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[Dragon D. Luffy]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

he voted with me, he didn't vote for me. i didn't find it alarming knowing his personality.

jibay is my husband ftr.

I'll trust you on reading him for now then.

From what I gather, couples in this site sometimes have the uncanny ability to read each other's minds in mafia games, but sometimes... they just don't. It's like a coinflip. No idea which side those two will fall.

[dunya]

for context he is the player I have the most experience with in this roster by far. been playing with Synchan since 2019.

tbf, i haven't played with syn much, i think he's mostly hosted me playing his games.

i just don't see w!syn make posts like this:

does spacedaisy usually over-explain herself?

I would be interested in your reactions to "yes" and to "no", please.

if yes, I go back to lurking

if no, I vote her

level zero answer would be rask/little chicken

spicy answer would be ddl

I'd shoot myself

w!syn isnt the first person to bring up shooting people shortlist. i know i wouldn't be, if i was mafia. it's something i'd feel way too self concious about being analyzed about.

also making the "lurking" comment, as someone who is referred to as being low on wim as mafia, to self admit he's lurking is another thing i feel like w!syn wouldn't do.

that is all.

[dunya]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it. if syn flips mafia, ddl can pair us and i won't fight it.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

gth Lime Coke is town lol. (it's just I find he hit the soft spot of ATEing - "omg my reads have sucked balls lately I've lost all my mojo" - just enough that I find it real. A bit more and I'd just vote him in oblivion but I kinda liked that string of posts)

That being said, it's still a pretty weak read so I am opening his ISO now that I have a bit of time.

Same tbh.

But the thing is, there is a good chance Lime is wolf and yet was still honest about his emotions there.

We need to normalize the idea that wolves can be honest.

Actually never mind, don't normalize that, it helps me win games as a wolf.

Honest?

Yeah. Just because you are a wolf doesn't mean you have to be dishonest all the time. Wolves have feelings too, and if those feelings aren't specifically a desire to make town lose, you may as well show them to the town, and make friends with them.

Last game I played here as a wolf, I was honestly overwhelmed with the thread volume and feeling guilty about my inability to play the game properly. Why resorting to fake AtE when I had real, pallatable emotions I could express?

Oh 100%. I try to directly lie as little as possible when I'm bad. And i find those are usually the games I am at my wolfy best. I honestly feel bad about deceiving people in games.

Thanks for sharing, I was honestly wondering if I was the only madman who played like this.

Anyway, the reason I pointed that out is because I did think Lime's outburst was honest. But it also happens to be mostly about his unhappiness about recent town play in previous games. Which he could have even if he is a wolf here.

[dunya]

This is Jibay's first online Mafia game, but he's played at live parties before... is that accurate?

yes, he has played warewolf with the seer etc in live parties before (like 7 player short games only). this is his first forum mafia game, and first time playing it in english.

Is Jibay someone who would vote you as a default because he didn't know who else to vote?

Here's why I'm asking:

Hey! I'm here
Sorry for the first day i was sure the EOD was one hour after i connected 7 min late
So @Scotty I didn't anwser any of you question so i'm sorry
So you asked me if i had been wolf before for The IRL Game i can say yes i have been , but unfortunately not a very good one
For the first day i wanted to vote like @dunya because i really did'nt for who to vote ^^'

For now the list i have suspision is :
LongCon -> Don't have the feeling of a twon person
Dragon D Luffy -> hum i love one piece, but this Luffy feel suspicious to me

( This list is not with any preference of how's first )

And the one pretty safe i think:
SpaceDaisy
Scotty
Dunya

PS :Thanks to everybody how wish me Happy Bday

Most newer people to mafia wouldn't default to voting a person they know irl.

he voted with me, he didn't vote for me. i didn't find it alarming knowing his personality.

jibay is my husband ftr.

I'll trust you on reading him for now then.

From what I gather, couples in this site sometimes have the uncanny ability to read each other's minds in mafia games, but sometimes... they just don't. It's like a coinflip. No idea which side those two will fall.

i certainly don't want to be followed on my read of jibay.

i have never played forum mafia with him so i have no extra intel than anyone else in here except maybe for knowing when he's pooping or eating or sleeping...very useful intel.

[Roxy]

I'm being left off lists entirely

And now I've been told I'm cold bc I responded to a post and someone agreed with that who actually knows me.

This game is not fun when you are told you are cold so to that end

vote myself

[Dragon D. Luffy]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it. if syn flips mafia, ddl can pair us and i won't fight it.

Your defense of syn is not particularly suspicious, though.

I'm annoyed that you are simplifying my argument to "defense of", though.

[Long Con]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it. if syn flips mafia, ddl can pair us and i won't fight it.

Your defense of syn is not particularly suspicious, though.

I'm annoyed that you are simplifying my argument to "defense of", though.

I think I did that, sorry!

[Long Con]

I'm being left off lists entirely

And now I've been told I'm cold bc I responded to a post and someone agreed with that who actually knows me.

This game is not fun when you are told you are cold so to that end

vote myself

Nooo you are a fiery beast! You are on my list!

[Le petit poussin]

for context he is the player I have the most experience with in this roster by far. been playing with Synchan since 2019.

tbf, i haven't played with syn much, i think he's mostly hosted me playing his games.

i just don't see w!syn make posts like this:

does spacedaisy usually over-explain herself?

I would be interested in your reactions to "yes" and to "no", please.

if yes, I go back to lurking

if no, I vote her

level zero answer would be rask/little chicken

spicy answer would be ddl

I'd shoot myself

w!syn isnt the first person to bring up shooting people shortlist. i know i wouldn't be, if i was mafia. it's something i'd feel way too self concious about being analyzed about.

also making the "lurking" comment, as someone who is referred to as being low on wim as mafia, to self admit he's lurking is another thing i feel like w!syn wouldn't do.

that is all.

hmmm good post. thoughts on Long Con?

[dunya]

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

Is this solely about process, or do you agree with Nanook's conclusions?

I think Lime Coke has a good chance of being mafia and I’m not sure on Wisdom anymore. She had some stuff I thought was towny on d1 but I thought her moving off Falcon because of DADV was off.

How is Lime not under the category of DADV today?

Just playing devils advocate, I also think he’s a hit, but I didn’t believe in falcon falling in that category yesterday (even though it turned true)

I don’t really believe in DADV, I was pointing out Wisdom’s use of it feeling wolfy. I usually like to stay the course on wagons at EoD unless I have a good reason not to.

is dadv not a thing anymore in mafia universe? when i played there it was everything...flash wagons was a way of life. why would you find that wolfy of wisdom?

[Long Con]

I have been left off lists and I'm usually like "phew!"

[Spacedaisy]

I'm being left off lists entirely

And now I've been told I'm cold bc I responded to a post and someone agreed with that who actually knows me.

This game is not fun when you are told you are cold so to that end

vote myself

I must have missed where someone called you cold. I actually contemplated putting you on my town vibes list, I just wasn't sure I saw enough from you yet to do that, so I didn't. My lean on you is very slight town.

[dunya]

This game is not fun when you are told you are cold so to that end

it's also not fun when someone says they dont care what you think to dismiss you tbh.

[Long Con]

Is DADV about the 'accused villager's "air", as in they are silent, or is it about the general thread discussed of the accused?

[dunya]

anyway, this day has turned sour, so im sticking to thunal and signing off.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I have been left off lists and I'm usually like "phew!"

Maybe Roxy is the jester.

[dunya]

Is DADV about the 'accused villager's "air", as in they are silent, or is it about the general thread discussed of the accused?

i think it's something about how the thread state is dead air, dead villager when votes arent moving hysterically at eod or they are...different meanings for if the wagon is mafia or villager

[Thunal33]

Nanook can have a town lean, I liked his process on Lime probably being mafia (I think due to his lack of content) and then checking the wagon next and getting bad vibes from it being the Falcon wagon. It reminds me of the reads I make as a spectator.

Is this solely about process, or do you agree with Nanook's conclusions?

I think Lime Coke has a good chance of being mafia and I’m not sure on Wisdom anymore. She had some stuff I thought was towny on d1 but I thought her moving off Falcon because of DADV was off.

How is Lime not under the category of DADV today?

Just playing devils advocate, I also think he’s a hit, but I didn’t believe in falcon falling in that category yesterday (even though it turned true)

I don’t really believe in DADV, I was pointing out Wisdom’s use of it feeling wolfy. I usually like to stay the course on wagons at EoD unless I have a good reason not to.

is dadv not a thing anymore in mafia universe? when i played there it was everything...flash wagons was a way of life. why would you find that wolfy of wisdom?

I didn't really think she'd use DADV as a thing here when she's played enough to know EoDs are quieter here. There are definitely lots of flash wagons on MU still but I don't think people use just DADV for reasoning to start them as often.

Wisdom does like flash wagons and does get cold feet on her votes as town, but she can also fake nervousness at EoD as a wolf.

[Le petit poussin]

Is DADV about the 'accused villager's "air", as in they are silent, or is it about the general thread discussed of the accused?

as I understand it, it's more like a gamestate, threadstate read. thread is being quiet because a villager is top wagon kindof. (and wolves are eating popcorn in wc)

I do think it's pretty rand personnally

[Thunal33]

I'm not feeling great this EoD either. My reasoning on Long Con being PoE + a relatively isolated point feels like it doesn't hit much more often than random but I don't want to vote Lime Coke and I don't really want to vote Syn. I'll vote Syn to save Lime Coke if I need to but I haven't actually found much wolfy from his posts.

[Le petit poussin]

I have been left off lists and I'm usually like "phew!"

Maybe Roxy is the jester.

wat. Gosh I need to reread that first post really quick. wat jester lol no

[S~V~S]

I'm being left off lists entirely

And now I've been told I'm cold bc I responded to a post and someone agreed with that who actually knows me.

This game is not fun when you are told you are cold so to that end

vote myself

Rox, game people and real people are not the same. I'm sorry if i hurt your feelings, it is never the intention.

Also you're on my list.

SVS said~ I'm at~

Town~
Thunal
DDL
Daisy

Green Lean

Scotty (you always sound so reasonable to me, until you turn on me, so I always have a bit of wiggle room with you)
Syn
Roxy

[Thunal33]

I feel like the gamestate is wrong but I can't articulate why it's wrong.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I have been left off lists and I'm usually like "phew!"

Maybe Roxy is the jester.

wat. Gosh I need to reread that first post really quick. wat jester lol no

That was a joke post. There is an indie of unknown nature, which could theoretically be a jester, but a secret jester is very bastard game design, and I don't think it's that kind of game we are playing.

[dunya]

for context he is the player I have the most experience with in this roster by far. been playing with Synchan since 2019.

tbf, i haven't played with syn much, i think he's mostly hosted me playing his games.

i just don't see w!syn make posts like this:

does spacedaisy usually over-explain herself?

I would be interested in your reactions to "yes" and to "no", please.

if yes, I go back to lurking

if no, I vote her

level zero answer would be rask/little chicken

spicy answer would be ddl

I'd shoot myself

w!syn isnt the first person to bring up shooting people shortlist. i know i wouldn't be, if i was mafia. it's something i'd feel way too self concious about being analyzed about.

also making the "lurking" comment, as someone who is referred to as being low on wim as mafia, to self admit he's lurking is another thing i feel like w!syn wouldn't do.

that is all.

hmmm good post. thoughts on Long Con?

found him lacking substance yesterday, found him sincere and vibed with him in towny mindset today

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I feel like the gamestate is wrong but I can't articulate why it's wrong.

I feel like we have a billion leads going on at once and everyone is doing their little thinbg, and we lack some kind of actual town teamwork.

Lime is just the biggest thing, but even that doesn't feel like a consensus.

Is there anyone everybody seems suspicious of? I don't remember.

[Le petit poussin]

anyway, this day has turned sour, so im sticking to thunal and signing off.

(off topic: Missing our chats Dun, slide in DMs whenever u feel like/have time for)

[Long Con]

for context he is the player I have the most experience with in this roster by far. been playing with Synchan since 2019.

tbf, i haven't played with syn much, i think he's mostly hosted me playing his games.

i just don't see w!syn make posts like this:

does spacedaisy usually over-explain herself?

I would be interested in your reactions to "yes" and to "no", please.

if yes, I go back to lurking

if no, I vote her

level zero answer would be rask/little chicken

spicy answer would be ddl

I'd shoot myself

w!syn isnt the first person to bring up shooting people shortlist. i know i wouldn't be, if i was mafia. it's something i'd feel way too self concious about being analyzed about.

also making the "lurking" comment, as someone who is referred to as being low on wim as mafia, to self admit he's lurking is another thing i feel like w!syn wouldn't do.

that is all.

hmmm good post. thoughts on Long Con?

found him lacking substance yesterday, found him sincere and vibed with him in towny mindset today

I just have to get warmed up in a game. Especially when the games are few and far between at times.

[Long Con]

I feel like the gamestate is wrong but I can't articulate why it's wrong.

I feel like we have a billion leads going on at once and everyone is doing their little thinbg, and we lack some kind of actual town teamwork.

Lime is just the biggest thing, but even that doesn't feel like a consensus.

Is there anyone everybody seems suspicious of? I don't remember.

How about Motobot?

[Thunal33]

I feel like the gamestate is wrong but I can't articulate why it's wrong.

I feel like we have a billion leads going on at once and everyone is doing their little thinbg, and we lack some kind of actual town teamwork.

Lime is just the biggest thing, but even that doesn't feel like a consensus.

Is there anyone everybody seems suspicious of? I don't remember.

I don't think so, and every vote I'd reasonably make today I have to go against someone's hard town shield which is something I have a hard time doing.

[Long Con]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it.

I'll vote Syn to save Lime Coke if I need to

This is fun, right?

[Le petit poussin]

oh boy now I am reading LC made Mac's avie! (I agree it's a contender for best of all time dude, great work lol).

gamewise, I am not sure I feel good about any of these wagons (syn/Lime Coke). I will double check Brad though

[Long Con]

Thanks! He deserved it, Mac's the best!

[dunya]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it.

I'll vote Syn to save Lime Coke if I need to

This is fun, right?

i saw that and laughed, i feel like ate got me from lime coke.

i'll just stick with my gut for today

[Long Con]

i would vote lime coke to save syn if it came down to it.

I'll vote Syn to save Lime Coke if I need to

This is fun, right?

i saw that and laughed, i feel like ate got me from lime coke.

i'll just stick with my gut for today

I will [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine as well.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I feel like the gamestate is wrong but I can't articulate why it's wrong.

I feel like we have a billion leads going on at once and everyone is doing their little thinbg, and we lack some kind of actual town teamwork.

Lime is just the biggest thing, but even that doesn't feel like a consensus.

Is there anyone everybody seems suspicious of? I don't remember.

How about Motobot?

I'm actually townreading him rn.

[Long Con]

Three way tie as of now.

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
1
6%
Voters: Lime Coke
Jibay
0
No votes
Voters: None
le petit poussin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
3
19%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
2
13%
Voters: Spacedaisy, Thunal33
motobot
1
6%
Voters: Wisdom
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
1
6%
Voters: Roxy
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
3
19%
Voters: Jibay, Le petit poussin, Scotty
Thunal33
3
19%
Voters: dunya, Syn, Long Con
Wisdom
1

[dunya]

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

That is weird. I missed that.

Something that bothers me is why does he think important role = scum? There are important town roles too.

the btsc thing is a bit angleshooty, but i feel he didn't mean it that way, but i also felt confused about "a more important role" ... what makes a role important and makes you more interactive or present?

@Jibay can you tell us what you meant by that

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't like Thunal much but I like Lime less.

It's a good tie imo.

[Long Con]

That's S~V~S voting for Wisdom, in case the records are needed somehow. Accidentally cut it off.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I can't believe I'm getting voted here. I thought this was one of my more obvious town games and I've really tried to show my work and my process. I don't get it.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Oh wait no Syn has 3 too.

I don't suspect him that much.

Sounds like tiebreaker-san will have work to do today.

[Long Con]

Also this is weird but I'm not sure if it's wolfy weird or not:

I think i'm gonna follow your feelings, i thinks you are a town, if you had a more important role you will be already here from the start and BTSC

That is weird. I missed that.

Something that bothers me is why does he think important role = scum? There are important town roles too.

the btsc thing is a bit angleshooty, but i feel he didn't mean it that way, but i also felt confused about "a more important role" ... what makes a role important and makes you more interactive or present?

Grandma is less important, as a vanilla.

[Long Con]

That should force dunya to vote Lime Coke

[Le petit poussin]

[VOTE: motobot] aubergine

[Long Con]

Taking the heat off Thunal... for now!

[Thunal33]

I don't like that I'm being wagoned after I got misvigged and nearly d1ed in my last town game. I adjusted my game to be more findable this game and really tried to be more open with my process and less hyperfixated on getting specific townies to read me correctly.

[dunya]

ugh, i wanna sign off but syn isn't here to self pres he said.

[Le petit poussin]

That should force dunya to vote Lime Coke

ninjaed.

I considered voting you, but I am sheeping dunyas read for now.