The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[pyxxy]

Pyxxy/Cape +1? Maybe Falcon? Sprityo?

I am going to sleep on it.

Have you explained why you think I'm scum?

yesterday you were cool to give me time

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I can give pyxxy time

but today you're not really interested in reading my posts, you're just down to keep me in the POE while the thread actually tries to investigate Falcon and talk with Abby about Sprityo

Pyxxy is mafia imo

Idk who he targeted last night, let's say it was for real LC.
If he was also correct about the previous night, he targeted Thunal.

With what town role could he target the claimed (not cc-ed) protective role?

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine this is OMGUS to express my frustration with you

[pyxxy]

and like for my real vote since Abby says she has +3 then like truly it doesn't matter but I would like to see Falcon do _something_

[pyxxy]

eh fuck it [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

squawk ya filthy animal

[Porscha]

I have to say I targeted LC last night.
My action did not go through. Idk if that has any mech impact on his role.

Similar thing happened with me, I targeted DM yesterday, I don't think it did anything, would not have even if DM was alive.

I targeted her only because it was a safe option. Unless visiting her means she dies, I didn't kill her

Wasn't DM a bodyguard? It's the other way around and you should know it

sig was the bodyguard, dm had the mass role block

[Porscha]

sorry I ask because you were worried about soup. if you are no longer worried about soup, then cards on the table and all that

I've been open claiming my role for days I've never been worried about soup lol

bleh sorry maybe I got it confused with your role cop thoughts

I swear someone was talking about soup at some point

I'm a neighborizer. I target someone and get a BTSC with them for a day + night

N1, Scotty - success
N2, Long Con - failed
N3, Thunal - failed
N4, Long Con - failed since LC is dead

I talked with Scotty on D2 about who to target next and he suggested Long Con. I agreed with his reasoning so I did. And that's why I doubled back to target LC again on N4.

@pyxxy thunal died eod day 3... you couldn't target her n3

[Porscha]

wait i'm stupid she was alive day 4 its day 5 lol

[Porscha]

ok... so the same night that abi got a check on thunal, thunal also could not be neighborized with pyxxy... ok?

[pyxxy]

wait i'm stupid she was alive day 4 its day 5 lol

I wasn't gonna say it -- I've screwed up enough day math myself

[Porscha]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

[Scotty]

I have to say I targeted LC last night.
My action did not go through. Idk if that has any mech impact on his role.

Similar thing happened with me, I targeted DM yesterday, I don't think it did anything, would not have even if DM was alive.

I targeted her only because it was a safe option. Unless visiting her means she dies, I didn't kill her

Do you not know what your role does?

[Scotty]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

I’ve been letting the thread simmer so that what I have to say wouldn’t color anyone’s reads.

So what I’ve heard from last night is:
Michelle: targeted LC, but was blocked.
Cape: targeted DM, rip.
Pyxxy: targeted LC, rip.
Sprityo: targeted ???, seemingly succeeded
Abby: targeted….?…and vote is worth 3 today.

Did I miss any mech today? @DrWilgy did you do anything/anything happen to you?

[Scotty]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

[Scotty]

@pyxxy why do you think Wilgy was the NK target? I might have missed it

[Scotty]

@pyxxy why do you think Wilgy was the NK target? I might have missed it

And as a follow up, can you share whether there are any *secrets* in your role description? Like something you’re unaware of?

[pyxxy]

@pyxxy why do you think Wilgy was the NK target? I might have missed it

And as a follow up, can you share whether there are any *secrets* in your role description? Like something you’re unaware of?

no secrets aka no **Secrets** section

answer to Wilgy question is here:

That or the wolves just aren't reading cause like my clear died and was proven and I was most certainly not attacked last night lol

did you see Long Con's mech, pretty sure it might explain some things re: NKA

Well if you visited him last night then I imagine he wouldn't have died to "needy" ?

Pyxxy contradicting themself again? Say it ain't so

didn't you preach something about the simplest solution is the best back on D2 or whatever?

I'll just say my guess then, I think Long Con saved Wigly by redirecting the NK off Wilgy onto DM + LC dies in the process

I think Long Con's EOD hints at this combination pretty heavily once you read his role powers

why scum tried to NK Wilgy? no fucking clue. but there's been prot kill dodging all game. maybe it is random like you theorized

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compare my theory here to your mech idea which relies on another vig role existing, but it's not one of your JOAT power? even thought TSP's was a vig tacked onto another role, so I could see a second vig being part of a JOAT

unless straight up this is what you're lying about

I've read up and my mech explanation makes way more sense than anyone else's

I think it was another protection dodge, most likely

I guess also if scum saw Long Con's hinting and thought LC might visit Wilgy, they might get a double kill, which would be less prot dodge and more free upside

weakest part is if it was a prot dodge, again if because no proof, I haven't got any leads on what scum would do that, other than active scum who are closely reading the thread

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyways important news Wendy's has thin mint frosty

holy

I know!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

It's that pyxxy is a wolf wheeee

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

I’ve been letting the thread simmer so that what I have to say wouldn’t color anyone’s reads.

So what I’ve heard from last night is:
Michelle: targeted LC, but was blocked.
Cape: targeted DM, rip.
Pyxxy: targeted LC, rip.
Sprityo: targeted ???, seemingly succeeded
Abby: targeted….?…and vote is worth 3 today.

Did I miss any mech today? @DrWilgy did you do anything/anything happen to you?

I targeted myself to be clear wheeee

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

There's about 0 worlds where I think the wolves targeted wilgy a miskill option with a night kill ever

[Scotty]

I’m having a hard time getting through the hoops of pyxxy not lying about being silenced D3.
And what town reason would he lie about being silenced?

No, I think with DM’s role reveal, and that over 4 different people said their actions were blocked on N2 (including pyxxy), there is no other explanation unless mafia has th ability to manually block everyone.

My feeling is pyxxy was caught in a lie. I think he figured he saw the multiple silences on D2 and figured it might be safe to hide out for D3, a day after he was one of the top wagons. And with DM’s reveal where NO ACTIONS could act, he has no option but to double down.

That’s why I was asking about any secrets. Because it would be *possible* for a latent, non-ability to trigger and he would be silenced. But no logic exists for that mechanic in this game regarding a silence.

Sorry, pyxxy. I think we got you.





And that’s not even included in the fountain of mech I’ve been compiling this whole game. That’s just an observation



Am I off base?

[Porscha]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

oh... I thought you specifically knew my role... lmfao

[Porscha]

my role is day use and i have not used it. well, I did try the day nutella died, but uh. nutella died, so then nothing happened. lol

[Scotty]

@pyxxy why do you think Wilgy was the NK target? I might have missed it

And as a follow up, can you share whether there are any *secrets* in your role description? Like something you’re unaware of?

no secrets aka no **Secrets** section

answer to Wilgy question is here:

That or the wolves just aren't reading cause like my clear died and was proven and I was most certainly not attacked last night lol

did you see Long Con's mech, pretty sure it might explain some things re: NKA

Well if you visited him last night then I imagine he wouldn't have died to "needy" ?

Pyxxy contradicting themself again? Say it ain't so

didn't you preach something about the simplest solution is the best back on D2 or whatever?

I'll just say my guess then, I think Long Con saved Wigly by redirecting the NK off Wilgy onto DM + LC dies in the process

I think Long Con's EOD hints at this combination pretty heavily once you read his role powers

why scum tried to NK Wilgy? no fucking clue. but there's been prot kill dodging all game. maybe it is random like you theorized

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compare my theory here to your mech idea which relies on another vig role existing, but it's not one of your JOAT power? even thought TSP's was a vig tacked onto another role, so I could see a second vig being part of a JOAT

unless straight up this is what you're lying about

I've read up and my mech explanation makes way more sense than anyone else's

I think it was another protection dodge, most likely

I guess also if scum saw Long Con's hinting and thought LC might visit Wilgy, they might get a double kill, which would be less prot dodge and more free upside

weakest part is if it was a prot dodge, again if because no proof, I haven't got any leads on what scum would do that, other than active scum who are closely reading the thread

I’m still missing something. What does Wilgy have to do with LC’s reads?

[Porscha]

and it's kind of fucked to attempt to use it this far into the game, it has a too much risk involved, so I dont plan on using it

[Scotty]

my role is day use and i have not used it. well, I did try the day nutella died, but uh. nutella died, so then nothing happened. lol

The amount of times I have heard in this game ‘my ability didn’t work’ is astounding. But, like, sometimes the bread gets moldy on the same day you buy it.

[Scotty]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

oh... I thought you specifically knew my role... lmfao

Nope, now all I know is you have a day ability.

Why would I know it?

[Porscha]

my role is day use and i have not used it. well, I did try the day nutella died, but uh. nutella died, so then nothing happened. lol

The amount of times I have heard in this game ‘my ability didn’t work’ is astounding. But, like, sometimes the bread gets moldy on the same day you buy it.

well, it's a day action. that needed nutella to be alive at end of day to work. which she was not. lol

[Porscha]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

oh... I thought you specifically knew my role... lmfao

Nope, now all I know is you have a day ability.

Why would I know it?

you're gonna laugh, but you saying you gave me your stereo... was ... so related to my role, that I thought you were softing that you knew my role. lol

[Porscha]

scotty what's your role like? I don't think you've shared anything either

[Scotty]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

oh... I thought you specifically knew my role... lmfao

Nope, now all I know is you have a day ability.

Why would I know it?

you're gonna laugh, but you saying you gave me your stereo... was ... so related to my role, that I thought you were softing that you knew my role. lol

In that case, oh yeah. I knew the whole time!

You’re John Cusack from Say Anything Mafia! We ran that one right?

[Porscha]

there's some bullshit mech occurring and if someone has info as to what may or may not have occurred they should out it with HASTE!

Also, what the hell do you do anyway? I don’t think you’ve shared a shred of your role thus far

oh... I thought you specifically knew my role... lmfao

Nope, now all I know is you have a day ability.

Why would I know it?

you're gonna laugh, but you saying you gave me your stereo... was ... so related to my role, that I thought you were softing that you knew my role. lol

In that case, oh yeah. I knew the whole time!

You’re John Cusack from Say Anything Mafia! We ran that one right?

I know we wolfed in a game together and won... I dont remember the name of it though lol. might have been that one

[pyxxy]

I think it was another protection dodge, most likely

I guess also if scum saw Long Con's hinting and thought LC might visit Wilgy, they might get a double kill, which would be less prot dodge and more free upside

weakest part is if it was a prot dodge, again if because no proof, I haven't got any leads on what scum would do that, other than active scum who are closely reading the thread

I’m still missing something. What does Wilgy have to do with LC’s reads?

this exchange (open the spoiler, which I did for Michelle)

Spoiler: show

These are all very reasonable concerns. If you are willing to put a pin in it for now, I think we can work together and find wolves.

Sure thing.

o.O

ok you two

what can I say, LC's cute?

do you have a larger trust in LC that I might if I was caught up? or is this mech winking? or both?

guess I'll iso LC next

No, not at all. I'm pretty sure LC is a wolf.

You'll feel differently in the future. Your work today has made me comfortable putting you in my townreads, though, so already a positive result there IMO.

and idk what else to say re: silence

[Scotty]

I think it was another protection dodge, most likely

I guess also if scum saw Long Con's hinting and thought LC might visit Wilgy, they might get a double kill, which would be less prot dodge and more free upside

weakest part is if it was a prot dodge, again if because no proof, I haven't got any leads on what scum would do that, other than active scum who are closely reading the thread

I’m still missing something. What does Wilgy have to do with LC’s reads?

this exchange (open the spoiler, which I did for Michelle)

Spoiler: show

Sure thing.

o.O

ok you two

what can I say, LC's cute?

do you have a larger trust in LC that I might if I was caught up? or is this mech winking? or both?

guess I'll iso LC next

No, not at all. I'm pretty sure LC is a wolf.

You'll feel differently in the future. Your work today has made me comfortable putting you in my townreads, though, so already a positive result there IMO.

and idk what else to say re: silence

So…why would mafia choose to kill Wilgy from that exchange? That seems so vanilla. I just don’t get where you pulled Wilgy from

[sprityo]

There's about 0 worlds where I think the wolves targeted wilgy a miskill option with a night kill ever

Yeah agree

LC almost definitely targeted Scotty or Abby if he was protecting/busdriving/whatever it was

[pyxxy]

I pulled Wilgy from extrapolating Long Con's death as his redirect killing him, and guessing that Long Con targeted Wilgy given Long Con's EOD conversation with Wilgy

I'm not saying it's fact. But it's what I'm seeing. Abby popped in to disagree

There's about 0 worlds where I think the wolves targeted wilgy a miskill option with a night kill ever

but didn't offer more thoughts yet. Plenty of time though.

[pyxxy]

hm okay Sprit agreeing so maybe I've got a real convoluted world view but I thought Wilgy was like solidly town read yesterday by the thread

[sprityo]

Wilgy is a low-key player, so I don’t know many times where he’s lock town or high trust town since he plays at a low-medium output. I’m kinda like that too.

That being said, regardless of how he usually plays, is that there are other people just in this game who are performing better than wilgy as town leaders

[Scotty]

hm okay Sprit agreeing so maybe I've got a real convoluted world view but I thought Wilgy was like solidly town read yesterday by the thread

I think there’s some miscommunication maybe with you misunderstanding LC’s role implication:
“Meddlesome: You can redirect someone’s target, but whatever it is also happens to you.”
It seems like LC targets a player, and whoever that player targeted is then redirected onto a player of LC’s choice.

Right?

[Scotty]

Which is why I’m confused why you’re implying mafia would ever target Wilgy of all people.

[sprityo]

hm okay Sprit agreeing so maybe I've got a real convoluted world view but I thought Wilgy was like solidly town read yesterday by the thread

I think there’s some miscommunication maybe with you misunderstanding LC’s role implication:
“Meddlesome: You can redirect someone’s target, but whatever it is also happens to you.”
It seems like LC targets a player, and whoever that player targeted is then redirected onto a player of LC’s choice.

Right?

Yeah but he also takes whatever is happening, like a bodyguard in the case of the mafia kill

[Scotty]

hm okay Sprit agreeing so maybe I've got a real convoluted world view but I thought Wilgy was like solidly town read yesterday by the thread

I think there’s some miscommunication maybe with you misunderstanding LC’s role implication:
“Meddlesome: You can redirect someone’s target, but whatever it is also happens to you.”
It seems like LC targets a player, and whoever that player targeted is then redirected onto a player of LC’s choice.

Right?

Yeah but he also takes whatever is happening, like a bodyguard in the case of the mafia kill

Yeah, no that is agreed on. I was just talking about the conviction on why Wilgy was the target. I think pyxxy got confuddled with the wording.

[Scotty]

Pyxallicious, did you get what I was throwing down yesterday btw?

[pyxxy]

back in a bit will re-read but yeah maybe I read the role entirely wrong

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Nah, actually this

[VOTE: sprite] aubergine

[Scotty]

Nah, actually this

[VOTE: sprite] aubergine

Do you still suspect me?

Give me more. You’re starting to sound like an actual bird who doesn’t get a jury summons because you’re a bird and can’t talk

[Scotty]

Sprityo, I don’t suppose you would want to disclose who your target was last night, would you? If we can find a common ground, that would probably be it.

[Scotty]

scotty what's your role like? I don't think you've shared anything either

My role is mostly useless. Mostly.

But it’s not what my role does more than what I know in the game.

So I guess now’s as good a time as any at the 24 hour mark:

-I targeted LC on N2 with my ability and it was blocked. But wouldn’t ya know it, that still apparently triggered LC’s ‘A Trustworthy Friend.’ So I’ve been talking with him since the start of D3. Since it wasn’t an action, we weren’t blocked when that happened. So that’s cool.

LC has been busy this game, and I owe all this info to him to pass on as the provincial Town Crier:

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He did in fact take the ‘Block every night’ and the ‘redirect’ ability. He blocked Nutella N1, and you’ll find that he left little breadcrumbs in little codes saying exactly that. Whether or not that was the block or Thunal protected me, we don’t know. Could’ve been both.
N2 he blocked Wilgy.
N3 he inexplicably didn’t send in his action.
N4 he blocked Michelle, who has confirmed being blocked.

But the main thing- the thing he died for- was targeting falcon and redirecting falcon to target DM instead.

Falcon is confirmed wolf.

I’ve taken my time posting this in order to observe who has been softly defending falcon in a neutral setting.

Cape came out with pretty suspicious post of townreading falcon for no earthly reason but then focused his big whale eye on falcon/porscha and settling on falcon. So that’s a great look, as he started that wagon and falcon was in no danger.

Sprityo has come out committed to laying down some reads today. He’s fighting for his life and I fully believe he’s a 3p. Especially after being the 2nd on falcon in a low-voting first half of the day. His action failed N2 like the rest of us, when he supposedly targeted falcon. So this push makes sense. It doesn’t make any sense if he is mafia with falcon.

Pyxxy is a troublesome case. I like that he followed through with voting for falcon, but I’m having my reservations.
I admit we had an ice cream social on D2 and had some fun times doing behind the scenes mech talk, and his tone felt so genuine but here I feel like all of that comes to a screeching halt with this confessed silencing mech. I just can’t come to terms with this being a town thing. I unfortunately feel like the only two options are:
1) He was affected by an unknown, probably mafia-aligned ability that wasn’t an action, therefore not blocked for N2, or
2) He was just caught in a lie.

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So what does this all boil down to, Scotty?

We [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine today. Take out a wolf. NOT sprityo today @☆Princess Abigail☆.

We see if sprityo can get another target and maybe address that tomorrow with more info. I really don’t feel like even if he’s some form of nefarious wolf-siding role that we can lose tonight by letting him live another day. If he is, I’ll take that loss for the team. But I want to give him a bit of leeway.

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Feel free to look at the first 24 hours of the day with the lens that falcon is bad, and see if anyone sticks out. Besides falcon, of course, who is acting plenty wolfy today on his own lol


If anyone has any questions, I’ll be in my trailer.

[pyxxy]

hot diggity dog is my first takeaway

my second takeaway is that I got grumpy about other people's reading comprehension when in fact my own was the problem

and for that I am sorry

[Porscha]

btw scotty I wouldn't hard tr cape for his vote on falcon, he never would have done it if I didn't call him out on his 9 lines of BS first

also falcon is mega bussable lol