Monopoly Mafia (GAME OVER- TOWN WIN)

[Long Con]

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

[Epignosis]

I ended up forgetting to roll.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Well, if Roxy confirmed Lemonfairy as town, then i'm most suspicious of Epignosis.

Why?

This got ignored.

[Lime Coke]

Okay so I got next to nothing.

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Take 2.

[S~V~S]

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

Well, to be fair, most people who bid also all came in after the night and tried to get stuff going. You, me and Roxy. LimeC also bid, but he also posted. DM is currently bidding on something, as am I.

I'm going to blame it on the weekend, and repost my last 2 posts which actually said anything from Sunday AM.

SVS was actually because I read my role again and it said I could get +1 vote the next day if I voted the dog. I was wondering if SVS had the same thing

I could just ask ig
@S~V~S

No, I can steal money from you. Which you will see I chose not to do, lol. It's called "Garbage dive". Very doggish.

Got in a bit ago, gonna read my @'s and catch up.

Yeah, that's the one. It's obviously true, that's moot. I don't feel like a Wolf would go full disclosure like this. Money is life. This ability can kill somone.

I don't know that I would have disclosed it had Lemon not disclosed that she got a benefit from voting for me. I could take $100 from the cat (Lemon), which i was reluctant to do even when i suspected her

I didn't get doubles so I'll prolly pay to get out of jail today. I will be in and out, but I think I need to reassess.

Lime Coke + falcon45 are my other not town reads. But I am less confident in those, than in the Epi + Wilgy duo.

EOD yesterday was pretty chaotic. You had 4 suspects in your POE, but wound up voting outside of it, and I'm not sure why? You came in, threw the shade around very aggressively, mostly seemed to go head:head with Wilgy, and then voted off your own POE?

You were bouncing off of Roxy and her reads as if you thought she had info, is the closest i could come to understanding what happened. Did you think she "knew" Falcon was bad?

I'm not shading you or Roxy; I think she looked just as confused as anyone while all that was going on, and I can see Roxy sincerity pretty well.

Reading back, I picked up on the Race car thing re Falcons ability to make a 20 space movement. I kinda wish he had come back and just said it, and said it forcefully and repeatedly. I completely missed this and I would think other people did too.

@falcon45ca got free parking at the motorcade and is immune from elimination today.

"When moving, mafia may choose to roll with 2d6, 2d8 or 2d10"

That's an impressive 20-space movement, falcon.

I feel we haven't talked about this enough.

I'm also curious how a race car moved fast...




Oh wait, I figured it out

I searched the thread for race car, and other than this, Sloonei saying Falcon sleeps in a race car bad ( @Sloonei was this a joke?

Spoiler: show

@falcon45ca got free parking at the motorcade and is immune from elimination today.

"When moving, mafia may choose to roll with 2d6, 2d8 or 2d10"

That's an impressive 20-space movement, falcon.

I feel we haven't talked about this enough.

And since I now see that you get results from the first space you land on, before moving on with the doubles, it becomes more suspicious. What was the first landing if it's explained by doubles?

I could switch to falcon at this time as well, because this is suspicious. A Wolf would most likely use 2d10 in order to get access to better properties first. Argh... but that would require doubles, and he would have rolled past Free Parking, right? You can discuss or whatever, I do have to go.

To be fair, he has since pointed out that he sleeps in a race car bed. That can give him extra mileage.

Wilgy also mentioned that a race car may have a board movement effect, but his vote didn't seem to have anything to do with that.

Again, I'm not trying to shade anyone for any of this. It was very chaotic and confusing, and i voted for him myself for super shitty reasons too.

I did get out of jail, I moved to Community Chest, got a "Go to the cheap neighborhood" card and I'm there now.

[Roxy]

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

No one is stopping you but yourself as my mom used to say.

I did mine and voted.

[Long Con]

Brown1 - not yet claimed
Brown2 - not yet claimed
--RR1 - not yet claimed
Cyan1 - not yet claimed
Hurdygurdyman Ave - owned by Roxy
Bolt Sbit Mpo Blvd - owned by Sloonei
Labrador - owned by S~V~S
The Swag Palace - owned by Sloonei
Fuchsia3 - not yet claimed
--RR2 - not yet claimed
Orange1 - not yet claimed
Goober Ave - owned by DrWilgy
Doggerland 1 - owned by S~V~S
Digapony Lane - owned by Roxy
Crimson Condos - owned by Long Con
I'll Annoy Ave - owned by Epignosis
--Derail Ye Rails - owned by Roxy
Yellow1 - up for auction
LV-426 - owned by DarlingMonroe
PGHMSDSSB Ln - owned by DrWilgy
Green1 - up for auction
Green2 - not yet claimed
Evergreen - owned by DarlingMonroe
--RR4 - not yet claimed
Water ye sharks or something - owned by Roxy
Blue2 - up for auction

[Long Con]

I think that's right. Roxy has four properties before anyone else has three.

[Long Con]

And we've lost contact with the colonists on LV-426.

[S~V~S]

Long Con:

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

Also Long Con:

Detailed, color coded listing of real estate holdings.

[Long Con]

Long Con:

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

Also Long Con:

Detailed, color coded listing of real estate holdings.

I'm upping my whimsy level to win over Roxy.

[Long Con]

I just needed that for myself, and felt inspired to do it nice. To do it in a way that can be copied and updated.

[Long Con]

But yeah, we gotta eliminate someone. 6 hours left. I'm having some stress and find it sort of hard to focus on the game, but I'll do some reading back and pick someone. I think Lime Coke tried to vote DM, but didn't vote in the poll? But that would make her in the lead with 2 votes. If she is bad, well, she owns a green and blasted a $70 bid right out of the gates for Blue2. Those properties have the most power, and if she is bad, that would be scary. Do we choose kills based on potential overpowered Wolves? Are Wolves extra-hungry for power?

Who hasn't bid against who? A Wolf probably won't outbid their partner. Maybe that can be a factor to look at.

[S~V~S]

That’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t considered, game play voting strategy based on affiliation. My concerns there are more based on the last EOD.

I am leaving work in a sec should be home in an hour ish and here.

[DrWilgy]

Hmmm. Slow day that's nice.

[DrWilgy]

Poor Lemon. Last eod was wild.

I keep going over it and I always end up stuck on Wigly's posts inre:falcon. They don't align with him being "facetious".

Going to be doing a lot reading and going over my reads and adjusting.

How so?

My posts are:
acknowledgement of Falcon being a fine vote:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

reasoning as to not to give falcon a pass:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

and then the joking/facetious post about believing falc when their response to me is 'I'm never wolf lol'

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

Doubt it, I'm always town bro

I accept this argument and will never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint.

How do you see the joke as anything other than facetious when the two posts directly prior on the subject indicate my thoughts on their slot?

[DrWilgy]

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

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[DrWilgy]

But yeah, we gotta eliminate someone. 6 hours left. I'm having some stress and find it sort of hard to focus on the game, but I'll do some reading back and pick someone. I think Lime Coke tried to vote DM, but didn't vote in the poll? But that would make her in the lead with 2 votes. If she is bad, well, she owns a green and blasted a $70 bid right out of the gates for Blue2. Those properties have the most power, and if she is bad, that would be scary. Do we choose kills based on potential overpowered Wolves? Are Wolves extra-hungry for power?

Who hasn't bid against who? A Wolf probably won't outbid their partner. Maybe that can be a factor to look at.

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[Roxy]

Brown1 - not yet claimed
Brown2 - not yet claimed
--RR1 - not yet claimed
Cyan1 - not yet claimed
Hurdygurdyman Ave - owned by Roxy
Bolt Sbit Mpo Blvd - owned by Sloonei
Labrador - owned by S~V~S
The Swag Palace - owned by Sloonei
Fuchsia3 - not yet claimed
--RR2 - not yet claimed
Orange1 - not yet claimed
Goober Ave - owned by DrWilgy
Doggerland 1 - owned by S~V~S
Digapony Lane - owned by Roxy
Crimson Condos - owned by Long Con
I'll Annoy Ave - owned by Epignosis
--Derail Ye Rails - owned by Roxy
Yellow1 - up for auction
LV-426 - owned by DarlingMonroe
PGHMSDSSB Ln - owned by DrWilgy
Green1 - up for auction
Green2 - not yet claimed
Evergreen - owned by DarlingMonroe
--RR4 - not yet claimed
Water ye sharks or something - owned by Roxy
Blue2 - up for auction

Nice!

I think that's right. Roxy has four properties before anyone else has three.

Don't be jelly you only missed that last bid by 3 minutes.

Long Con:

So, what, is everybody just real estate tycoons now, and don't have time for detective work? Quietest day ever.

Also Long Con:

Detailed, color coded listing of real estate holdings.

I'm upping my whimsy level to win over Roxy.

[DrWilgy]

Lime Coke + falcon45 are my other not town reads. But I am less confident in those, than in the Epi + Wilgy duo.

EOD yesterday was pretty chaotic. You had 4 suspects in your POE, but wound up voting outside of it, and I'm not sure why? You came in, threw the shade around very aggressively, mostly seemed to go head:head with Wilgy, and then voted off your own POE?

You were bouncing off of Roxy and her reads as if you thought she had info, is the closest i could come to understanding what happened. Did you think she "knew" Falcon was bad?

I'm not shading you or Roxy; I think she looked just as confused as anyone while all that was going on, and I can see Roxy sincerity pretty well.

Reading back, I picked up on the Race car thing re Falcons ability to make a 20 space movement. I kinda wish he had come back and just said it, and said it forcefully and repeatedly. I completely missed this and I would think other people did too.

@falcon45ca got free parking at the motorcade and is immune from elimination today.

"When moving, mafia may choose to roll with 2d6, 2d8 or 2d10"

That's an impressive 20-space movement, falcon.

I feel we haven't talked about this enough.

I'm also curious how a race car moved fast...




Oh wait, I figured it out

I searched the thread for race car, and other than this, Sloonei saying Falcon sleeps in a race car bad ( @Sloonei was this a joke?

Spoiler: show

@falcon45ca got free parking at the motorcade and is immune from elimination today.

"When moving, mafia may choose to roll with 2d6, 2d8 or 2d10"

That's an impressive 20-space movement, falcon.

I feel we haven't talked about this enough.

And since I now see that you get results from the first space you land on, before moving on with the doubles, it becomes more suspicious. What was the first landing if it's explained by doubles?

I could switch to falcon at this time as well, because this is suspicious. A Wolf would most likely use 2d10 in order to get access to better properties first. Argh... but that would require doubles, and he would have rolled past Free Parking, right? You can discuss or whatever, I do have to go.

To be fair, he has since pointed out that he sleeps in a race car bed. That can give him extra mileage.

Wilgy also mentioned that a race car may have a board movement effect, but his vote didn't seem to have anything to do with that.

Again, I'm not trying to shade anyone for any of this. It was very chaotic and confusing, and i voted for him myself for super shitty reasons too.

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[DrWilgy]

Okay so I got next to nothing.

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Take 2.

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[DrWilgy]

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[Roxy]

But yeah, we gotta eliminate someone. 6 hours left. I'm having some stress and find it sort of hard to focus on the game, but I'll do some reading back and pick someone. I think Lime Coke tried to vote DM, but didn't vote in the poll? But that would make her in the lead with 2 votes. If she is bad, well, she owns a green and blasted a $70 bid right out of the gates for Blue2. Those properties have the most power, and if she is bad, that would be scary. Do we choose kills based on potential overpowered Wolves? Are Wolves extra-hungry for power?

Who hasn't bid against who? A Wolf probably won't outbid their partner. Maybe that can be a factor to look at.

I think I have made almost every player up bid except for DarlingMonroe--they bid 100 for there first property auction and now the second is 70--- yah I ain't upping that bid.

Poor Lemon. Last eod was wild.

I keep going over it and I always end up stuck on Wigly's posts inre:falcon. They don't align with him being "facetious".

Going to be doing a lot reading and going over my reads and adjusting.

How so?

My posts are:
acknowledgement of Falcon being a fine vote:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

reasoning as to not to give falcon a pass:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

and then the joking/facetious post about believing falc when their response to me is 'I'm never wolf lol'

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

Doubt it, I'm always town bro

I accept this argument and will never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint.

How do you see the joke as anything other than facetious when the two posts directly prior on the subject indicate my thoughts on their slot?

Because you left out this one:

I looked at some falcon posts, and I thought they could be villainous. Like where he calls Cape not-towny for bringing up Lime Coke and Sloonei as options, and Roxy agrees, and he says "mind-meld". Could be a negative bias on the reading but it gave me bad vibes in light of Cape's town flip.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

This feels like LC's 1 real 'hunting' post and it's kinda flimsy.

I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".

LC's kinda wishy washy here. Care to elaborate and give personal opinions on SVS?

You said LC 1's case was flimsy. If you thought falcon was indeed bad why would you say this?

[DrWilgy]

Because you left out this one:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:13 pm
I looked at some falcon posts, and I thought they could be villainous. Like where he calls Cape not-towny for bringing up Lime Coke and Sloonei as options, and Roxy agrees, and he says "mind-meld". Could be a negative bias on the reading but it gave me bad vibes in light of Cape's town flip.

[VOTE: FALCON] aubergine
This feels like LC's 1 real 'hunting' post and it's kinda flimsy.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:34 pm
I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".
LC's kinda wishy washy here. Care to elaborate and give personal opinions on SVS?

You said LC 1's case was flimsy. If you thought falcon was indeed bad why would you say this?

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[Roxy]

[Roxy]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

[DrWilgy]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

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[Roxy]

you missed one @DrWilgy

[Long Con]

Wilgy, bidding happens on Discord

[Long Con]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

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[DrWilgy]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

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oh thank god. let me see if I can elaborate.

[DrWilgy]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

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oh thank god. let me see if I can elaborate.

Ok, so claiming is allowed. SO what happened was, I was cursed and only noticed the curse AFTER I posted twice. I needed someone to free me by quoting me.

[DrWilgy]

Poor Lemon. Last eod was wild.

I keep going over it and I always end up stuck on Wigly's posts inre:falcon. They don't align with him being "facetious".

Going to be doing a lot reading and going over my reads and adjusting.

How so?

My posts are:
acknowledgement of Falcon being a fine vote:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

reasoning as to not to give falcon a pass:

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

and then the joking/facetious post about believing falc when their response to me is 'I'm never wolf lol'

Falc hasn't preformed anything within ISO that I'd clarify as a T Falco post.

Would yeet.

It's summer & I've been busy?

Last time I gave you a busy pass you were wolf lol

Doubt it, I'm always town bro

I accept this argument and will never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint.

How do you see the joke as anything other than facetious when the two posts directly prior on the subject indicate my thoughts on their slot?

So like, back to this, I wanted to initially follow this with more info, as I wanted to explain that I was forced to vote Falcon:
'never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint'
was the crumb I left but wanted to clarify.

[DrWilgy]

It was when I wanted to go back and read about the need to vote falcon I saw I was cursed lol.

[S~V~S]

why are ye numbering your posts Wigly?

I am assuming it has something to do with him landing on a crazy face square, same as I did. Some kind of mild yet weird curse like my banana cash one.

And re bidding, I think I've bid against most people who have been bidding? I was a bit paranoid about overspending cause jail so i skipped some.

[S~V~S]

I miss linki so much.

[Roxy]

I miss linki so much.

yes, Yes, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me too friend, me too.

[DrWilgy]

Because you left out this one:

I looked at some falcon posts, and I thought they could be villainous. Like where he calls Cape not-towny for bringing up Lime Coke and Sloonei as options, and Roxy agrees, and he says "mind-meld". Could be a negative bias on the reading but it gave me bad vibes in light of Cape's town flip.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

This feels like LC's 1 real 'hunting' post and it's kinda flimsy.

I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".

LC's kinda wishy washy here. Care to elaborate and give personal opinions on SVS?

You said LC 1's case was flimsy. If you thought falcon was indeed bad why would you say this?

I can see LC's initial hunting as flimsy while agreeing with who they think may be scum. 'Could be a negative bias on the reading but it gave me bad vibes in light of Cape's town flip' read as a 'means to be wrong' which, yes, town do, but I think more commonly comes from a wolf justifying their push. This 'Falcon is a villain' but 'I could be wrong' made it flimsy.

[S~V~S]

So like, back to this, I wanted to initially follow this with more info, as I wanted to explain that I was forced to vote Falcon:
'never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint'
was the crumb I left but wanted to clarify.

Yesterday? So someone has a vote forcing power. I
Clarity; it isn't me. I could take money from Lemon, and I can learn what a game piece within one space of me can do, but I have not checked anyone cause I either haven't been next to anyone, or jail.

Since powers are attached to game pieces, not roles, it isn't necessarily a baddie so maybe soemone willl fess up?

[DrWilgy]

So like, back to this, I wanted to initially follow this with more info, as I wanted to explain that I was forced to vote Falcon:
'never vote you unless forced to at gunpoint'
was the crumb I left but wanted to clarify.

Yesterday? So someone has a vote forcing power. I
Clarity; it isn't me. I could take money from Lemon, and I can learn what a game piece within one space of me can do, but I have not checked anyone cause I either haven't been next to anyone, or jail.

Since powers are attached to game pieces, not roles, it isn't necessarily a baddie so maybe soemone willl fess up?

I was hoping that'd be the case, but as the I gave ample opportunity for the ill-intent to be voiced, it seems to be wolf intent.

[Roxy]

I am stuck at Wigly, LC 2 and Darling Monroe.

I do not like my POE but I guess it is what it is.

I would like to know wtf happened to Sloonei his disappearance.

[Roxy]

I will honestly take what you have posted and think about it Wigly.

I want you to be town so bad that I am giving you more leeway than I would any other player.

[Roxy]

My Iron was a 1x use and I used it to iron out my suspicion of Lemon.

[S~V~S]

I am stuck at Wigly, LC 2 and Darling Monroe.

I do not like my POE but I guess it is what it is.

I would like to know wtf happened to Sloonei his disappearance.

I feel pretty OK re Wilgy, null on LCoke, also null on Epi. Maybe I have Stockholm Syndrome, but I feel OK re you and LCon, being alone in here with you guys this weekend. I felt good about Sloonei before the last EOD, I don't understand why he switched his vote. He seemed to be pretty fixed on me before that.

The person who has my eye most is DM. They came in here, listed suspects, voted for someone other than those suspects cause they trusted you, which always bothers me, when someone lays their vote at someone elses feet, so they can lay the blame there, too. Those huge bids are like someone who doesn't worry about being bankrupted by baddies.

So that's where I am.

[Roxy]

I am stuck at Wigly, LC 2 and Darling Monroe.

I do not like my POE but I guess it is what it is.

I would like to know wtf happened to Sloonei his disappearance.

I feel pretty OK re Wilgy, null on LCoke, also null on Epi. Maybe I have Stockholm Syndrome, but I feel OK re you and LCon, being alone in here with you guys this weekend. I felt good about Sloonei before the last EOD, I don't understand why he switched his vote. He seemed to be pretty fixed on me before that.

The person who has my eye most is DM. They came in here, listed suspects, voted for someone other than those suspects cause they trusted you, which always bothers me, when someone lays their vote at someone elses feet, so they can lay the blame there, too. Those huge bids are like someone who doesn't worry about being bankrupted by baddies.

So that's where I am.

I feel the same way about Darling. Those bids!!! Crazy right? I have been actively been upping all bids bc I am not sure who to trust- total honesty there.

[S~V~S]

Trust your own judgment.

I agree.

What's the feeling behind falcon vote, @Roxy ?

I was wondering why he had time to bid on a property but no time to actually post.
Not sure if my vote is staying there. I could be headed for Wigly.

I would fully support with you a Wilgy vote. falcon seems more of not as active town, than scummy wolf. I could be wrong.

I'd trust Roxy, so if falcon it is, Falcon it is.

See this progression bothers me more than the bids. Although they bother me too. 9:27, DM thinks maybe Falcon is town, but they could be wrong

Then 7 minutes later, they trust Roxy enough to vote for the person they just said they thought was town. Cause Roxy said so.

This just really bothers me, so Imma [VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine and then spend the rest of the night waiting for them to come in here and go to town on me lol

[Sloonei]

I had a busy weekend that made me want to turn my brain off and not think for a day. I’ll cast a vote somewhere before this is up. I can’t promise that a single thought will cross through my mind, though.

[Roxy]

Trust your own judgment.

I agree.

What's the feeling behind falcon vote, @Roxy ?

I was wondering why he had time to bid on a property but no time to actually post.
Not sure if my vote is staying there. I could be headed for Wigly.

I would fully support with you a Wilgy vote. falcon seems more of not as active town, than scummy wolf. I could be wrong.

I'd trust Roxy, so if falcon it is, Falcon it is.

See this progression bothers me more than the bids. Although they bother me too. 9:27, DM thinks maybe Falcon is town, but they could be wrong

Then 7 minutes later, they trust Roxy enough to vote for the person they just said they thought was town. Cause Roxy said so.

This just really bothers me, so Imma [VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine and then spend the rest of the night waiting for them to come in here and go to town on me lol

I will follow you for now DarlingMonroe

don't think I did not realize about them giving me credit for their falcon vote. I just wanted to play a game with them and was so hoping they are town but they are playing differently than I have become accustomed to on the other site we play together on.

[DarlingMonroe]

Hi, catching up right now. Why are there so many votes on me? Lol.

[DarlingMonroe]

I don't wanna be defensive but I feel very attacked right now.