The Donner Party - Day 7

[nijuukyugou]

The way those two were playing, I had a feeling something weird like that would happen, especially with that last vote. I see a "lunch prevention" role but other than that...dunno about the self votes. And no other idea yet of why it went down like it did (including the no rotation).

Y'all are crazy. And I'm going with 1, because I am so

[nijuukyugou]

It's nice to actually be here to play in real time every once in a while

[Zombarella]

What do we pm to Roxy at night? Also voting 1

[Tangrowth]

Oh, yes, don't get me wrong -- there is Jacob Donner's role, but I figured since Elizabeth Donner brought the light onto Epi, I discounted that possibility altogether.

Oh well. Guess we'll see what happens tonight.

Linki w/ Blooper: Indeed, reminds me of Clue! What a fun game that was.

Linki w/ Zomb: Night time is when any role powers are PMed to Rox. So if your role has a power that is usable during the night time, as is typical, then you can PM that to her. It's basically a repeat of Night 0. Except this time kills can and will be used.

[S~V~S]

Can we not lynch Epi? I wanted to play mafia with him.

Agreed. I thought I'd see some insight reading through the thread why he and LC are the top candidates. It seems Epi's being voted for being Epi. Let the man play, for God's sake! :P LC seems to be voted because of (possibly fake?) infodumping, even though others have seemingly done the same, and given this as a reason to vote Epi (the whole "it's probability" thing). And now LC's voted himself. So many self votes and switches. Is there something I'm missing? There's definitely some weirdness going on here. Weird game. So let's make it interesting.

Let's make it a tie and see what happens.

I thought people were voting for Epi becasue of FZ's theory about probability. I voted for him because of how he reacted to my vote for Zomba. I think he knows I am not bad, and he voted for me anyhow.

In any case all the self voting, yikes.

[Epignosis]

Only one theory springs to mind since there is no apparent lunch stop:

Epi is either Hunger or Winter and the "secrets" that he was talking about is that one or both of them has a lunch stop.

Hence why he didn't care using it up, since he'll probably switch out anyway, and it hurts the baddie team a bit.

That's all I got.

Jacob Donner - Brother/Father - You have a secret stash of food giving him the chance to prevent one lunch from happening.

I'm totally Jacob Donner. Elizabeth was just mad at me the other day because I had too much to drink.

Wait...




what...



oohh

[nijuukyugou]

Ah, Clue. Still holds my record number of posts, even though I died so early. Good times

Good point about Donner. Forgot about that. I'm looking at roles and trying to come up with possible scenarios, but it seems it would be quite complicated with more than one factor (without secrets) for it to happen like it did. More thinking required. Also, why am I talking like Rorschach?

And @SVS, that's what I mean by the "probability thing," except I was combining it with the fact that LC seemed to have voted Epi in agreement with FZ's probability theory, as he was so-called "infodumping" to further prove FZ's point (further the probability). I did not say it quite so eloquently before.

Rob's such a troll.

[S~V~S]

But it seems quite a few people know he isn't on their team as well as not being a Donner. So

[Epignosis]

Can we not lynch Epi? I wanted to play mafia with him.

Agreed. I thought I'd see some insight reading through the thread why he and LC are the top candidates. It seems Epi's being voted for being Epi. Let the man play, for God's sake! :P LC seems to be voted because of (possibly fake?) infodumping, even though others have seemingly done the same, and given this as a reason to vote Epi (the whole "it's probability" thing). And now LC's voted himself. So many self votes and switches. Is there something I'm missing? There's definitely some weirdness going on here. Weird game. So let's make it interesting.

Let's make it a tie and see what happens.

I thought people were voting for Epi becasue of FZ's theory about probability. I voted for him because of how he reacted to my vote for Zomba. I think he knows I am not bad, and he voted for me anyhow.

In any case all the self voting, yikes.

I didn't vote for you.

[Tangrowth]

But it seems quite a few people know he isn't on their team as well as not being a Donner. So

Hence my Weather/Hunger theory. I can't think of anything else.

And the only person that seemed to defend Epi was Trice, so make of that what you will.

[S~V~S]

Yeah, Epi, you did for a little while. I hope someone caught that poll, i just came in here to do it, and it was gone.

[Zombarella]

I'm super confused. Is Epi telling us he's Jacob Donner? Is that for real? What in the world is going on?

[S~V~S]

She danced around a vote for me.

She easily voted for you when she had elsewhere expressed a distaste for voting for new people (welcome by the way).

She criticized my methods but didn't vote for me.

All of this is antithetical to what I believe a good S~V~S would do.

Nah, I am good. And I think you know it. We can change votes here unlike in Film. But I totally dislike her analysis on Snowman, whom I believe to be good.

So this reaction makes me feel OK about switching my vote to you. Thanks for giving me a clear reaction so quickly

Ah. Again with what I know.

So something you posted weeks ago in another game before this game began was something you were cognizant of when you voted for Zomberella in order to gauge my reaction?

Talk about skillful planning.

Also i have no clue what you are talking about here, lambikins.

[Ricochet]

wat

Motto of this game, everyone. And i'm starting to think Dom was smart enough to get out of here in time.

Anyway, either Roxy is messing with us or perhaps Margret Reed's double-vote brought it to a tie. I don't really get the Weather/Hunger theory, they can protect each other during nights only.

[Epignosis]

Hence my Weather/Hunger theory. I can't think of anything else.

Cool theory. I use a secret lynch save no one knows about instead of just voting LC on the fly and keeping it. You should write more of those.

Now, if you will excuse me, I must go write my post for Night 11 of The Syndicate's 2014 Game of Infodumpers and Role-Outers.

[Tangrowth]

I'm super confused. Is Epi telling us he's Jacob Donner? Is that for real? What in the world is going on?

I believe he's clearly making a joke.

I find the possibility that he's Jacob Donner laughable at best:
1) Elizabeth Donner cast suspicion onto him when otherwise she didn't need to.
2) He self-voted, then voted S~V~S, then moved back and caused the lynch himself. No reason for him to use up a civilian resource if he is currently a civilian and is likely to switch to one later as well.
3) Epi would never out his own role.

Unless Epi and whoever is Elizabeth Donner are BOTH clearly playing the chaos "I don't give a ____" role. Which is possible, but there's still #3.

I just doubt it so much. Something else is at play here, especially given Epi's warning about "secrets". It may have been fabricated, but chances are there's some truth to it, in light of his survival.

[Tangrowth]

wat

Motto of this game, everyone. And i'm starting to think Dom was smart enough to get out of here in time.

Anyway, either Roxy is messing with us or perhaps Margret Reed's double-vote brought it to a tie. I don't really get the Weather/Hunger theory, they can protect each other during nights only.

Yeah, it's a pretty poor theory, I only thought it would make sense for the SK team to have a secret lunch stop. It's not based on anything evident.

[Zombarella]

Did anyone take a snapshot of the poll before it closed?

[Ricochet]

Did anyone take a snapshot of the poll before it closed?

Yes.

[S~V~S]

4 is a LOST number.

[Zombarella]

4 is a LOST number.

Changing to 4 b/c I want SVS to like me.

[S~V~S]

4 is a LOST number.

Changing to 4 b/c I want SVS to like me.

That's so sweet <3

[S~V~S]

[S~V~S]

doh

[Zombarella]

wat

Motto of this game, everyone. And i'm starting to think Dom was smart enough to get out of here in time.

Anyway, either Roxy is messing with us or perhaps Margret Reed's double-vote brought it to a tie. I don't really get the Weather/Hunger theory, they can protect each other during nights only.

Maybe the self voters are Reeds and they were trying to make a tie so no one would die.

[triceratopzeuhl]

eeeenteresting

[triceratopzeuhl]

This poll ends at 7 pm on a Friday. I have a feeling not a lot of people will be around (party!), leaving ample opportunity for deceptive last minute vote switching. Very troubling.

Given that it ended at 5:00 pm on a friday in my time zone, not only am I drunk but I was still eating dinner at a pub

[Epignosis]

Now that the Game of Champions is over, I can spend more quality time making all of you think things that aren't true.

[Epignosis]

Dang auto correct.

I meant, "Helping you understand what's going on."

[thellama73]

No lunch, huh? I'm not sure I like that, and I'm still hungry.

[Marmot]

Dang auto correct.

I meant, "Helping you understand what's going on."

You're not very consistent. My spelling is far more consestant.

[thellama73]

I voted 2. Manicheanism, ftw.

[Black Rock]

Oh shit, I better vote for a number since we need one. I'm going for the popular 4.

[Black Rock]

Oh shit, I better vote for a number since we need one. I'm going for the popular 4.

I meant oh damn, since I think this is one of those games we were told to remember there were youngsters...

[Marmot]

First person to vote 3 after me gets my lunchvote tomorrow.

[Black Rock]

First person to vote 3 after me gets my lunchvote tomorrow.

Such a mean threat. Good thing I voted before you.

I can't believe how many backspaces this post needed...

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I'm calling a mafia night.

[fingersplints]

sorry I missed the vote. I'm probably going to have to start voting early so I don't fall asleep and miss it.

#1 is for winners

[fingersplints]

Oh shit, I better vote for a number since we need one. I'm going for the popular 4.

I meant oh damn, since I think this is one of those games we were told to remember there were youngsters...

Also, is this true?
I'll have to try to remember to watch my language

[S~V~S]

Yeah, there is a young man amongst us, not too young iirc, but we still want to avoid George Carlins 7 Words.

[Long Con]

First person to vote 3 after me gets my lunchvote tomorrow.

Voted 3. Hopefully I'll be a baddie tomorrow and this can work out.

[Marmot]

First person to vote 3 after me gets my lunchvote tomorrow.

Voted 3. Hopefully I'll be a baddie tomorrow and this can work out.

Ooh, yay. I get to vote you again.

[Marmot]

Actually, I'm starting to get a hankering for some fried calamari.

*Looks at ninjablooops

[nijuukyugou]

Actually, I'm starting to get a hankering for some fried calamari.

*Looks at ninjablooops

[Bass_the_Clever]

voted 4.

[Marmot]

Actually, I'm starting to get a hankering for some fried calamari.

*Looks at ninjablooops

Don't be alarmed! I won't eat your fourth tentacle.

[FZ.]

No lynch, ha? What was exactly the state of votes at deadline? Was there a tie before Epi voted himself, or did LC have more votes?

[FZ.]

I just want to address the info dumping issue. The only thing that I said that could be considered as something of the sort is saying that Epi wasn't on my team. Had I just said that the probability of him being a baddie was higher for me because he wasn't a Donner, and then voted for him, would you not know he's not on my team?
The only way people would vote for someone on their team, is if they were baddies and then they'd probably move that vote before the actual deadline. So I am now convinced I didn't info dump, and I take my apology back.
And people voting for those who allegedly info dumped are not looking very civvie like in my eyes. *eyes* llama

[Marmot]

I just want to address the info dumping issue. The only thing that I said that could be considered as something of the sort is saying that Epi wasn't on my team. Had I just said that the probability of him being a baddie was higher for me because he wasn't a Donner, and then voted for him, would you not know he's not on my team?
The only way people would vote for someone on their team, is if they were baddies and then they'd probably move that vote before the actual deadline. So I am now convinced I didn't info dump, and I take my apology back.
And people voting for those who allegedly info dumped are not looking very civvie like in my eyes. *eyes* llama

The rules indicate that normal mafia rules apply. Role-outing is always against the rules, but some hosts don't state that infodumping is against the rules (ie. see GoC rules), so it is unclear if that is considered normal mafia rules or not.

So to solve that problem, Roxy, is infodumping permitted?

[thellama73]

I just want to address the info dumping issue. The only thing that I said that could be considered as something of the sort is saying that Epi wasn't on my team. Had I just said that the probability of him being a baddie was higher for me because he wasn't a Donner, and then voted for him, would you not know he's not on my team?
The only way people would vote for someone on their team, is if they were baddies and then they'd probably move that vote before the actual deadline. So I am now convinced I didn't info dump, and I take my apology back.
And people voting for those who allegedly info dumped are not looking very civvie like in my eyes. *eyes* llama

You don't scare me.

[S~V~S]

She kinda scares me a bit....