The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[Long Con]

If I were a bomb I would be looking for ways to go off.

[Porscha]

eh, maybe

like maybe she cared less about dying at the very least

[Michelle]

And, like Scotty said, she was bussed.

[Michelle]

I need to hear from @pyxxy and @DarlingMonroe more toDay

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: show

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Poll runs till Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:00 am
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Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
2
29%
Voters: Michelle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆
0
No votes
Voters: None
pyxxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
2
29%
Voters: Long Con, Cape90
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hardboiled Dicks? Seriously? (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
43%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Epignosis
Total votes: 7

[Long Con]

eh, maybe

like maybe she cared less about dying at the very least

Like, maybe? I think she didn't protest her elimination at all, really. It was a surprisingly lackluster EoD considering a Wolf was on the hook for most of the Day - in spirit if not in reflected votes, given the 3rd-party nature of sprityo's alleged role.

Hm. Speaking of which, @☆Princess Abigail☆, very brave of you to confirm Thunal's Town status, considering the Wolves woill come after you as our resident Town rolechecker. Very good. We could discuss who you'd check next, but I have no doubt that the Wolves would prioritize your death even over Thunal's. Salut.

Anyway, sprityo's alleged role. I can't discount the idea that there was a mega-malaise due to a thread where it was "sprityo with the excellently tailored fakeclaim" against "toxic zombie nutella". I don't think I quite believe that, because sprityo's claim feels comfortably believable, but there isn't a shred of evidence that it's true. Jury's still out.

[Porscha]

eh, maybe

like maybe she cared less about dying at the very least

Like, maybe? I think she didn't protest her elimination at all, really. It was a surprisingly lackluster EoD considering a Wolf was on the hook for most of the Day - in spirit if not in reflected votes, given the 3rd-party nature of sprityo's alleged role.

Hm. Speaking of which, @☆Princess Abigail☆, very brave of you to confirm Thunal's Town status, considering the Wolves woill come after you as our resident Town rolechecker. Very good. We could discuss who you'd check next, but I have no doubt that the Wolves would prioritize your death even over Thunal's. Salut.

Anyway, sprityo's alleged role. I can't discount the idea that there was a mega-malaise due to a thread where it was "sprityo with the excellently tailored fakeclaim" against "toxic zombie nutella". I don't think I quite believe that, because sprityo's claim feels comfortably believable, but there isn't a shred of evidence that it's true. Jury's still out.

can you reword/reiterate what the last section of your post is saying

or maybe im missing the conclusion / point?

[Michelle]

I have an idea about LCs intention but I want him to explain it.

[Michelle]

The multi quote button doesn't work.

I wanted to quote Cape with his deep wolf tinfoil. I want details about the safety feeling of my play (idk if that's correct in English but you get it ig) @Cape90

[Michelle]

No changes in votes? As expected tho, no one plays in my day time

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The poll yesterday:

—————————————
Nutella (8):
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Thunal33, Long Con, Michelle, Scotty, Cape90, S~V~S, DrWilgy

sprityo (4):
Voters: falcon45ca, sig, nutella, sprityo

Thunal33 (1):
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆

Not voting (2): pyxxy (presumably couldn’t vote), Porscha

Immediate thoughts:
Thunal33 green checked. SVS dead. I’m town. Leaves Michelle, LC, DM, Cape and Wilgy


Wilgy:

[VOTE: nut] aubergine

Lightly skimming.

DM showing up and putting sprit ahead felt like shenanigans, but now nuts ahead by two and that also feels like shenanigans.

way to vote nutella with a qualifier, putting doubt on the vote. I don’t like this vote. Scumread from this vote.

Cape:

@nutella by the way, what changed in terms of your Thunal read day 2, you went from scumreading them to then calling all 4 on the wagon town, noticed this overnight but forgot to ask you and you never explained today

I like this call out. It comes after a slight reads list and brings attention to Nutella unnecessarily.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

nutella writing legacy

vote for nutella came a bit at last minute as a tack on vote on a runaway wagon, but I don’t hate it. Townlean for this vote, but only slightly.


DM:

Pick a number 1 - 4

3

Do I vote out Nutella or Sprityo, Princess Abigail?

asking someone, who she said is one of the top town reads, who to vote? Good look I suppose,

in case I missed it

[VOTE: nutella ] aubergine

7th vote on the runaway train is pretty meh. Scumlean slightly,


LC:

I feel like the thread is kind of blocked up, hopefully a nutella yeet will give us something more to go on for Night 3. Finding one Wolf can sometimes be the key!

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

This comes after casing and voting for Wilgy in his own. Nutella was at the bottom 3 of his reads list with Wilgy and sprityo, and he was the 6th vote for nut. This tracks, and he could have left his vote or even voted sprityo but he didn’t. Townlean.


Michelle:

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Michelle was the first to vote nutella if knowledge serves me. Never wavers. This vote is just good, and I already highly townread Michelle. Town.


In order of nutella voters I would vote:
Wilgy > DM > Cape > LC > Michelle

DM wasn't on Nut until I told them to vote Nut when they asked me who to vote fwiw

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I do not like this vote... I have reasons to think sig is town, but I want to see him do more

Reasons include:
-if thunal is mafia, #1527 is clearing. I am paranoid why mafia is not killing Thunal ngl, even after nutella advocating for thunal to die day 2, if thunal is mafia, i think the push on thunal is maybe telling, like there was another busser there maybe?
-the kinda arbitrary reason to hop onto the sprityo bw? (this could go either way but slightly lean town)
-anti-consensus stuff

Brother I green checked Thunal move on

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Nut was almost 1000% bussed the run away train the role it all points to bussing

DM is likely not the busser as they were not voting Nut and voted Spirit until they asked me who to vote and I told them to vote Nut

Certainly weirds me out asking specifically me they stated a town read on me and perchance that's why but they never expanded on that though granted i didn't ask I'm kinda willing to just call DM town here right now

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I realize I'm voting off wagon so lol me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I dunno I kinda think Wilgy is a wolf here but it feels bad to push that when SVS died and was repping a shield on Wilgy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I have my always present tinfoil on LC but I'm not gonna push that I trust others this game can conceivably read LC better than I and can do so without any fear of bias which I have

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I am concerned about Michelle I think how they tried to shade me for my pyxxy progression and tried to get me to out info I was clearly hiding with a purpose is pretty generically wolfy

I haven't really been compelled to town read them since day 1 but I've been holding onto it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My Porscha read continues but much like Michelle I'm struggling to like find reasons to maintain it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Spirit is 3p but should be dealt with sorry spirit

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Thunal is green checked

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Scotty is lock town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Cape I've been finding wolfy but I think cape completely missing that I was checking Thunal both yesterday when it was pointed out and today when I was actively saying it is... probably towny?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Somewhat concerned though because like...why didn't wolves kill me before i could make a literal IC?

It was openly stated in thread i was cop checking a miskill target... why wouldn't wolves stop that in some variety killing me is decidedly beneficial for them

Some part of me wonders if they simply aren't paying attention

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Alright see you later

[Scotty]

And, like Scotty said, she was bussed.

And as Abbi said, she probably welcomed bussers with open arms. The question becomes- when did they plant the vote?

[Scotty]

I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

Pyxxy should check in today.

Ideally we learn more today

[Scotty]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[sprityo]

Spirit is 3p but should be dealt with sorry spirit

No no you’re valid for this

[Michelle]

I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

You implied a town check on pyxxy because you couldn't explain the town read.
The idea of role fishing from me is ridiculous because I am not doing regardless. But I am always asking about the reason of a weird read waiting for a logical answer and you refused to provide it, hiding behind the accusation of role fishing. If anything, it was you who showed your cards to the wolves.

Since it's obvious now that you never checked pyxxy, I don't trust any green check on a deep wolf read because mafia has a few possibilities to evade a cop check, for eg with godfather, busdriver, and I am sure we can find a few more tricks on their sleeve.

[Thunal33]

i wouldnt be surprised if part of nutella's unhappiness was from having low activity teammates

Or not being able to push anyone. She kept being frustrated by not having a confident push and I think she felt like too many townies were being towny and she was boxed in.

[Thunal33]

I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

You implied a town check on pyxxy because you couldn't explain the town read.
The idea of role fishing from me is ridiculous because I am not doing regardless. But I am always asking about the reason of a weird read waiting for a logical answer and you refused to provide it, hiding behind the accusation of role fishing. If anything, it was you who showed your cards to the wolves.

Since it's obvious now that you never checked pyxxy, I don't trust any green check on a deep wolf read because mafia has a few possibilities to evade a cop check, for eg with godfather, busdriver, and I am sure we can find a few more tricks on their sleeve.

I never took pyxxy as Abi's green check, I thought Abi was townreading pyxxy because he was silenced. Scotty however probably has some good looking mech on pyxxy.

[Long Con]

Solid, @Scotty walk that good-lookin' mech down the catwalk for us!

[Michelle]

I never read from Abi a post saying pyxxy is town because he was silenced.
I will check in her ISO even if I hate to do it on phone

[Long Con]

I have an idea about LCs intention but I want him to explain it.

What shall I explain?

[Long Con]

eh, maybe

like maybe she cared less about dying at the very least

Like, maybe? I think she didn't protest her elimination at all, really. It was a surprisingly lackluster EoD considering a Wolf was on the hook for most of the Day - in spirit if not in reflected votes, given the 3rd-party nature of sprityo's alleged role.

Hm. Speaking of which, @☆Princess Abigail☆, very brave of you to confirm Thunal's Town status, considering the Wolves woill come after you as our resident Town rolechecker. Very good. We could discuss who you'd check next, but I have no doubt that the Wolves would prioritize your death even over Thunal's. Salut.

Anyway, sprityo's alleged role. I can't discount the idea that there was a mega-malaise due to a thread where it was "sprityo with the excellently tailored fakeclaim" against "toxic zombie nutella". I don't think I quite believe that, because sprityo's claim feels comfortably believable, but there isn't a shred of evidence that it's true. Jury's still out.

can you reword/reiterate what the last section of your post is saying

or maybe im missing the conclusion / point?

There is no evidence that sprityo isn't a Wolf making it all up.

[Michelle]

Anyways someone explain why pyxxy is town with actual reasons that aren't mech spec or "micro things"

<3 uwu

For one: I liked his willingness to die yesterday. It was a falling on the sword type of thing.

For another: I have other vague reasons

I find vague reasons hardly compelling and being "willing to die" also not very compelling as wolves can put on a show

The amount of times I've watched caught wolves go free for things like being willing to die or not self prezzing is innumerable

I think your town but I also think you've been vaguely defending pyxxy since as early as day 1 and... their day 1 was just hyper bad

The world where I understand your confidence on pyxxy would make a lot more sense to me if it didn't start day 1

This is about pyxxy, there's nothing mech included imo

[Michelle]

I have an idea about LCs intention but I want him to explain it.

What shall I explain?

what you did in the very next post, sir :hattip:

[Long Con]

Yeah, sprityo has to die before F3, there's no way around it. Ideally we won't reach F3.

[Michelle]

You let pyxxy live for his willingness to die.
Sprityo self voting created the same reason of reading so he survived yesterday.
Maybe the lack of energy of the last Eod was generated by w/w wagons but we don't know without chopping Sprit.

[Michelle]

I am voting Falcon until I see him posting something.

Or maybe not and switch later

Spoiler: show

He can be silenced though

[Scotty]

Random associative notes in my Nutella iso:

Spoiler: show

I don’t feel at any point Nutella was in anti-spew. She didn’t have a lead over sprint until the last 45 min of the day, and didn’t post much to defend herself, so let’s delve into her associations.

Also, let’s look at her treatment of sprit:
-votes him early on D3. NEVER CHANGES
-backs it up with “sprit: is my vote, did not like his entry today and iirc roxy flip doesnt look good for him”
-seems genuinely surprised when he makes a 3p claim

I’m willing to bet the game that Nutella is not aligned with sprit and that he is in fact a 3p. Whether or not he is a mafia-leaning 3p that’s to be determined.

Moving on,,,

you..do not get it

This is one of several post where Nutella seems to get spicy and shows visceral signs of frustration towards *Porscha*.

I just don’t think the wolf does this to their partner in open field like this. This screams lack of communication that could be handled in BTSC but is just not: I don’t think Porscha is teamed.

“today i am interested in looking at sprityo and porscha the most”

Yeah, porscha not teamed.

DM OUT OF NOWHERE

Bringing attention to DM’s post is a big green flag for DM imo.

I don't think LC is towny

maybe people who were here on D1 have reason to feel he was but I am not seeing it

This came towards eod when nut was 4 v sprit’s 5 votes. Not a lot of suspicion here prior to this, so this could be a distancing tactic. I’m currently leaning not tho, and a plus for LC.

I must also note that Nutella made that post regarding LC with no pretense and LC was voting Wilgy at the time…more of an indictment of Wilgy tbh

Also Sprit is a good vote and I don't understand how/why Pyxxy was saved yesterday

I saw many actions failed. That means mafia has an ability to make town fail like a total block? I don't think a role cop is the reason of TSP dying, I think he died for his pushes.

Possibly. I don’t usually do NKA, as I feel like it gets too into WIFOM territory, but I’ll take a look at his iso as a starting point tomorrow

I do not think tsp died for his pushes I rather think that's an insane take

TSPs ability is possibly the most powerful in this game and goes into effect today

You want me to believe the wolves just got lucky killing one of the most dangerous abilities against them the day it would go into effect

Like it's not hard to realize that

Who the heck was tsp even pushing? I don't remember I don't think they ever had the thread position too be a threat

yeah I'm not sure I remember a single tsp post, the role cop theory would explain it most

Seems to agree about the role cop, ergo, there’s probably not a role cop and they had hunches TSP could just be a good role/kill regardless.

Cape90 - W
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - W
falcon45ca - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - T
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
S~V~S - T
Scotty - T
sig - T
nutella - W
sprityo - W
Thunal33 - T

@Cape90 @DarlingMonroe @DrWilgy @nutella @sprityo



Imma vote for one of you, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on each other

cape: less confident in his towniness than earlier, had some weird takes but he sometimes just has weird takes as town. possible deep wolf candidate but not pursuing today
dm: non-entity
wilgy: seemed to have his standard loose/in-and-out but genuine energy, ok for now
sprit: is my vote, did not like his entry today and iirc roxy flip doesnt look good for him

question lobbed from falcon. You know, it’s funny, Nutella never mentions or gives reads on falcon directly. In turn, falcon says he is going to vote for one of those 5 and leaves it on sprityo. None of that is a great look.

bleh

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine

i feel like theyre all town lol

Day 2 vote. SVS/roxy confirmed town. Thunal presumed green check. That leave pyxxy, who I strongly believe to be town. This comment just strengthens that. I also believe that Nutella feels this way.

Abi is probably mafia.

why

This is *checks notes* the only interaction Nutella has with sig. A whole lotta nothing there. Super compatible, borderline red flag.

Scotty
SVS
Cape
Michelle

Abi
Roxy
TSP
Long Con

Porscha
nutella
Falcon

sprityo
DM
Wilgy
pyxxy
sig

i can't help but think that your contributions have been really "safe" as scotty has said

but maybe the game is just easy and the safe takes are right

i don't really follow your progression on porscha though

Pushing back against Thunal for having safe takes. Muddies the water there. Could be that Thunal is correct in her assessment.

ok i have read eod, main takeaway is it feels like something is fishy about the roxy/sprityo interaction in some direction, also don't like tsp's vibe so far

town
svs
michelle
abbi
cape

town?
thunal
porscha
scotty
long con

meh
pyxxy
sig
wilgy

bleh
tsp
darling
roxy
sprityo

Now let’s use this D2 post as a barometer.

-Her ‘bleh’ almost assuredly has all town/3p.
-The ‘meh’ almost assuredly has at least 1 or both of her teammates
-if she split up her fake reads, one of LC/Cape/Michelle are in the town? or town piles.

Not teamed with Nutella:
-Porscha
-sprityo
-Abbi
-DM
-pyxxy

Probably not teamed with Nutella:
-LC
-Cape
-Michelle

Definitely teammate compatible:
-falcon
-sig

Biggest red flags:
-Wilgy

[Porscha]

i wouldnt be surprised if part of nutella's unhappiness was from having low activity teammates

Or not being able to push anyone. She kept being frustrated by not having a confident push and I think she felt like too many townies were being towny and she was boxed in.

Plenty of pushable people lol...

[Scotty]

Spirit is 3p but should be dealt with sorry spirit

No no you’re valid for this

My biggest fear with you, sprityo, is that your role explanation is only half true and you’re this guy:

Arsonist

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Spirit is 3p but should be dealt with sorry spirit

No no you’re valid for this

You make my desire to ruthlessly execute you disappear

[Scotty]

No one has to read my digging in my associations post, but I do entreat that you look at specifically Nutella’s treatment of sprityo and determine for yourself if that is wolf on wolf.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I still wolf read pyxxy

I have never stopped wolf reading pyxxy I stopped pushing pyxxy and called them town off the back of my conversation with scotty

I was trying to signal something to scotty his response implied to me I should trust his read but his responses at EoD implied i misread what he was saying so we move on Pyxxys vote on me was incredibly wolfy day 1

I also wolf read falcon and sig I just can't find reasons to town read either

You implied a town check on pyxxy because you couldn't explain the town read.
The idea of role fishing from me is ridiculous because I am not doing regardless. But I am always asking about the reason of a weird read waiting for a logical answer and you refused to provide it, hiding behind the accusation of role fishing. If anything, it was you who showed your cards to the wolves.

Since it's obvious now that you never checked pyxxy, I don't trust any green check on a deep wolf read because mafia has a few possibilities to evade a cop check, for eg with godfather, busdriver, and I am sure we can find a few more tricks on their sleeve.

No I implied I was trusting something said in thread as I repeatedly stated and you repeatedly tried to force me to out

Specifically something I thought Scotty was saying to me when I signaled to them that I'd only trust there read if it started d2 but I recalled it starting day 1 at which point Scotty said I think you'll find it started day 2

Wowee I wonder what I thought that meant

But you trying to force me to out what I was looking at when it is actively harmful for me to do is wolfy. Town obfuscate info in mafia all the time for the betterment of town forcing that out is actively wolfy.

You trying to discredit green checks is also actively wolfy.

[Long Con]

Maybe the lack of energy of the last Eod was generated by w/w wagons but we don't know without chopping Sprit.

That is a more succinct summary of that 'last paragraph' in my post earlier.

[Michelle]

No one has to read my digging in my associations post, but I do entreat that you look at specifically Nutella’s treatment of sprityo and determine for yourself if that is wolf on wolf.

I am going to read her ISO, I read your post but I need to check myself.