[WOLF WIN] Syn's Top Songs of September Mafia

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

For those finding Long Con towny, I ask why? I'm not seeing any solving or even questioning happening at all

Explain to me the wolf strategy of coming in and trying to kill me off for previous games day 1

How does that benefit wolves at all especially since if he succeeded he'd kill a town

I mean, it's a page 1 vote based off meta...it's like the easiest thing to hide behind as a W, and votes come & go

It's a page 1 policy kill based on an idea that I'm a danger to town and it's gonna kill a town if followed

Wolves don't do that what's the gameplan?

Oops but oh well Abi sux like what's the play

Stop it, I did not say that

I was talking about LC there like what's he gonna say when I flip town

Not you

Ahhhh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood

Nah i didn't explain it will

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Well*

Falcon is my strongest town

[DrWilgy]

Dunya's read on LC is definitely one of the reads of all time.

BUT Dunya's content is good and they've quickly accelerated us. I think I agree with the TRs.

LC I'm indifferent to. The policy is fine, but I'm concerned that Dunya, SVS, AND Lime all TR'd it lol.

Can you expand on this because I fail to understand what u are saying here, like u shade Dunya's read, express none on LC, and finally are concerned because SVS, Dunyan and Lime's TR (I am left on my own corner but anyway lol).

So what's up? u think there are wolves in there TMIing LC? You think LC is a wolf? You think one of them (us :curtain:) is a wolf?


Gimme more pls

Shade? not shade; explaining that it is in fact a read and it's nothing beyond that? yes. It wasn't good nor bad, but a very personal read that I have little way of gauging or interacting with.

What is there to express on LC. LC's vote was policy, not even a read.

Concerned? Yes I was, too many were racing to give LC a tr. When parsed it just feels like spew though.

I think I was quite clear in advocating LC has to be town due to spew. If one of the players saying LC is town is wolf, it's because they are TMI-ing. If none of the players saying LC is town is wolf, it's because there is good enough reason for multiple town to have this read.

[DrWilgy]

MMMM

1 in LC, Dunya, SVS, Lime.

ok fine lol

but like u are TRing them too?

what makes you think I'm TRing SVS or Lime?

[Lime Coke]

Abigail prolly town but idk where to go after that.

[Lime Coke]

I feel like I'd rather drop the LC townread just because of the stuff with Abbi.

Dunya could be just correct on SVS and that was where I was wrong but yeah.

[DrWilgy]

Wow, other people here at the same time I am.

SVS's posts are kinda double dippy ish.
SVS double dip'd on falc's questions to LC
SVS TR'd LC in very strong likeness to Dunya

If this is what you took from my posts, not sure what to say. You should know better. I (or any person) can see both sides of a story. Balancing both sides is a good way to make up ones mind.

Last night when I went to bed, Falcon was my top town. Having reread and slept on it, it may be LC. Still TR Falcon, I generally don't think of him as a baddie who comes in with strong feels. I don't see Falcon poking someone who would poke back, unless they were teammates, and I don't think LC is bad. There is no profit for a bad LC in making his own vote if he's bad. I think he believes what he says, and when you're bad you want people you perceive to be chaos civvies in the thread. *Disclaimer* these are my thoughts about LC, not anyone else.

Quick question out of the blue for @falcon45ca and @Roxy ; have you two ever been bad teammates together?

I don't think Falcon is explicitly town yet, and still desire to see the signature pin point t thinking falcon. However, getting a clear on Falcon by this means has been more prone to failure lately.

I have seen W falcon make commentary against those who would bulwark so I don't necessarily agree with your tr.

I also slept on my read of you and no longer agree with what I stated previously. I do think that there was somewhat of an echo of Falc questioned LC, then you questioned LC. Dunya TR'd LC and then you TR'd LC. However, your contrary argument about Falc does show town thinking and I can at least believe you believe it.

[DrWilgy]

Dunya's read on LC is definitely one of the reads of all time.

BUT Dunya's content is good and they've quickly accelerated us. I think I agree with the TRs.

my read on lc is one of the reads of all time? :P what does that mean.

i like wilgy coming in and giving an opinion on svs quickly.

That your read on LC had very little meaning or impact on me as it was so personal lol. When I first read it I was internally like 'well this is kinda useless to me' which lead to my commentary.

I agree with you that LC is probably town, but how we both got there is very different.

[DrWilgy]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

[DrWilgy]

IF 5 players have all given LC a tr this early.

1. Can all of them be blatantly incorrect if town?

2. Are there wolves spewing LC town?

3. IS LC a wolf with one of the 5 giving T equity?

How strong are these TR's? Imma look

Strong enough to warrant spew analysis I think. Most, I guess exception LPP and Lime were quite concise.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy how and why did you sort your grouping around LC and people TRing him?

what do you mean? what grouping? town reading LC is a y/n parameter?

You, Dunya, SVS, Lime all provided a town read on the slot. (I'm only noticing now I miscounted 5 when it was 4 though last night, this is probably still enough for a spew argument, but my read is abit less concrete now)

[Lime Coke]

Actually Abbi since when do you ever make tmi reads from me usually you never do that.

[Lime Coke]

I feel like I'm gonna be invisible this game so that'll be fun.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Abigail prolly town but idk where to go after that.

Why?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

[Lime Coke]

Bleh doing this while lacking sleep is a bad idea.

I feel like I need to do something though idk what I might just follow.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Actually Abbi since when do you ever make tmi reads from me usually you never do that.

I mean since you town read someone for reasons I thought looked pretty weak

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I feel like I'm gonna be invisible this game so that'll be fun.

Not to me uwu

[Lime Coke]

For me personally the LC read was based on just me thinking pushing a policy vote usually means town... but the fact that he's been missing since then doesn't help anything.

[DrWilgy]

what annoys me is that SVSs read on Falcon is meta based which will require work to check out. I might reread both of them soon and maybe a wolf game from falcon if I can squizze it before EOD.

Does this not apply to both SVS and Dunya's read of LC? Why specifically bring up SVS re Falc on the meta matter?

[Roxy]

actually it may strenghten the read falcon, because like, I don't know him, but what w!LC is doing in that world? Is he that bold to play like that and dgas about the thread?

yes LongCon is that f'n bold.

ok lol. hmm

Can u expand on dunya?

"dunya felt like a fence rider without trying to appear like a fence rider. Maybe trying too hard---idk."

what gave you that impression?

also Lime? were you speaking about him agreeing with me?

She was throwing out tons of town leans even with SVS which changed into a baddie read and inspired a vote. They even used this line to help them form their read of SVS:

i have never played with svs as far as my memory serves me, but her reluctance to have a scum lean makes me lean she's not town actually, it's so much easier for mafia to get good vibes from townies and people for genuine reasons so i always think that's a red flag. defending people for seeing good in them because it's easier to spew people town when you know they're town.

hmm.

So it was ok for dunya to throw town reads out but NOT ok for SVS to do so. Maybe dunya put a red flag on themselves? idk.........

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

i can't shake the feeling svs has tmi on falcon

I don't know if I agree with this one. You stated previously a reluctance to wr falc, but why is it a reluctance when SVS stated their reason for finding Falc towny?

finding someone towny is not reluctance.

[Roxy]

as for lime coke @Le petit poussin yes - you said you hadn't done anything to deserve a town read then lime just basically agreed with you.

[DrWilgy]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

[DrWilgy]

Anyways i have some concern with the Dunya town read based on post count and solving because like maybe their town core is pure i dunno but I'd like to see a thought process it's very easy for wolves to go town town town when they aren't explained even slightly and tbh my sarcasm i expected to be met with some explanation but it wasn't

I don't even think Dunya is wolf but I think LCs explanation is uh not good and possibly tmi

Yeah, this is in line with my commentary on the read. It's very nothingburger.

I did appreciate dunya jumping in and it seemingly was the cause for us to get through RVS though and I can't help but feel that's of worth.

[DrWilgy]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

No, I didn't understand them,

I did understand that there were too many too early though. I don't feel like that normally happens without explanation and the explanation feels like spew.

BUT with lime rescinding and me realizing I've miscounted, I'm less sure now.

[Lime Coke]

as for lime coke @Le petit poussin yes - you said you hadn't done anything to deserve a town read then lime just basically agreed with you.

I literally said after that she did slightly after?

[DrWilgy]

I feel like there was alot of 'well this person exists so TR' and Roxy coming in and saying otherwise for most feels good. Detracts from it being player salad.

[DrWilgy]

I don't think I'll be voting in Dunya, Roxy, or LC.

I can't tell what I think of Lime's recent posting. Alot of green into reconsiderations, BUT said reconsiderations only occurred after someone else prompted it. If Lime feels invisible, what can I do to enable them?

[Roxy]

as for lime coke @Le petit poussin yes - you said you hadn't done anything to deserve a town read then lime just basically agreed with you.

I literally said after that she did slightly after?

No it was before. You did your green colored list first then you listed the 3 lowest posters (including me) as your POE. Then lpp questioned you about the reads and you doubled down. So no elaboration (reasons) just doubling down. Something that will always make my eyebrow arch.

[Roxy]

I don't think I'll be voting in Dunya, Roxy, or LC.

I can't tell what I think of Lime's recent posting. Alot of green into reconsiderations, BUT said reconsiderations only occurred after someone else prompted it. If Lime feels invisible, what can I do to enable them?

Somehow I am being weirded out bc you are not baddie reading me. Just throwing this out for total honesty.

[DrWilgy]

Bleh, maybe the spew read on LC was incorrect. The more I think on it, giving that feels worse.

PA I like the likeness on reading into Dunya's TR.

LPP I think I'm the most null on? The echo of Dunya's read on LC is bad, but they went back to it explaining it came from the boldness of a policy doesn't feel like it'd come from wolf, which I can believe. There's alot of questioning from this slot and not alot of answers.

Falc has been somewhat meh. I think Falc stating that SVS is playing too safe without much defining that is kinda yucky. I think I expect more thorough thought process RE SVS playing safe if this is t falc.

[DrWilgy]

I don't think I'll be voting in Dunya, Roxy, or LC.

I can't tell what I think of Lime's recent posting. Alot of green into reconsiderations, BUT said reconsiderations only occurred after someone else prompted it. If Lime feels invisible, what can I do to enable them?

Somehow I am being weirded out bc you are not baddie reading me. Just throwing this out for total honesty.

I've decided we can't read each other.

I've decided that pretty much anyone being contrary in this gamestate is probably a good thing.

Does W Roxy try to crack that door open? idk, but I like it.

[DrWilgy]

@Long Con wya?

[DrWilgy]

Just off the top of my head:
I don't think Dunya/SVS are W/W
I don't think Dunya/LC are W/W
I don't think Dunya/PA are W/W
I don't think LC/Abigail are W/W the bit lasted too long
I don't think LC/LPP are W/W

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Falc] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

I think I'm at (with the order mattering until orange)
Roxy
Dunya
LC
PA
SVS
LPP
Falc
Lime

[S~V~S]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

i can't shake the feeling svs has tmi on falcon

Nope, I just don’t associate straight to on topic with Falcon.

I tin foiled a bit; usually when he and Roxy play they spam each other with videos, and he did not do so. It’s why I asked if they had ever been bad together; I would have looked to see if they had done that but they say they haven’t.

That aside imo bad Falcon pads his posts more.

@Roxy based on previous games with LC, he has expressed himself re Abigail; it’s his place to discuss that imo. But I see bad LC running with it rather than calling it out. That’s all I’ll say about that, and if you don’t buy it, sorry, it is what it is.

I wish he would come back tbh.

Work is a bear today, not 100% if/when I’ll be able to be caught up.

So imma [VOTE: LPP] aubergine at this time. LPP feels a bit like they’re coat tailing, maybe being a bit too agreeable. I’m open to changing it if I come back and something evolves. This is just where I am now and I want to get something out there in case I can’t get back since I have a webinar in 10 minutes.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

Well yanno cause someone was saying I'm a danger to town ergo I'm bad and I must be policied for it which is just lame and anti town and someone should have and could have said this is a pretty bad anti town idea

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

No, I didn't understand them,

I did understand that there were too many too early though. I don't feel like that normally happens without explanation and the explanation feels like spew.

BUT with lime rescinding and me realizing I've miscounted, I'm less sure now.

Yes but you see how fmpov if the reads are correct your trying to wedge a knife into correct reads which is kinda scummy potentially

[DrWilgy]

That aside imo bad Falcon pads his posts more.

Don't think this is true. This a feel or we have history implying so?

[DrWilgy]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

Well yanno cause someone was saying I'm a danger to town ergo I'm bad and I must be policied for it which is just lame and anti town and someone should have and could have said this is a pretty bad anti town idea

I don't think it becomes anti-town until there's more data.

Now that there is more data I'd hope for LC to come back.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

Well yanno cause someone was saying I'm a danger to town ergo I'm bad and I must be policied for it which is just lame and anti town and someone should have and could have said this is a pretty bad anti town idea

I don't think it becomes anti-town until there's more data.

Now that there is more data I'd hope for LC to come back.

How is policy lynch Abbi she's a liability ever not anti town

[DrWilgy]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

No, I didn't understand them,

I did understand that there were too many too early though. I don't feel like that normally happens without explanation and the explanation feels like spew.

BUT with lime rescinding and me realizing I've miscounted, I'm less sure now.

Yes but you see how fmpov if the reads are correct your trying to wedge a knife into correct reads which is kinda scummy potentially

not really? perhaps I'm misunderstanding the concept of 'wedge a knife into' because I read that as you state I'm trying to kill correct reads which would be wolfy.

Wouldn't by stating the mass TR's lead to spew indicate that I'm in fact giving another reason to TR and am doing the opposite of killing?

[DrWilgy]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

Well yanno cause someone was saying I'm a danger to town ergo I'm bad and I must be policied for it which is just lame and anti town and someone should have and could have said this is a pretty bad anti town idea

I don't think it becomes anti-town until there's more data.

Now that there is more data I'd hope for LC to come back.

How is policy lynch Abbi she's a liability ever not anti town

because when it happened there were 14 posts.

Where any reason is as good as the next?

[S~V~S]

That aside imo bad Falcon pads his posts more.

Don't think this is true. This a feel or we have history implying so?

Not “pad” per se; I can’t find the words to describe it. He doesn’t make more posts, the last wolf game I saw he made almost none, but he still sent the kills in lol.

I mean more like almost totally off topic, like when she does post he doesn’t say much.

The contradiction here is the lack of video spam which is nai for him.

I can’t explain it it’s a feel I guess. Anyhow gotta meeting maybe bbl maybe not!

[S~V~S]

He not she and I’ll be pissed if he’s bad ha ha

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

wolves are Lime and SVS. Goodnight.

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

No, I didn't understand them,

I did understand that there were too many too early though. I don't feel like that normally happens without explanation and the explanation feels like spew.

BUT with lime rescinding and me realizing I've miscounted, I'm less sure now.

Yes but you see how fmpov if the reads are correct your trying to wedge a knife into correct reads which is kinda scummy potentially

not really? perhaps I'm misunderstanding the concept of 'wedge a knife into' because I read that as you state I'm trying to kill correct reads which would be wolfy.

Wouldn't by stating the mass TR's lead to spew indicate that I'm in fact giving another reason to TR and am doing the opposite of killing?

If you think there's to many to quickly than you think wolves either just decided to join that bandwagon when there's push back and it was easy to push LC so why?

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy jumpingright into the game with a bunch of content feels hella towny especially for him

But Wilgy pushing a knife into the town reads on LC is a tad concerning

Town lean though

As in you're concerned that I've given another reason to clear LC?

I'm concerned cause unless I'm dumb you said you didn't really understand the town reads there

No, I didn't understand them,

I did understand that there were too many too early though. I don't feel like that normally happens without explanation and the explanation feels like spew.

BUT with lime rescinding and me realizing I've miscounted, I'm less sure now.

Yes but you see how fmpov if the reads are correct your trying to wedge a knife into correct reads which is kinda scummy potentially

not really? perhaps I'm misunderstanding the concept of 'wedge a knife into' because I read that as you state I'm trying to kill correct reads which would be wolfy.

Wouldn't by stating the mass TR's lead to spew indicate that I'm in fact giving another reason to TR and am doing the opposite of killing?

If you think there's to many to quickly than you think wolves either just decided to join that bandwagon when there's push back and it was easy to push LC so why?

I think wolves almost inherently opt for pockets rather than opposition early. No reason TO push back assuming you are T. There was also more agreement advocated than opposition early even between just Dunya and Falc, so why shake the boat?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You know i think what really bothers me is that not a single person defended me at all until i came in with my little attitude

Like everyone just went Yeah okay policy Abbi that's fine

Like sure lc is town that's cool but kinda figured someone would say but killing Abbi for a policy is pretty bad

Was there a reason to defend you? I think it was blantant that LC was acting on policy, but what is there to defend against that?

Well yanno cause someone was saying I'm a danger to town ergo I'm bad and I must be policied for it which is just lame and anti town and someone should have and could have said this is a pretty bad anti town idea

I don't think it becomes anti-town until there's more data.

Now that there is more data I'd hope for LC to come back.

How is policy lynch Abbi she's a liability ever not anti town

because when it happened there were 14 posts.

Where any reason is as good as the next?

Whatever tbh

If someone is doing something actively bad it should be called out