Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Le petit poussin]

fwiw DDL, neither my cat nor I are townreading you rn (not that I am sussing you either, but u seem to be carried away there lol).

Spoiler: show

I have no cat

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I think I just convinced myself to revote Lime.

[VOTE: Lime] aubergine

DId you make a case, if so, can you link it to me or tl,dr it to me really quick (will try to iso you before EOD but it's kid time for the next hour and half or so it might have to wait till after that)?

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[Dragon D. Luffy]

I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from her, and I thought it made sense, so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sorry, post broke.

Roxy, but I'm finding myself doubting what I was suspecting before.

Oh that.

Probably my fault for explaining it properly, but the sentence should have been written like that if I had.

I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from her, and I thought it made sense, so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@
Le petit poussin

Sorry, posted the wrong link:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 5#p1123795

I was trying to catch up while talking with multiple people at once.

[dunya]

I don’t see anything bad in Roxy’s iso besides calling Lime “LC.”

Like there’s a significant overreaction to her being like “Btw these 3 players haven’t posted” and pinging Epi to ask what happens if they don’t post at all today.

Feels bad from Lime. I don’t remember who else reacted to it even though I just read it.

me. i did. i started it and lime agreed with me.

[Spacedaisy]

Sorry, post broke.

Roxy, but I'm finding myself doubting what I was suspecting before.

Oh that.

Probably my fault for explaining it properly, but the sentence should have been written like that if I had.

I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from her, and I thought it made sense, so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I literally was writing a post to say I didn't understand when I realized I had misunderstood something you were saying. I thought you were saying they gave an angle-shooty reason Roxy was bad, but you were saying the opposite. I get it now. This pretty much eliminates my earlier suspicion. Thanks for your patience in explaining it to me.

[S~V~S]

Hey guys, I had a super busy weekend, and kinda forgot about this.

I will start reading from my last post and answer @s when I come to them.

[dunya]

I have no strong feelings about this game. someone do something provocative

*does something you find provocative*

[Jibay]

lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

Ok i will stop talking about other games xD and thanks !

page 1 Syn feels like copypasting posts from his town games. Fight this brah

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

ok lettuce put thunal as town for now smh. gonna check syn/wisdom next.

@Nanook: walk me through your JB read?

>wholesome, adorable posting
>lost
>doesn't like to lie
>one post with reads

Idk not super confident or anything, just leans towards new player scum over new player town, but again not super confident and I'd like him to be town, so

Not gonna push it, just want cred in post

Thansk yeah for my first time it's a lot , i don't really know the people ( except Syn, SpaceDaisy, Dunya and le petit poussin) so my reading over other people is very innocent

Sometimes i feeling i'm here to be trown under the window and be the pastic toy of Napeleon

So for now i'm gonna folow Le petit Poussin and his vote

[VOTE: @Syn ] aubergine

Make it change my mind

[dunya]

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Actually, it usually has been in my experience. I just played a game where Lucchese self voted and gave up as mafia d1, and the game before that Pizza gave up and lolcatted after he was top wagon but it wasn’t set in stone and he flipped mafia.

I wasn’t sure Falcon was mafia and my thinking it was weird people didn’t think that post was outing was actually wondering if he was town and mafia had TMI so they didn’t treat it as outing. I thought it was a good guess Falcon was mafia and it upped his odds of being mafia quite a bit in my head, but it wasn’t a sure thing.

this seems overly wordy in a nervous way.

[S~V~S]

I took longer than I thought since kitty was so comfy, I hated to get him up.

I agree with everything here, except I’m not so gung-ho about SVS. She’s a very light scumread, but it’s very light. Could use more thoughts, as it’s a bit blendy.
And wisdom is someone I haven’t made my mind up yet on. I probably have a bit of a lingering bias from D1 coloring my judgment

Im glad you said this. This is the longest I think you've ever went before you started coming for me, i was beginning to get worried about you.

OK, I have this habit of getting a fairly strong gut read, and generally I stick with it, even if sometimes people view that as a bad thing (Thunal said something before about me pushing something through). Sometimes that comes across as tunnelling. I'm wrong sometimes (sorry @Jackofhearts2005) but I reread today and I still think I'm right about Wisdom. [VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

Other thoughts.

LPP; I see some suspish forming. The last game I played with them, they were super active, and they were participating, involved and impressively manipulative and played such a perfect ... baddie game. The person i see here is not that person, I don't see any person at all since they haven't posted, although it doesn't preclude TPP from being bad. But other than quiet, meh. They haven't posted even one time. That's a back burner.

People I feel as safe trusting as I would do in a Mafia game~

DDL, Syn, probs Dunya I think are town. I'd be surprised if not.

People I might put in that category, but will never fully "trust" ever again~

Thunal, Scotty , Roxy

Thunal has had a few moments of what felt like skillful web weaving that she does when bad so well, but nothing out of her town vibe. Scotty came in strong, was on some of the same pages as me, and didn't accuse me once, so like I said ^^ I was beginning to worry about him. Especially when he came in today and talked himself into and out of sussing Wisdom. But again, nothing town Scotty wouldn't do, and he eventually pointed a finger at me, which makes me feel better about him. Roxy; either I've gotten worse at reading her or she's gotten better at tricking me, or both. Her posts sound sincere.

Null (a big group i hope to see pared down by isoing)~

**Mainly a bit towny side of null~Daisy and Jack a tad towny. That's prolly my fault not theirs. I'm looking at things I sus rather than those that i don't.

**Null~ LPP, Jibay and Nook. Jibay is a nub, bantered some, no real content, LPP no content at all, Nook posted a few posts like "ha ha I'm playing mafia". Also Lime; he feels more towny than not to me, but in recent games i read him that way, and he was bad. I don't think my opinion of him has much value, tbh.

People i could vote for~

Wisdom, I already voted for them. Motobot, I didn't like his vote, he had zero to say about Rox before voting, he IS a young man, but not a kid and has played before. Not sure if I'm believing his "I'm afraid to say the wrong thing" defense.

and finally "I DUNNO" LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

I don't think I've ever seen such a deep dive on a player that hasn't posted before lol

I appreciate the hesitance on me and no pocket. Like a true women's pants.

Can you expand on why you're so confident on Syn being town?

Also, did I miss you talking about Lime Coke? He was the leading wagon (I think he still is?) and not a word about him here is

I did miss some of it, I think, I didn't see it till after I posted this, I reposted a post from DDL I think (for some reason i see his avi and think he's Jack, not sure why) about Line and Dunya potentially being teamed.

I did mention him, I said ^^ highlighted, and it's the Gods honest truth. My tell for him is pissiness, and if he's not pissy, I dunno. Like i siad, my opinion on him is worthless, and I'm not likely to vote for him on my own opinion, if I vote him AND he's not being pissy, I'm relying on other peoples cases/thoughts.

[S~V~S]

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

That's how it felt to me, "blame". It freaked me out a bit, hence "terrifying". Hyperbole language, perhaps, but it is how it made me feel.

[S~V~S]

Oh I just realized Severance is a show.

also killed dumbledore

oops, SVS said no spoilers. Sorry SVS

At work, Spotify is blocked but for some weird reason YouTube isn't, so I listen to music on that. But it also has tons, like tons, of "SPOILER BREAKDOWN OF EPISODE X YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE IT" videos. Ugh. So after actively avoiding all this all day, I had no choice but to watch it ASAP after checking to see who died. And thanks, but I already knew about

Spoiler: show

Dumbledore

then you'll love the fact that in Episode 2 of this season

Spoiler: show

lol it hasn't aired. But I did eat at an italian restaurant a couple months ago sitting next to John Tortutto (the guy that plays Irving)

It aired here? And SO JEALOUS!! A friend of mine is friends with his sister, Aida (she was in the Sopranos), and I've met her several times, but not him.

[S~V~S]

Also @Scotty re syn, just his general vibe, and I don't know that I see bad him making that vote he made D1. It drew attention, as did his convo with DDL. Syn can have a way of participating and being active without big moves, if that makes sense.

Although there was something on my mind, but I can't recall what it was, on Friday night.

[dunya]

I’m a little bit sus of Wisdom’s response that town make those sort of posts all the time because at least on MU that’s not been my experience. @Wisdom could you please link a time you played where a town claimed mafia and gave up?

like, im sorry but again this feels a bit disgenuine too... you;'ve never seen a townie who was getting hammered be all salty and say "yep you got me?" and disappeared? could also be w/w distancing with this tbh, or giving wisdom an opportunity to pull receipts and not be sussed

[Jibay]

My previous post

Adding a GiF for Context

[GIF]https://media1.tenor.com/m/Tk5gEL5eHnAA ... -throw.gif [/GIF]

[S~V~S]

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

I didn't say you made a big case, i said you (more than once) used my one line about asking about no posters being out of character for Rox to justify your vote. You acted like *I* had made a big case. It made me feel like i was being set up for some blame should Rox get yeeted. I don't necessarily still think that, but at the time it freaked me out, LC. It worried me. And "terru=ifying" was my word choice to express how it made me feel.

[Le petit poussin]

lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

Ok i will stop talking about other games xD and thanks !

page 1 Syn feels like copypasting posts from his town games. Fight this brah

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

ok lettuce put thunal as town for now smh. gonna check syn/wisdom next.

@Nanook: walk me through your JB read?

>wholesome, adorable posting
>lost
>doesn't like to lie
>one post with reads

Idk not super confident or anything, just leans towards new player scum over new player town, but again not super confident and I'd like him to be town, so

Not gonna push it, just want cred in post

Thansk yeah for my first time it's a lot , i don't really know the people ( except Syn, SpaceDaisy, Dunya and le petit poussin) so my reading over other people is very innocent

Sometimes i feeling i'm here to be trown under the window and be the pastic toy of Napeleon

So for now i'm gonna folow Le petit Poussin and his vote

[VOTE: @Syn ] aubergine

Make it change my mind

why do you care about my role?
Do you have any read on your own?

(DDL, I read your case, will post about it after dinner if it's relevant)

[Jibay]

My previous post

Adding a GiF for Context

[GIF]https://media1.tenor.com/m/Tk5gEL5eHnAA ... -throw.gif [/GIF]

Sorry i ask Dunya how to post a GIF ^^'

[S~V~S]

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

I think SVS made a typo-

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

I think she meant 'blame his Roxy vote on me like >I< made a big case'

^^^^^^ sorry fast typing, "a" should have been "I".

I hope you guys don't keep talking about me or I'll never get caught up.

[Le petit poussin]

use JB

[Le petit poussin]

gosh, use the img tag, not the gif one JB

[Thunal33]

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Actually, it usually has been in my experience. I just played a game where Lucchese self voted and gave up as mafia d1, and the game before that Pizza gave up and lolcatted after he was top wagon but it wasn’t set in stone and he flipped mafia.

I wasn’t sure Falcon was mafia and my thinking it was weird people didn’t think that post was outing was actually wondering if he was town and mafia had TMI so they didn’t treat it as outing. I thought it was a good guess Falcon was mafia and it upped his odds of being mafia quite a bit in my head, but it wasn’t a sure thing.

this seems overly wordy in a nervous way.

You're not wrong. I'm just town doing that. I dislike being pushed and having to defend myself as both alignments.

I’m a little bit sus of Wisdom’s response that town make those sort of posts all the time because at least on MU that’s not been my experience. @Wisdom could you please link a time you played where a town claimed mafia and gave up?

like, im sorry but again this feels a bit disgenuine too... you;'ve never seen a townie who was getting hammered be all salty and say "yep you got me?" and disappeared? could also be w/w distancing with this tbh, or giving wisdom an opportunity to pull receipts and not be sussed

You probably didn't read my later posts yet, but I just saw mafia give up the last two games I played. I even got vigged partly for not finding a "free" mafia that gave up the last game I played so my belief Falcon was mafia was probably an overcorrection to that. I have seen it from town in my life, but less often than from mafia.

[dunya]

@dunya You usually have a good track record on Spacedaisy iirc, what's your take there?

GTH town i feel like she's inquisitive and asking and following up on her suspicions without wandering aimlessly everywhrere. I'm missing 4 pages still, as i read the most current and oldest so pending those 4 pages.

[dunya]

Then she questions Lime about his falcon suspicion, but when he replies, she moves on to collaborate with Lime on getting falcon killed.

collaborate with lime on getting falcon killed? that's pretty reaching. i saw that lime had never mentioned falcon before saying he could vote there so i called him out on it, and i was catching up on the thread and since falcon was brought up........i read his iso and reached my own conclusion.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I just realized a reason Jack maybe isn't mafia and it might be dumb to clear someone for but this instance it might work.

[VOTE: motobot] aubergine

Just go here fuck it.

If you don't say so anyway, I wanna know what the reason was at the end of the game.

[dunya]

It's 6 min left, right?
Where is everyone? (how many in the PL are america time-zoned?)

VOTE##Motobot
I. DON'T. KNOW.

I feel like people here are town which implies wolves are chilling due to Falcon being town >_>

Like this progression sort of came out of nowhere.

In thread maybe
I didn't like motobot's posts and had him in bottom tier in my read list

About that, I often post little in any game I play, and when I do post I either put nothing on the table, I cause confusion on what I mean, or I end up sounding phoney.
If I don't post much I most likely won't say something wrong.

i love this strategy, i will try it in my next game

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also I'm somewhat interested on Lime's statement that Thunal lied about the two's experience playing together in other games.

This is the kinda shit I just ignore because does it really make sense for wolf Thunal to lie about her experience with townie Lime?

Like what is that supposed to accomplish?

Unless it's something as straightforward as "Trust me, guys, every time Player X does Thing Y, they are mafia" and it would benefit the wolves to get a yeet on Player X even at the expense of one of their own being a top yeet target the next day (ie it's lylo), I don't tend to think we're looking at anything but a misremembering/different pov and that's NAI.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dunya, where's your head at? Who do you want dead? Who is your top town?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Then she questions Lime about his falcon suspicion, but when he replies, she moves on to collaborate with Lime on getting falcon killed.

collaborate with lime on getting falcon killed? that's pretty reaching. i saw that lime had never mentioned falcon before saying he could vote there so i called him out on it, and i was catching up on the thread and since falcon was brought up........i read his iso and reached my own conclusion.

Possibly reaching, I dunno. I just don't like how it looks like cooperation, especially coming from two people who are softly attacking each other but not too much.

[Jackofhearts2005]

And his vote is on Jack, which is as much of a vanity wagon as ddl would be! Why didn't he vote ddl, if he believes it so much, or vote for me, who is at least a little less of a vanity wagon?

I can't really think of a reason for this as either alignment. It's "weird."

[S~V~S]

Tina

Tina, you fat lard, come get some ham!

Tina doesn’t appreciate your disrespectful tone. Tina will break the fence one Day and trample to death one person if she chooses.

This is a fun role. Would be cool if it got out.

This is a good question. As I read, I'm revising my world view a bit. I really really like that post of DDLs. I saw Thunals vote and it surprised me, so i went out of order to look it up. I've seen her weave defensive posts, but I don't recall anything this blatant as what she's saying about Lime, when she's bad. Did she defend you or so directly in Lasso? I think of her as more subtle?

Spoiler: show

ngl that turnaround from Thunal on Lime Coke is something.

for record, her last post before I entered the thread.

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

Is this solely about process, or do you agree with Nanook's conclusions?

I think Lime Coke has a good chance of being mafia and I’m not sure on Wisdom anymore. She had some stuff I thought was towny on d1 but I thought her moving off Falcon because of DADV was off.

then I post LC is town and:

Never mind, Lime Coke is town. I’m going to be spending some time on figuring out a different vote.

hmmm (ngl I just witnessed Wisdom doing it as town in an offsite game but it still weirds me out lolol)

It’s not you posting Lime Coke was town at all, it’s because of Lime Coke’s recent posts and defense. I have played a lot of games with him.

So I would either resolve the other wagon, or go with one of Wisdom or Dunya because if Wisdom IS bad, I think Dunya could be, too. That's "now", this minute. I still have 3 pages to go. Also Dunya was potentially down as Limes partner in DDls post. Sh there are two, to me, valid worlds where she could be bad (I feel like Abigail, with all this talk of 'world views' lol).

The person i find towniest right now is Thunal. Her worldview keeps evolving and moving, and somewhat choppily. She'd be smoother if she was bad imo. She did a pretty hard volte face re Wisdom, which I don't see her doing if bad. But your insight here would be helpful to me re that.

This is where Dunya is discussing Wisdom with Thunal. If I ever get caught up, I want to read Dunya, Wisdom, Thunal, DDL. But that won't happen ha ha

Spoiler: show

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Actually, it usually has been in my experience. I just played a game where Lucchese self voted and gave up as mafia d1, and the game before that Pizza gave up and lolcatted after he was top wagon but it wasn’t set in stone and he flipped mafia.

I wasn’t sure Falcon was mafia and my thinking it was weird people didn’t think that post was outing was actually wondering if he was town and mafia had TMI so they didn’t treat it as outing. I thought it was a good guess Falcon was mafia and it upped his odds of being mafia quite a bit in my head, but it wasn’t a sure thing.

this seems overly wordy in a nervous way.

You're not wrong. I'm just town doing that. I dislike being pushed and having to defend myself as both alignments.

I’m a little bit sus of Wisdom’s response that town make those sort of posts all the time because at least on MU that’s not been my experience. @Wisdom could you please link a time you played where a town claimed mafia and gave up?

like, im sorry but again this feels a bit disgenuine too... you;'ve never seen a townie who was getting hammered be all salty and say "yep you got me?" and disappeared? could also be w/w distancing with this tbh, or giving wisdom an opportunity to pull receipts and not be sussed

You probably didn't read my later posts yet, but I just saw mafia give up the last two games I played. I even got vigged partly for not finding a "free" mafia that gave up the last game I played so my belief Falcon was mafia was probably an overcorrection to that. I have seen it from town in my life, but less often than from mafia.

And I think for now I'm trusting Thunal her and keeping my vote there.

[Long Con]

Lime Coke was bad last game and was lackluster and passionless to the point of nonparticipation, even up to getting voted out. Markedly different here; a spirited defense.

A spirited defense? What

Ya

[Long Con]

It's 6 min left, right?
Where is everyone? (how many in the PL are america time-zoned?)

VOTE##Motobot
I. DON'T. KNOW.

I feel like people here are town which implies wolves are chilling due to Falcon being town >_>

Like this progression sort of came out of nowhere.

In thread maybe
I didn't like motobot's posts and had him in bottom tier in my read list

About that, I often post little in any game I play, and when I do post I either put nothing on the table, I cause confusion on what I mean, or I end up sounding phoney.
If I don't post much I most likely won't say something wrong.

I had motobot as a very slight GTH town but then I saw this post. Does anyone who’s played with motobot know if he’s worried about saying something wrong in his town games? Because if not imo that’s a wolfy sentiment to have.

There isn't a TON of data on that front, but I think you could be on to something there.

[Long Con]

why is it weirding you out Scotty?

It feels like you just came into my High School’s 20 year reunion and walked right up to Alison Strimbley, my ex, and started chatting as if yall were best friends. But you’ve never met, and you didn’t even go to this school. But y’all keep the charade going for a couple hours being cordial because everyone’s lonely

Now I'm weirded out.

[Long Con]

I feel like I'm reading a different thread and idk if it's because you're mafia or because I haven't played a syndicate game in forever

Towny post.

[Long Con]

Ok I need to go, will be gone most day. I guess the general consensus is Lime Coke probably towny, except nook. Suit noted.

Fine with a vote for:
Long con
Syn
Wisdom
Jibay

Or if you want to be spicy,
Thunal

Salady.

[Thunal33]

Towns:
SVS
DDL
Lime Coke
Daisy

Townleans:
Roxy
Scotty
Jack
Nanook
dunya

Nulls:
motobot
LPP
Jibay

PoE:
Syn
Long Con
Wisdom

[Long Con]

I’ve had vague bad feelings about Syn but I don’t think they’re worth a vote. They are worth a “Okay. Why Syn?”

I had a vague bad feeling about Syn when I questioned him on his "Explanatory Spacedaisy" thing, and it's enough to make me moderately supportive of this vote.

[Long Con]

gth Lime Coke is town lol. (it's just I find he hit the soft spot of ATEing - "omg my reads have sucked balls lately I've lost all my mojo" - just enough that I find it real. A bit more and I'd just vote him in oblivion but I kinda liked that string of posts)

That being said, it's still a pretty weak read so I am opening his ISO now that I have a bit of time.

Same tbh.

But the thing is, there is a good chance Lime is wolf and yet was still honest about his emotions there.

We need to normalize the idea that wolves can be honest.

Actually never mind, don't normalize that, it helps me win games as a wolf.

Honest?

[Thunal33]

Tina

Tina, you fat lard, come get some ham!

Tina doesn’t appreciate your disrespectful tone. Tina will break the fence one Day and trample to death one person if she chooses.

This is a fun role. Would be cool if it got out.

This is a good question. As I read, I'm revising my world view a bit. I really really like that post of DDLs. I saw Thunals vote and it surprised me, so i went out of order to look it up. I've seen her weave defensive posts, but I don't recall anything this blatant as what she's saying about Lime, when she's bad. Did she defend you or so directly in Lasso? I think of her as more subtle?

Spoiler: show

ngl that turnaround from Thunal on Lime Coke is something.

for record, her last post before I entered the thread.

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

Is this solely about process, or do you agree with Nanook's conclusions?

I think Lime Coke has a good chance of being mafia and I’m not sure on Wisdom anymore. She had some stuff I thought was towny on d1 but I thought her moving off Falcon because of DADV was off.

then I post LC is town and:

Never mind, Lime Coke is town. I’m going to be spending some time on figuring out a different vote.

hmmm (ngl I just witnessed Wisdom doing it as town in an offsite game but it still weirds me out lolol)

It’s not you posting Lime Coke was town at all, it’s because of Lime Coke’s recent posts and defense. I have played a lot of games with him.

So I would either resolve the other wagon, or go with one of Wisdom or Dunya because if Wisdom IS bad, I think Dunya could be, too. That's "now", this minute. I still have 3 pages to go. Also Dunya was potentially down as Limes partner in DDls post. Sh there are two, to me, valid worlds where she could be bad (I feel like Abigail, with all this talk of 'world views' lol).

The person i find towniest right now is Thunal. Her worldview keeps evolving and moving, and somewhat choppily. She'd be smoother if she was bad imo. She did a pretty hard volte face re Wisdom, which I don't see her doing if bad. But your insight here would be helpful to me re that.

This is where Dunya is discussing Wisdom with Thunal. If I ever get caught up, I want to read Dunya, Wisdom, Thunal, DDL. But that won't happen ha ha

Spoiler: show

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Actually, it usually has been in my experience. I just played a game where Lucchese self voted and gave up as mafia d1, and the game before that Pizza gave up and lolcatted after he was top wagon but it wasn’t set in stone and he flipped mafia.

I wasn’t sure Falcon was mafia and my thinking it was weird people didn’t think that post was outing was actually wondering if he was town and mafia had TMI so they didn’t treat it as outing. I thought it was a good guess Falcon was mafia and it upped his odds of being mafia quite a bit in my head, but it wasn’t a sure thing.

this seems overly wordy in a nervous way.

You're not wrong. I'm just town doing that. I dislike being pushed and having to defend myself as both alignments.

I’m a little bit sus of Wisdom’s response that town make those sort of posts all the time because at least on MU that’s not been my experience. @Wisdom could you please link a time you played where a town claimed mafia and gave up?

like, im sorry but again this feels a bit disgenuine too... you;'ve never seen a townie who was getting hammered be all salty and say "yep you got me?" and disappeared? could also be w/w distancing with this tbh, or giving wisdom an opportunity to pull receipts and not be sussed

You probably didn't read my later posts yet, but I just saw mafia give up the last two games I played. I even got vigged partly for not finding a "free" mafia that gave up the last game I played so my belief Falcon was mafia was probably an overcorrection to that. I have seen it from town in my life, but less often than from mafia.

And I think for now I'm trusting Thunal her and keeping my vote there.

The thing is I have been second guessing my Wisdom vote lol and now that I've looked at her ISO again I think I'll move off. One thing I came back to was her thinking she might have become a more manipulative person when you accused her of being manipulative. If she were mafia and was trying to be manipulative, would she really have that moment of introspection and wonder if she changed as a person?

[Thunal33]

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

This sequence of posts about SVS is suspicious imo. LC had a big reaction to SVS's accusation about his Roxy vote and called it insane, but didn't actually move to suspecting her naturally. The "so maybe SVS's reaction to my post is suspicious" doesn't feel like a real thought, it feels like an add-on after the initial defensive reaction.

[S~V~S]

Very much whelmed with Long Con’s entrance into D2. My opinion was already blendy, and so far he’s feigned outrage at SVS using some choice words, try to get me on board of finding her suspicious for finding his behavior odd and not bothered to do more than that.

Current reads list as of mid day 2:

Town:
Space Daisy
DDL
moto

Townlean:
Syn
SVS
Roxy
Dunya

On the fence but ever so slightly town and need more digging:
Jack

Scumlean:
Thunal
Lime Coke
Le petit (until I hear more)
Jibay (until I hear more)
Nook (where are you)

Scumread:
Wisdom
Long Con

Hrm, now I really want to hear from you re Thunal. Your list is considerably different than mine, but you're more caught up.

I'm at~

Town~
Thunal
DDL
Daisy

Green Lean

Scotty (you always sound so reasonable to me, until you turn on me, so I always have a bit of wiggle room with you)
Syn
Roxy

3P Lean

LC, like i said, he feels neither fish nor fowl to me. I don't think he's actively bad.
Jack, cause he felt similar to LC to me. But i see he's one of the top posters now, and I haven't seem anything yet of his since i made my last list, I've been hopping around)

Null

Nook (I see he posted, but i haven't really read it yet)
Moto (I wanted to do what you said you did and go read other games, but didn't. You saying you did nulled him for me, I was red leaning him based on his vote previously)

Lime~ has his own line. Maybe Orange?

I see why some think he's bad, and i liked DDls theory quite a bit, and that was predicated on Lime being bad. But Thunal seems pretty adamant about him.

Reddish to Red

TPP~ I just read their posts. I think the vote for Syn sounds like a vote looking for an excuse.
Jibay seemed to follow TPPs vote too easily. Like at 12:50 Saturday, no Syn in the suspects:

Spoiler: show

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

24 hours later, with no Syn in between,

Spoiler: show

lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

Ok i will stop talking about other games xD and thanks !

page 1 Syn feels like copypasting posts from his town games. Fight this brah

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

ok lettuce put thunal as town for now smh. gonna check syn/wisdom next.

@Nanook: walk me through your JB read?

>wholesome, adorable posting
>lost
>doesn't like to lie
>one post with reads

Idk not super confident or anything, just leans towards new player scum over new player town, but again not super confident and I'd like him to be town, so

Not gonna push it, just want cred in post

Thansk yeah for my first time it's a lot , i don't really know the people ( except Syn, SpaceDaisy, Dunya and le petit poussin) so my reading over other people is very innocent

Sometimes i feeling i'm here to be trown under the window and be the pastic toy of Napeleon

So for now i'm gonna folow Le petit Poussin and his vote

[VOTE: @Syn ] aubergine

Make it change my mind

And Wisdom, who I have voted for and haven't decided to change it yet.

Will be here EOD, to move if warranted.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[S~V~S]

Tina

Tina, you fat lard, come get some ham!

Tina doesn’t appreciate your disrespectful tone. Tina will break the fence one Day and trample to death one person if she chooses.

This is a fun role. Would be cool if it got out.

This is a good question. As I read, I'm revising my world view a bit. I really really like that post of DDLs. I saw Thunals vote and it surprised me, so i went out of order to look it up. I've seen her weave defensive posts, but I don't recall anything this blatant as what she's saying about Lime, when she's bad. Did she defend you or so directly in Lasso? I think of her as more subtle?

Spoiler: show

ngl that turnaround from Thunal on Lime Coke is something.

for record, her last post before I entered the thread.

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

Is this solely about process, or do you agree with Nanook's conclusions?

I think Lime Coke has a good chance of being mafia and I’m not sure on Wisdom anymore. She had some stuff I thought was towny on d1 but I thought her moving off Falcon because of DADV was off.

then I post LC is town and:

Never mind, Lime Coke is town. I’m going to be spending some time on figuring out a different vote.

hmmm (ngl I just witnessed Wisdom doing it as town in an offsite game but it still weirds me out lolol)

It’s not you posting Lime Coke was town at all, it’s because of Lime Coke’s recent posts and defense. I have played a lot of games with him.

So I would either resolve the other wagon, or go with one of Wisdom or Dunya because if Wisdom IS bad, I think Dunya could be, too. That's "now", this minute. I still have 3 pages to go. Also Dunya was potentially down as Limes partner in DDls post. Sh there are two, to me, valid worlds where she could be bad (I feel like Abigail, with all this talk of 'world views' lol).

The person i find towniest right now is Thunal. Her worldview keeps evolving and moving, and somewhat choppily. She'd be smoother if she was bad imo. She did a pretty hard volte face re Wisdom, which I don't see her doing if bad. But your insight here would be helpful to me re that.

This is where Dunya is discussing Wisdom with Thunal. If I ever get caught up, I want to read Dunya, Wisdom, Thunal, DDL. But that won't happen ha ha

Spoiler: show

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Actually, it usually has been in my experience. I just played a game where Lucchese self voted and gave up as mafia d1, and the game before that Pizza gave up and lolcatted after he was top wagon but it wasn’t set in stone and he flipped mafia.

I wasn’t sure Falcon was mafia and my thinking it was weird people didn’t think that post was outing was actually wondering if he was town and mafia had TMI so they didn’t treat it as outing. I thought it was a good guess Falcon was mafia and it upped his odds of being mafia quite a bit in my head, but it wasn’t a sure thing.

this seems overly wordy in a nervous way.

You're not wrong. I'm just town doing that. I dislike being pushed and having to defend myself as both alignments.

I’m a little bit sus of Wisdom’s response that town make those sort of posts all the time because at least on MU that’s not been my experience. @Wisdom could you please link a time you played where a town claimed mafia and gave up?

like, im sorry but again this feels a bit disgenuine too... you;'ve never seen a townie who was getting hammered be all salty and say "yep you got me?" and disappeared? could also be w/w distancing with this tbh, or giving wisdom an opportunity to pull receipts and not be sussed

You probably didn't read my later posts yet, but I just saw mafia give up the last two games I played. I even got vigged partly for not finding a "free" mafia that gave up the last game I played so my belief Falcon was mafia was probably an overcorrection to that. I have seen it from town in my life, but less often than from mafia.

And I think for now I'm trusting Thunal her and keeping my vote there.

The thing is I have been second guessing my Wisdom vote lol and now that I've looked at her ISO again I think I'll move off. One thing I came back to was her thinking she might have become a more manipulative person when you accused her of being manipulative. If she were mafia and was trying to be manipulative, would she really have that moment of introspection and wonder if she changed as a person?

Imma finish catching up and looking up peoples vote reasons.

Again everyone sorry for spacing on y'all.

[Long Con]

I've been liking dunya's posts today, I think dunya is Towny.

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

I didn't say you made a big case, i said you (more than once) used my one line about asking about no posters being out of character for Rox to justify your vote. You acted like *I* had made a big case. It made me feel like i was being set up for some blame should Rox get yeeted. I don't necessarily still think that, but at the time it freaked me out, LC. It worried me. And "terrifying" was my word choice to express how it made me feel.

Ok!

@dunya You usually have a good track record on Spacedaisy iirc, what's your take there?

GTH town i feel like she's inquisitive and asking and following up on her suspicions without wandering aimlessly everywhrere. I'm missing 4 pages still, as i read the most current and oldest so pending those 4 pages.

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

This sequence of posts about SVS is suspicious imo. LC had a big reaction to SVS's accusation about his Roxy vote and called it insane, but didn't actually move to suspecting her naturally. The "so maybe SVS's reaction to my post is suspicious" doesn't feel like a real thought, it feels like an add-on after the initial defensive reaction.

You were recently lauded as Towny because you progress your viewpoints in a choppy way, so this is ironic to me.

[Le petit poussin]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

[Long Con]

There's a dunya quote about Spacedaisy floating in the above post that I missed responding to. I agree that Spacedaisy feels towny.

[Thunal33]

Very much whelmed with Long Con’s entrance into D2. My opinion was already blendy, and so far he’s feigned outrage at SVS using some choice words, try to get me on board of finding her suspicious for finding his behavior odd and not bothered to do more than that.

Current reads list as of mid day 2:

Town:
Space Daisy
DDL
moto

Townlean:
Syn
SVS
Roxy
Dunya

On the fence but ever so slightly town and need more digging:
Jack

Scumlean:
Thunal
Lime Coke
Le petit (until I hear more)
Jibay (until I hear more)
Nook (where are you)

Scumread:
Wisdom
Long Con

Hrm, now I really want to hear from you re Thunal. Your list is considerably different than mine, but you're more caught up.

I'm at~

Town~
Thunal
DDL
Daisy

Green Lean

Scotty (you always sound so reasonable to me, until you turn on me, so I always have a bit of wiggle room with you)
Syn
Roxy

3P Lean

LC, like i said, he feels neither fish nor fowl to me. I don't think he's actively bad.
Jack, cause he felt similar to LC to me. But i see he's one of the top posters now, and I haven't seem anything yet of his since i made my last list, I've been hopping around)

Null

Nook (I see he posted, but i haven't really read it yet)
Moto (I wanted to do what you said you did and go read other games, but didn't. You saying you did nulled him for me, I was red leaning him based on his vote previously)

Lime~ has his own line. Maybe Orange?

I see why some think he's bad, and i liked DDls theory quite a bit, and that was predicated on Lime being bad. But Thunal seems pretty adamant about him.

Reddish to Red

TPP~ I just read their posts. I think the vote for Syn sounds like a vote looking for an excuse.
Jibay seemed to follow TPPs vote too easily. Like at 12:50 Saturday, no Syn in the suspects:

Spoiler: show

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

24 hours later, with no Syn in between,

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lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

Ok i will stop talking about other games xD and thanks !

page 1 Syn feels like copypasting posts from his town games. Fight this brah

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

ok lettuce put thunal as town for now smh. gonna check syn/wisdom next.

@Nanook: walk me through your JB read?

>wholesome, adorable posting
>lost
>doesn't like to lie
>one post with reads

Idk not super confident or anything, just leans towards new player scum over new player town, but again not super confident and I'd like him to be town, so

Not gonna push it, just want cred in post

Thansk yeah for my first time it's a lot , i don't really know the people ( except Syn, SpaceDaisy, Dunya and le petit poussin) so my reading over other people is very innocent

Sometimes i feeling i'm here to be trown under the window and be the pastic toy of Napeleon

So for now i'm gonna folow Le petit Poussin and his vote

[VOTE: @Syn ] aubergine

Make it change my mind

And Wisdom, who I have voted for and haven't decided to change it yet.

Will be here EOD, to move if warranted.

Tbh I've kind of wondered if Jibay is a wolf. He has a lot of nervous energy and not much reason for his reads, which is consistent with his lack of confidence in his wolf game. Tbf I know I didn't have much confidence in my town game either when I started so it's not a lock.

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC