Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Le petit poussin]

I'd be more inclined to think Long Con is the last wolf over Scotty and especially over Daisy

Nanook and Scotty are my 3p reads

what do you think of her pushing you and me? I get lolvillage but its irking me out ngl.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Put nook on the "likely 3P" list tbh.

And save that list in a very safe place.

Seriously, underestinate Epi's indies at your own risk.

[Lime Coke]

There's a chance Long Con was trying to pocket me in order to get towns yeeted...tbh it's shocking people don't try this as mafia but eh... he was sorta hamming it up but I didn't care at the time...I could care now.

I'm hesitant to voting him because of the LC connection... which at this rate is basically just cheap ass WIFI.

[Le petit poussin]

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[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

TBH I feel like Long Con and DDL have like the same playstyle, aka find some sort of push with a decent amount of explanation...LC is more direct towards players I guess is the main difference?

This game DDL has been massively active, LC is a bit more spotty and I don't remember much of a push from him but I may need to check him to see if I missed hard on that assessment.

[Le petit poussin]

about Roxy, she does look like another ML attempt reading dunya's D1. not voting her out.

[Lime Coke]

dunya voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Roxy, S~V~S, Syn

Jackofhearts2005 voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, Lime Coke, dunya, Thunal33

Lime Coke voters: Jibay, Le petit poussin, Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33 voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Quoting to have this in sight immediately.

Fucking different page.

[Lime Coke]

Town:
Dragon
Syn
Jibay
Roxy

Townlean:
Jack
Nanook


Sus:
LC

[Le petit poussin]

TBH I feel like Long Con and DDL have like the same playstyle, aka find some sort of push with a decent amount of explanation...LC is more direct towards players I guess is the main difference?

This game DDL has been massively active, LC is a bit more spotty and I don't remember much of a push from him but I may need to check him to see if I missed hard on that assessment.

this is the gist of my sus tbh. No hard pushes but awfull pushes smh (Jack? lol. he even replied "fingers crossed" when I called him out EOD3. I remembered thinking "jester" at the time lol). I TRed him out of his excellent tone and something something (which isn't clearing though), but I guess it cannot hold me that long.

[Lime Coke]

That shouldn't have been posted yet.

Spaced
LPP
Scotty
Thunal

Am I missing anyone?

[Lime Coke]

Scooter can be left alone.

Thunal... I don't want to iso but I might have to.

LPP towny

Spaced also might need to read iso.

[Le petit poussin]

Daisy iirc

[Le petit poussin]

Daisy iirc

oh nvm. SpaceD is Daisy lol me.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Scooter can be left alone.

Thunal... I don't want to iso but I might have to.

LPP towny

Spaced also might need to read iso.

Thunal looked uber townie while defending I forgot who last day phase. That's just my opinion but I like it.

[Le petit poussin]

what I disliked about Long Con is that he actually made the Jack wagon happened, putting it at 2 despite all total absence of case on the slot.

If you think 2 minutes about mafia theory and how to village properly.

You don't start a random wagon D3 at EOD minus 20 when all the day has been about 2 slots (namely dunya and you Lime Coke). You don't do that especially when nobody (I swear nobody) even voiced or articulated a sus on Jack (please post/quote if I am wrong on this, memory could be failing me).

Why?

Because it's so rand. I means you have rouhgly 20% to hit a wolf with it. (from a village pov, actually it's less because you are handing out undeserved kp to wolves but anyway, lets keep it simple). So you won't most of the time.

What happens the next day? You just repeat D-1 trying to resolve the slots you were allready talking about (strenghtened by the fact these slots most likely joined said wagon because heh, u gotta survive). But you lost minimum 2 villagers doing it.

Hence why I posted people were throwing yesterDay.

So.

I am pretty sure Long Con is very aware of all of this. He doesn't sound like an idiot or a noob. Yet he happiliy made it happen. NGL I am annoyed at Daisy for joining like she did too. Thunal I just think was hard pocketed by Dunya.

get them people

[Le petit poussin]

Scooter can be left alone.

Thunal... I don't want to iso but I might have to.

LPP towny

Spaced also might need to read iso.

Thunal looked uber townie while defending I forgot who last day phase. That's just my opinion but I like it.

yeah lol

she was defending herself (pretending she was soooo clooose from voting out wisdom lmao) and dunya for lol tone. I just don't think she does that the way she did as a wolf. (if so you are a goat wolf Thunal lmao)

[Le petit poussin]

what I disliked about Long Con is that he actually made the Jack wagon happened, putting it at 2 despite the total absence of case on the slot.

If you think 2 minutes about mafia theory and how to village properly.

You don't start a random wagon D3 at EOD minus 20 when all the day has been about 2 slots (namely dunya and you Lime Coke). You don't do that especially when nobody (I swear nobody) even voiced or articulated a sus on Jack (please post/quote if I am wrong on this, memory could be failing me).

Why?

Because it's so rand. I mean you have rouhgly 20% chance to hit a wolf with it. (from a village pov, actually it's less because you are handing out undeserved kp to wolves but anyway, lets keep it simple). So you won't most of the time.

What happens the next day? You just repeat D-1 trying to resolve the slots you were allready talking about (strenghtened by the fact these slots most likely joined said wagon because heh, u gotta survive). But you lost minimum 2 villagers doing it.

Hence why I posted people were throwing yesterDay.

So.

I am pretty sure Long Con is very aware of all of this. He doesn't sound like an idiot or a noob. Yet he happilly made it happen. NGL I am annoyed at Daisy for joining like she did too. Thunal I just think was hard pocketed by Dunya.

get them people

EBWOP (removed some typos, sorry native speaker, I am just bad at it. but you get the idea)

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Just checked. "You kknow who" is Lime.

Thunal looked town from relentlessly defending him because there was a talk, mostly pushed by dunya, that either her or Lime was mafia after D2. And people seemed to be buying it on D3. I don't think wolf Thunal takes that and goes hard defense on Lime. That's some pretty shitty teamwork by the wolves if it's true.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Roxy/syn/thun poe probably, idk if it's good but

It feels good at least

Long Con cause I get a 4th

Don't forget there is an indie. We may have to hunt them after we take down the last mafia.

Yeah but that's a concern for after the mafia are dead barring a slip

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Just checked. "You kknow who" is Lime.

Thunal looked town from relentlessly defending him because there was a talk, mostly pushed by dunya, that either her or Lime was mafia after D2. And people seemed to be buying it on D3. I don't think wolf Thunal takes that and goes hard defense on Lime. That's some pretty shitty teamwork by the wolves if it's true.

Tbf wiz and Dunia dying is also pretty shit wolf play!

[Lime Coke]

Spoiler: show

Immediately interacts with 2 wolves.

Defends Wisdom a bit, chainsaw defends and goes after Scotty a bit in her notes.

Does drop Wisdom stuff but townreads DDL and SVS

Has Dunya and Wisdom in towny list

Had Falcon towny early... ends up voting Falcon at EOD saying he's missing his town fire...

Shades Wisdom for having her in towns list for not having enough paranoia on her.

Has a read on SVS that helps in hindsight, has the read through meta reasons.
Like this since it's something I know Thunal will do as town.

Starts Day 2 scumreading Wisdom.
Votes me instead though and it's around the time people were talking about me and right after DDL cased both Dunya and I...

Votes Wisdom after seeing me post on Day 2, talks about her wanting her voted out above me at least.

SVS I just saw in a post that Thunal was quoting that SVS was thinking Thunal was the towniest person in the thread... now I feel like just sheeping this so I can stop... and that's what I'm gonna do...

Welcome to a moment in history...

TLDR Thunal town.

[Lime Coke]

Like Thunal's iso starts off rough but she brings it back entirely with Day 2 and yeah...

[Le petit poussin]

One pro wrt Long Con is that Dunya did stick to her guns and voted him D1. (he was at 3 when Falcon was chopped at 4 votes)

... And Daisy voted there too. Damn lol. This game might be harder than what I initially thought (they always are :curtain:)

[Le petit poussin]

actually

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

[Spacedaisy]

I'd be more inclined to think Long Con is the last wolf over Scotty and especially over Daisy

Nanook and Scotty are my 3p reads

what do you think of her pushing you and me? I get lolvillage but its irking me out ngl.

I never pushed Syn. I think there is no world he’s wolf with Dunia based on some of their interactions.

[Le petit poussin]

I'd be more inclined to think Long Con is the last wolf over Scotty and especially over Daisy

Nanook and Scotty are my 3p reads

what do you think of her pushing you and me? I get lolvillage but its irking me out ngl.

I never pushed Syn. I think there is no world he’s wolf with Dunia based on some of their interactions.

why is he in your POE? did I make this up? (let me check)

[Spacedaisy]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

[Le petit poussin]

he is in your POE (tbf you added "giving that 3p energy"). I think I will reread your ISO because tbh I liked my town read on your slot but events since EOD3 are throwing me off.

[Le petit poussin]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

u posted that toDay? (maybe u are saying the truth, but your "at one point" doesn't sound like the correct wording for describing what you posted and when)

[Spacedaisy]

My POE was based on how J was interpreting game interactions, not suspicions/vibes either.

That said, DDL felt as though he was claiming to know Lime Coke was good, which made me think they were masons who found each other. But then Lime Coke came in baffled by it. That annoys me because now my read is shot.

I suspected Long Con for his behavior most of the game until it became clear that people were seeing something I was missing and when I went back and looked I thought I saw some breadcrumbs but now people are suspecting him again? Wtf is even happening here.

What I know is I am an easy push here. But there is no chance I’m ever actively discussing creating a flash wagon to protect my wolf partner in the thread with like twenty minutes left or whatever it was. That’s fucking suicide as a wolf and the fact that’s not obvious to you is wolfy af.

If you guys gotta resolve me, so be it. We have the numbers, it won’t kill us. But LPP’s end of day and his interactions with Dunya previous to that look shady as hell.

I also don’t think Scotty should be off the table.

[Lime Coke]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?

[Spacedaisy]

So my takeaway, looking at how Dunya interacted with my POE list is that it’s never Syn and probably not Roxy. That was a genuine flare up between them and I don’t see that happening between teammates who have BTSC.

[Spacedaisy]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?

He voted me? I’m pretty sure he was on Nook when I made my posts.

[Le petit poussin]

What I know is I am an easy push here. But there is no chance I’m ever actively discussing creating a flash wagon to protect my wolf partner in the thread with like twenty minutes left or whatever it was. That’s fucking suicide as a wolf and the fact that’s not obvious to you is wolfy af.

ok let me tell you what I think for real: this isn't true. Maybe you believe it, but it's not. As a wolf, you can get away with anything.

Proof: you are calling me wolfy af for even suspecting you. So how doing that as a wolf is suicide since you are pushing me for sussing it?

Do you see that what you are posting isn't slightly logical?

I am not sure if you are doing it on purpose but you are wolfy too frienda.


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As to my behavioiur wrt Dunya: yes we are friends. so we might be more chatty than what you would expect, it's not AI.

YOu are forgetting she voted me about 46 hours out of 48. Ofc nobody joined so she had to do something else. You are forgetting that I explained to people why she was a wolf. not in one post, but I made several ones explaining how several stuff she did were coming from a wolf.

The fact she had 8 or 9 votes at EOD minus 2 hours did impact the way I played that EOD. For me she was dead. I didn't need cred, I am not a wolf. I was allready solving outside of her. when I saw that wagon it just annoyed me, I posted to stop it. when I realised it was actually at 5 it was 10:00 pm for me (deadline) I did 3 other posts but didn't vote. Sue me.

Also DDL. Read my ISO. I saw his breadcrumbs D3. I posted about it, doing the same thing he did to confuse wolves, because he was so obvious somehow. He didn't die. SVS did. SVS was fitting in my pocket. (the opposite is true too lol). I never make that kill.


I can dig posts. I'd rather have people due their due diligence because it's all in the thread allready and I don't wanna cluster it for raisins. but come on.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I dont think scotty should be off the table but I've felt good about him all game. Maybe he pocketed me though.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't ever make that SVS kill either. She was my first guess for Tina. Which leaves me wondering if/which mafia would think the same.

[Lime Coke]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?

He voted me? I’m pretty sure he was on Nook when I made my posts.

Oh I thought you were talking about Dunya there...disregard.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Spacedaisy]

What I know is I am an easy push here. But there is no chance I’m ever actively discussing creating a flash wagon to protect my wolf partner in the thread with like twenty minutes left or whatever it was. That’s fucking suicide as a wolf and the fact that’s not obvious to you is wolfy af.

ok let me tell you what I think for real: this isn't true. Maybe you believe it, but it's not. As a wolf, you can get away with anything.

Proof: you are calling me wolfy af for even suspecting you. So how doing that as a wolf is suicide since you are pushing me for sussing it?

Do you see that what you are posting isn't slightly logical?

I am not sure if you are doing it on purpose but you are wolfy too frienda.


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As to my behavioiur wrt Dunya: yes we are friends. so we might be more chatty than what you would expect, it's not AI.

YOu are forgetting she voted me about 46 hours out of 48. Ofc nobody joined so she had to do something else. You are forgetting that I explained to people why she was a wolf. not in one post, but I made several ones explaining how several stuff she did were coming from a wolf.

The fact she had 8 or 9 votes at EOD minus 2 hours did impact the way I played that EOD. For me she was dead. I didn't need cred, I am not a wolf. I was allready solving outside of her. when I saw that wagon it just annoyed me, I posted to stop it. when I realised it was actually at 5 it was 10:00 pm for me (deadline) I did 3 other posts but didn't vote. Sue me.

Also DDL. Read my ISO. I saw his breadcrumbs D3. I posted about it, doing the same thing he did to confuse wolves, because he was so obvious somehow. He didn't die. SVS did. SVS was fitting in my pocket. (the opposite is true too lol). I never make that kill.


I can dig posts. I'd rather have people due their due diligence because it's all in the thread allready and I don't wanna cluster it for raisins. but come on.

I don’t think you’re wolfy because you suspect me. I stated this day with vague good feels about you for no specific reason. I suspect you for your actions.

It’s not because you were chatty with her. It’s because that’s all there is really between you. Neither of you tried to solve the other at all. You want me to hand you civ credit because a wolf with 8 votes on her put a passing vote on you, then moved to where she could get traction to possibly save herself? No.

Any wolf makes the SVS kill. She was basically confirmed town. Also I have no idea what breadcrumbs you’re talking about with DDL. Clearly not something I’ve seen.

[Spacedaisy]

Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?

He voted me? I’m pretty sure he was on Nook when I made my posts.

Oh I thought you were talking about Dunya there...disregard.

Oh! My bad. I misunderstood what you were saying.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Thunal33 seemed pretty sure Long was town. I wonder why.

[Spacedaisy]

LPP you want cred for trying to stop the wagon moving from Dunya to Jack, but you literally just had to move your vote over to Dunya to do that and you didn’t which tells me you didn’t want her yeeted. You didn’t try to stop anything.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Spacedaisy

Any wolf who is not being steamrolled by a combination of two masons, a tracker and a jailkeeper makes the SVS kill.

But a wolf who is might be desperate to hit those first. The clock is running down to a town win.

That said I may be projecting, because I'm not sure if more people beside me thought SVS were Tina. It wasn't THAT confirmed.

[Spacedaisy]

If you really believed the stuff you are saying you would have moved that vote. The end. This is why I suspect you. This is why my vote is on you.

[Le petit poussin]

LPP you want cred for trying to stop the wagon moving from Dunya to Jack, but you literally just had to move your vote over to Dunya to do that and you didn’t which tells me you didn’t want her yeeted. You didn’t try to stop anything.

at this point I don't think you have read the thread tbh. Same wrt the breadcrumb thing.

here

I will always try to put a secret code into my posts for after I die, if I happen to have the role for it. For future reference.

In my early years I often also had a code that would only be revealed if a specific situation occurred that I needed to claim for posterity. I might still do that, but won’t reveal what it is unless I have to

I like making unexpected acronyms, or the ol' tiny-text trick!

I think I'd be more subtle than that since I'd be afraid of breaking the rules, but I would also fear my code not being found, so I would try to post the hints early in the phase, and probably insert them in some big posts I think most people would read.

brah.

I'd put them in my first read post of the day too. Like unexplained lock town read.

anyway, I am not sure I can convince you wrt my EOD play. It's OK. We broke Stuttgart into pieces so me being pushed because not focused on the thread was all worth it hehe.

The only thing that matters to me rn is that Rex protects DDL tonight. (I ll repost that closer to EOD anyway)
We have some leeway regarding ML so it's not a big deal.

[Le petit poussin]

If you really believed the stuff you are saying you would have moved that vote. The end. This is why I suspect you. This is why my vote is on you.

I didn't realise the VC was what it was till deadline.

Feel free to ignore all the posts to call dunya a wolf.
Feel free to lock yourself in some expected behaviour wrt me IRL (not even my slot, u are assuming stuff about me, the human being lol)
Feel free to skip all the other towny things I've done this game (my 180 on THunal? while she is such an ez lime? ignored; me shileding Long Con D3? ignored. Me covering DDL? ignored. Me yeeling Jack is a bad wagon? OMG IGNORED etc etc)

lol daisy. raw rand

[Le petit poussin]

*Feel free to ignore all the posts I made to call dunya a wolf.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Rex is dead

[Le petit poussin]

that's red friend. red is dead. (seriously I need to check the flips, didn't realise)

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The dumbtell olympics is very competitive this year. Everyone wanting a shot at the gold medal.