Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Long Con]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

[dunya]

Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

cqn you explain what you think is suspicious of ddl?

why do you trust scotty? and me? and spacedaisy.

thank you for your time, my love. i appreciate it very much.

[Long Con]

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

That is weird. I missed that.

[S~V~S]

A lot of me just wants to say "Please yeet the Dragon after you kill me" just because I feel like that push, and trying to link Dunya to me when I explained were always friendly with each other in games, is just bad and attempting to link us together to get 2 towns dead.

Idk how many will listen, hopefully some will if I ping so worth a try...
@dunya @Thunal33 @Jackofhearts2005 @Scotty @Long Con @S~V~S

And anyone else who chooses to believe... vote Dragon if I end up dying.

Not being you, I thought it was a good theory~ not so much the things said about you being friendly. I recall one game where you were annoyed iirc that you had signed up cause Dunya was playing, then she didn't play? So that's not a reason to sus you. But 100%, if either you (or in my mind, Wisdom, who I also felt she was defensive of) flipped town, that would give me MUCh less reason to sus her.

From your POV, is she usually someone who defends people as a townie? I know i do that at times, but I went on break while she was playing regularly, and she had stopped when I came back, so I have some but not much experience with Dunya.

[Thunal33]

I've been liking dunya's posts today, I think dunya is Towny.

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

I didn't say you made a big case, i said you (more than once) used my one line about asking about no posters being out of character for Rox to justify your vote. You acted like *I* had made a big case. It made me feel like i was being set up for some blame should Rox get yeeted. I don't necessarily still think that, but at the time it freaked me out, LC. It worried me. And "terrifying" was my word choice to express how it made me feel.

Ok!

@dunya You usually have a good track record on Spacedaisy iirc, what's your take there?

GTH town i feel like she's inquisitive and asking and following up on her suspicions without wandering aimlessly everywhrere. I'm missing 4 pages still, as i read the most current and oldest so pending those 4 pages.

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

Did I really like, make a big case though?

You haven't really made a big anything, honestly. Not since you hogged the bathroom after Taco Tuesday this week

Exactly, so maybe S~V~S' reaction to my post is suspicious.

This sequence of posts about SVS is suspicious imo. LC had a big reaction to SVS's accusation about his Roxy vote and called it insane, but didn't actually move to suspecting her naturally. The "so maybe SVS's reaction to my post is suspicious" doesn't feel like a real thought, it feels like an add-on after the initial defensive reaction.

You were recently lauded as Towny because you progress your viewpoints in a choppy way, so this is ironic to me.

Can you explain your thought process in the posts I quoted? Did you suspect SVS when you had the initial reaction or later?

And being townread for changing my views quickly is correct but unusual for me, I usually get scumread when I'm inconsistent or change a lot lol.

[dunya]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

[Thunal33]

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

That is weird. I missed that.

Something that bothers me is why does he think important role = scum? There are important town roles too.

[Le petit poussin]

Very much whelmed with Long Con’s entrance into D2. My opinion was already blendy, and so far he’s feigned outrage at SVS using some choice words, try to get me on board of finding her suspicious for finding his behavior odd and not bothered to do more than that.

Current reads list as of mid day 2:

Town:
Space Daisy
DDL
moto

Townlean:
Syn
SVS
Roxy
Dunya

On the fence but ever so slightly town and need more digging:
Jack

Scumlean:
Thunal
Lime Coke
Le petit (until I hear more)
Jibay (until I hear more)
Nook (where are you)

Scumread:
Wisdom
Long Con

Hrm, now I really want to hear from you re Thunal. Your list is considerably different than mine, but you're more caught up.

I'm at~

Town~
Thunal
DDL
Daisy

Green Lean

Scotty (you always sound so reasonable to me, until you turn on me, so I always have a bit of wiggle room with you)
Syn
Roxy

3P Lean

LC, like i said, he feels neither fish nor fowl to me. I don't think he's actively bad.
Jack, cause he felt similar to LC to me. But i see he's one of the top posters now, and I haven't seem anything yet of his since i made my last list, I've been hopping around)

Null

Nook (I see he posted, but i haven't really read it yet)
Moto (I wanted to do what you said you did and go read other games, but didn't. You saying you did nulled him for me, I was red leaning him based on his vote previously)

Lime~ has his own line. Maybe Orange?

I see why some think he's bad, and i liked DDls theory quite a bit, and that was predicated on Lime being bad. But Thunal seems pretty adamant about him.

Reddish to Red

TPP~ I just read their posts. I think the vote for Syn sounds like a vote looking for an excuse.
Jibay seemed to follow TPPs vote too easily. Like at 12:50 Saturday, no Syn in the suspects:

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Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

24 hours later, with no Syn in between,

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lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

Ok i will stop talking about other games xD and thanks !

page 1 Syn feels like copypasting posts from his town games. Fight this brah

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

ok lettuce put thunal as town for now smh. gonna check syn/wisdom next.

@Nanook: walk me through your JB read?

>wholesome, adorable posting
>lost
>doesn't like to lie
>one post with reads

Idk not super confident or anything, just leans towards new player scum over new player town, but again not super confident and I'd like him to be town, so

Not gonna push it, just want cred in post

Thansk yeah for my first time it's a lot , i don't really know the people ( except Syn, SpaceDaisy, Dunya and le petit poussin) so my reading over other people is very innocent

Sometimes i feeling i'm here to be trown under the window and be the pastic toy of Napeleon

So for now i'm gonna folow Le petit Poussin and his vote

[VOTE: @Syn ] aubergine

Make it change my mind

And Wisdom, who I have voted for and haven't decided to change it yet.

Will be here EOD, to move if warranted.

Tbh I've kind of wondered if Jibay is a wolf. He has a lot of nervous energy and not much reason for his reads, which is consistent with his lack of confidence in his wolf game. Tbf I know I didn't have much confidence in my town game either when I started so it's not a lock.

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

tbh that sentence is giving me bad vibes too:

1. I am town for raisins
2. he mentionned my role which for me is him bleeding in the thread the fact he has been wondering about it. It's... dunno how to word it otherwise but, something I think a young wolf could do

[Thunal33]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

[dunya]

Bumping Jack to high townlean after looking at his iso. There’s something about his cavalier attitude early on, mixed with an awareness of being called a ‘fence sitter’ and offering some original takes on people in D1 that feel genuine. His ratio of lolcatting : solving is not great, but he seems comfortable and I am associating that with town

wild, i had the opposite impression so far.

[Long Con]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

You thought it was possibly wolfy that "He has a lot of nervous energy and not much reason for his reads" but you didn't bring up that known factor about him that could also be responsible for those traits.

That looks like you're trying to paint a Wolfy picture, rather than the Whole Picture. You know?

[Long Con]

Sorry! I thought I was responding to Thunal there, not dunya.

[S~V~S]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

I just asked Lime a question about you, and let me ask you.

Do you normally defend people as a townie? This game you have defended Wisdom (who notable me, but also other) have suspected, and also Lime. But then, someone who i clearly think is town has also done both.

I didn't put you into my list, cause i wasn't sure where to put you tbh.

[Le petit poussin]

@dunya: what's your read on Syn?

[dunya]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

did jibay vote for me? he's a lot more comfortable with people he knows, he's a bit of an introvert. i don't want to talk on his behalf though or defend him cos i haven't played any forum mafia with him to give you any additional insight.

[Le petit poussin]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

reposting just in case u missed it SVS

[dunya]

@dunya: what's your read on Syn?

he's my strongest town read.

[Thunal33]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

[dunya]

im gonna skim the posts i missed so i can be current again tbh. sorry, husband bday weekend, plus weekend....it's been a long 48hrs.

[Thunal33]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

@dunya ^

[dunya]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

he voted with me, he didn't vote for me. i didn't find it alarming knowing his personality.

jibay is my husband ftr.

[dunya]

[vote[thunal[/vote]

[dunya]

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

[Thunal33]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

he voted with me, he didn't vote for me. i didn't find it alarming knowing his personality.

jibay is my husband ftr.

I'll trust you on reading him for now then.

[Le petit poussin]

@dunya: what's your read on Syn?

he's my strongest town read.

DId you post why? (I haven't got to open ur ISO yet) or feel like explanding?

[Le petit poussin]

ngl the way u formatted this post feels like u want to shut my suspicions down. pls help lmao (I understand ur busy though, hope you both had a great time )

[Long Con]

jibay is my husband ftr.

So he is likely a lot more familiar with forum Mafia than your regular partygoer, assuming he's peeked over your shoulder over the years.

[S~V~S]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

reposting just in case u missed it SVS

no I saw it, and thanks. I am trying to catch up to the past while also living in the present

Re my vote, I felt that Wisdom was being manipulative early on, bordering on AtE. Then her reaction to the sus did not feel really genuine to me; it felt too passive while still being manipulative. Saying things like, "I get it it, people sus me for playstyle all the time", which isn't at all what I was saying, and had the bonus of making me feel almost like a bully, like I was picking on her for Trivia. It's something I have been known to do myself to make people back off when I was bad :whistle:

It's totally a "feels" thing for me, but that's how I play for the most part. Someone makes me feel a certain way, then I pick apart their posts. Sometimes something jumps out of a post first, but usually it's feels.

[Long Con]

It's something I have been known to do myself to make people back off when I was bad :whistle:

*updates permanent reference notes on S~V~S*

I can't wait to bring this up someday.

[dunya]

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

I think BOTH of your suspicions against me were bogus and felt like a stab to my heart. AtE yeah, did it work on ye?

I can't tell whether you suspect me or not. I have a theory on why that is, and it's not Towny. I feel like you're trying to keep me in "possible suspicion" zone, but not yet accusing me of anything other than "sucking" and being "bogus".

spicy. roxy is still on my suspect list. i find her posts to be lacking sincerity and she was quite cold with a genuine post i made about her. i understand time restraints and all that, but there's some hypocricy in how she responds to me.. maybe it's a personal thing idk. but yeah.

Bumping Jack to high townlean after looking at his iso. There’s something about his cavalier attitude early on, mixed with an awareness of being called a ‘fence sitter’ and offering some original takes on people in D1 that feel genuine. His ratio of lolcatting : solving is not great, but he seems comfortable and I am associating that with town

@Jackofhearts2005 wisdom asked you this earlier on D1, but I’ll check in again- do you still townread LC, and if so; why?

My LC read hasn’t really advanced at all from my initial take on his first few posts because I haven’t seen any of his posts since then that were actually about the game and not my avatar.

I ask because based on your posts, it’s vague:

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Doesn’t feel great cause I don’t have a read there and my track record on Falcon the last several times we played was basically a coin toss.

That said, I think LC is town and the Falcon wagon has players I think are townier than the ones on the LC wagon.

town

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Doesn’t feel great cause I don’t have a read there and my track record on Falcon the last several times we played was basically a coin toss.

That said, I think LC is town and the Falcon wagon has players I think are townier than the ones on the LC wagon.

I might have missed it - How come you're town reading LC? I was thinking about maybe pivoting there

Vibes based on his first few posts. Looked more like good guy LC? Like literally. Idk.

Did Roxy already have 3 votes or did that just change?

vibe Town, but ‘idk.’

Bringing it up again since you don’t have many town reads at all, and he is one that I think we are diametrically opposed on.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE MAKING IT DIAMETRIC?? Like, chill dude, have your suspicions, don't make me the Satan of your game because I very typically start slow in any given Mafia game.

Long Con's responses to Scotty and DDl in this series seem quite towny, giving him a town lean now.

[Long Con]

ngl the way u formatted this post feels like u want to shut my suspicions down. pls help lmao (I understand ur busy though, hope you both had a great time )

I think dunya was suspected of being a Lime Coke teammate because she defended him? Now you think she's defending Syn?

[Le petit poussin]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

reposting just in case u missed it SVS

no I saw it, and thanks. I am trying to catch up to the past while also living in the present

Re my vote, I felt that Wisdom was being manipulative early on, bordering on AtE. Then her reaction to the sus did not feel really genuine to me; it felt too passive while still being manipulative. Saying things like, "I get it it, people sus me for playstyle all the time", which isn't at all what I was saying, and had the bonus of making me feel almost like a bully, like I was picking on her for Trivia. It's something I have been known to do myself to make people back off when I was bad :whistle:

It's totally a "feels" thing for me, but that's how I play for the most part. Someone makes me feel a certain way, then I pick apart their posts. Sometimes something jumps out of a post first, but usually it's feels.

oh lol.

thanks for the context around your vote (Ill get to Wisdom in a few so it's usefull anyway). but I was wondering about how you feel about MY vote on Syn (I made a typo in that post). u posted something along the line "feels like finding an excuse to vote" or something.

[dunya]

jibay is my husband ftr.

So he is likely a lot more familiar with forum Mafia than your regular partygoer, assuming he's peeked over your shoulder over the years.

i stopped playing mafia when we met basically so no lol.

[Long Con]

LC does not feel towny to me, but he also does not feel bad to me. That one post he made about figuring out how to use powers for town, that felt like old timey town LC. But then trying to blame his Roxy vote on me like a made a big case when i said one line, that struck me as a bit terrifying. so again I DUNNO.

S~V~S, this is insane, it's amped up, it's hyperbolically overwrought.

"Blame"???

Like, you said something that triggered some thought pathways that led to some conclusions, I was just referencing the genesis of my own thoughts on the subject, not dumping some imagined consequence at your feet. "Terrifying"? Really?

I think BOTH of your suspicions against me were bogus and felt like a stab to my heart. AtE yeah, did it work on ye?

I can't tell whether you suspect me or not. I have a theory on why that is, and it's not Towny. I feel like you're trying to keep me in "possible suspicion" zone, but not yet accusing me of anything other than "sucking" and being "bogus".

spicy. roxy is still on my suspect list. i find her posts to be lacking sincerity and she was quite cold with a genuine post i made about her. i understand time restraints and all that, but there's some hypocricy in how she responds to me.. maybe it's a personal thing idk. but yeah.

Thank you for the reminder, I knew there was a Roxy thing but I couldn't remember, this is it. I'd vote Roxy, Thunal, Syn, or motobot right now. Or maybe Le petit poussin.

Salad!

[Long Con]

jibay is my husband ftr.

So he is likely a lot more familiar with forum Mafia than your regular partygoer, assuming he's peeked over your shoulder over the years.

i stopped playing mafia when we met basically so no lol.

I hate that you let him control you like that. jk

[dunya]

ngl the way u formatted this post feels like u want to shut my suspicions down. pls help lmao (I understand ur busy though, hope you both had a great time )

I think dunya was suspected of being a Lime Coke teammate because she defended him? Now you think she's defending Syn?

i do think syn is town, and i didn't really explain myself why. i'll get to it, i was just more focused on who to vote for before eod. i don't know how i feel about lime coke as i have to process his emotioanl posts, it was certainly reaching of ddl to pair me with lime coke for making observations. lime coke has emotional outbursts in either alignment when suspected, and i havent played with him properly in some years tbf, but i was a pretty good reader of his sincerity previously.

[dunya]

jibay is my husband ftr.

So he is likely a lot more familiar with forum Mafia than your regular partygoer, assuming he's peeked over your shoulder over the years.

i stopped playing mafia when we met basically so no lol.

I hate that you let him control you like that. jk

dude i know, he's got a monopoly of my time ;p

[Le petit poussin]

ngl the way u formatted this post feels like u want to shut my suspicions down. pls help lmao (I understand ur busy though, hope you both had a great time )

I think dunya was suspected of being a Lime Coke teammate because she defended him? Now you think she's defending Syn?

I didn't read dunyas posts bare the most recent ones.

I am just asking since it's the feeling I got reading this. Should I not? (I just know she is capable of being very affimative (and directive :curtain:) on purpose too so here we are)

Also pal, your "now you ..." is just missplaced misrepresentation you know. I haven't been in the thread D1.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

gth Lime Coke is town lol. (it's just I find he hit the soft spot of ATEing - "omg my reads have sucked balls lately I've lost all my mojo" - just enough that I find it real. A bit more and I'd just vote him in oblivion but I kinda liked that string of posts)

That being said, it's still a pretty weak read so I am opening his ISO now that I have a bit of time.

Same tbh.

But the thing is, there is a good chance Lime is wolf and yet was still honest about his emotions there.

We need to normalize the idea that wolves can be honest.

Actually never mind, don't normalize that, it helps me win games as a wolf.

Honest?

Yeah. Just because you are a wolf doesn't mean you have to be dishonest all the time. Wolves have feelings too, and if those feelings aren't specifically a desire to make town lose, you may as well show them to the town, and make friends with them.

Last game I played here as a wolf, I was honestly overwhelmed with the thread volume and feeling guilty about my inability to play the game properly. Why resorting to fake AtE when I had real, pallatable emotions I could express?

[S~V~S]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

reposting just in case u missed it SVS

no I saw it, and thanks. I am trying to catch up to the past while also living in the present

Re my vote, I felt that Wisdom was being manipulative early on, bordering on AtE. Then her reaction to the sus did not feel really genuine to me; it felt too passive while still being manipulative. Saying things like, "I get it it, people sus me for playstyle all the time", which isn't at all what I was saying, and had the bonus of making me feel almost like a bully, like I was picking on her for Trivia. It's something I have been known to do myself to make people back off when I was bad :whistle:

It's totally a "feels" thing for me, but that's how I play for the most part. Someone makes me feel a certain way, then I pick apart their posts. Sometimes something jumps out of a post first, but usually it's feels.

oh lol.

thanks for the context around your vote (Ill get to Wisdom in a few so it's usefull anyway). but I was wondering about how you feel about MY vote on Syn (I made a typo in that post). u posted something along the line "feels like finding an excuse to vote" or something.

Oh OK, doh.

Your progression felt very meh to me. Your main observation of him was that he felt like he was just copy/pasting, phoning it in as it were. I don't recall the game, but I played on bad game with him where he was really involved, and in this game, it seems unless he had a no show partner, he would likely get a fun chat. I don't see where low involvement would make him bad. UNLESS you had more experience with him, that would be different. but you didn't say that.

It doesn't feel like you actually want to yeet him, it feels a bit half hearted. Not unlike what you said about him, now that I think about it. Like I said, it felt like you decided to vote for Syn, and then looked for a reason to explain it.

BUT it also feels little like the last game we played where you were bad, and played it with conviction.

[Jibay]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

yeah , i'm an easy follower for game like that i don't take the lead except if i have a strong felling about it ^^'

TPP~ I just read their posts. I think the vote for Syn sounds like a vote looking for an excuse.
Jibay seemed to follow TPPs vote too easily. Like at 12:50 Saturday, no Syn in the suspects:

Like i said i'm following someone i have meet IRL i think LPP can be trusty

Tbh I've kind of wondered if Jibay is a wolf. He has a lot of nervous energy and not much reason for his reads, which is consistent with his lack of confidence in his wolf game. Tbf I know I didn't have much confidence in my town game either when I started so it's not a lock.

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

yeah nervous to do my first game ^^' but trying to be more at it

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

First online but some IRL ( WOLF)

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

I know Syn only by Dunya online only

[S~V~S]

gth Lime Coke is town lol. (it's just I find he hit the soft spot of ATEing - "omg my reads have sucked balls lately I've lost all my mojo" - just enough that I find it real. A bit more and I'd just vote him in oblivion but I kinda liked that string of posts)

That being said, it's still a pretty weak read so I am opening his ISO now that I have a bit of time.

Same tbh.

But the thing is, there is a good chance Lime is wolf and yet was still honest about his emotions there.

We need to normalize the idea that wolves can be honest.

Actually never mind, don't normalize that, it helps me win games as a wolf.

Honest?

Yeah. Just because you are a wolf doesn't mean you have to be dishonest all the time. Wolves have feelings too, and if those feelings aren't specifically a desire to make town lose, you may as well show them to the town, and make friends with them.

Last game I played here as a wolf, I was honestly overwhelmed with the thread volume and feeling guilty about my inability to play the game properly. Why resorting to fake AtE when I had real, pallatable emotions I could express?

Oh 100%. I try to directly lie as little as possible when I'm bad. And i find those are usually the games I am at my wolfy best. I honestly feel bad about deceiving people in games.

[dunya]

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

this feels like a pocket if thunal w, nanook likely town. like i read the series of nanook posts and i can't see it as a huge authentic progress on lime? feels like she may have tmi.

i am afraid of being in a tunnell maybe but i cant see good vibes from thunal's posts lol.

[Long Con]

ngl the way u formatted this post feels like u want to shut my suspicions down. pls help lmao (I understand ur busy though, hope you both had a great time )

I think dunya was suspected of being a Lime Coke teammate because she defended him? Now you think she's defending Syn?

I didn't read dunyas posts bare the most recent ones.

I am just asking since it's the feeling I got reading this. Should I not? (I just know she is capable of being very affimative (and directive :curtain:) on purpose too so here we are)

Also pal, your "now you ..." is just missplaced misrepresentation you know. I haven't been in the thread D1.

I did not mean to imply that YOU had linked dunya to Lime Coke.

[dunya]

Like i said i'm following someone i have meet IRL i think LPP can be trusty

that is your biggest mistake ever.

[Long Con]

We need to normalize the idea that wolves can be honest.

Actually never mind, don't normalize that, it helps me win games as a wolf.

Honest?
[/quote]

Yeah.
[/quote]

Got'im!

[Long Con]

Nooo, my case thrown out on a quote technicality.

[dunya]

lol I started by JBays ISO lmao. feels like throwing a candy to a 3yo kiddo. I'd give that slot a town lean (so much hype lol).

@JBay: stop talking about thiercielleux lmao. Nobody knows that prolly here. belated happy bday too mate!

hey, i know! i know cos he talked to me about it

[Le petit poussin]

@SVS I do agree JiBay followed that vote too easily too fwiw. I don't get why u feel like u feel about your vote though, feel like expanding?

reposting just in case u missed it SVS

no I saw it, and thanks. I am trying to catch up to the past while also living in the present

Re my vote, I felt that Wisdom was being manipulative early on, bordering on AtE. Then her reaction to the sus did not feel really genuine to me; it felt too passive while still being manipulative. Saying things like, "I get it it, people sus me for playstyle all the time", which isn't at all what I was saying, and had the bonus of making me feel almost like a bully, like I was picking on her for Trivia. It's something I have been known to do myself to make people back off when I was bad :whistle:

It's totally a "feels" thing for me, but that's how I play for the most part. Someone makes me feel a certain way, then I pick apart their posts. Sometimes something jumps out of a post first, but usually it's feels.

oh lol.

thanks for the context around your vote (Ill get to Wisdom in a few so it's usefull anyway). but I was wondering about how you feel about MY vote on Syn (I made a typo in that post). u posted something along the line "feels like finding an excuse to vote" or something.

Oh OK, doh.

Your progression felt very meh to me. Your main observation of him was that he felt like he was just copy/pasting, phoning it in as it were. I don't recall the game, but I played on bad game with him where he was really involved, and in this game, it seems unless he had a no show partner, he would likely get a fun chat. I don't see where low involvement would make him bad. UNLESS you had more experience with him, that would be different. but you didn't say that.

It doesn't feel like you actually want to yeet him, it feels a bit half hearted. Not unlike what you said about him, now that I think about it. Like I said, it felt like you decided to vote for Syn, and then looked for a reason to explain it.

BUT it also feels little like the last game we played where you were bad, and played it with conviction.

for context he is the player I have the most experience with in this roster by far. been playing with Synchan since 2019.

You are not wrong there though, it's not like he is in the "lock wolf" tier for me rn. I just feel his ISO is a bit wolfy for him aorn (don't read into the order I post things, votes, explanations, etc... sometimes I just vibe, sometimes I feel like expanding, whatever my alignment. ofc do what u want but heh). I wish he wouldn't live in the far west so we could realtime a bit before EOD. I am not sure I will stay either tbf. I am reading Scotty rn to check the context of his vote, and I disliked the way Jibay followed me so I am actually second guessing.

lol about ur last sentence! yeah, when Wilgy didn't show up for 24 hours I knew I was in charge

[Le petit poussin]

Like i said i'm following someone i have meet IRL i think LPP can be trusty

that is your biggest mistake ever.

YOu just broke mon petit coeur. (my little heart)