The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[S~V~S]

Idk why but I woke up at 4 am

Michelle 2 Voters: Long Con, DrWilgy

Wilgy still has only his 5 posts from SOD and I am waiting for him to come back

@Long Con explain your vote pls, I can't read at this hour

Michelle go back to sleep.

Did you know?

Dolphins sleep with only half of their brain at a time! This is called unihemispheric slow-wave sleep (or UNIHEMISPHERIC SLOWAVE, for short), and it allows them to rest while keeping one eye open to watch for predators and continue surfacing for air.

Do you know how annoying is to read the inactive thread in my day time while the cool kids are sleeping?

No no I hear you and I sympathize, I just figure sleep is very important and I care about your health

Thank you, I will listen to you and go back to sleep. It's not like LC wants to talk to me.

That's untrue. Sorry I was picking up my son from his friend's house at the exact time you woke up randomly and wanted to chat.

This post from Michelle increases my unease about her alignment, because I think it would be difficult to argue that I don't want to talk to Michelle if you look back to when we were both awake and active. I was, like, focused on talking to Michelle for a section there. It was not very long ago, I bet you can all remember it.

So when she says something disingenuous like "It's not like LC wants to talk to me", I have to wonder what her angle is, and although I don't know, Town doesn't need to invent false angles like this. I don't think a Michelle vote is super-popular right now, but mine is staying.

Ok found this, while I am finding her towny, I understand your reasoning here, so nvm prior question.

[Thunal33]

I actually don't want to vote Porscha anymore.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Could vote Sig or Roxy.

[Thunal33]

I looked at Porscha's wolf game that I was snowed by and I feel like her approach is pretty different. She was really willing to shade people there and here she's passing up some opportunities to shade people. Like with sig she's careful to push him because he's a designated miskill.

[Thunal33]

@Cape90 what i meant by that line is that it's something a wolf could easily jump on, but it's also something a town would might question or push back on. Like the post svs made is just Not Ideal and a wolf could jump her for it, but a town could just as easily raise an eyebrow

Like things like this I feel she would just shade as a wolf.

[Scotty]

I don’t like Scotty saying he doesn’t remember Porsche’s meta for some reason tbh

My man, I have a terrible memory. I talk about it a lot

I tend to remember Porsche having some difficulty as mafia and starting off smoothly here. I don’t know about the last 10 pages or so

So! There may be some validity to that. I went back to Apathy mafia (which was played like 1.5 years ago when the pyramids were still being built) and she lolcatted the entire time before being D1'd as wolf. Very different here. She's a bit reactive but is actually putting out reads

Any one else have an thoughts about wolf Porscha and I'll pass you the mic

She snowed me until f5 here: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/49014 (I was Spellblade)

I ended up catching her on lylo specific stuff and she was pretty consensus town d1.

Ok! thank you, that's far more recent- I feel like I perused a good chunk of that game and it still feels different than this one

[Scotty]

@Cape90 what i meant by that line is that it's something a wolf could easily jump on, but it's also something a town would might question or push back on. Like the post svs made is just Not Ideal and a wolf could jump her for it, but a town could just as easily raise an eyebrow

Like things like this I feel she would just shade as a wolf.

There's also a huge amount of throwaways and 'idk' and far less pointed takes. I'm at least seeing those here.

[Thunal33]

@Cape90 what i meant by that line is that it's something a wolf could easily jump on, but it's also something a town would might question or push back on. Like the post svs made is just Not Ideal and a wolf could jump her for it, but a town could just as easily raise an eyebrow

Like things like this I feel she would just shade as a wolf.

There's also a huge amount of throwaways and 'idk' and far less pointed takes. I'm at least seeing those here.

Yeah I noticed she had more takes too.

[Scotty]

Check-in post. Will go through all of Day 1.

Yes hi, hello.

Guess we'll see you in Day 2. Can't wait to hear how Antarctica was, or wherver you've been!

@DrWilgy I think you're bad. Why am I outside the baseline on that?

[S~V~S]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

[S~V~S]

I miss linki so much.

[Scotty]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

[Scotty]

I miss linki so much.

I think the host can turn it back on in the settings. I think.

I miss POGS

[Thunal33]

Atm my PoE is kind of boring. Sig, Roxy, Lime, Wilgy, and DM I'd consider PoE.

[S~V~S]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

[Scotty]

Atm my PoE is kind of boring. Sig, Roxy, Lime, Wilgy, and DM I'd consider PoE.

Sometimes boring in the streets can be a freak in the sheets

as they say

[Michelle]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Roxy ] aubergine

[Scotty]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

have you tried migrating to a different time zone?

Phew, I should be a life coach

[Cape90]

Hello, I am super tired but I am catching up

[S~V~S]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

So you think the baddies are me, Roxy and LC? That would be a fun team and I’d enjoy being on it, but it isn’t a thing this game.

[Michelle]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

have you tried migrating to a different time zone?

Phew, I should be a life coach

Yes. It's better to wake up overnight than moving where this hour is in day time.

[Michelle]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

So you think the baddies are me, Roxy and LC? That would be a fun team and I’d enjoy being on it, but it isn’t a thing this game.

Where did I say such thing?
Roxy should read veteran players like you and LC but she is ignoring you both. I don't think this shows partnership.

Can you not put words in my mouth?

[Scotty]

5 people haven't voted and we're at 30 minutes left in the day.

We can't have this many non voters.

Y'all. Vote early. You can change your vote. So that scenarios like this don't happen. Votes are your receipts. Without receipts, the IRS (ie me in vote analysis) will be furious

[S~V~S]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

So you think the baddies are me, Roxy and LC? That would be a fun team and I’d enjoy being on it, but it isn’t a thing this game.

Where did I say such thing?
Roxy should read veteran players like you and LC but she is ignoring you both. I don't think this shows partnership.

Can you not put words in my mouth?

I’m not sure why you seem angry at me.

I didn’t put words in your mouth; it was a question. There was a question mark.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Are you guys reading the same game that I’m not?

Oh have you read the game? Wouldn't know it from your contributions today

Savage

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I can't shake the feeling she TMIed Scotty town and I don't like how she dropped the Scotty read.

I could do this too depending on what she or sig says later on.

Porscha is good

Do not take her away from me

por que

She's town i dunno she just is her attitude is towny I do not understand the desire to kill her

sorry, i'm gonna need more insight than just 'trust me bro'

That's why

Her attitude and play has been towny that's enough for me on day 1 when there's far less towny sounding players

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Are you guys reading the same game that I’m not?

Well I'm vocally against Porscha

Not helping

Why am I not helping?

[Cape90]

There seemed to be something very random about pyxxy's reappearance into the thread

okay posting didn't feel bad, that's a good thing

I don't think my juice is back, but I guess I'm back, and we can work with that

good to see y'all

hi pyx

why would posting feel bad?

my last memory of syndicate was me playing when I didn't have the juice, which was a metaphor for not really feeling it and not enjoying mafia

also had a shit diplomacy game a few months ago and I'm in a phase of wondering if online posting makes me act meaner than is good

so wasn't sure how coming back for goc would feel

You need engagement. Everyone, pyxxy needs engagement, so please direct some questions and conversations pyxxy's way. This is the cure for juicelessness.

pyxxy, Michelle and I went back and forth about her stated reasons for giving Abigail a townread. She gave a couple of loose reasons to townread Abbi, and, in my opinion, those reasons don't match thread history.

On a scale of 1-10, what are the chances that I'm voting for Michelle based on subjective minutiae that I see as a red flag?

what I remember of you is that you're a miskill target for always voicing your opinion, even when it doesn't make sense to others

voting for michelle lines up with that perfectly, although I saw that Porscha doesnt' townread Michelle and that was in response to someone maybe assuming that Porscha did townread Michelle? which made me blink because I had also assumed for some reason that Porscha townread Michelle, so the correction was a good post, unless it's Porscha preemtively avoiding blame for a town Michelle flip, because posting about it would at least keep Michelle's name in the active conversation and that's how people die

which is to say...one in you Porscha Michelle?

Though I kind of like this even though I had to look at it like 3 or 4 times

[S~V~S]

Not replying to every @ doesn’t make a person bad.

I know Rox can fool me but I’m not seeing bad Rox, I’m seeing distracted Rox making a vote very in character for her

[Michelle]

The vote up there that looks baddiest to me is Wilgys.

Had he not been in since he made it it would be NAI to me. But he was here and left it. That’s bothersome to me.

Yeah.

And hey, while you're here. What's your current take on Roxy?

She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.

I think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LC

Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much

So you think the baddies are me, Roxy and LC? That would be a fun team and I’d enjoy being on it, but it isn’t a thing this game.

Where did I say such thing?
Roxy should read veteran players like you and LC but she is ignoring you both. I don't think this shows partnership.

Can you not put words in my mouth?

I’m not sure why you seem angry at me.

I didn’t put words in your mouth; it was a question. There was a question mark.

I am not angry. I am grumpy for being awake at almost 3 am. Sorry if this looks like I am angry towards you.

If that was a question the answer is no.

You were defensive though and implying a solve I never talked about, it wasn't just the question.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote: Roxy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Roxys big post about everything was very wolfy it was like trying to keep everyone on the table for an exe and it bothered me

[Cape90]

My townreads in order are

Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?

I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlighted

Michelle had called sig an SK earlier (I assumed this was an inside joke), maybe you missed that post. I figured she was referring to that.

A few thoughts:

Abigail is town
Scotty is townish
Roxy same
Brad is ok-ish
--------
The rest
--------
sig (not as SK, but as mafia)

Pretty sure I disagree with this entire list, especially the last part.

I knew that, but it's like Roxy took that too seriuously, could be mistaken since it's hard to read being sarcastic over the internet. It honestly felt like Roxy was trying to look towny by adding content, but it's really shallow and says nothing

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[Cape90]

I know the previous thing is a bit of a jump in logic for someone who's only posted like 5 times at that point but it's something i guess?

[Thunal33]

I'm playing Jackbox on my friend's stream right now. Probably going to stay on Sig but I'm fine with Roxy being voted.

[Michelle]

My townreads in order are

Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?

I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence

Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.

Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.

Not seeing sig as sk at all.

Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.

like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlighted

Michelle had called sig an SK earlier (I assumed this was an inside joke), maybe you missed that post. I figured she was referring to that.

A few thoughts:

Abigail is town
Scotty is townish
Roxy same
Brad is ok-ish
--------
The rest
--------
sig (not as SK, but as mafia)

Pretty sure I disagree with this entire list, especially the last part.

I knew that, but it's like Roxy took that too seriuously, could be mistaken since it's hard to read being sarcastic over the internet. It honestly felt like Roxy was trying to look towny by adding content, but it's really shallow and says nothing

I forgot to mention the blue coloured part. I called sig mafia not SK.
FTR
Idk what that means. Lack of attention is a mild conclusion


I agree with Capr about Roxy

[Long Con]

Hi firends, I made it here before deadline! Just got home from work and read the last page.

[S~V~S]

I will be disappointed if she is bad tbh. She’s a team player and I think she’d be here defending if she had teammates.

[Michelle]

Otoh I wish to give low posters like Roxy and sig a chance and CFD Brad.
I really don't like his absence with no one mentioning him.

[Long Con]

I'm down with that. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[S~V~S]

Otoh I wish to give low posters like Roxy and sig a chance and CFD Brad.
I really don't like his absence with no one mentioning him.

He’s in my red list.

[Long Con]

Otoh I wish to give low posters like Roxy and sig a chance and CFD Brad.
I really don't like his absence with no one mentioning him.

He’s in my red list.

Come on, you're too classic to be down with a Day 1 sig vote.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote: Lime

[Michelle]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

[S~V~S]

Otoh I wish to give low posters like Roxy and sig a chance and CFD Brad.
I really don't like his absence with no one mentioning him.

I’ll go you do. But we have to decide fast.

[Long Con]

now it's a 3-3 tie between Lime and Roxy

[Cape90]

Scotty feels like he’s trying too hard to find reads.

This is not really AI to me, just thought I’d note it.

Then why bring it up if you don’t actually suspect me for it?

This sounds like dropping potential breadcrumbs so you can come back later and be like ‘well, I did find it weird at the time’

I’m saying what the thread makes me feel you generally resd as somewhat combative to me, this just feels like you’re looking for things to find bad rather than noticing them, if it makes sense.

And it’s totally possible I might come back to it, based on how you respond to it. It’s the only thing that’s happened so far that stands out to me.

hm. hm. hmhmhmhmhm. i think scotty is notably the towniest player in the thread up until this point lol. not sure where this anti scotty rhetoric is coming from. don't think all 4 players involved are wolves, but it's just like. idk. really blase responses to him lol

I kind of wolflean this post because I often see this kind of thing come from wolves who are puzzled that a townie they think is being really towny is suspected.

Thinking about this, I kinda get it because it contrasts the way I have been handling/looking at the Long Con/Michelle thing for instance, which is I just kind of was ignoring it and just seeing what Long Con was brewing there, now I find the whole thing kind of silly, but like that doesn't necessarily mean that Long Con can't be onto something, it's just healthier to let them cook and come to their own conclusions on stuff instead of calling it out and trying to shut it down (there are exceptions for this, but it's so early in the day so bleh).

Also it just feels a bit generalized from Porscha, like I feel like she should have maybe gone deeper into dissecting the quote "4 players involved" who were using quote "anti scotty rhetoric" and trying to decipher alignments/motivations and whether or not she could be wrong on Scotty given their arguments, etc (im being kind of lazy here, forgive me)

Does anyone remember if mafia Roxy is more likely to post emoji?

Or was she less likely?

I know it was one or the other but can’t remember which.

This kinda reads as fake solving.

You know, you said the same thing about the other sig post (that was you right?), and I have the same issue with that post as I do with this post in that sig is just kind of making a kind of silly arbitrary read and it is immediately called fake solving when like... in my head, I would hope that sig isn't putting that much stock into stuff like this? I guess my mileage in shading this post depends on how srs sig is

[Long Con]

Otoh I wish to give low posters like Roxy and sig a chance and CFD Brad.
I really don't like his absence with no one mentioning him.

I’ll go you do. But we have to decide fast.

says the last one to decide

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Myrrrrrr