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Re: [D3] Top Artists Mafia

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Lemonfairy wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
you really won't consider LC?
Not till F3
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Re: [D3] Top Artists Mafia

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Why make it harder than it needs to be
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pm Why make it harder than it needs to be
because I think it's just LC and I'm multitabling 3 games so I don't want to drag it out another day if we don't need to
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sigh, LC will probably vote with you on DM
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but if it really is LC, they probably have to NK me so I don't end up in F3
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Re: [D3] Top Artists Mafia

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I'd rather not lose to the afks cause we are too busy infighting
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Re: [D3] Top Artists Mafia

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I'm probably just gonna end up quoting everything involving Cannoticale considering how short the thread is
Cannoticale wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:27 pm [VOTE: •Princess Abigail•] aubergine
distance vote Abi lock w (fr though I think this is v/w but wouldn't stake my life on it or antying like that)
Lemonfairy wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:29 pm
Cannoticale wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:27 pm [VOTE: •PRINCESS ABIGAIL•] aubergine
wow cannoticale is even more bold
says nothing and places a vote immediately

is the lack of word count concerning? is the vote concerning?
mayhaps
maybe a good look depending on where lemonfairy takes this

lemon and abi go after each other more than cannoticale when it's just the three of them in the thread but it isn't actually serious so it's w/e
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:46 am thinking about how possible it is for cannot to have voted Abi so early to distance
might call this a mindmeld since I'm reading it as "cannot didn't vote Abi as w/w right"

I think Lemonfairy on page 1 is probably town. Seems like she's trying to push things and move the thread forward
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:39 pm Wowee team is Cannoticale or whatever and Wilgy
Abi is just town
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:40 pm Wowee Lemon is top town I think they've kept a consistent albeit incorrect worldview and are trying to Jumpstart the game
She is so town this is literally where I am at. Maybe I'm calling her town to easily but she's arriving right where I think town should be when no one besides Lemon was really doing anything yet
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:48 pm
Cannoticale wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:47 pm [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
Explain
leaning this as being probably not w/w. Cannoticale just not responding to their teammate also feels like something that would have caused a prod in wolf chat if the team is cannot/abi as well
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:24 pm actually

[VOTE: Cannot] aubergine
she is so town. This isn't TMI either since Lemon was going for Abi when it was Lemon/Abi/Cannot

Honestly even before post 100 I'm willing to bet the game on Lemon and Abi being town
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:42 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:40 pm Wowee Lemon is top town I think they've kept a consistent albeit incorrect worldview and are trying to Jumpstart the game
that read switch up on me felt very abrupt
but also probably town indicative
@Lemonfairy can you talk to me about why you felt this was town indicative? I felt the same but I also want you to explain it in your own words how you felt at the time
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:47 pm
Roxy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:53 pm don't worry Princess you will forever reign in the honor of top poster, no one can supplant you!
idk if I'm reading too much into things but this feels a bit pockety?
kinda weird logic and also want this explained. Just seems like early game banter that comes from both factions
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:03 pm really liking SVS's posts
feels qualitatively different from last game's

hope I'm not getting pocketed again
real and I like it

I am not quoting Long Con's posts but it feels like he is just present in the thread for the sake of being in the thread. Not the best look
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:10 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:20 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine for now
Wowee why?
read changed
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:10 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:24 pm actually

[VOTE: Cannot] aubergine
Wowee why?
probably the most suspicious out of everyone so far

I think with Roxy, I like to imagine I'd be able to get a better read on with more posts if I'm wrong (or I could sheep someone else's read there)
Writing this when i don't know how soon EOD was after this but I think that Lemon if wolf if trapping herself on the Cannot wagon since I don't see a Roxy wagon as particularly likely to organically form
Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:47 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:21 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:01 pm Wilgy's intentional inscrutability.
you think it's intentional?
then do you think it's bad intentional or NAI intentional?
I think that a Town member should do their best to appear Town, not to be inscrutable.
Well Long con either thinks that Wilgy is town, or it's dodging the question about "hey is this AI or not"

kinda don't like it
Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:49 pm
Cannoticale wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:44 pm I made a big mistake and don't really have the time to be invested into this game.
That kind of thing engenders the most regret when a Wolf team is counting on you.

[VOTE: Connaticale] aubergine
also think that this vote might be TMI and bussing his teammate. The quote that he's posting is not AI imo and ideally Cannoticale would be expected to be replaced?

Abi and Lemon are voting Cannoticale and i think for both of them with Cannoticale not posting her way out of it that means that someone else has to shit the bed for them to move, Abi and Lemon also stand out as the players who have the most activity and effort invested in the game thus far and no one besides SVS has discrete takes, and SVS and Cannoticale is the only person they really sus in p#78 unless you want to count Falcon.

Given these developments it kinda feels easy to see that Cannoticale is probably just going to go over today unless someone starts posting really poorly. I think this is a bus vote, and a shaky justification for it
Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm I know that voting Cannoticale for the reason I did is sort of cheap, but it's one of the first things I thought of, and it's based on experience. You can be Town in a game in which you don't really have time, and skate by, and be like "yeah sorry everyone", but in a 7-2 game as a Wolf, it becomes more of an issue. Is this way too angleshooty, and I should be like a lawyer where the judge has disacarded certain evidence?
lmao

eh even if this is wrong I TR Lemon and Abi
Cannoticale wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.

Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.

Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).

Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
eh maybe my prior thing is wrong bc cannot is trying to post but I also think that it's pretty visible from the state of the thread that Cannoticale was going down so, it just looks like a bus vote to me

This post is shading Lemon and Abi, Lemonfairy especially. but I think that cannoticale thinks they can still live if they are making this (idk how close the eod vote was yet), maybe even more town points for them?

SVS says that LC is a opportunist civ lmao, but I think they are a opportunistic wolf, since while they were actually the second vote on Cannoticale, they might as well have been the fourth since I feel that SVS was always going to vote Cannoticale and that was visible on page 2, and Abi was calling out Cannoticale as a possible wolf then to 9though she hasn't voted yet)
Lemonfairy wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:09 am
Cannoticale wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.

Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.

Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).

Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
I have also heard a snippet of Roxy not being active in a wolf game but I believe it is more NAI than AI

do you think "awkward" posting is scum indicative?

if Cannot is wolf, I think this post spewed Long Con as town

this feels too waffly for my taste... although now that I read it again...
I think what you said - that Abi doesn't care about what other people think about her and that she cares about the game - are not conflicting statements
but the way you worded it - she does indeed care - reads like you're backing out of the initial "not care" stance

if I read more into it, it comes off as a bit ingenuous because the content of your post suggests a townread but your wording suggests you don't want to give that townread
strongly disagree that this post spews LC town, can totally see that as just a justification to townread their teammate and hope that the heat dies down since if it does they only really have 2 town votes on them at this point (if LC w). That read can totally come from a wolf, especially a newer one that wants a reason to townread her teammate. That said Lemonfairy might as well be an IC since if they are a wolf they are just closing off pathways to potential town yeets left and right

rest of page 3 is just is Lemonfairy continuing to be town
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:19 am
S~V~S wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:10 am
Lemonfairy wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:53 am omg I really like SVS's post on Cannot
even if she thinks we might be partnered and distancing :ike:
It just feels like she doesn’t believe it herself to me :shrug:

Also I’m somewhat influenced by my own play; that is what I do when I’m bad a lot. I did it in Lasso, I spent a good chunk of the game making a weak case on Scotty, my teammate, but not trying too hard to get him yeeted. So when I was yeeted, it made him look like gold.

I said you feel town to me, but I had to say how Cannots post made me feel because that was the feel it gave me. If she is bad, there could be other reasons for an insincere case.

That’s why I qualified it with imma judge you on you.

And Abbi, not sure what you mean?
LCs rationale was bad and wolfy

Kill wolfy people

But cannot is not someone I town read either so I don't mind following the consensus

Maybe I will just call Cannot/LC a diff check and move on wheee
I think not voting Cannot isn't what wolf Abi does in this situation, she probably wants the cred and there is no hope of LC going over when Lemon is calling LC spewed, and rightfully calling out LC's post as wolfy while maintaining that both of them are sus is good.
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 pm Imma sheep Wilgy





[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
kinda think that falcon would bus here if wolf but i actually don't know him at all and don't have any vibes from him

Long Con has some posts at eod1 but also I kinda don't care for them, he's pushing roxy who got yeeted d2 it looks like

This is the tl;dr of my d1 read through

Lemonfairy is basically a inno child
Princess Abi is pretty strongly town
Falcon did not much and I have 0 read on him

Long Con's justification to vote Cannoticale was pretty shaky and could be a bus vote since it's pretty visible at the time that Cannoticale is the most likely vote out by far since the three most active people in the thread are sussing her. I think that Cannoticale's read on Lemonfairy is not w/w, and their read on Long Con could easily be partnered

I would kill Long Con rn ez

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Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:07 pm Period of silence for Connaticale and S~V~S.

Anyway, so am I still Wolfy then?
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:48 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:07 pm Period of silence for Connaticale and S~V~S.

Anyway, so am I still Wolfy then?
yes
I will say I hated that part lol
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Syn wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:05 pm D1 vote count
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Ok decided to take a look at the VC again

No one is going to tie or switch to the Wilgy wagon that's pretty much a wolf claim

I think vanities after Falcon's Wilgy vote would look not great admitidly... but no votes happened after that vote

imma be real this was 100% prompted by the below post from LC which basically shaded everyone who wasn't on the Cannot wagon
Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:10 pm DarlingMonroe and falcon showed up and were cool, but their votes aren't that great-looking on the poll. falcon joined Wilgy on Wilgy, making the only path to saving Cannoticale possible. DM voted on a falcon vanity wagon maybe? Abigail, Roxy, Wilgy all off and frolicking unconsolidated. Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess.
I will say that voting Cannot looks good for Lemon especially, but I don't like LC's vote since Abi and SVS had basically telegraphed future votes onto cannot anyway (even though abi didn't end up voting Cannot)
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Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:17 pm I don't think it's Lemonfairy, based on Cannoticale's posts. Cannoticale put the most shade on Lemonfairy.
Cannoticale wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.

Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.

Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).

Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
This is Player Salad. Cannoticale mentioned their partner here. It's not me or Lemon.

I was having some doubts about Roxy's genuineness just before EoD. So that makes her an easy choice. Abbi tried to make me into the Wolf after I told my reason for suspecting Cannoticale, so she might also be the partner.

[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine
yeah it's player salad, the partner is you

LC does correctly clear Lemonfairy but no one was going to go for Lemonfairy anyway. I guess that Lemonfairy living is a town point since LC clearly recognizes that Lemon is clearer than SVS (and they both have LC as top town anyway (SVS has LC as top town, Lemon as spew clear) so one wouldn't be a better kill than the other on that metric)

I'm not going to quote posts where Lemon is super towny on D2 but she has at least one, and it's about how LC is in a prime position for bussing
Lemonfairy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:57 pm I would go so far as to say that I will veto an Abi elim today
actually quoting this one to say wolves dont box themselves in
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Lemonfairy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:18 pm I am ready to initiate hammer voting.
how are you sure that Cannot's post contains a wolf?
how are you sure it's not Roxy but Abi?
I was willing to hammer Roxy and Abbi in whatever order it took. I'm sure that Cannot's post contains their partner because that's how it works in my experience. I'm open to other cases, but this is what I see in Cannot's post.

Your other tangent about me being the last Wolf is not correct.
chainsaw on what looks like two villagers
Long Con wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:28 pm I am of the opinion that the game will end if we hammer Roxy. That said, we should certainly hold the hammer until more people show up and give opinions.
how did you get to Roxy > Abi @Long Con ? you were voting Abi at the start of day and moved to Roxy not because you were convinced, but to assent to Lemon shielding Abi
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Roxy wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:50 pm@Long Con I have thought you town from the beginning of this game. Your case on Cann was an LC town style thing. I do not think you would bus a member d 1 it is just not the OG way. It is also not very LC. After playing so many games together I am still shocked you can never find me as town. One of these days - maybe but it does not look like it will happen today as you are pushing for my elim based on Can's posts stating I was playing different than last game. For me is was a shit read post. From a baddie who knew they were going down. How silly (I mean that in a nice way)not to read me yourself but instead just use a baddie post to point to me and say - see - she is bad. Like wow I do expect more from you than you ever give. :stare:
I am not pushing for your elim based on Can's posts saying you are playing different. If they said that, I didn't commit it to long-term memory because it would be meaningless to me.

Cannoticale named four players in one post, and it is a classic tell for a baddie to do so. You are more than familiar with the term Player Salad, which is the tell I referenced when declaring you as a Wolf.

That you would so grossly misrepresent my stated reason for voting you indicates that you are not reading in order to understand and solve, you are reading in order to be able to post the right words to survive.

The same accusation applies to the fact that you ignored my EoD post about you, which had reasons to call you a Wolf. You present my suspicion as believing Cannoticale's words against you, and ignore what was actually said before the yeet:
Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:33 pmRoxy says she feels the same, in that she agrees with Abigail not liking a vote cast for Lemon.

I thought Abigail was saying she did not like the Wilgy Shtick and what it entailed.

Two very different interpretations, and I'm inclined to feel that, if I'm right, then Roxy could be a Wolf who is trying to pocket Abigail through agreement.
Furthermore, that accusation is consistent with the more recent one: you read Abigail's post in order to pocket her, not to understand and solve, and this is revealed by what I consider a skim-read interpretation of her actual meaning. Reading in order to figure out how to survive, not to understand and solve.
Want to call this out as frankly I feel that his Roxy post the previous day could have just been getting ready for the next day as wolf but idk I could be tunneled

I also feel that LC isn't trying to solve, he's working from a predetermined conclusion and the work that he is doing is not trying to solve, but to justify that conclusion (this is not about Roxy tbc, this is specifically about how he reads Abi and Cannoticale)

Quite frankly the only thing in favor of LC is that people who townread him are dying

Falcon has posted like 5 times since game start and zero times since d1 but w/e I think that LC is actively wolfy and just a hit, though I'm kinda scared to vote in case I'm wrong and it is Abi or Lemon though I'm pretty confident both are town

@falcon45ca you alive?
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:53 pm Starting with DM
yo abi why is my slot wolfier than falcons
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Long Con wasn't even wrong for the right reasons on Roxy imo and his focus on specifically his part of Roxy's reads of the whole thread is imo kinda telling of his direction, he only cares about refuting anything surrounding him

the only towny thing about him is that Lemonfairy didn't die N2

Anyway, Lemonfairy is my top town, I don't think that I re-ev that even if we're both alive in f3. Abi is pretty strong town as well. Falcon I have basically nothing on but LC just feels like a wolf
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
you really won't consider LC?
Not till F3
Abi could I get a ranking ofthe players in this game towniest to wolfiest?
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Can't believe Wilgy went. I thought I'd be voting him.

I haven't read whatever misinformation Dolby is lathering on, but it's ridiculous to consider me the Wolf here. Also can't believe it wasn't Roxy.

But, go ahead and yeet me if you believe whatever is being trumped up here. Looks like a lot of energy will be needed to refute these past fifty posts, so it might take some time, if I feel up to it.

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Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:30 pm Can't believe Wilgy went. I thought I'd be voting him.

I haven't read whatever misinformation Dolby is lathering on, but it's ridiculous to consider me the Wolf here. Also can't believe it wasn't Roxy.

But, go ahead and yeet me if you believe whatever is being trumped up here. Looks like a lot of energy will be needed to refute these past fifty posts, so it might take some time, if I feel up to it.

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if you believe it's misinfo vote me then

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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:19 pm Long Con wasn't even wrong for the right reasons on Roxy imo and his focus on specifically his part of Roxy's reads of the whole thread is imo kinda telling of his direction, he only cares about refuting anything surrounding him
What are you even talking about. My suspicion of Roxy was from her shallow-read misunderstandings of the PA post, and then later her response to my post. She said that I voted her for a completely different reason that she made up and then decried. Finally, she tried to guilt trip me out with "known me for years but can never read me" and when I checked on that it was false.

There isn't any "refutation" going on in any of that that I'm "only caring about", so if this kind of distasteful misrepresentation of my posts is what I have to look forward to, then I need another drink.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:30 pm Can't believe Wilgy went. I thought I'd be voting him.

I haven't read whatever misinformation Dolby is lathering on, but it's ridiculous to consider me the Wolf here. Also can't believe it wasn't Roxy.

But, go ahead and yeet me if you believe whatever is being trumped up here. Looks like a lot of energy will be needed to refute these past fifty posts, so it might take some time, if I feel up to it.

It ain't me.
if you believe it's misinfo vote me then

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Why are you like this? Ok, fine, you're obviously the last Wolf. Don't make me say the obvious reason why.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Let's end this please, guys.
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Lemonfairy wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:51 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pm Why make it harder than it needs to be
because I think it's just LC and I'm multitabling 3 games so I don't want to drag it out another day if we don't need to
Why do you think it's me? Do you think my case against Roxy was fake? It didn't feel fake when I was saying it, it felt like Roxy was lying about me. I don't know why she did that, but I thought there was only one evident reason. I was wrong. I don't see how I have acted like a Wolf at all, and I don't understand this jump.

Unless - and this isn't a threat - you're actually the last Wolf. Then, I have already conceded unless things change a lot. You're the Towniest player I've got. It wasn't Wilgy. It ain't falcon. I'm cool with Abbi but I'm also aware that she was the other Player in the Salad, and my original other candidate. I have felt good about her since then but I could be wrong.

And DarlingMonroe was a nonentity until recently, and now Dolby has arrived with such vigour to save the game. This is the last Wolf, in my opinion. Revitalized.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:35 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:19 pm Long Con wasn't even wrong for the right reasons on Roxy imo and his focus on specifically his part of Roxy's reads of the whole thread is imo kinda telling of his direction, he only cares about refuting anything surrounding him
What are you even talking about. My suspicion of Roxy was from her shallow-read misunderstandings of the PA post, and then later her response to my post. She said that I voted her for a completely different reason that she made up and then decried. Finally, she tried to guilt trip me out with "known me for years but can never read me" and when I checked on that it was false.

There isn't any "refutation" going on in any of that that I'm "only caring about", so if this kind of distasteful misrepresentation of my posts is what I have to look forward to, then I need another drink.
tbh I kinda forgot about the Roxy pocketing Abbi through agreement point, however, a lot of how you interacted with Roxy looks like you were hammering a nail

I have to admit I may be biased since I came in seeing Roxy's flip in the OP, however your interactions with Roxy on D2 are basically Roxy saying that you should be able to find them as town here, and you just not. Saying hey I found you in these four games as accurate alignment is not a towny thing to do since town Roxy seems to just be feeling that. I find that people who say stuff like that are about rand and it's really an NAI thing and they are often frustrated at not being found. You used that to just continue hammering into the slot. I also think that her saying that she misread Abi's post doesn't warrant dropping the sus entrirely of course but it definetely warrants taking a step back and evaluating it if you're town

Also, how did you shift to thinking it was not Abi over the course of d2?
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I didn't "hammer the slot". I stated why I suspected her, and I responded to her appropriately. You're still using weighted language to describe behaviour that doesn't warrant it.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:46 pmAlso, how did you shift to thinking it was not Abi over the course of d2?
Combination of her posts didn't make me suspect her, and Lemon felt she was Town I think, which does affect my opinion, and most of all I was so damn sure Roxy was a hit. Like, I told my wife about the reasons like I'm some Mafia pro detective. Like it was a done deal.

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I think I'm just gonna chill for a bit tbh

I just can't see it being Lemon and am pretty confident it isn't Abi
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:39 am I actually think cannot avoided mentioning their teammate specifically and intentionally and I think my god cop bad cop theory is right

I think I'm secretly goated and it really was just cannot wilgy

I will follow consensus if it lands on another slot though
It can be argued that this is not the post of a Wolf that decides to kill Wilgy last night.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:04 pm I think I'm just gonna chill for a bit tbh

I just can't see it being Lemon and am pretty confident it isn't Abi
LOL ok I guess we agree on Abbi.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:07 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:04 pm I think I'm just gonna chill for a bit tbh

I just can't see it being Lemon and am pretty confident it isn't Abi
LOL ok I guess we agree on Abbi.
crazy that we're voting each other when we have the exact same townreads LOL
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Except, you know, you were just *saying* it, and I was coming with a reason I just found in order to *back it up*. Like, I'm trying to clear the waters with facts, and your endorsement of Abbi was lacking that. Just wanted to point out the difference, and it's because I *am* Town and I am still interested in figuring this out.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:08 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:07 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:04 pm I think I'm just gonna chill for a bit tbh

I just can't see it being Lemon and am pretty confident it isn't Abi
LOL ok I guess we agree on Abbi.
crazy that we're voting each other when we have the exact same townreads LOL
Okay, I see where this is going, and I want to say that this day ending with everyone voting falcon would be SUPER lame because it is. I don't need to elaborate. But if we don't, then he's in the final 3. I'd rather it just be you.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:09 pm Except, you know, you were just *saying* it, and I was coming with a reason I just found in order to *back it up*. Like, I'm trying to clear the waters with facts, and your endorsement of Abbi was lacking that. Just wanted to point out the difference, and it's because I *am* Town and I am still interested in figuring this out.
I have my reasons for how I got to them being town and you being wolf outlined pretty extensively

I think you got to Abi v on Day Two because it was easier for you to push Roxy and not go against Lemon, and Roxy was where more support was beginning to move towards anyawy
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Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:11 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:08 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:07 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:04 pm I think I'm just gonna chill for a bit tbh

I just can't see it being Lemon and am pretty confident it isn't Abi
LOL ok I guess we agree on Abbi.
crazy that we're voting each other when we have the exact same townreads LOL
Okay, I see where this is going, and I want to say that this day ending with everyone voting falcon would be SUPER lame because it is. I don't need to elaborate. But if we don't, then he's in the final 3. I'd rather it just be you.
I'm not voting Falcon and was not attempting to move there
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Will he come back to vote?
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I doubt it but hopefully he'll be replaced before f3 we've got like 3 days. Voting him out today would change nothing about our current situation imo
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:12 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:09 pm Except, you know, you were just *saying* it, and I was coming with a reason I just found in order to *back it up*. Like, I'm trying to clear the waters with facts, and your endorsement of Abbi was lacking that. Just wanted to point out the difference, and it's because I *am* Town and I am still interested in figuring this out.
I have my reasons for how I got to them being town and you being wolf outlined pretty extensively

I think you got to Abi v on Day Two because it was easier for you to push Roxy and not go against Lemon, and Roxy was where more support was beginning to move towards anyawy
I mean, I think I just told why I went Roxy over Abbi as thoroughly as I could just a few posts ago. I didn't know at the time that Lemon, Abbi, and I would have such thread domination at that time, so "easier" is only hindsight in that Roxy didn't show up until much later. And yes, Roxy support didn't do anything to move off her, but my reasons for suspecting her are pretty well-documented, and peer pressure probably didn't play a huge part all in all.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:18 pm I doubt it but hopefully he'll be replaced before f3 we've got like 3 days. Voting him out today would change nothing about our current situation imo
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:53 pm Ok decided to take a look at the VC again

No one is going to tie or switch to the Wilgy wagon that's pretty much a wolf claim

I think vanities after Falcon's Wilgy vote would look not great admitidly... but no votes happened after that vote

imma be real this was 100% prompted by the below post from LC which basically shaded everyone who wasn't on the Cannot wagon
Long Con wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:10 pm DarlingMonroe and falcon showed up and were cool, but their votes aren't that great-looking on the poll. falcon joined Wilgy on Wilgy, making the only path to saving Cannoticale possible. DM voted on a falcon vanity wagon maybe? Abigail, Roxy, Wilgy all off and frolicking unconsolidated. Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess.
I will say that voting Cannot looks good for Lemon especially, but I don't like LC's vote since Abi and SVS had basically telegraphed future votes onto cannot anyway (even though abi didn't end up voting Cannot)
How did I "basically shade" everyone. I read my post again, and the conclusion clearly says "Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess". As in, I didn't come up with any reason good enough to say "that's the Wolf", so I should try something else. Why would you say this about me when the post says the opposite?

I had my own reason for voting Cannoticale, and it had nothing to do with what anyone was "telegraphing".
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:49 pm
Cannoticale wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:44 pm I made a big mistake and don't really have the time to be invested into this game.
That kind of thing engenders the most regret when a Wolf team is counting on you.

[VOTE: Connaticale] aubergine
also think that this vote might be TMI and bussing his teammate. The quote that he's posting is not AI imo and ideally Cannoticale would be expected to be replaced?
No way I will ever bus my teammate in this situation. Cannoticale would have been replaced and that replacement would have had some leeway to stretch their legs, and that would have been far superior. The idea that apologizing as something incriminating would not have entered the thread. I don't even believe that that kind of bussing is worthwhile, and frankly the situation I'm in now is evidence of it. It's just not me.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:13 pm
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yo abi why is my slot wolfier than falcons
No particular reason I just have a soft spot for Falcon lol
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Dolby wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:27 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
you really won't consider LC?
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Don't want to go Falcon

Don't have a reason to TR him, LC is just the hit to me

Abi, can you articulate to me why LC is town in your eyes?
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I have told the truth about my posts that you tried to present as shady. Are you so tunneled that you're going to ignore each one? No. You just don't have another viable option at this point.
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Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:05 am I have told the truth about my posts that you tried to present as shady. Are you so tunneled that you're going to ignore each one? No. You just don't have another viable option at this point.
nah you're just a wolf man
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Dolby wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:05 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:05 am I have told the truth about my posts that you tried to present as shady. Are you so tunneled that you're going to ignore each one? No. You just don't have another viable option at this point.
nah you're just a wolf man
I get that you need people to believe that, but it's not real, and I think I have several posts that make this apparent.
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Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:07 am
Dolby wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:05 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:05 am I have told the truth about my posts that you tried to present as shady. Are you so tunneled that you're going to ignore each one? No. You just don't have another viable option at this point.
nah you're just a wolf man
I get that you need people to believe that, but it's not real, and I think I have several posts that make this apparent.
no it isn't lol

all you did was vote a wolf that was going to die anyway for shaky reasons, stop pushing Abi bc that push wasn't popular, and just piledrive Roxy on the basis of Roxy not being happy about not being found as town
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And besides that, I don't believe you've believed in any of the reads you've made this game
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I have not posted a thing I don't believe. Again, I'm pretty confident that reading certain posts will reflect that.
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Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:19 am I have not posted a thing I don't believe. Again, I'm pretty confident that reading certain posts will reflect that.
LC it should be pretty obvious from my walls that i did not read a single post before i replaced in

how do you reconcile it with the process I have displayed in those walls? How does that reconcile with me having strong reasons to townread abi and lemon and end on you when that's purportedly the best play for mafia according to you, and yet, I had no knowledge that you would be the only "viable option" for day three when making my reading through and analyzing day one
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I'm the only viable option *after* your wall. You specifically shaded me and praised them, because that was your strategy. Then you take falcon out in F3 I guess?
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Re: [D3] Top Artists Mafia

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Post by ☆Princess Abigail☆ »

Dolby wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:02 am Don't want to go Falcon

Don't have a reason to TR him, LC is just the hit to me

Abi, can you articulate to me why LC is town in your eyes?
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You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.

High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
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