implicated, I would consider killing him.

But if I WERE one of the people he sussed, i might kill him too, since people like me might argue "But that's too obvious".

But sometimes a glass of wine really IS in front of you.

[S~V~S]

We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?

dunno if this is pre-existing bias but this feels awfully convenient

I don't understand this post.

Convenient in what way? This is a Mafia game. A person died in the night. You consider that his suspects may have done it, so you vote for them. "Predictable", perhaps, but "Convenient"?

[S~V~S]

And yeah kinda agreeing with Syn here that your vote on me is pretty convenient, especially since I've been pinging you and calling you out to do shit. Which your only thing to do is to look at the night kill, see one read that the dead guy was making, and vote that.

Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.

Where is that, here?

@leetic

You called him out to do shit once that I found. You (and Syn) seem to be implying that there is this big No U going on here, and I'm not seeing it. At least, I think that's the implication?

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

K, gotta get ready for work

[Syn]

You called him out to do shit once that I found. You (and Syn) seem to be implying that there is this big No U going on here, and I'm not seeing it. At least, I think that's the implication?

I implied no such thing

[Syn]

We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?

dunno if this is pre-existing bias but this feels awfully convenient

I don't understand this post.

Convenient in what way? This is a Mafia game. A person died in the night. You consider that his suspects may have done it, so you vote for them. "Predictable", perhaps, but "Convenient"?

I answered this more clearly later

but in general looking at someone's handful of posts, saying "not much here," and then proceeding to chainsaw into one of the only people mentioned by that someone as though it's a real case is convenient, yeah

[S~V~S]

So You would say Brad is interpreting “convenient” differently than you are, yes?

And did I see you make a post where you put the no poster Dunya in your null or below group, which I presume to be your POE?

Now really gotta go, today is my busiest day of the month so not sure I’ll be able to get in here during the day, either.

[Lime Coke]

And yeah kinda agreeing with Syn here that your vote on me is pretty convenient, especially since I've been pinging you and calling you out to do shit. Which your only thing to do is to look at the night kill, see one read that the dead guy was making, and vote that.

Like I've seen you be way more into games and actually interrogating people to do shit during games.

Where is that, here?

@leetic

You called him out to do shit once that I found. You (and Syn) seem to be implying that there is this big No U going on here, and I'm not seeing it. At least, I think that's the implication?

@leetic

I know you said you were busy but why haven't you like...actually done anything at all when you're here? Only thing you've talked about is LC. That's really it beyond the Wilgy wagon and that's a pile of nothing.

K, gotta get ready for work

The thing is that I pinged him before that all happened. So there's next to no way he missed that.

Like I'm asking for your input here, are my points valid? Has Leetic actually attempted to form any sort of reads or worldview when he's been here?
Do you have him as town in any way?

If so, why?

[Lime Coke]

That might take ages to get a response since you left and said you were busy so not gonna rush that obvs.