The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[Porscha]

reallky can't think of a better situation for a wolf other than a town defending them and then said town getting scumread for it while he sits there doing nothing and looking pretty and not being inquisitive about it whatsoever lol. he knows if he flips I just made myself look paired as shit. worst case scenario it's like, 1 for 1. i'm never standing up for anybody ever again

[Porscha]

make it make sense please

By my estimation, people that post just this have an ulterior motive.

Filing this for later

people would say that to me when I said "make it make sense" and i was literally always town when i said it lol

pushing for logical conclusions that "make sense" to the requester is just normal human behavior lol

[Porscha]

Cape90 - town
DrWilgy - town
Long Con - town
Michelle - town
Porscha - town
S~V~S - town
Scotty - town


That's what I believe

Cool

Cool

Bye

There’s no way that’s all right.

Of those, I’d flip Wilgy, Long Con and Porscha.

I go back and forth on Long Con. He’s had some posts that stand out as a bit too pointed in the response to Abbi, but I can’t exactly say it has a wolfy reasoning behind it. I just DONT KNOW

Why can't it all be right?

scotty has tmi (or is town and doesnt agree)

I think the first one is funnier

[Porscha]

Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W

3 bottom of the barrel posters and then me and scotty are wolves together. truly brilliant falcon, you've out done yourself this time

[Porscha]

@Scotty I asked for a list and you didn't would be the reason



Would you like one? I'll give ya one! No problemo, ez pz



And! I'll even give ya GTH list that I won't also hedge by saying it's bad

I feel like this post is a thinly veiled sarcasm bomb directed at me, and I can’t tell if you actually suspect me or are just ca-cawing

Dude!



IIt's not thinly veiled at all

this is hilarious though. carry on

(my wayward son)

[Porscha]

Vote: sig

Finally a wagon i can get behind

Preface: we should not do a D1 sig yeet. History says it’s a bad idea and this is not the vision of success if we are wrong.

But I’m down to sit here for a bit longee

wtf skawty you literaturally just responded to my post where i said i wanted to wait in regards to sig and you were like "weh why wait? just make votes, have big balls, etc" and then you get another page deep and you are saying these ^^^^^^ things. smh

[Porscha]

Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W

The thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeah

I actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammates



It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere

ok i take it back. tragic start, perhaps try starting again

[Porscha]

Idk why but I woke up at 4 am

Michelle 2 Voters: Long Con, DrWilgy

Wilgy still has only his 5 posts from SOD and I am waiting for him to come back

@Long Con explain your vote pls, I can't read at this hour

Michelle go back to sleep.

Did you know?

Dolphins sleep with only half of their brain at a time! This is called unihemispheric slow-wave sleep (or UNIHEMISPHERIC SLOWAVE, for short), and it allows them to rest while keeping one eye open to watch for predators and continue surfacing for air.

Do you know how annoying is to read the inactive thread in my day time while the cool kids are sleeping?

No no I hear you and I sympathize, I just figure sleep is very important and I care about your health

Thank you, I will listen to you and go back to sleep. It's not like LC wants to talk to me.

That's untrue. Sorry I was picking up my son from his friend's house at the exact time you woke up randomly and wanted to chat.

This post from Michelle increases my unease about her alignment, because I think it would be difficult to argue that I don't want to talk to Michelle if you look back to when we were both awake and active. I was, like, focused on talking to Michelle for a section there. It was not very long ago, I bet you can all remember it.

So when she says something disingenuous like "It's not like LC wants to talk to me", I have to wonder what her angle is, and although I don't know, Town doesn't need to invent false angles like this. I don't think a Michelle vote is super-popular right now, but mine is staying.

I dunno. I could 100% see myself being sleepy and just being like "well the person who was just here fucked off i guess. i'm leaving since they dont wanna talk to me" like lol it isn't legitimately a serious remark, just a petty "oh well i'll go fuck off if the other guy did" type of remark lol

[Lime Coke]

The site is kinda fucked on phone currently so quoting and writing out under the quote isn't possible.

In what way? I’m exclusively on phone and haven’t had any problems in days

I click on a bigger quote like I did with Falcon's post, and I couldn't scroll on the text box spot so if you noticed I sorta had to remove the space he had between his lines in order to post on the bottom.

[Lime Coke]

Sorry for the near no show the first 24 hours, but a bit busy weekend I just realized and yeah.

I'll get caught up and get going tomorrow.

[pyxxy]

Good M~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~R~N~I~N~G~

Wait, did I miss the part where wilgy says that he is “definitely a doctor” or???


You know this is good enough reason for today. Let’s mix it up, let’s be aggressive [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Also, hello to people I have not played with before!
@Cape90
@DarlingMonroe
@Lime Coke
@pyxxy

I’m the guy that dies usually, so I hope to stick around long enough this game to know you all better

hello! nice to meet you!

in brief, why do you usually die early? innoculate me

[pyxxy]

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

Never too early!

What do you make of SVS’ notation of my posting? I think yall have more of a history and would be able to read each other better than I do.

I also would like to get the whole gang in here and have a party with pyx and saisy

I'm a little surprised you dropped the SVS sus here, but maybe I'm being too critical, as you literally say it's an observation

feels like fakery between you and SVS

[pyxxy]

The thread has a weird vibe.

I think someone in the SVS/Scotty mix up is mafia. If I had to pick I’d say Scotty.

Why? You may ask, the answer is because I said so.


Actually I think this is a case of SVS noting something that wasn’t scummy, but the player is mafia, and mad they got called out.


Ooooooor I’m totally wrong

I don’t understand why LC is getting votes.

aha, I'm not original

[pyxxy]

Thread is towny

Interesting take

interesting in what context? isn't this kinda the same reads as your reads post? asking this neutrally

[pyxxy]

okay posting didn't feel bad, that's a good thing

I don't think my juice is back, but I guess I'm back, and we can work with that

good to see y'all

hi pyx

why would posting feel bad?

my last memory of syndicate was me playing when I didn't have the juice, which was a metaphor for not really feeling it and not enjoying mafia

also had a shit diplomacy game a few months ago and I'm in a phase of wondering if online posting makes me act meaner than is good

so wasn't sure how coming back for goc would feel

You need engagement. Everyone, pyxxy needs engagement, so please direct some questions and conversations pyxxy's way. This is the cure for juicelessness.

pyxxy, Michelle and I went back and forth about her stated reasons for giving Abigail a townread. She gave a couple of loose reasons to townread Abbi, and, in my opinion, those reasons don't match thread history.

On a scale of 1-10, what are the chances that I'm voting for Michelle based on subjective minutiae that I see as a red flag?

what I remember of you is that you're a miskill target for always voicing your opinion, even when it doesn't make sense to others

voting for michelle lines up with that perfectly, although I saw that Porscha doesnt' townread Michelle and that was in response to someone maybe assuming that Porscha did townread Michelle? which made me blink because I had also assumed for some reason that Porscha townread Michelle, so the correction was a good post, unless it's Porscha preemtively avoiding blame for a town Michelle flip, because posting about it would at least keep Michelle's name in the active conversation and that's how people die

which is to say...one in you Porscha Michelle?

[pyxxy]

And I think Michelle is pretty towny now too

ah. well. nevertheless

[pyxxy]

The thread has a weird vibe.

I think someone in the SVS/Scotty mix up is mafia. If I had to pick I’d say Scotty.

Why? You may ask, the answer is because I said so.


Actually I think this is a case of SVS noting something that wasn’t scummy, but the player is mafia, and mad they got called out.


Ooooooor I’m totally wrong

I don’t understand why LC is getting votes.

Level 0 read here sig.

Obviously SVS and I are both wolves just doing a masterclass in distancing.

No but wait; so you think SVS made a non-read and you conflate that with me feeling ‘caught for the wrong reasons’? That’s bold, dogman

hm okay well I certainly don't feel like you're the type to feel threatened enough unless you're trying to play bold as scum or something for some reason

so to talk about this _again_ is very cool in my book. although closed setup so idk incentives or w/e

[pyxxy]

Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W

3 bottom of the barrel posters and then me and scotty are wolves together. truly brilliant falcon, you've out done yourself this time

this made me chuckle. ty and what's your venmo so I can tip you

[pyxxy]

however I think you're wrong to be concerned that scotty would looked paired with you. not saying feelings invalid or anything, certainly posting these things make you look much more isolated in the thread. which oddly enough makes me question abby's thread vibing. sorry if this train doesn't make sense I'm only awake at 3am to make sure my friends got on the bus. [VOTE: abby] aubergine gn y'all ttyl

[S~V~S]

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

Never too early!

What do you make of SVS’ notation of my posting? I think yall have more of a history and would be able to read each other better than I do.

I also would like to get the whole gang in here and have a party with pyx and saisy

I'm a little surprised you dropped the SVS sus here, but maybe I'm being too critical, as you literally say it's an observation

feels like fakery between you and SVS

If you want to see Scotty and I commit fakery, go look at Ted Lasso. I'll wait.

I tried some standard "calling him out on minor issue as distancing" early on, and he actually started acting like a towny. I had no choice but to defend myself as lightly as I could, but he kept coming. I was deer in the headlights, didn't know what to do, and I prolly made my chatroom a hell for the other members of our team, Michelle and Thunal, with my bitching about it. I'm usually a pretty fun BTS partner, but that game i was a whiny bitch, no lie. It was a semi traumatic (mafia wise, not reality wise lol) experience for me, and I'm fairly sure the rest of our team knows it. Maybe it was for him, too he hadn't been bad in years iirc, and i can be fairly rigid and obsessive and Drama Queenish when I'm upset. Most def Drama Queenish.

I know this is WiFom, but if I'm bad with him again, the last thing I',m doing is throwing out some semi provocative remark at him as distancing since I know up close and personal how he reacts to it. If I'm bad, and he's not my teammate, I'm not doing it either, since, again, I know how he reacts to it. Nope nope nope, not touching him in thread with a ten foot pole.

Like i said, it's all WiFom, but it is the Gods honest truth. And I would think he knows it if he thinks about it.

K gotta catch up and read back, I've only skimmed the last page so far.

[S~V~S]

Scotty I feel fine calling town for now. SVS feels different and I don’t think I agree with her observation on Scotty, but I don’t think it has to be wolfy for her.

Different from what to your mind?

[S~V~S]

My townreads in order are

Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?

I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlighted

Michelle had called sig an SK earlier (I assumed this was an inside joke), maybe you missed that post. I figured she was referring to that.

A few thoughts:

Abigail is town
Scotty is townish
Roxy same
Brad is ok-ish
--------
The rest
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sig (not as SK, but as mafia)

Pretty sure I disagree with this entire list, especially the last part.

[S~V~S]

I mostly liked SVS's wall but was concerned about her point on Porscha

Porscha, the way she came in defending Scotty didn't feel like teammate energy. it felt like pockety energy, and she is a Top Ten pocketer. If I was forced to vote this second this is likely where I would vote, becasue having been in her pocket I know it's a warm, cozy, deadly place, but only if I had to vote for someone NOW, which i don't. So that could develop, it's mainly gut, maybe a bit of fear.

Scotty sounds more towny to me than not. Going back and rereading the exchange that struck me aerlier, it still almost feels like he doesn't really believe it. BUT that doesn't mean he's bad, It could mean I'm reading into him, or that he has his own reasons for throwing out suspicions. We tend to tunnel each other (the Go Hungry game was insane, we basically~both town~ killed each other Day 1 ha ha),so it's possible I was reading into it.

Like the Porscha read seems really strange with SVS literally having a townread on Scotty, IDK if that makes sense but it does to me

Also SVS's read on me is lame but im willing to look past that

I'm a tad confused by the Porscha part of your remark. I sussed Porscha not becasue I thought she was Scottys partner, but because I thought she was pocketing him. Why is that a strange read?

And that initial list was more impressions than reads, and you always tend to read as reasonable to me, and I tend to see reasonable as towny, which is kinda quixotic since I am generally not reasonable myself in games much of the time. I am not sure I have ever seen you bad, if I have I don't recall. What wolf games have you had the last couple years?

In any case, you hadn't said anything up to that point that I either strongly agreed with or disagreed with, so i defaulted to tone, and you, as always, sounded reasonable.

[S~V~S]

The thread has a weird vibe.

I think someone in the SVS/Scotty mix up is mafia. If I had to pick I’d say Scotty.

Why? You may ask, the answer is because I said so.


Actually I think this is a case of SVS noting something that wasn’t scummy, but the player is mafia, and mad they got called out.


Ooooooor I’m totally wrong

I don’t understand why LC is getting votes.

Level 0 read here sig.

Obviously SVS and I are both wolves just doing a masterclass in distancing.

No but wait; so you think SVS made a non-read and you conflate that with me feeling ‘caught for the wrong reasons’? That’s bold, dogman

[S~V~S]

I plan on doing a lot of reads/imperessions posts becasue, and throwing out a lot of reads in general, which is not normal for me. Maybe I'm hero worshipping Jay??

Right now most people feel null. So this is mostly impressions more so than reads. But first impressions can count big!

Re Abbi, I agree with Michelle here that she feels breezy, "pretending to be breezy" Abbi tends to feel a bit sharper, like she's laughing at you not with you if that makes sense.

Cape sounds reasonable so far, Cape almost always sounds reasonable to me, so no read.

Monroe, if they said anything I don't remember it.

Wilgy has only made jokey posts. I will say I miss him licking people. Those were the days.

Falcon also jokey. He has a vote on the board for Porscha for no reason I can see, so not sure if he means that or not.

Lime is null and looking to get high; I get that. He hasn't thrown out much in the way of off the cuff reads, which is how I gauge him.

LC, I have complex feels. Not a huge fan of how he jumped down my throat for what I said about Scotty. But other than that he feels pretty civvie to me, I don't know that bad LC would have taken that almost petulant tone re being what he perceived as being tunneled from the usual people.

Michelle also complex feels. I agreed with LC that her use of "explain like I'm 5" felt confrontational and somewhat out of character for her. Which is why I replied to her with vote for me with the same, which actually WAS rude (I see she @ me but I haven't looked at it yet). I'm a coward. But other than that (which isn't really AI) she has the tone I expect of town Michelle. And when I think about it, that slightly edgy remark is something i don't know that I see bad Michelle making.

Porscha, the way she came in defending Scotty didn't feel like teammate energy. it felt like pockety energy, and she is a Top Ten pocketer. If I was forced to vote this second this is likely where I would vote, becasue having been in her pocket I know it's a warm, cozy, deadly place, but only if I had to vote for someone NOW, which i don't. So that could develop, it's mainly gut, maybe a bit of fear.

Pyxxy sounds sad I hope he gets his juice back.

Roxy, like Abbi, sounds breezy, like real breezy, not forced breezy. But I need more on topic for real thoughts, as with most people

S~V~S is super fucking towny fools. Really though, it always amazes me that people have problems telling the difference.

Scotty sounds more towny to me than not. Going back and rereading the exchange that struck me aerlier, it still almost feels like he doesn't really believe it. BUT that doesn't mean he's bad, It could mean I'm reading into him, or that he has his own reasons for throwing out suspicions. We tend to tunnel each other (the Go Hungry game was insane, we basically~both town~ killed each other Day 1 ha ha),so it's possible I was reading into it.

sig sounds casual and mellow, but he's good at that. So null more so than lean town, but i do like that he's calling out observations, so slightly greenish null.

I don't think Daisy has posted.

Sprit is mostly jokey, I don't love his voting reason if it's real, but I'm assuming it is also a joke.

I think Thunal is too careful to make posts about being bad if she's bad. But I need to hear more.

TSP liked Eraserhead. Let's string him up! No not really, he doesn't have much on topic, yet.

I'll revisit this list in the AM.

Myrrrrrrrh i fear why your intentionally playing different from your normal and openly excusing it

yeah, it's weird, isn't it?

[S~V~S]

Not much to go on yet, I’m seeing standard entrances from everyone except Wilgy no doctor claim so hmmmm.

If I was hard pressed to find a mafia member I’d say Falcon since he’s always mafia

This feels like a fake thought. Like saying hmm to appear to be thinking.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I agree with this actually.

It’s as if he pulled those reads out of fortune cookies. There isn’t really a link or a strong context of those suspicions beside ‘I’m just gonna name something here’

I just have *strong* memory of sig usually succumbing to the D1 misyeet a lot in the past. Like, I had a mantra that if I think sig is bad, he’s probably good; and if I think he’s good, he’s also probably bad, but also maybe mostly good

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

It’s not a sexy vote but he’s a bit too blendy at this point in the day for my liking and I’m down to roll the dice

When I first read that, it made me think, wow, when was the last time sig played, since I think that kinda used to be the mindset re Falcon, and it really isn't anymore. So I didn't think much of it, but i could see it that way, too, that's he's a vote looking for a safe victim.

[S~V~S]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I don't like the vibe

Explain it to me like I'm 5

It's midnight and I will go to sleep.
You'll have to wait until tomorrow when I can't play until late because I am busy with weekend stuff.

You came back and made like 10 posts overnight, but didn't explain my bad vibe to me. I has a sad.

[S~V~S]

I guess I'm alone in being concerned about that SVS post lol

Well you said she is posting different than her usual self. But what is different or odd about that post in comparison to what you’re thinking? It doesn’t feel particularly different to me

No she said she was gonna play different in the post and generally when people say they are gonna play differently and preemptively explain why it's wolf

ohhhh I missed that sentence. What’s weird is I remember SVS making these types of gut reads all the time so I don’t even know what she’s talking about playing different

Not usually in the first half of Day 1. I'm trying to be a bit more open; I'll never be Alison when it comes to lists, but I can try.

[S~V~S]

Vote: sig

Finally a wagon i can get behind

Preface: we should not do a D1 sig yeet. History says it’s a bad idea and this is not the vision of success if we are wrong.

But I’m down to sit here for a bit longee

Even though I didn't play it, watching sig give his baddie masterclass in I think it was Scooby Doo changed my perspective on him.

[S~V~S]

Thunal is picking her battles and feels very hesitant to make any waves so far. Feels different than Napoleon Dynamite mafia where she was town. Just noting.

(I’m doing the thing SVS did with me lol)

[S~V~S]

I mostly liked SVS's wall but was concerned about her point on Porscha

Porscha, the way she came in defending Scotty didn't feel like teammate energy. it felt like pockety energy, and she is a Top Ten pocketer. If I was forced to vote this second this is likely where I would vote, becasue having been in her pocket I know it's a warm, cozy, deadly place, but only if I had to vote for someone NOW, which i don't. So that could develop, it's mainly gut, maybe a bit of fear.

Scotty sounds more towny to me than not. Going back and rereading the exchange that struck me aerlier, it still almost feels like he doesn't really believe it. BUT that doesn't mean he's bad, It could mean I'm reading into him, or that he has his own reasons for throwing out suspicions. We tend to tunnel each other (the Go Hungry game was insane, we basically~both town~ killed each other Day 1 ha ha),so it's possible I was reading into it.

Like the Porscha read seems really strange with SVS literally having a townread on Scotty, IDK if that makes sense but it does to me

Also SVS's read on me is lame but im willing to look past that

yeah idk I didnt love all the reads but some were fine and it was something able to be worked with so i just let it go earlier lol. i sort of just went with the idea that she townreads scotty enough to be very concerned that I am maybe pocketing him .. @S~V~S how did I pocket you so much in that game btw? i went through my iso there and made like 2 nai posts at you lol. i almost entirely just pushed you/kate dichotomy

I thought it was more than that. Early in the game you were super super nice to me, in retrospect, it felt like you were buttering me up a bit. At that time, I had no baseline for you, I developed it *after* that game. Snippy Porscha, town, Sweetie Porscha bad ha ha.

I never would have voted for you ever, and would have actively argued against that. That's why I felt it was so successful, you didn't even have to try, you opened that pocket one time and I jumped right in.

[S~V~S]

OK, I'm mostly caught up, at least to what happened after I last posted, gotta go do rl for a bit, but will be back before noon to make list part deux. I'll try to weed out some nulls (but still a lot of nulls) and put it in order rather than just alpha.

Sorry for multi posts, but this was when I had to catch up, and no one else was here.

[Thunal33]

Scotty I feel fine calling town for now. SVS feels different and I don’t think I agree with her observation on Scotty, but I don’t think it has to be wolfy for her.

Different from what to your mind?

From your usual game. I was initially weirded out by your Scotty observation because it feels like he forces reads every game to me, and you giving a ton of reads this early is different from you.

[Thunal33]

Not much to go on yet, I’m seeing standard entrances from everyone except Wilgy no doctor claim so hmmmm.

If I was hard pressed to find a mafia member I’d say Falcon since he’s always mafia

This feels like a fake thought. Like saying hmm to appear to be thinking.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I agree with this actually.

It’s as if he pulled those reads out of fortune cookies. There isn’t really a link or a strong context of those suspicions beside ‘I’m just gonna name something here’

I just have *strong* memory of sig usually succumbing to the D1 misyeet a lot in the past. Like, I had a mantra that if I think sig is bad, he’s probably good; and if I think he’s good, he’s also probably bad, but also maybe mostly good

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

It’s not a sexy vote but he’s a bit too blendy at this point in the day for my liking and I’m down to roll the dice

When I first read that, it made me think, wow, when was the last time sig played, since I think that kinda used to be the mindset re Falcon, and it really isn't anymore. So I didn't think much of it, but i could see it that way, too, that's he's a vote looking for a safe victim.

I haven't played with sig in a long time but I remember finding him scummy as town when I did. I don't think his difference check in you/SVS makes sense though.

[Thunal33]

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

Never too early!

What do you make of SVS’ notation of my posting? I think yall have more of a history and would be able to read each other better than I do.

I also would like to get the whole gang in here and have a party with pyx and saisy

I'm a little surprised you dropped the SVS sus here, but maybe I'm being too critical, as you literally say it's an observation

feels like fakery between you and SVS

If you want to see Scotty and I commit fakery, go look at Ted Lasso. I'll wait.

I tried some standard "calling him out on minor issue as distancing" early on, and he actually started acting like a towny. I had no choice but to defend myself as lightly as I could, but he kept coming. I was deer in the headlights, didn't know what to do, and I prolly made my chatroom a hell for the other members of our team, Michelle and Thunal, with my bitching about it. I'm usually a pretty fun BTS partner, but that game i was a whiny bitch, no lie. It was a semi traumatic (mafia wise, not reality wise lol) experience for me, and I'm fairly sure the rest of our team knows it. Maybe it was for him, too he hadn't been bad in years iirc, and i can be fairly rigid and obsessive and Drama Queenish when I'm upset. Most def Drama Queenish.

I know this is WiFom, but if I'm bad with him again, the last thing I',m doing is throwing out some semi provocative remark at him as distancing since I know up close and personal how he reacts to it. If I'm bad, and he's not my teammate, I'm not doing it either, since, again, I know how he reacts to it. Nope nope nope, not touching him in thread with a ten foot pole.

Like i said, it's all WiFom, but it is the Gods honest truth. And I would think he knows it if he thinks about it.

K gotta catch up and read back, I've only skimmed the last page so far.

I'm inclined to believe this.

[Michelle]

yo Michelle we had a whole conversation about it earlier, right?

We had a convo about Abigail.

No, we had a conversation about you.

It was about my read on Abigail.
I thought you beat around the bush but you said you were straightforward which shows we are not looking at your posts in the same way and also you said you didn't have time this morning so I apologise for assuming things.

Otoh why should I think like you and give you an explanation like you want to hear when I have a very different pov over the game than you have regardless your alignment?
You think you're objective, and I think the data I had when I made the read were correct. It's not like one of us has to be wrong, it may be a different perception if you are town and we both have a personal correct perception.

You can keep your vote but I would appreciate some scum hunting from you.
And no, tunneling me is not scum hunting.

[Thunal33]

"Explain it to me like I'm 5" is an extremely loaded statement. Michelle is unusually defensive of this read.

Fwiw I didn't see it that way, I saw it as almost playful.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I don't like the vibe

Explain it to me like I'm 5

It's midnight and I will go to sleep.
You'll have to wait until tomorrow when I can't play until late because I am busy with weekend stuff.

You came back and made like 10 posts overnight, but didn't explain my bad vibe to me. I has a sad.

I have to ISO you to check what gave me that impression and 4 am is not the perfect time. It isn't now as well because I am not home until late in the day. I am stuck on phone unfortunately and multiquoting and making explanations requires time I don't have.

[Thunal33]

Scotty feels like he’s trying too hard to find reads.

This is not really AI to me, just thought I’d note it.

Then why bring it up if you don’t actually suspect me for it?

This sounds like dropping potential breadcrumbs so you can come back later and be like ‘well, I did find it weird at the time’

I’m saying what the thread makes me feel you generally resd as somewhat combative to me, this just feels like you’re looking for things to find bad rather than noticing them, if it makes sense.

And it’s totally possible I might come back to it, based on how you respond to it. It’s the only thing that’s happened so far that stands out to me.

hm. hm. hmhmhmhmhm. i think scotty is notably the towniest player in the thread up until this point lol. not sure where this anti scotty rhetoric is coming from. don't think all 4 players involved are wolves, but it's just like. idk. really blase responses to him lol

I kind of wolflean this post because I often see this kind of thing come from wolves who are puzzled that a townie they think is being really towny is suspected.

[Thunal33]

Does anyone remember if mafia Roxy is more likely to post emoji?

Or was she less likely?

I know it was one or the other but can’t remember which.

This kinda reads as fake solving.

[Thunal33]

You tried to discredit my vote by claiming falsely that I always tunnel you. That doesn't look good to me.

well I asked if i tunnel you more or if vice versa cuz i remembered you always sr'ing me so i was like... ok is this normal long con sr'ing me or are you hopping on falcon's dumb argument (which i find wolfier) lmao

i guess it isn't the previous, so it's the latter lol. i don't like falcon trying to shoehorn some gotcha without commenting on everything around it

I don't really like this because when does Falcon comment on everything around the thing he susses? Pretty much never.

I'm not liking Porscha's angle so far.

[Thunal33]

Thunal is picking her battles and feels very hesitant to make any waves so far. Feels different than Napoleon Dynamite mafia where she was town. Just noting.

(I’m doing the thing SVS did with me lol)

I haven't had time for the game until today. Sometimes I have spicy anti-consensus scumreads and feel the need to make waves and sometimes I feel like the consensus is good enough to operate with, and yesterday was one of those times.

[Scotty]

Wilgy?? Weird include.

I mean such that i believe this group feels off. Wilgy is currently voting for Michelle. Joke vote? Maybe. Michelle left him out of her little read list, which shows he’s not even on her radar which is interesting considering he’s voting her, joke or not. Abigail readily agreeing with Wilgy offhandedly that sig is an SK, feels buddy buddy
Michelle and Abby buddy buddy also feels off

I wish I could bookmark this post

hi Porscha

To go back to this, I wonder if it makes Abbi more likely to be town that she didn’t remember agreeing with Wilgy that sig was SK. Like, that tells me she IS posting stream of consciousness and isn’t marinating on what makes her *appear* town. Just kinda putting shit out there.

But I don’t remember her scum game.
Townlean

You town lean Porscha here? I don't understand well and I want to know exactly what you mean

Oh no, that was a Townlean directed at Abbi.

I…don’t particularly have a reason to Townlean Porscha actually. She has taken some time to defend my points and butter me up- which inherently makes me wary- but more importantly I find her reads as peripheral and not making strong indictments of anyone. It’s…soft? Add on that multiple people feel something off and i could very well see her as bad

in what universe would I have strong convictions when half the players have very few posts? I also got into it with LC for a minute.

idk. your reads are like the breeze. someone just says something and you go "actually ok ya" and just flop over

remember scotty: if you stand for nothing, you'll for for anything

or just maybe not be town with your own opinions, but instead a wolf who absorbs other people's opinions only lol

So what I’m gathering from this post is that you think my reads and, effectively, my opinion of you is coming from a place of manipulation and I am a wolf?

[Scotty]

like. idk. my defense of scotty was specifically about the people in thread pushing back at the time on what I thought was reasonable coming from scotty, and he thinks i'm not towny for standing up for him against naysayers lol. i feel used. i'm dropping my scotty read.

hahahahahahah

[falcon45ca]

Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W

The thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeah

I actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammates



It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere

ok i take it back. tragic start, perhaps try starting again

What, like an Etch-A-Sketch?




Nah, that's not really my bailiwick



Who are your Top 3 Maf & Town, and got a blurb as to why?



Gut feels allowed, 'natch

[Scotty]

reallky can't think of a better situation for a wolf other than a town defending them and then said town getting scumread for it while he sits there doing nothing and looking pretty and not being inquisitive about it whatsoever lol. he knows if he flips I just made myself look paired as shit. worst case scenario it's like, 1 for 1. i'm never standing up for anybody ever again

I’m sorry Porscha, this string of posts comes off as exasperation that one of the most active posters rejected your valentines cards and now you’re resorting to ATE to put this back on me

[Scotty]

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

Never too early!

What do you make of SVS’ notation of my posting? I think yall have more of a history and would be able to read each other better than I do.

I also would like to get the whole gang in here and have a party with pyx and saisy

I'm a little surprised you dropped the SVS sus here, but maybe I'm being too critical, as you literally say it's an observation

feels like fakery between you and SVS

That’s fair. It was *quite* abrupt, and is something I saw in one of SVS’ posts that I just don’t think she does when she’s bad.

I might be shooting myself in the foot for relying on meta, but hopefully that at least explains a little bit of why I jumped off so suddenly

[Scotty]

The thread has a weird vibe.

I think someone in the SVS/Scotty mix up is mafia. If I had to pick I’d say Scotty.

Why? You may ask, the answer is because I said so.


Actually I think this is a case of SVS noting something that wasn’t scummy, but the player is mafia, and mad they got called out.


Ooooooor I’m totally wrong

I don’t understand why LC is getting votes.

Level 0 read here sig.

Obviously SVS and I are both wolves just doing a masterclass in distancing.

No but wait; so you think SVS made a non-read and you conflate that with me feeling ‘caught for the wrong reasons’? That’s bold, dogman

hm okay well I certainly don't feel like you're the type to feel threatened enough unless you're trying to play bold as scum or something for some reason

so to talk about this _again_ is very cool in my book. although closed setup so idk incentives or w/e

You just reminded me that because it’s a closed setup, there’s always the chance for a multiball, which Epi has been known to do. Though with 18 players I find that *less* likely, but if so that screws up my association reads. So best to keep it as probably 13/4/1 for my baseline. And hopefully that 1 is a town-sided 3P

[Thunal33]

The thread has a weird vibe.

I think someone in the SVS/Scotty mix up is mafia. If I had to pick I’d say Scotty.

Why? You may ask, the answer is because I said so.


Actually I think this is a case of SVS noting something that wasn’t scummy, but the player is mafia, and mad they got called out.


Ooooooor I’m totally wrong

I don’t understand why LC is getting votes.

Level 0 read here sig.

Obviously SVS and I are both wolves just doing a masterclass in distancing.

No but wait; so you think SVS made a non-read and you conflate that with me feeling ‘caught for the wrong reasons’? That’s bold, dogman

hm okay well I certainly don't feel like you're the type to feel threatened enough unless you're trying to play bold as scum or something for some reason

so to talk about this _again_ is very cool in my book. although closed setup so idk incentives or w/e

You just reminded me that because it’s a closed setup, there’s always the chance for a multiball, which Epi has been known to do. Though with 18 players I find that *less* likely, but if so that screws up my association reads. So best to keep it as probably 13/4/1 for my baseline. And hopefully that 1 is a town-sided 3P

I have it on good authority that it's actually a multiball with 6 players on one mafia team and 5 on the other.

[Scotty]

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

Never too early!

What do you make of SVS’ notation of my posting? I think yall have more of a history and would be able to read each other better than I do.

I also would like to get the whole gang in here and have a party with pyx and saisy

I'm a little surprised you dropped the SVS sus here, but maybe I'm being too critical, as you literally say it's an observation

feels like fakery between you and SVS

If you want to see Scotty and I commit fakery, go look at Ted Lasso. I'll wait.

I tried some standard "calling him out on minor issue as distancing" early on, and he actually started acting like a towny. I had no choice but to defend myself as lightly as I could, but he kept coming. I was deer in the headlights, didn't know what to do, and I prolly made my chatroom a hell for the other members of our team, Michelle and Thunal, with my bitching about it. I'm usually a pretty fun BTS partner, but that game i was a whiny bitch, no lie. It was a semi traumatic (mafia wise, not reality wise lol) experience for me, and I'm fairly sure the rest of our team knows it. Maybe it was for him, too he hadn't been bad in years iirc, and i can be fairly rigid and obsessive and Drama Queenish when I'm upset. Most def Drama Queenish.

I know this is WiFom, but if I'm bad with him again, the last thing I',m doing is throwing out some semi provocative remark at him as distancing since I know up close and personal how he reacts to it. If I'm bad, and he's not my teammate, I'm not doing it either, since, again, I know how he reacts to it. Nope nope nope, not touching him in thread with a ten foot pole.

Like i said, it's all WiFom, but it is the Gods honest truth. And I would think he knows it if he thinks about it.

K gotta catch up and read back, I've only skimmed the last page so far.

What sucks is I don’t remember any of that but I apologize profusely if that’s how it happened. I can’t remember the last time I’ve been bad, but I’d like to think if I were planning on going ham on a teammate I’d have the wherewithal to give a heads up and not just go rogue. All I remember is we won that game, and it was messy. Sometimes I really hate my shitty memory to fill in the contextual blanks :/

“Nope nope nope, not touching him in thread with a ten foot pole.”

What am I? Mr. Grinch?

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SVS, are you curious as to why I jumped off you?