The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[S~V~S]

Psst it's cause svs be woofin

Yeah I've kind of talked myself into that

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

This is a surprise. Abbi always misreads me, last game I played with her I was wolf, and she said I was so towny she’d die for me. When I’m town she always thinks I’m bad. Generally I ignore it. But this is intriguing.

So I’ve done what my role was set up to do. If I die, I die.

I’ll be back after work, about 6ish eastern.

you don't see how an experience like that would just make a person more paranoid of you?

I 100% I do, I'm embarrassed and should have known better, especially after the earlier "you always tunnel me" stuff going on earlier in this game. I got too frustrated too easily, and acted like an ass. The very thing, as a game mod, I counsel others against. So yeah. I apologize to the host and the whole game.

Gonna catch up and vote, and put that list off till I have more time.

[S~V~S]

OK.

This group I think is towny, No order

Dr Wilgy
Porscha
Cape90
Princess Abigail
Scotty
Michelle
LC


This is Midrange/no read, I had sig bad last list, and Falcon town, they both fell off and need to be reread. DM, I dunno, this is how they play, they no show until they start taking votes then they show up and go gangbusters.

sig
falcon
DM

My bad list seems to be the consensus as of now? I'll vote for any of this group. I started with Sprit becasue his cavalier attitude to yeeting Roxy felt ungenuine to me.
pyxxy
Sprityo
Nutella

Thunal



Has her own category. She feels bad, she sounds bad. She role claimed. She would be in the last category if not for that. She felt not unlike Sprit to me during Roxys yeet.

What did LC to deserve the town read?

I'd ask the same question but about Wilgy

For LC, mostly, as he said about me, his Day One, and I don't see bad LC getting into a spat about tunnelling with anyone. When you're bad, you are naturally in a higher state of self control, since your entire game is a lie you have to defend. When you're town, you're less controlled imo. Your reactions are a little more natural. And LC plays a performative game, for the most part, he always feels like hes role playing, which gets him a lot of sus in general. But his vote for Scotty to "Make things spicy", that was not very solvy. I plan to redo my read lists later.

And Wilgy is very much following the town Wilgy pattern for me; a low content or jokey early game followed by periods of fairly heavy involvement. I have not seen anything that triggers a bad Wilgy read for me.

[S~V~S]

I get Falcon voting DM. Mathmatically, the odds are that they're town. But who knows if they never post.

Looking at who is voting for who, I trust the nutella voters more. I did not love Sprits reaction to taking sus, but you know, he handled it better than some people I've seen , so perhaps my perspective on that changed. Although Thunals point about 2 friendly 3P in a 17 player game is correct, imo. So not totally opposed, but not for the reasons I initially held.

Nutella feels more like she's reacting to content rather than creating it, and while she always has a bit of edginess to her, her bad game feels a bit edgier. All of her remarks have a feel like she's making a throwaway remark that she can easily walk away from if called on it.

So [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[Michelle]

Psst it's cause svs be woofin

Yeah I've kind of talked myself into that

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

This is a surprise. Abbi always misreads me, last game I played with her I was wolf, and she said I was so towny she’d die for me. When I’m town she always thinks I’m bad. Generally I ignore it. But this is intriguing.

So I’ve done what my role was set up to do. If I die, I die.

I’ll be back after work, about 6ish eastern.

you don't see how an experience like that would just make a person more paranoid of you?

I 100% I do, I'm embarrassed and should have known better, especially after the earlier "you always tunnel me" stuff going on earlier in this game. I got too frustrated too easily, and acted like an ass. The very thing, as a game mod, I counsel others against. So yeah. I apologize to the host and the whole game.

Gonna catch up and vote, and put that list off till I have more time.

Abigail throws mud at the wall to see what sticks.
This can be town with free flowing mind or a wolf who wants thread's answer for various suspicions she is pointing out.

Being the shade she threw at me twice with the vote who didn't have a long life, the fact she is not consecvent with a read until she receives an answer from the voted player (I did nothing to deserve a change on vote, it was Porscha who said that's not the direction, but that looks like a reactive play) makes me wary about her intentions.

I need a sanity check.

[Scotty]

SVS is still town. I can go into specifics of her meta postgame but vaguely- her emotions here and backtracking I don’t associate with w!SVS

[Scotty]

Psst it's cause svs be woofin

Yeah I've kind of talked myself into that

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

This is a surprise. Abbi always misreads me, last game I played with her I was wolf, and she said I was so towny she’d die for me. When I’m town she always thinks I’m bad. Generally I ignore it. But this is intriguing.

So I’ve done what my role was set up to do. If I die, I die.

I’ll be back after work, about 6ish eastern.

you don't see how an experience like that would just make a person more paranoid of you?

I 100% I do, I'm embarrassed and should have known better, especially after the earlier "you always tunnel me" stuff going on earlier in this game. I got too frustrated too easily, and acted like an ass. The very thing, as a game mod, I counsel others against. So yeah. I apologize to the host and the whole game.

Gonna catch up and vote, and put that list off till I have more time.

Abigail throws mud at the wall to see what sticks.
This can be town with free flowing mind or a wolf who wants thread's answer for various suspicions she is pointing out.

Being the shade she threw at me twice with the vote who didn't have a long life, the fact she is not consecvent with a read until she receives an answer from the voted player (I did nothing to deserve a change on vote, it was Porscha who said that's not the direction, but that looks like a reactive play) makes me wary about her intentions.

I need a sanity check.

I am not a psychiatrist, so your mileage may vary, but I think you’re doing ok and this appears to be the way Abbi solves. I don’t have receipts on her scum games, but I do see the easy-breezy change on a dime types of reads I remember from town Abbi.

Now I am gonna prescribe you Zoloft. Just remember, I’m not a psychiatrist so this isn’t strictly legal

[Scotty]

What's your read for the people voting you @sprityo ?

They are entirely justified and playing a better town game than I have been. Except Sig, he’s on the lower end of posts just like me and I don’t think he’s done anything exceptional

*Scotty* has done the work on Sig for me it would appear

I mean, not really. I feel like a prosecutor with an opening statement of ‘I mean, just look at him! I rest my case, your honor’

Because like, look at what he’s wearing!

[Long Con]

He was asking for it ,dressed like that.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Really, I should apologize for a lackluster game so far. Not fair to all of you.

truly cannot be worse than the fact I have been in no less than like 5 games with DM and somehow managed to see less than 10 posts in total from them before one of us has died

Sounds about right

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Psst it's cause svs be woofin

Yeah I've kind of talked myself into that

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

This is a surprise. Abbi always misreads me, last game I played with her I was wolf, and she said I was so towny she’d die for me. When I’m town she always thinks I’m bad. Generally I ignore it. But this is intriguing.

So I’ve done what my role was set up to do. If I die, I die.

I’ll be back after work, about 6ish eastern.

you don't see how an experience like that would just make a person more paranoid of you?

I 100% I do, I'm embarrassed and should have known better, especially after the earlier "you always tunnel me" stuff going on earlier in this game. I got too frustrated too easily, and acted like an ass. The very thing, as a game mod, I counsel others against. So yeah. I apologize to the host and the whole game.

Gonna catch up and vote, and put that list off till I have more time.

Abigail throws mud at the wall to see what sticks.
This can be town with free flowing mind or a wolf who wants thread's answer for various suspicions she is pointing out.

Being the shade she threw at me twice with the vote who didn't have a long life, the fact she is not consecvent with a read until she receives an answer from the voted player (I did nothing to deserve a change on vote, it was Porscha who said that's not the direction, but that looks like a reactive play) makes me wary about her intentions.

I need a sanity check.

I generally listen to my town reads because my vote pool is big enough at present that I can afford to do so

Porscha is one of my biggest town reads day 1 should have made that clear so if she tells me I'm wrong I'm gonna listen

Multiple town reads of mine told me I'm wrong on SVS as such I listened

This is good town play especially since I don't really trust in my ability as much as i pretend to

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Damm that's all

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Was really hoping for more to chew on

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm just gonna claim this now

I'm probably gonna just throw my vote to a random wagon that's not in contention at EoD for #reasons

[Thunal33]

SVS is still town. I can go into specifics of her meta postgame but vaguely- her emotions here and backtracking I don’t associate with w!SVS

Yeah I’m going back to town SVS. I’m also wondering if her PoE and mid range reads might get have more mafia than I initially gave her credit for.

Tbh I haven’t had any strong, spicy pushes until SVS and I think she might be in that same gamestate where she’s not seeing much for her to do her town tunnels on.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[falcon45ca]

Again, you wont get any alignment based results from voting me out. I leave it at that. I've been playing for town thus far because it suits my win con better.

If you want to spend the entire day deliberating about something else by all means. I don't think we are anywhere closer to knowing alignments based on vote results or interactions what with the whole fuckery of yesterday happening

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine



I don't find the way you are holding your ability over Town's head, as tho we have no choice or ability to solve the game w/o you...when we have zero red flips w/ you, to be Towny in the least

[falcon45ca]

Munrow, sprit, Wilgy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

[nutella]

Nutella feels more like she's reacting to content rather than creating it

yes that is how I play

[nutella]

I don't think LC is towny

maybe people who were here on D1 have reason to feel he was but I am not seeing it

[falcon45ca]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

[Scotty]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

Wolves are definitely doing stuff.

Muting you (or LC)
muting pyxxy
Blocking all actions last night
Killing TSP as perhaps an evasion kill.

Leads me to believe at least a few of them are paying attention.

[Scotty]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

What sucks is our best inactive player course corrector in the vig was just merked, so it’s going to become a liability if we can’t discern their alignment. And even then, if those slots are just not around, the endgame is going to get really rough.

[falcon45ca]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

What sucks is our best inactive player course corrector in the vig was just merked, so it’s going to become a liability if we can’t discern their alignment. And even then, if those slots are just not around, the endgame is going to get really rough.

I'd much rather try and solve active players late game than nulls, fo sho'

[falcon45ca]

Ah, I see sprit has ghost voted...for themselves




Cuz' I've never seen Maf do that

[Scotty]

I don’t buy that sprit is a 3p.

He decided to come out with this info with minimal pressure at beginning of day. The results don’t compute with the process.

And as someone pointed out, we had one 3p that was truly neutral. Odds are the other one, if there is one, is questionable for being neutral as well.

With 2 3p’s, ratio could be:
12v4v1v1 with both neutral 3p’s “, would be about balanced, I guess.
13v3v1v1 with a need for more powerful mafia, and a mafia-sided 3p

That is to say, it’s certainly possible the other 3p is neutral. Someone that needs TSP dead (cable, a time traveling mutant) in some capacity appeals to the idea of a pseudo-executioner. I say pseudo because usually that role just outright loses if their target isn’t yeeted. So either he has a backup target, it’s a different role entirely, or he’s just lying.

Either way, I am having a hard time feeling like losing him is a loss to town

[Scotty]

Also to note:

Sprit is the first person today to announce that their action failed. This was followed by 3 people I think. But he started the dominoes of those claims.

On the surface, that might be towny. But delving deeper, mafia would most likely know and want to jump on the fact that all town actions were dampened last night for cred.

[Michelle]

Psst it's cause svs be woofin

Yeah I've kind of talked myself into that

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

This is a surprise. Abbi always misreads me, last game I played with her I was wolf, and she said I was so towny she’d die for me. When I’m town she always thinks I’m bad. Generally I ignore it. But this is intriguing.

So I’ve done what my role was set up to do. If I die, I die.

I’ll be back after work, about 6ish eastern.

you don't see how an experience like that would just make a person more paranoid of you?

I 100% I do, I'm embarrassed and should have known better, especially after the earlier "you always tunnel me" stuff going on earlier in this game. I got too frustrated too easily, and acted like an ass. The very thing, as a game mod, I counsel others against. So yeah. I apologize to the host and the whole game.

Gonna catch up and vote, and put that list off till I have more time.

Abigail throws mud at the wall to see what sticks.
This can be town with free flowing mind or a wolf who wants thread's answer for various suspicions she is pointing out.

Being the shade she threw at me twice with the vote who didn't have a long life, the fact she is not consecvent with a read until she receives an answer from the voted player (I did nothing to deserve a change on vote, it was Porscha who said that's not the direction, but that looks like a reactive play) makes me wary about her intentions.

I need a sanity check.

I am not a psychiatrist, so your mileage may vary, but I think you’re doing ok and this appears to be the way Abbi solves. I don’t have receipts on her scum games, but I do see the easy-breezy change on a dime types of reads I remember from town Abbi.

Now I am gonna prescribe you Zoloft. Just remember, I’m not a psychiatrist so this isn’t strictly legal

Noted your town read

About the last sentence..

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: show

Who put TSP in somebody's eggs?
Poll runs till Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
8%
Voters: Long Con
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆
0
No votes
Voters: None
pyxxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
4
33%
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, Michelle, Scotty, S~V~S
sprityo
5
42%
Voters: falcon45ca, sig, Thunal33, nutella, sprityo
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Drone spoons (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
2
17%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 12

[Michelle]

Sprit is a good wagon

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

I mean they came into today and went rip me ig and haven't done much to stop the wagon momentum against them so yeah kinda

I don't mind killing slankers they should always be solved well before FX but I also don't think all the wolves are in the slankers and that seems to be what your implying

[Thunal33]

@S~V~S I thought I saw you voting yourself earlier when you were a wagon.Why did you do that?

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

Is it really that hard to catch onto

Like read my progression on Pyxxy and why and when it changed i don't think it's very well hidden lol but I'm not gonna say it

[falcon45ca]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

I mean they came into today and went rip me ig and haven't done much to stop the wagon momentum against them so yeah kinda

I don't mind killing slankers they should always be solved well before FX but I also don't think all the wolves are in the slankers and that seems to be what your implying

It's a POE of 3, I'm not sure how you took that I believe the whole team are slankers from that




Do I believe all 3 are Maf? Doubtful




Do I believe 1,2 of em' are? Ya betcha

[falcon45ca]

I've been watchin' a lotta Fargo as of late btw, it's rubbin' off

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

sell me on cape?

i think his thought processes have seemed real but have also ended in some pretty wild takes recently

D2 was odd.

The stance that 4/4 was T and let's prevent the worst T loss feels 1 of 2 ways:
1. We're either buddying or TMI-ing this group of 4 as correct wolf.
2. Manipulating off actual solving within said group of 4 regardless of what we had to vote.

it results in a 'well I didn't vote for the W in this group of 4 because I didn't think there was a wolf' OR it results in a 'Oh look T flip, who would've seen this coming' stance.

I guess the best way to put it, is I felt it created the safest situation for cape with the least investment.

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

Is it really that hard to catch onto

Like read my progression on Pyxxy and why and when it changed i don't think it's very well hidden lol but I'm not gonna say it

I'm still very much abstracted from the game. I'm hoping that I can fix some of this soon, but work and kids have been all consuming on the time front.

[DrWilgy]

I also feel like Wilgy's vote on me makes very little sense. Me collaborating with someone in my PoE really isn't scummy, if anything it's towny. Look at the voters on my wagon no matter what happens, I really doubt that group of Wilgy, sig, and falcon is pure (leaving out Scotty).

This feels omgus.

I think I put it pretty clearly. You reaching out to pyx when you did reeked of "hey who do you sus, let's save each other."

It wasn't exploratory beyond that and made no sense given the context of your view on Pyx.

pyxxy did that to me way before I reached out to him and I had my vote on him the whole time I was collaborating him. Do you sus pyxxy on that?

When Pyx advised let's talk about mech I didn't read it as the same.

your

@pyxxy who do you suspect right now in the poll? Because I feel like I have to vote you because I want to save myself and I townread Roxy and SVS. Do you suspect either of those?

is strictly hanging votes over pyx on the eventual line of 'hey let's not cross' mk?

[sprityo]

Yeah, I don’t have the time or ability to keep up so I’m better off out of the game

In third party marker, I leave the game when half or more living players including myself are marked. I have a one shot BP vest

I targeted Tony night 1 and falcon last night

I take my leave now and wish you all best of luck

And for integrity [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

Cape90 - W
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - W
falcon45ca - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - T
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
S~V~S - T
Scotty - T
sig - T
nutella - W
sprityo - W
Thunal33 - T

@Cape90 @DarlingMonroe @DrWilgy @nutella @sprityo



Imma vote for one of you, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on each other

See above for cape. D2 approach was jank.

DM isn't here more so than me.

I'm a beautiful being who just really wants to find which friend tastes like a pearlized silver painted dandelion

Nutella I could vote now that I think on it, I didn't like how they ended on Roxy with no answers with the '4 town' conclusion. There were instances of D2 that appeared within Nutella's normal solving, but there was no 'getting there.'

Sprit I could vote for, everything was lukewarm mech talk as far as I could tell and I didn't see any solvy lines coming from the slot.

[DrWilgy]

I've caught up on replies and will probably try to sort mech nonsense now.

[Scotty]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

Is it really that hard to catch onto

Like read my progression on Pyxxy and why and when it changed i don't think it's very well hidden lol but I'm not gonna say it

I mean I also don’t see it fwiw.

It’s not like it’s something he told you, as he’s as chatty as a rock

[Scotty]

Yeah, I don’t have the time or ability to keep up so I’m better off out of the game

In third party marker, I leave the game when half or more living players including myself are marked. I have a one shot BP vest

I targeted Tony night 1 and falcon last night

I take my leave now and wish you all best of luck

And for integrity [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

This sounds very believable ngl

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You think the wolves just... aren't trying?

You think sprit isn't trying?



It's also D3 w/ no red flips, Imma def gonna start taggin' & votin' slankers, ya betcha

I mean they came into today and went rip me ig and haven't done much to stop the wagon momentum against them so yeah kinda

I don't mind killing slankers they should always be solved well before FX but I also don't think all the wolves are in the slankers and that seems to be what your implying

It's a POE of 3, I'm not sure how you took that I believe the whole team are slankers from that




Do I believe all 3 are Maf? Doubtful




Do I believe 1,2 of em' are? Ya betcha

I dunno how else I'm supposed to take it when you just drop 3 names

But yeah okay i get it

Find it highly unlikely but understand the perspective

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

Is it really that hard to catch onto

Like read my progression on Pyxxy and why and when it changed i don't think it's very well hidden lol but I'm not gonna say it

I mean I also don’t see it fwiw.

It’s not like it’s something he told you, as he’s as chatty as a rock

It had nothing to do with pyxxy themself to be clear

[Scotty]

Yeah, I don’t have the time or ability to keep up so I’m better off out of the game

In third party marker, I leave the game when half or more living players including myself are marked. I have a one shot BP vest

I targeted Tony night 1 and falcon last night

I take my leave now and wish you all best of luck

And for integrity [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

@falcon45ca @sig @Thunal33 @nutella thoughts on this?

[Scotty]

Wilgy find me a wolf

I'm still on the Thunal should've gone over yesterday train.

Pyx, Sprit, Sig and Cape are all effective options.

I think pyx is town for reasons

Even though I think pyxs play is just... very wolfy

why tho?

Is it really that hard to catch onto

Like read my progression on Pyxxy and why and when it changed i don't think it's very well hidden lol but I'm not gonna say it

I mean I also don’t see it fwiw.

It’s not like it’s something he told you, as he’s as chatty as a rock

It had nothing to do with pyxxy themself to be clear

Well that clears it up

I still have no idea what you’re referring to, though I’m not one to prod RE: pyxxy

[nutella]

Yeah, I don’t have the time or ability to keep up so I’m better off out of the game

In third party marker, I leave the game when half or more living players including myself are marked. I have a one shot BP vest

I targeted Tony night 1 and falcon last night

I take my leave now and wish you all best of luck

And for integrity [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

@falcon45ca @sig @Thunal33 @nutella thoughts on this?

bleh

[nutella]

it feels kind of lame to use another elim on 3p but