Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:11 pm
I also made another big post (yes, I was gambling really hard on not dying N2. Also I was bored).
You all needed it, so I'm coming down with it.
EVERYONE'S INTERACTIONS WITH WISDOM
(without quotes, because again, the JJJ-level budget is no longer available)
First of all, the wolf herself:
- Wisdom
D1: says I'm town when I accuse her. Cases Syn and votes him. Names me, Lime and Thunal as main town reads, and Syn/Long Com as main wolves. Continues to defend me and Thunal. Votes falcon for no reason. Defends herself against SVS multiple times.
Posts a reads list: me and Thunal main town reads, Lime not sure anymore, dunya lean town, Syn neutral, falcon bad, inactives bad.
Says Lime being nice to dunya is NAI. Leans town on Scotty. Says she would yeet Roxy or falcon over Scotty. Announces SVS is a townread. Agrees with her negative take on falcon. Gets cold feet on falcon wagon. But mentions she thinks it's pure. Questions Jack on his town read of Long Con and says she is considering voting there.
Posts another reads list. Main townies are me, SVS and Thunal, main wolves are falcon, LC/LC and moto. Tries to start a flash wagon on DADV, and votes moto. States she would feel bad about misyeeting Lime.
D2: low activity, stating RL reasons. Mostly self-defense. Throws shade on Moto again. Asks dunya for a daisy read. Makes a weak town read of Roxy. Votes moto again. When questioned by Thunal on Lime, says she's null on him. "I had him as town but I dunno, I want more on him". LPP is "town for bad reasons". Arrives right as the day ends, says she is not moving to Thunal after the vote locked.
Next, all the possible teammate candidates. I'll be listing how each person talked about/with Wisdom, then being up a summary of what Wisdom said about them. Finally, I'll provided a GTH read of them, considering only they relationship with Wisdom. GTH means either town or mafia, no null reads allowed.
1- SVS
from her: Calls wisdom manipulative on D0 and again D1. Argues with her. Ends up voting falcon. D2 brings it up again and votes her after naming her among a few options. Suspects dunya for defending wisdom. Continues to attack Wisdom. Is the last one to drop her wagon when it's clear it won't take off.
GTH: town (solid casing and pursuit from SVS. Lots of defenses from Wisdom, seems like pocketing. Since she also defends me and I know that's pocketing, it could be a pattern)
2 - dunya:
from her: D1:asks Wisdom some questions. Agrees with a post from SVS suspecting her. Discusses reads with Wisdom a few times. Says Lime isn't wolf with Wisdom or Roxy. Is friendly about her emotions. Says Lime is wishy-washy on Wisdom.
D2: Attacks a post from Thunal suspecting Wisdom, while also speculating they could be w/w. Discusses more cases with Wisdom. Later soft defends wisdom against Thunal. Replies to a post from Wisdom asking who is responsible for he moto yeet, and accuses Thunal 1st and Lime 2nd.
GTH: wolf (losts of posts that could be friendly Wolf banter, dunya throws some shade but not strongly and prioritizes other people. Also makes some defenses. Wisdom leans town on her too.)
3. jibay:
from him: no mention
from Wisdom: no mention. Appears neutral on reads lists.
GTH: wolf (no mention is wolfy, though low post count kind of explains it on his side)
4. nanook
from him: calls wisdom town early, doesn't have a reason. Pushes other wagons
from Wisdom: no mention. Appears neutral on reads lists.
GTH: wolf (calling a teammate town early is ballsy, but the lack of mentions afterwards even when inquired by other people is wolfy. No mention from Wisdom is wolfy)
5. roxy
from her: builds a case early, mentions she suspects her a few times, votes her in the end of D1. mentions she still want to vote wisdom D2, though ends up voting herself.
from Wisdom: soft town read once. Appears neutral on reads lists.
GTH: town (good D1 from Roxy. D2 isn't great but it seemed like a personal thing. Low mention from Wisdom is wolfy though.)
6. daisy
from her: expresses doubt about the wisdom wagon early D2 in a big post, but says she will double check. Later on mentions her again in another big post, leaning mafia
from Wisdom: interacts, but doesn't talk of her. Appears neutral on reads lists.
GTH: wolf (easy for Daisy to put wisdom suspicions in the middle of big posts, but not vote there. Low mentions from Wisdom is wolfy.)
7. lime
from him: soft defense of wisdom D1, implying he considered yeeting her but explaining why he won't. Never mentions her again.
from Wisdom: all over the place. Initially defends, then flips all the way to a main suspect, then later calls him null and doesn't acknowledge ving him as a main suspect before.
GTH: wolf (soft defense by Lime D1 and lack of mention on D2. Wisdom could be setting a misyeet on him, but she is never quite focusing on him for that)
8. LPP:
from him: asks Wisdom about her opinion. Promises a few times to other people he will provide a wisdom reason eventually. Never does.
from Wisdom: little mention, though he was inactive D1 when she was active. One soft town post.
GTH: wolf (LPP seems aware of her but never actually commiting to a read, which is wolfy. Wisdom didn't quite have the timing to talk about him so her side is null)
9. Syn
from him: states he doesn't want wisdom killed D1, no explanation. Repeats D2, again no explanation
GTH: town (Syn a bit too ballsy for teammates. The Wisdom side is tricky, she cases him earlier then just forgets about him)
10. Jack
from him: Makes GTH read that I'm a wolf with Wisdom. Changes his mind a while later. Agrees with a post from SVS casing Wisdom. Explains his LC town read to Wisdom when questioned. Later on states that he disagrees with people's defense of Wisdom, though he is willing to wait another day to vote. Says he has na "uninspired" scum read on her.
GTH: town (not strong on it, but Jack is suspecting her from diferente angles and bringing it up again. She doesn't go after Jack much though, which is wolfy)
11. Long Con:
from him: no mention
GTH: Wolf (no mention from LC is wolfy, even more with a higher post count. The Wisdom side is null, she throws shade a few times but doesn't really pursue)
12. thunal:
from her: D1: Earlier calls her town, comparing to her own previous xperiences being suspected. Later on is surprised Wisdom is townreading her, discusses reads with her.
D2: suspects Wisdom for her comment on falcon. Says she is aware she looks w/w with Wisdom but states her opinion has changed. Says Scotty is towny for agreeing on Wisdom. Says Wisdom is her 2nd main suspect (Lime is 1st) and votes Lime. Questions nanook on his Wisdom townread. Says she is not sure on Wisdom anymore. Changes her mind on Lime and moves to Wisdom. Makes an ISO of Wisdom and decides she changed her mind on her too. Votes Long Con. Speculates on her again, saying she could be either alignment.
GTH: town (Thunal's day 1 is bad, day 2 is better, but the main thing is that she brings a lot of attention to Wisdom, often negative. Wisdom's side could be pocketing or maybe she threw a scummate in the mix)
13. Scotty:
from him: D1: early joke vote on Wisdom. Agrees with me on a Wisdom suspicion. Agrees with Wisdom on a town DDL read. Builds a case against her. Argues about it with Thunal. Continues to mention her as a suspect. Mindmelds with SVS on that. Implies Wisdom could be 3P. Later says Wisdom's posts feel good, but suspects her lack of mention of him. Then says he keeps suspecting her, though he's aware he's voting with her elsewhere.
D2: says Wisdom could have TMI for trying a flash wagon. Says she and Thunal could be w/w. Continues to case her. Accepts Wisdom's meta defense. Brings up the flash wagon again. Votes Wisdom. Then finds a post from Wisdom that he believes absolves her, and unvotes. Later says he hasn't made his mind on her yet. Then posts a tier list with Wisdom as one of the main suspects. Votes her again. Questions Nanook's defense of her. Suspects other people for townreading her with no explanation. Before leaving lists her among a list of possible votes. Votes Syn.
GTH: town (Scotty is not as sure as SVS, but cases her a lot and keeps bringing up attention to her. From Wisdom there are some townreads, though not as involved as me/SVS/Thunal, so that side is null.)
GTH results:
town:
DDL (
)
SVS
Scotty
Thunal
Syn
Roxy
Jack
mafia:
Lime
nanook
dunya
LPP
Jibay
daisy
Long Con
So obviously there are no 7 wolves, but I tried to ignore setup proportion when picking the reads, to capture what I really feel. This does mean I don't intend to touch those people in the Town list, unless someone can convince me to change my mind on those interactions.
There are some weirdnessess here too, like Syn getting a town read for defending Wisdom and nanook not getting it after defending one, but feeling plays a role here. I think one w/w defense is feasible, and Nanook is the kind of troll who might do it. Two defenses on different days is VERY bold, and I'm not sure if Syn would do it.
Daisy looks bad-ish in this list, but otherwise I've been feeling her pretty town. I kind of liked Long Con in D2 too.
Anyway, I really want to kill Lime here. I've been suspecting him for a while, his Day 2 is the worst ever and he doesn't look great interacting with our known flipped wolf.
Otherwise I'd be ok with yeeting Nanook, dunya, LPP or Jibay.
[VOTE:
Lime Coke] aubergine
Don't be!
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