The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[Scotty]

You know

This looks like TMI

@pyxxy who do you suspect right now in the poll? Because I feel like I have to vote you because I want to save myself and I townread Roxy and SVS. Do you suspect either of those?

it depends on how I think the mech works

I townread SVS so let's just drop her from the conversation. yes her numbers thing doesn't click with me, I don't think that's indicative

Roxy's inclusion and subsequent activity in the thread reads as someone surprised that she has to fight to live today. meaning overnight, if Roxy is scum, mafia felt pretty comfortable in how they were controlling the thread, and had today really shake things up

so I suspect Roxy

however I have a smaller % of curiosity about mech, and how you talked about it. I want more votes on the board first before we get lost in a mech rabbit hole.

my mech theory were Roxy is scum is more likely than my mech theory where we're all town

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Right, and people surprised they needed to fight today means they didn't know they were the leading wagon at some point yesterday. Which a wolf would know, so it's unlikely she is one to my mind.

This post makes it feel like you're trying to make the thread fit your scenario, rather than trying to make your scenario fit the thread. That way you explained it feels convoluted and not totally sincere.

Imma keep reading, but at this time I'm putting in a vote, [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine I'm totally up to changing it, but as always never know how work is gonna go so might not get a chance to vote later.

Hm I had thought pyxxy's approach to reasoning through stuff looked good but you got me to reread this post and now I am confused by his reasoning yeah

I agree.

The thing about nutella is she came in with the appearance of someone feeling things out in the moment, but also with the caveat that she had followed along with D1, so she wasn’t someone just showing up to her first day of work without pants. But she sure seemed like it at times.

I'm a protective role. I think I'm still able to dodge an anti-claim kill by not claiming which one lol.

Finally some spice

Question, do you think you prevented the night kill last night?

Then sprityo coming in hot after seemingly lurking and waiting for the spice to drop or else the sand worms to kill the plebs

Just feels like fishing for info

[Scotty]

What are you?

Fwiw I don't know what the mech reason would be other than "we all targeted the same person" which was my idea, and pyxxy didn't want me to throw that out.

What is this ‘target the same person’ theory? I don’t get it.

SVS has already claimed she didn’t target any particular person. Is this old mech talk that has been debunked)

Just the idea that the poll was a bunch of people who targeted the same person at night, which is why I was wondering about SVS's target. pyxxy seems to kind of buy that theory so I'm not discarding it yet.

I guess I can't say for certain that I didn't target who you targeted.

But. Uh. I can say that would be extremely useful information, if you knew something about the person I targeted. Given how much I trust who I targeted.

I targeted Scotty. I have no idea who you targeted.

I'm a protective role. I think I'm still able to dodge an anti-claim kill by not claiming which one lol.

I suppose I won’t comment on this then. There was seemingly no counter claim to this, so I feel like I have to take it at face value.

[Scotty]

Hm
I don't like 2 people being on Scotty

Hey bub, maybe I’m into that

[Scotty]

I'm a protective role. I think I'm still able to dodge an anti-claim kill by not claiming which one lol.

Finally some spice

Question, do you think you prevented the night kill last night?

finally some spice and you reappear to question the protective role about their specifics within 2 minutes?

That’s what I SAID! +47 points for pyxxy

[Porscha]

Night 2: Did You Know About Egg TV?



I didn’t. They broadcast using drones, and they will even use those to film your funeral!

Imagine being put to rest and a crew of people are there with remote controlled airplanes and I don’t know what all flying around to see you off.

I bet our latest victim would like that kind of send off.

TonyStarkPrime is on Egg TV now.

Spoiler: show

Cable

Of The Avengers Mafia game (hosted by me).

With your latent time-travel ability, you will restart Day 3 if the Day 3 poll victim is a civilian. Day 3.2 will immediately follow. If you are the victim of Day 3, this power will fail.

As an expert marksman, you also have one Night kill.

It is now Day 3. You have until the 7pm ET to submit your PMs.

?? was this role copped or something?

[Michelle]

Good morning!

My action failed.

Why you killed Roxy like that it's out of a logical explanation to me, I was extremely frustrated you let pyxxy alive for no reason and chopped the towniest of the 4. Also I woke up at 4 am (2 hours after eod), I will try to be awake next time to protect my town reads.

[Porscha]

I guess what I will say is mechanically I didn't find a killing role suspicious from a role angle?

ok but tsp was also a killing role

how many town killing roles need to flip before you consider a killing role might just admit they visited someone under the pressure of not knowing if they had been tracked/invested and being honest just makes them appear better

[Porscha]

Good morning!

My action failed.

Why you killed Roxy like that it's out of a logical explanation to me, I was extremely frustrated you let pyxxy alive for no reason and chopped the towniest of the 4. Also I woke up at 4 am (2 hours after eod), I will try to be awake next time to protect my town reads.

I consider you my mason btw

[Michelle]

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[Michelle]

Good morning!

My action failed.

Why you killed Roxy like that it's out of a logical explanation to me, I was extremely frustrated you let pyxxy alive for no reason and chopped the towniest of the 4. Also I woke up at 4 am (2 hours after eod), I will try to be awake next time to protect my town reads.

I consider you my mason btw

That's sweet, we can solve together when you have time

[Porscha]

Anyways

My thought process really isn't that confusing I don't think

I thought Roxy was wolf day 1 thought she got saved EoD 1 so I put her in the poll

Pyxxys day 1 play was egregious and the vote on me was really bad especially since I'm... obviously town and I know I'm town so I put them in the poll

SVS play around Roxy especially towards eod didn't make much sense to me it seemed to me they were town reading Roxy but unlike me who was kicking and screaming to save Porscha they barely put up a fight for Roxy... maybe I'm expecting something that isn't normal for SVS fuck if I remember but it just felt like such a weak attempt to save someone you clearly find towny and it felt off to me so I put SVS in the poll

There was some weird SVS Thunal stuff day 1 so I put Thunal in the poll

It was always my intent to... try to solve the D1 CW

I always wanted Roxy to go over unless they proved themself to be overwhelmingly towny cause I think solving the CW is beneficial in most scenarios unless the CW becomes towny

SVS and Thunal were there cause I thought if Roxy was town and proved themself to be town I'd next want to look in those 2 after D1 for a wolf

Pyxxy was an underperforming wolfy player D1 who I saw as a safe out in the case the other 3 were all able to prove my concerns wrong

I do not think Pyxxy cleared themself blah blah blah I don't think I made a bad play but you have the info now you know it's possible there's 0 wolves in the 4 do with that what you will

I think this was a good process

was the silence a side effect of your ability being used or was it separate

[Scotty]

I work all day tomorrow and will only have brief moments to check in to read, so…

New GTH just dropped!

Cape90 - ‪SCUM‬
DarlingMonroe - ‪SCUM‬
DrWilgy - ‪TOWN‬
falcon45ca - ‪SCUM‬
Long Con - ‪TOWN‬
Michelle - ‪TOWN‬
Porscha - ‪TOWN‬
☆Princess Abigail☆ - ‪TOWN‬
pyxxy - ‪TOWN‬
S~V~S - ‪TOWN‬
Scotty - ‪TOWN‬
sig - ‪SCUM‬
Spacedaisy/nutella - ‪SCUM‬
sprityo - ‪SCUM‬
Thunal33 - ‪TOWN‬


‪couple notes, working backwards.‬
‪-thunal is only town in my eyes for mech reasons. Until those mech reasons are refuted or there are other possibilities, that’s where I am. On posting and behavior, it feels scummy‬
‪-sprityo feels extremely blendy and opportunistic with his pop-ins. That SVS and I agree on this is probably a good sign? Probably.‬
‪-Porscha still feels different from her scum games i referenced. Solving and needling. Feel much towncar porsche‬
‪-Long Con where you at bro, we need some phat mech notes‬
‪-I realize I have no strong inclinations on falcon, and that probably needs a reread. I saw others townread him and I’m happy for them? I guess? ‬
‪-Cape is going to be the one I will struggle with the most this game. He’s hitting all the logical notes I associate with an active supatown. If he’s scum, he’s a deepwolf. ‬

‪In all cases, I need a scum flip to really do a deep dive.‬

‪I do feel like we were pigeonholed into voting only 4 people yesterday and I caution everyone to gang up on people for voting for one of the 4 and changing their mind and being perhaps hypocritical. I feel more and more it was 4 town and the mafia was down to fuel the paranoia and possibly let chaos reign.‬

‪@DarlingMonroe if you are town, we NEED you, madam! You are an important cog in this wheel‬

[Porscha]

Also rip TSP that’s a bummer of a role to lose.

What a weird kill. Probably tried to go rando to avoid the protection like Night 1.

I haven’t done an NKA yet, but my initial thought is there’s nothing he said that could be tied to mafia so he was a safe kill.

I have a very cynical theory on NKA but meh

NKA is a lot of wifom but

I believe it may theoretically be possible that wolves can learn the abilities of players and if true than I would not be surprised if they learned TSPs ability and saw it as a necessary kill before today

yeah this aligns with what I thought. nice

[Michelle]

Also Sprit is a good vote and I don't understand how/why Pyxxy was saved yesterday

I saw many actions failed. That means mafia has an ability to make town fail like a total block? I don't think a role cop is the reason of TSP dying, I think he died for his pushes.

[Scotty]

Good morning!

My action failed.

Why you killed Roxy like that it's out of a logical explanation to me, I was extremely frustrated you let pyxxy alive for no reason and chopped the towniest of the 4. Also I woke up at 4 am (2 hours after eod), I will try to be awake next time to protect my town reads.

3 presumed fails…hmmm…

Makes me feel like there was a mafia dampener or something in play.

@everyone Did ANYONE use an action and NOT receive feedback that your action failed? You don’t have to say what you did or who you targeted.

[Scotty]

Good morning!

My action failed.

Why you killed Roxy like that it's out of a logical explanation to me, I was extremely frustrated you let pyxxy alive for no reason and chopped the towniest of the 4. Also I woke up at 4 am (2 hours after eod), I will try to be awake next time to protect my town reads.

I think it was a lose/lose. I get it though.

Roxy’a role seemed pretty badass.

God my role is cheeks in comparison to the 2 dead town. What other crap are yall hiding up your sleeves?

[Michelle]

Abbi is so frustrated about being silenced so she didn't have it as an effect of using her role.

[Scotty]

Also Sprit is a good vote and I don't understand how/why Pyxxy was saved yesterday

I saw many actions failed. That means mafia has an ability to make town fail like a total block? I don't think a role cop is the reason of TSP dying, I think he died for his pushes.

Possibly. I don’t usually do NKA, as I feel like it gets too into WIFOM territory, but I’ll take a look at his iso as a starting point tomorrow

[Scotty]

Abbi is so frustrated about being silenced so she didn't have it as an effect of using her role.

I have two theories based on the static in my brain:

1) there is a mafia silencer and a town silencer, both being used independently on LC and Abbi. Weird choices but ok.
2) there is some sort of role that copies any conditions (good or bad) of another player. That would probably be exactly LC

Abbi seems like mafia silencer material for sure. Though I guess I could be wrong in that assumption

[Long Con]

What's most annoying too me is that I couldn't even play around my ability...I wanted to solve with it but i was just hard muted couldn't vote couldn't speak so I couldn't solve the way I intended when I used it and the day was wasted with meaningless spec about the mech that wasn't even true because I couldn't give the info I planned on outting straight away

I’m assuming you being silenced isn’t noted in your role at all?

Because yea, that just sounds like shit mech luck.

I kinda feel like the mech is fucking us so far

Unless @Long Con comes in and says he discovered the cure for blindness in the Quantum Realm

Nothing like that, unfortunately. Sucks to be silenced and de-voted. Anyone silenced today?

I was at a friend's house since the night ended until now, so I haven't caught up yet, and I won't be fully good until tomorrow afternoonish because I have to go to bed soon and work in the morning.

[Michelle]

I agree Nut and Sprit are POE.

I have to think about pyxxy and iso later in the day

Having one kill means we don't have an SK, right? How many mafia would be in this game with one 3rd party survivor？

[Michelle]

Sleep well everyone, we need your brain to rest and think at the game tomorrow

[Michelle]

I am against chopping Darling because the slot has zero activity.
She can be a wolf, sure, but if we flip an inactive wolf it's not helping much with the solve.

I know a wolf is a wolf and it's better than town flip but also the order of the chops is important

[Thunal33]

Abi should be clear town btw. Not mech, I just think her process has been clearly towny today and I really doubt she silenced herself or had a teammate agree to silence her.

[Long Con]

Why the nutella votes?

[Thunal33]

Also no, another protective should definitely not CC me if one exists. I had a game back on Mafia Cafe with something like 4 protectives that were all real and claimed only "protective" and that pretty much lost us the game.

[Long Con]

Abi should be clear town btw. Not mech, I just think her process has been clearly towny today and I really doubt she silenced herself or had a teammate agree to silence her.

Do you think silencer is a wolf role?

[Porscha]

That was the weirdest day ever. Everyone kept saying how towny Rox was, yet mech mech whatever, everyone voted for her. And here silly me thought NOT voting for people you thought were town was the point of this game

I have to completely revise my list because what it was at the start of day 2 and what it looks to be now are very different.

Yea, I probably should have just kept my vote on thunal tbh. I didn’t find Roxy Wolfy at all. Effing mech and I was missing 4 pages.

Still am actually

are you aware that thunal claimed protective who targeted you n1

you had 24 hours to read like. really not very many posts dude

this game is annoying

I’ve been busy

But you are the first person to inform me of that. That’s good info. It’s…believable?

you didn't know that? I imagine she got anticlaimed tbh

[Porscha]

Abi should be clear town btw. Not mech, I just think her process has been clearly towny today and I really doubt she silenced herself or had a teammate agree to silence her.

Do you think silencer is a wolf role?

yes, I feel like I was in the game that had it and maybe even on the mafia team that used it ? or remember it was from mafia... I think

[Michelle]

That was the weirdest day ever. Everyone kept saying how towny Rox was, yet mech mech whatever, everyone voted for her. And here silly me thought NOT voting for people you thought were town was the point of this game

I have to completely revise my list because what it was at the start of day 2 and what it looks to be now are very different.

Yea, I probably should have just kept my vote on thunal tbh. I didn’t find Roxy Wolfy at all. Effing mech and I was missing 4 pages.

Still am actually

are you aware that thunal claimed protective who targeted you n1

you had 24 hours to read like. really not very many posts dude

this game is annoying

I’ve been busy

But you are the first person to inform me of that. That’s good info. It’s…believable?

you didn't know that? I imagine she got anticlaimed tbh

The role who made the actions fail last night can't be anticlaim because I claimed nothing

[Porscha]

That was the weirdest day ever. Everyone kept saying how towny Rox was, yet mech mech whatever, everyone voted for her. And here silly me thought NOT voting for people you thought were town was the point of this game

I have to completely revise my list because what it was at the start of day 2 and what it looks to be now are very different.

Yea, I probably should have just kept my vote on thunal tbh. I didn’t find Roxy Wolfy at all. Effing mech and I was missing 4 pages.

Still am actually

are you aware that thunal claimed protective who targeted you n1

you had 24 hours to read like. really not very many posts dude

this game is annoying

I’ve been busy

But you are the first person to inform me of that. That’s good info. It’s…believable?

you didn't know that? I imagine she got anticlaimed tbh

The role who made the actions fail last night can't be anticlaim because I claimed nothing

Yeah I didn't notice that like 3 people claimed it at first lol

[Michelle]

Why the nutella votes?

Low interest in solving fmpov

[Michelle]

Why the nutella votes?

Low interest in solving fmpov

And TSP suspected her

[S~V~S]

Anyways someone explain why pyxxy is town with actual reasons that aren't mech spec or "micro things"

<3 uwu

I’m with you here.

I’m opening with [VOTE: sprit] aubergine

And sleep

I’m really not in the mood (or best health) today to explain anything. So w/e

All righty, then. Whatever.

[S~V~S]

Why the nutella votes?

Low interest in solving fmpov

And TSP suspected her

Which makes this intriguing, right?

tsp not an expected kill but kinda makes sense theyd go for the unexpected yeah

[S~V~S]

I work all day tomorrow and will only have brief moments to check in to read, so…

New GTH just dropped!

Cape90 - ‪SCUM‬
DarlingMonroe - ‪SCUM‬
DrWilgy - ‪TOWN‬
falcon45ca - ‪SCUM‬
Long Con - ‪TOWN‬
Michelle - ‪TOWN‬
Porscha - ‪TOWN‬
☆Princess Abigail☆ - ‪TOWN‬
pyxxy - ‪TOWN‬
S~V~S - ‪TOWN‬
Scotty - ‪TOWN‬
sig - ‪SCUM‬
Spacedaisy/nutella - ‪SCUM‬
sprityo - ‪SCUM‬
Thunal33 - ‪TOWN‬


‪couple notes, working backwards.‬
‪-thunal is only town in my eyes for mech reasons. Until those mech reasons are refuted or there are other possibilities, that’s where I am. On posting and behavior, it feels scummy‬
‪-sprityo feels extremely blendy and opportunistic with his pop-ins. That SVS and I agree on this is probably a good sign? Probably.‬
‪-Porscha still feels different from her scum games i referenced. Solving and needling. Feel much towncar porsche‬
‪-Long Con where you at bro, we need some phat mech notes‬
‪-I realize I have no strong inclinations on falcon, and that probably needs a reread. I saw others townread him and I’m happy for them? I guess? ‬
‪-Cape is going to be the one I will struggle with the most this game. He’s hitting all the logical notes I associate with an active supatown. If he’s scum, he’s a deepwolf. ‬

‪In all cases, I need a scum flip to really do a deep dive.‬

‪I do feel like we were pigeonholed into voting only 4 people yesterday and I caution everyone to gang up on people for voting for one of the 4 and changing their mind and being perhaps hypocritical. I feel more and more it was 4 town and the mafia was down to fuel the paranoia and possibly let chaos reign.‬

‪@DarlingMonroe if you are town, we NEED you, madam! You are an important cog in this wheel‬

Agree re Thunal.

Agree re most of your notes, I'm still slotting Cape town; when he has wrong info or perhaps misread something, he owns it and doesn't try to spin why he could still be right. That reads towny to me. I had Falcon town early, but his towny self hasn't really shown since, so he's more midrange for me now.

No change on Sprit, his snark @ me but not you for the vote was interesting; I'm putting that down to my post was first by 2 seconds. Noted his "my action failed" and maybe it did, but the person who failed the actions would know it too.

Will finish reading and do a list.

I wouldn't know if my # failed (I asked) and I don't have an action that I would get results for so

[S~V~S]

OK.

This group I think is towny, No order

Dr Wilgy
Porscha
Cape90
Princess Abigail
Scotty
Michelle
LC


This is Midrange/no read, I had sig bad last list, and Falcon town, they both fell off and need to be reread. DM, I dunno, this is how they play, they no show until they start taking votes then they show up and go gangbusters.

sig
falcon
DM

My bad list seems to be the consensus as of now? I'll vote for any of this group. I started with Sprit becasue his cavalier attitude to yeeting Roxy felt ungenuine to me.
pyxxy
Sprityo
Nutella

Thunal



Has her own category. She feels bad, she sounds bad. She role claimed. She would be in the last category if not for that. She felt not unlike Sprit to me during Roxys yeet.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyways someone explain why pyxxy is town with actual reasons that aren't mech spec or "micro things"

<3 uwu

For one: I liked his willingness to die yesterday. It was a falling on the sword type of thing.

For another: I have other vague reasons

I find vague reasons hardly compelling and being "willing to die" also not very compelling as wolves can put on a show

The amount of times I've watched caught wolves go free for things like being willing to die or not self prezzing is innumerable

I think your town but I also think you've been vaguely defending pyxxy since as early as day 1 and... their day 1 was just hyper bad

The world where I understand your confidence on pyxxy would make a lot more sense to me if it didn't start day 1

Actually, you might find my defending of him started on Day 2.

At least if my memory serves me right

perhaps I make memory mistakes all the time and can't fact check them but I swore you were defending him for micro reasons you never explained d1

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Unvote

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote: spirit

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wow okay out of everyone I needed alive that was the one person I fucking needed.

I’m gonna just get voted out now, seeing as I was the first person on Roxy to vote them outside of the people on the poll. Whatever. And my apologies Roxy, yesterday was weird

Weird doomerism this early in the day

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Guess I'm alone okay I'll kick dis shit off

Poll yesterday was my ability... didn't really think it was that hard to guess it was me all things considered but I guess so

It was not randomly generated I picked the names on it

Wheeeee

We love that, welcome back Abby

Thanks... be honest did you mute me lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

One last thing, my night action failed last night, so thanks whoever that was.

Mine as well

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wonder of it was a group cancel

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyways

My thought process really isn't that confusing I don't think

I thought Roxy was wolf day 1 thought she got saved EoD 1 so I put her in the poll

Pyxxys day 1 play was egregious and the vote on me was really bad especially since I'm... obviously town and I know I'm town so I put them in the poll

SVS play around Roxy especially towards eod didn't make much sense to me it seemed to me they were town reading Roxy but unlike me who was kicking and screaming to save Porscha they barely put up a fight for Roxy... maybe I'm expecting something that isn't normal for SVS fuck if I remember but it just felt like such a weak attempt to save someone you clearly find towny and it felt off to me so I put SVS in the poll

There was some weird SVS Thunal stuff day 1 so I put Thunal in the poll

It was always my intent to... try to solve the D1 CW

I always wanted Roxy to go over unless they proved themself to be overwhelmingly towny cause I think solving the CW is beneficial in most scenarios unless the CW becomes towny

SVS and Thunal were there cause I thought if Roxy was town and proved themself to be town I'd next want to look in those 2 after D1 for a wolf

Pyxxy was an underperforming wolfy player D1 who I saw as a safe out in the case the other 3 were all able to prove my concerns wrong

I do not think Pyxxy cleared themself blah blah blah I don't think I made a bad play but you have the info now you know it's possible there's 0 wolves in the 4 do with that what you will

Ok yeah, this does make a lot of sense from your perspective, and I buy your perspective, even if I don’t agree with the results.

It killed a towny and that's regrettable but I do think the info gained from this is pretty substantial

In the view of wolves both D1 wagons were towns or at least not wolves... they are uninformed on 3Ps so from their perspective Bread and Roxy are just miskills

EoD was pretty dead i wouldn't be surprised if wolves were only maintaining a cursory presence and didn't really get their hands dirty 1 or 2 on the main wagons type of thing

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

tsp not an expected kill but kinda makes sense theyd go for the unexpected yeah

His ability is super powerful and I think it's likely wolves can find out player abilities sooooo again not really unexpected

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

SVS play around Roxy especially towards eod didn't make much sense to me it seemed to me they were town reading Roxy but unlike me who was kicking and screaming to save Porscha they barely put up a fight for Roxy... maybe I'm expecting something that isn't normal for SVS fuck if I remember but it just felt like such a weak attempt to save someone you clearly find towny and it felt off to me so I put SVS in the poll

There was some weird SVS Thunal stuff day 1 so I put Thunal in the poll

wack

Kay

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What's most annoying too me is that I couldn't even play around my ability...I wanted to solve with it but i was just hard muted couldn't vote couldn't speak so I couldn't solve the way I intended when I used it and the day was wasted with meaningless spec about the mech that wasn't even true because I couldn't give the info I planned on outting straight away

assuming you dont know where LC was?

Nope

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mrrrrrrr

Vote: SVS

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hm
I don't like 2 people being on Scotty

Hey bub, maybe I’m into that

I know I am