Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[dunya]

leading wagon. gee. i wonder how this started...

[Syn]

leading wagon. gee. i wonder how this started...

meeeee :3

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why does every fucking game has to turn like this? Legit I can't catch a single fucking break and play a single fucking game without getting massively pissed off fucking hell

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

There, how bout now

No, kill Jack.

It's the second time someone unvotes you to vote dunya instead, and you take issue with it. Why not dunya?

Let's... let's do what he says, and kill Jack. Right?

No. It's Lime or dunya. If Lime is town, he can't be too opposed to killing dunya, whose alignment he does not know for sure.

It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.

Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.

Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.

Can you answer the question plz?

[S~V~S]

I could see how two days of town yeets, especially with one of them being a protection role, (even with the N1 fail NK), could give us some happy dance wolves.

Then a wolf daykilled, followed by a *second* night of No NK, could lead to some demoralized wolves Day 3.

As I said already, my top coming into today was Dunya, it still is. So imma [VOTE: Dunya] aubergine and take my morning back.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

There, how bout now

No, kill Jack.

It's the second time someone unvotes you to vote dunya instead, and you take issue with it. Why not dunya?

Let's... let's do what he says, and kill Jack. Right?

No. It's Lime or dunya. If Lime is town, he can't be too opposed to killing dunya, whose alignment he does not know for sure.

It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.

Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.

Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.

Can you answer the question plz?

I... did?

If it's off of just posting in the game itself and I have a unique reason or I can actually put it into words, then yes.
If it's meta related, no. I refuse to give anyone information on what I have with people's meta because I don't want to give them a way to adapt and fuck me over in future games.

I like to keep my advantages on people so that I can at least look good if I catch them as a wolf and help them out when I find them as town and work with them.

[S~V~S]

A lot of people think that way, I'm an outlier.

I like talking to people about their meta, and if i have specific tells, I tell them. I think it makes future games more challenging, and makes my opponents better opponents. But i might be the only person who thinks that way ha ha

But this said, ^^ I think what Lime said is true of him. He shoots out one liner reads alot, especially early in games.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

No, kill Jack.

It's the second time someone unvotes you to vote dunya instead, and you take issue with it. Why not dunya?

Let's... let's do what he says, and kill Jack. Right?

No. It's Lime or dunya. If Lime is town, he can't be too opposed to killing dunya, whose alignment he does not know for sure.

It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.

Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.

Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.

Can you answer the question plz?

I... did?

If it's off of just posting in the game itself and I have a unique reason or I can actually put it into words, then yes.
If it's meta related, no. I refuse to give anyone information on what I have with people's meta because I don't want to give them a way to adapt and fuck me over in future games.

I like to keep my advantages on people so that I can at least look good if I catch them as a wolf and help them out when I find them as town and work with them.

What I mean is, when you are town, do you normally have trouble giving reasons to your reads, or is it just this game?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well SVS responded it.

[Roxy]

Daisy
Scotty
LC2
LC1
SVS
Thunal
Syn
Jibay
Luffy
Nook
LPP
dunya
Jack


This is where I have put people in my mind. Hers my vote: dunya just going with the majority for this game
Happy Wednesday to those who care to receive my hello.

[Roxy]

btw Luffy no MoD reached out to me at all just an fyi not that I matter to anyone or think I am important (bc I do not think I am worth anything) just letting you know

[Le petit poussin]

btw Luffy no MoD reached out to me at all just an fyi not that I matter to anyone or think I am important (bc I do not think I am worth anything) just letting you know

hey you are certainly worth something Roxy. hugs.

Unlike this dude

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[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm not gonna talk about thunal all day, I realize I'm in tunnel territory so when I'm on my.laptop I'll focus on wisdom teammates. I forgot for a second wisdom flipped wolf so I'm just looking for two lol

Oooooooh man.

I kinda think there's no world where LPP derptells (real or fake) not knowing Wisdom died, w!Dunya calls that scummy and then turns around and fake derptells forgetting the number of wolves remaining.

Otoh, actually forgetting Wisdom is dead two seconds after its been talked about ought to be NAI.

I think forgetting Wisdom died is weird. I wouldn't forget a wolf died as town but I also wouldn't forget a wolf died as a wolf.

Dunya is 3p? half joking

I mean, yeah, mafia dying is most forgettable to a 3P role that doesn't give a damn about if wolves or townies die. Uncle Rico isn't necessarily that kinda 3P but all townies and wolves should know and care.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I love Rask's avatar and sometimes I just watch it for several cycles

[Jackofhearts2005]

Daisy
Scotty
LC2
LC1
SVS
Thunal
Syn
Jibay
Luffy
Nook
LPP
dunya
Jack


This is where I have put people in my mind. Hers my vote: dunya just going with the majority for this game
Happy Wednesday to those who care to receive my hello.

Heya, Roxy. I was excited to see you posting because you and Jibay are the two players I've had like no interaction with all game.

How am I at the bottom of your list?

[Jackofhearts2005]

leading wagon. gee. i wonder how this started...

T'wasn't me.

Okay it was kinda me but mostly you.

[Lime Coke]

It's the second time someone unvotes you to vote dunya instead, and you take issue with it. Why not dunya?



No. It's Lime or dunya. If Lime is town, he can't be too opposed to killing dunya, whose alignment he does not know for sure.

It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.

Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.

Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.

Can you answer the question plz?

I... did?

If it's off of just posting in the game itself and I have a unique reason or I can actually put it into words, then yes.
If it's meta related, no. I refuse to give anyone information on what I have with people's meta because I don't want to give them a way to adapt and fuck me over in future games.

I like to keep my advantages on people so that I can at least look good if I catch them as a wolf and help them out when I find them as town and work with them.

What I mean is, when you are town, do you normally have trouble giving reasons to your reads, or is it just this game?

Well recently, as in the last 3 or 4 months after I took a sight break from mafia, I've been having trouble with 1. Explaining my reads and 2. Actually gaining anything I'm reading during the games in order to form a read on people.

It's also been kinda rough for me because I've had some really really shitty performances as town the entire time. For multiple reasons. And I haven't been given much help beyond "you should take a break!" in terms of what I should be doing to help me out of this fucking horrific spell which is fucking useless because I sorta want to actually play and it gives me no actual advice.

[Scotty]

I'm not gonna talk about thunal all day, I realize I'm in tunnel territory so when I'm on my.laptop I'll focus on wisdom teammates. I forgot for a second wisdom flipped wolf so I'm just looking for two lol

Oooooooh man.

I kinda think there's no world where LPP derptells (real or fake) not knowing Wisdom died, w!Dunya calls that scummy and then turns around and fake derptells forgetting the number of wolves remaining.

Otoh, actually forgetting Wisdom is dead two seconds after its been talked about ought to be NAI.

I think forgetting Wisdom died is weird. I wouldn't forget a wolf died as town but I also wouldn't forget a wolf died as a wolf.

Dunya is 3p? half joking

I mean, yeah, mafia dying is most forgettable to a 3P role that doesn't give a damn about if wolves or townies die. Uncle Rico isn't necessarily that kinda 3P but all townies and wolves should know and care.

This is actually the most likely scenario now that I think about it. Which eliminates my qualifier of (if dunya bad, lime coke good) because if dunya is 3p, there is no link to lime coke

[Scotty]

btw Luffy no MoD reached out to me at all just an fyi not that I matter to anyone or think I am important (bc I do not think I am worth anything) just letting you know

Hey Roxy, will talk more in postgame but for now, this is merely an unfounded projection. You are important and I’m sorry you feel that you are not. You are needed in this game and the more you can contribute for town, the better off we are!

[Scotty]

Daisy
Scotty
LC2
LC1
SVS
Thunal
Syn
Jibay
Luffy
Nook
LPP
dunya
Jack


This is where I have put people in my mind. Hers my vote: dunya just going with the majority for this game
Happy Wednesday to those who care to receive my hello.

Noice

Can you expand on the top and bottom of your ranges if you can? If it’s just vibe, then so be it.

But why jack as lowest? And why is Lime Coke so high for you?

[Scotty]

It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.

Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.

Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.

Can you answer the question plz?

I... did?

If it's off of just posting in the game itself and I have a unique reason or I can actually put it into words, then yes.
If it's meta related, no. I refuse to give anyone information on what I have with people's meta because I don't want to give them a way to adapt and fuck me over in future games.

I like to keep my advantages on people so that I can at least look good if I catch them as a wolf and help them out when I find them as town and work with them.

What I mean is, when you are town, do you normally have trouble giving reasons to your reads, or is it just this game?

Well recently, as in the last 3 or 4 months after I took a sight break from mafia, I've been having trouble with 1. Explaining my reads and 2. Actually gaining anything I'm reading during the games in order to form a read on people.

It's also been kinda rough for me because I've had some really really shitty performances as town the entire time. For multiple reasons. And I haven't been given much help beyond "you should take a break!" in terms of what I should be doing to help me out of this fucking horrific spell which is fucking useless because I sorta want to actually play and it gives me no actual advice.

I get it- sometimes we need a refresh. I’ve been very out of it and I don’t share my personal life on the internet but I’ll have you know I was very much away dealing with the hardest year of my life towards the end of last year, and just felt like now was a good time where I feel even slightly stabilized. Not quite there yet, but dipping my toes in. Still don’t feel comfortable but it is what it is.

My advice right now is to solve the game as if you weren’t having to defend yourself ad nauseum. That was part of why I jumped off you so you could do your thing on your own time.

For @EVERYONE, this game is supposed to be a fun time, and it’s very easy to forget that if things aren’t going your way in the game; which they won’t always. This isn’t a talking down, but a gentle reminder for those in the back, that nothing is permanent here, and we all have our own reasons for playing, but there will be winners and losers. I use my losses as a learning experience to try and get better, and if that still doesn’t work, I just go with the flow and play to have fun.

[Scotty]

So dunya came in, noticed she had a train, and then left. I am at work without phone access until end of day most likely so I feel pretty good leaving my vote on her. She seems cooked fam, no cap no cap, skibbidi toilet and all that bullhonkey

[Le petit poussin]

So dunya came in, noticed she had a train, and then left. I am at work without phone access until end of day most likely so I feel pretty good leaving my vote on her. She seems cooked fam, no cap no cap, skibbidi toilet and all that bullhonkey

yes. locked scum in anti-spew friendos.

Which means there are a gazillion of folks who will be lock town tmr (including me :curtain: ) if that's actually the case.

I may or may not leak stuff into the thread closer to EOD because of it.

glgl

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm not gonna talk about thunal all day, I realize I'm in tunnel territory so when I'm on my.laptop I'll focus on wisdom teammates. I forgot for a second wisdom flipped wolf so I'm just looking for two lol

Oooooooh man.

I kinda think there's no world where LPP derptells (real or fake) not knowing Wisdom died, w!Dunya calls that scummy and then turns around and fake derptells forgetting the number of wolves remaining.

Otoh, actually forgetting Wisdom is dead two seconds after its been talked about ought to be NAI.

I think forgetting Wisdom died is weird. I wouldn't forget a wolf died as town but I also wouldn't forget a wolf died as a wolf.

Dunya is 3p? half joking

I mean, yeah, mafia dying is most forgettable to a 3P role that doesn't give a damn about if wolves or townies die. Uncle Rico isn't necessarily that kinda 3P but all townies and wolves should know and care.

This is actually the most likely scenario now that I think about it. Which eliminates my qualifier of (if dunya bad, lime coke good) because if dunya is 3p, there is no link to lime coke

Wait why would a scumflip on Dunya be good for Lime?

The initial case on Dunya was a Dunya+Lime wolfteam.

[Le petit poussin]

Mafia

Has BTSC. Kills each Night.

requoting because we had some discussion about it at SOD. mafia did submit NKs friendos.

[Spacedaisy]

Man... that was an intense catchup

[Le petit poussin]

Man... that was an intense catchup

any hindsights for the class?

[Spacedaisy]

Instead of ISOing, I ended up spending time with my sister, researching publications I might submit some work to, and doomscrolling while I laid in bed before I fell asleep after more hours than I care to admit.

Now I'm back and I've no freaking idea where I want to vote. But I'll start where I know I don't want to vote.

I'm not voting Jack. His return to the game after that flip looked very towny to me. So many people pushing the inactive mafia theory was pingy af. I think it's highly likely there were protections/role blocks at play.

I'm not voting DDL. Suspected him at the start, but once I figured out where the breakdown in communication was (my fault) I find him super town

Never voting SVS.

I've zero feelings Lime Coke. I don't see someone particularly wolfy. I don't care for the outburst, because I just enjoy the game less, but I also am not giving him credit for it, because he gets upset no matter alignment iirc. It's NAI to me, and also, I'm not interested in judging his alignment based on his AtE responses.

Thunal doesn't look great for her reaction to Wisdom, but neither do I so I don't know what I think there. I will ISO her today.

For now, I'm tossing my vote on [VOTE: dunya] aubergine because she has never once tried to actually solve me. She's never poked at me or asked me anything directly. I dunno. Not sure I'll stay here, but I want to at least put a vote down incase I don't get back in time and it's the one I feel most comfortable with.

[Le petit poussin]

hey Daisy, EOD is in 2 hours and half or so, just so u have it in mind. (I see u mentionning willingness to ISO today)

Ill be watching soccer myself. @ me if u need anything meanwhile. I am fine with either Brad or Dun. (not moving rn but will if needed)

[dunya]

so, i have an hour and a half. how can i convince you im town even tho i'm not too bothered if i have to go to move on with the game

really sorry guys, my life with kids week is hectic and draining and i have not realistically juggled it well so no more forum mafia for me

[dunya]

I'm not voting Jack. His return to the game after that flip looked very towny to me. So many people pushing the inactive mafia theory was pingy af. I think it's highly likely there were protections/role blocks at play.

i don't think jack has any of his usual town spunk and hard pushes imo. just how he handled me is enough for me to feel something off. so take what i say with a grain of salt, but my instincts are usually good.

so yeah please do look into him tomorrow.

[Jibay]

[VOTE: JiBay] aubergine because I can

This time i will not follow you,

Sorry hard time to follow , lot of work and kids
sometimes i wish i was wolf to eat them to have more time

do you have any question i will answer it

[dunya]

i did iso lime coke, and came to the great conclusion he and Jack are not aligned.

unlike thunal's posts, i felt sincerity from Lime Coke and maybe it's just a bond we share, but every game we've played together we've town melded easily or i was mafia. i don't think he's ever been mafia against me, so either he's very good at imitating his town play or this is Just Town Brad.

[dunya]

Remember when Lime Coke was top wagon?

good times.

don't set LC as the next mischop.

i'm not just looking at LPP for that, but like, pay attention to anyone who's gonna do that.

[dunya]

[VOTE: JiBay] aubergine because I can

This time i will not follow you,

that was two days ago.

[dunya]

Remember when Lime Coke was top wagon?

good times.

don't set LC as the next mischop.

i'm not just looking at LPP for that, but like, pay attention to anyone who's gonna do that.

pay attention to DDL who set me and Lime Coke up for yeets, started with saying his whole case on me starts with yeeting lime. now he's yeeting me, so he can say oh so it's lime.

[dunya]

do you have any question i will answer it

the point of forum mafia is to DECIDE who you think is mafia. so, please open a random page and read it and see what catches your attention and comment on it or ask someone a question or something.

[Spacedaisy]

I started an ISO of Thunal and honestly, the fact that she broke a tie in favor of Wisdom seems to tell me that she is town. The person she said she was protecting was Lime Coke. I just don’t see that being the play in that scenario of a wolf. I dunno if this makes sense, but it does in my head. She had already been under suspicion too and I don’t really understand why. There was maybe one post that felt a little pingy to me where she said something about, oh I do this no matter my alignment. That kind of statement always feels a little like a wolf caught for the wrong reason to me. Otherwise, her reads seemed pretty natural and her reasoning seemed pretty understandable to me.

[Spacedaisy]

I might move back to Long Con and do an ISO of him. My gut feels a bit nervous about this wagon now.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[dunya]

syn is still a town read.

LPP can be town or 3p, i don't think he's mafia.

thunal is still a bad tone read for me, but yeah maybe i'm just wrong.

Long Con after day 1 shines as town imo.

scotty ... i find hard to read cos this must be the second game we ever played together if not first? and i don't remember much if we did play together before. if i had to guess it was him who shot wisdom tho so he can go on town.

[Le petit poussin]

[VOTE: JiBay] aubergine because I can

This time i will not follow you,

Sorry hard time to follow , lot of work and kids
sometimes i wish i was wolf to eat them to have more time

do you have any question i will answer it

ISO dunya and tell me what you think (not what she did, but her alignment in your opinion, preferably laying down your reasoning - no need for an essay pal) please JB.

My advice wrt kids:



It has worked great for me so far. (they might a bit slower now, but considering their father, nobody blinks)

[Thunal33]

I might move back to Long Con and do an ISO of him. My gut feels a bit nervous about this wagon now.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con is town, find somewhere else to vote.

[dunya]

For now, I'm tossing my vote on [VOTE: dunya] aubergine because she has never once tried to actually solve me. She's never poked at me or asked me anything directly. I dunno.

that's true for you and others tbh...i've dragged behind on this game. i did ask what everyone thought of you cos you were one of the people i didn't solve and didn't see much discussion around, but liked you on day 1 and everyone seemed to have a post of yours they liked so everyone was like "good vibes daisy" .. you're one of the people everyone townreads that thunal is jealous of. im jealous of you.

[Thunal33]

syn is still a town read.

LPP can be town or 3p, i don't think he's mafia.

thunal is still a bad tone read for me, but yeah maybe i'm just wrong.

Long Con after day 1 shines as town imo.

scotty ... i find hard to read cos this must be the second game we ever played together if not first? and i don't remember much if we did play together before. if i had to guess it was him who shot wisdom tho so he can go on town.

Why are you maybe just wrong on me?

[dunya]

I might move back to Long Con and do an ISO of him. My gut feels a bit nervous about this wagon now.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con is town, find somewhere else to vote.

i see now im sorry for not finding you

[dunya]

syn is still a town read.

LPP can be town or 3p, i don't think he's mafia.

thunal is still a bad tone read for me, but yeah maybe i'm just wrong.

Long Con after day 1 shines as town imo.

scotty ... i find hard to read cos this must be the second game we ever played together if not first? and i don't remember much if we did play together before. if i had to guess it was him who shot wisdom tho so he can go on town.

Why are you maybe just wrong on me?

cos maybe long con is right.

[Thunal33]

I’m really worried about being wrong again so it’s super easy for me to get cold feet on Dunya. I don’t think I can trust my EoD judgment so I’m staying where I was when I was less nervous but other people can vote where they feel as long as it’s not my town reads.

[dunya]

jibay seems clueless about everything and honestly, if he had a mafia team of wisdom + x i'd be surprised if he'd be this disengaged? he seems like lonely lost villager or...lonely lost indy. too many 3p shortlists.

@Scotty

[Le petit poussin]

I started an ISO of Thunal and honestly, the fact that she broke a tie in favor of Wisdom seems to tell me that she is town. The person she said she was protecting was Lime Coke. I just don’t see that being the play in that scenario of a wolf. I dunno if this makes sense, but it does in my head. She had already been under suspicion too and I don’t really understand why. There was maybe one post that felt a little pingy to me where she said something about, oh I do this no matter my alignment. That kind of statement always feels a little like a wolf caught for the wrong reason to me. Otherwise, her reads seemed pretty natural and her reasoning seemed pretty understandable to me.

Whats your read on Lime Coke? Sounds like you are townreading the slot but can't remember your previous posts about him.

[dunya]

@Jackofhearts2005 what was the nanook town tell thing?

[dunya]

@Le petit poussin do you think lime is mafia with me or Independent of me?