The Game of Champions 2024 [ENDGAME]

[Cape90]

...oh

well GG, guess my porscha guess was wrong, my secondary solve was correct, no wonder LC died in a night where he was the only one bringing attention to Wilgy

uhm yeah so i guess there's that

btw I was a roleblocker, why did my role and LC's role co-exist, idk

[Scotty]

I'm working, so anything I say here will be spotty for a couple of hours.

pyxxy and Wilgy were the remaining ones.

Oh whaaaaaa 3 mafia in this game?

Holy shit, that’s crazy. Like…everything points to only 3. 4 seems wildly unbalanced with these town roles holy shit

[sprityo]

Good game Sprit.

3p does it again! Syndicate is canonically too nice confirmed.

I do feel a little bad (and I told Epi as much) since I made a big stink day 3. I admittedly was upset and stressed out so it was genuine but I feel I did not contribute to the game as much as the town leaders.

[Epignosis]

I was really scared that mafia did in fact have a role cop (hence the tsp kill) and that I would be called out

The TSP kill was non-cop related. Just a lucky guess!

[DrWilgy]

I'm working, so anything I say here will be spotty for a couple of hours.

pyxxy and Wilgy were the remaining ones.

Oh whaaaaaa 3 mafia in this game?

Holy shit, that’s crazy. Like…everything points to only 3. 4 seems wildly unbalanced with these town roles holy shit

I think accidentally sniping TSP was kinda cracked.

[Epignosis]

I'm working, so anything I say here will be spotty for a couple of hours.

pyxxy and Wilgy were the remaining ones.

Oh whaaaaaa 3 mafia in this game?

Holy shit, that’s crazy. Like…everything points to only 3. 4 seems wildly unbalanced with these town roles holy shit

Look at TSP's role again and say that. Plus, falcon's role was close to a goon.

[DrWilgy]

TSP and LC's roles both give ICs

Had both come to play we would've been cooked lmao

[sprityo]

I do think the game was fairly balanced for role madness, but with everything, it can go sideways given the right storm

[Epignosis]

TSP and LC's roles both give ICs

Had both come to play we would've been cooked lmao

Absolutely this. I was afraid this game was too civilian-sided with those.

[sprityo]

Thank you again Epi for hosting! And thank you JJJ for moderating!

viewtopic.php?t=2663 New job is in signups if you guys are itching for more mafia!

[Epignosis]

I do think the game was fairly balanced for role madness, but with everything, it can go sideways given the right storm

Always the case in this scenarios. For sure.

[Cape90]

well i did use my RB on both the mafia and not on the night of the mass roleblock, so that's a W on my part i guess

[Michelle]

Well, probably not finding Wilgy soon enough.

Well played Sprityo, always almost chopped but surviving to win! That was something.

[Scotty]

I'm working, so anything I say here will be spotty for a couple of hours.

pyxxy and Wilgy were the remaining ones.

Oh whaaaaaa 3 mafia in this game?

Holy shit, that’s crazy. Like…everything points to only 3. 4 seems wildly unbalanced with these town roles holy shit

I think accidentally sniping TSP was kinda cracked.

Mafia had a built in delayed auto kill that seemingly wasn’t blockable, while we had about 6 roles that could block, which could have disrupted TSP even if he had lived to use his power. Tack on 2 different 3p’s, it was a bit wolf sided

Not that it mattered

[sprityo]

Well, probably not finding Wilgy soon enough.

Well played Sprityo, always almost chopped but surviving to win! That was something.

I really hope I did not use all my luck for the year

I graduate in May and really would like a job lol

[Michelle]

I was really scared that mafia did in fact have a role cop (hence the tsp kill) and that I would be called out

The TSP kill was non-cop related. Just a lucky guess!

None of us was right and we argued for nothing, Abigail..

[Michelle]

Well, probably not finding Wilgy soon enough.

Well played Sprityo, always almost chopped but surviving to win! That was something.

I really hope I did not use all my luck for the year

I graduate in May and really would like a job lol

This is not how things works.
You'll find a good job ^^

[Michelle]

...oh

well GG, guess my porscha guess was wrong, my secondary solve was correct, no wonder LC died in a night where he was the only one bringing attention to Wilgy

uhm yeah so i guess there's that

btw I was a roleblocker, why did my role and LC's role co-exist, idk

I am sorry for suspecting you Cape

[Michelle]

Back to sleep, it was a fun game, thanks for hosting @Epignosis

[nutella]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

And realistically if mafia had killed any of my marks (porscha, Abby, cape90) then I would not have won.

It was literally because you had died that enabled my win

so funny mafia was killing porscha on the night LC redirected it

also abbi was the kill n1 that he blocked, scotty was never saved

[Scotty]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

[Scotty]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

And realistically if mafia had killed any of my marks (porscha, Abby, cape90) then I would not have won.

It was literally because you had died that enabled my win

so funny mafia was killing porscha on the night LC redirected it

also abbi was the kill n1 that he blocked, scotty was never saved

Woah. This is wild information and wild kills!

I don’t think these scenarios happen in this capacity again if we do this game 50 more times. Twas truly a unicorn of an ending lol

[Cape90]

...oh

well GG, guess my porscha guess was wrong, my secondary solve was correct, no wonder LC died in a night where he was the only one bringing attention to Wilgy

uhm yeah so i guess there's that

btw I was a roleblocker, why did my role and LC's role co-exist, idk

I am sorry for suspecting you Cape

no worries, if you couldn't obviously tell, my mind this game hasn't been all here and I kept saying stuff without doing due diligence and censoring myself to make sure I wasn't saying stuff that was truthful . I mean I wasn't great this game, but it is what it is, it's hard to tell what would happen if we kept going who would win because I feel that we probably could have won, like if we got pyxxy before Porscha for instance, I would have stopped tunneling her.

[Epignosis]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

[Epignosis]

And the Scotty-LC BTSC dynamic was the most amazing aspect of this game.

[nutella]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

And realistically if mafia had killed any of my marks (porscha, Abby, cape90) then I would not have won.

It was literally because you had died that enabled my win

so funny mafia was killing porscha on the night LC redirected it

also abbi was the kill n1 that he blocked, scotty was never saved

Woah. This is wild information and wild kills!

I don’t think these scenarios happen in this capacity again if we do this game 50 more times. Twas truly a unicorn of an ending lol

yeah it was absolutely a roller coaster of a game all around, surprises at every turn

[nutella]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

i have to say i personally just don't really like game-ending solo-win 3ps, just kind of a vibe killer to see the game end out of nowhere like that without seeing the main factions get to play it out

[Epignosis]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

i have to say i personally just don't really like game-ending solo-win 3ps, just kind of a vibe killer to see the game end out of nowhere like that without seeing the main factions get to play it out

Folks should've voted out sprityo first and not Lime Coke.

[Scotty]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

This is just the nature of role madness sometimes and I love role madness.

That being said,
I think my biggest beef is in my role and the presentation of said role, and it’s coloring my opinion of everything else.

To say ‘you do these things every night and one of those effects will occur’ implies I actually do shit. To learn that SVS is in control of that is another thing. If I had learned we were linked when she died, and my role was essentially VT, that would feel better, rather than realizing on the backend I was doing nothing the whole time gave me a false sense of mech knowledge and it feels a bit underhanded.

anyway, I’ll get over it.

[sprityo]

The moral of the story, is never trust a 3P claim (especially in a closed setup)

(Abby was right all along)

[Scotty]

And the Scotty-LC BTSC dynamic was the most amazing aspect of this game.

We’re going on tour in select Canadian provinces. The llama to my salt lick. The Gaston to my Maurice.

Truly was a game within a game, that chat lol

[Epignosis]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

This is just the nature of role madness sometimes and I love role madness.

That being said,
I think my biggest beef is in my role and the presentation of said role, and it’s coloring my opinion of everything else.

To say ‘you do these things every night and one of those effects will occur’ implies I actually do shit. To learn that SVS is in control of that is another thing. If I had learned we were linked when she died, and my role was essentially VT, that would feel better, rather than realizing on the backend I was doing nothing the whole time gave me a false sense of mech knowledge and it feels a bit underhanded.

anyway, I’ll get over it.

I had indeed considered that!

But there was still a tracker in play, so I still had you send in a target even though it did nothing.

If Michelle had seen you targeting a murdered player, that would have made her go after you.

That was one way to balance the game further with the Cable the Sim roles being super powerful.

[Scotty]

Ok, I am looking more closely and can see how some of these roles complement each other.

Sorry all, I’m just unusually salty because of how much effort I put into the game and it felt like nothing I did mattered. I’ll get over it. Thanks for the game, Epi.

You're always tops with me, Scotty. I went over this setup fourteen times. I do get how from one side it can initially seem off.

This is just the nature of role madness sometimes and I love role madness.

That being said,
I think my biggest beef is in my role and the presentation of said role, and it’s coloring my opinion of everything else.

To say ‘you do these things every night and one of those effects will occur’ implies I actually do shit. To learn that SVS is in control of that is another thing. If I had learned we were linked when she died, and my role was essentially VT, that would feel better, rather than realizing on the backend I was doing nothing the whole time gave me a false sense of mech knowledge and it feels a bit underhanded.

anyway, I’ll get over it.

I had indeed considered that!

But there was still a tracker in play, so I still had you send in a target even though it did nothing.

If Michelle had seen you targeting a murdered player, that would have made her go after you.

That was one way to balance the game further with the Cable the Sim roles being super powerful.

I understand, just voicing my feeling as the player. Even though it fits on paper doesn’t mean it’s a particularly fun feeling

[pyxxy]

ty Epi for hosting

Scotty i would feel similarly in your sitch

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This is my shocked face

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Congrats Spirit

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This was the obvious ending sadly

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

But you deserve it

[sprityo]

But you deserve it

You’re literally the smartest person in the world, and don’t forget it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

I think the way spirit went from its okay if you kill me on the previous day to

Oh no keep me alive no don't kill me and fighting tooth and nail to survive was a pretty obvious sign they were going to win but I wasn't able to really articulate why we always needed to kill them there in all worlds

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So,,,who was mafia?

at least I get to make this post now

Wait... I'm goated

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I was really scared that mafia did in fact have a role cop (hence the tsp kill) and that I would be called out

The TSP kill was non-cop related. Just a lucky guess!

None of us was right and we argued for nothing, Abigail..

Yeah we did that a lot lol sorry

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

And realistically if mafia had killed any of my marks (porscha, Abby, cape90) then I would not have won.

It was literally because you had died that enabled my win

so funny mafia was killing porscha on the night LC redirected it

also abbi was the kill n1 that he blocked, scotty was never saved

Oh em gee yay me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The moral of the story, is never trust a 3P claim (especially in a closed setup)

(Abby was right all along)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

But you deserve it

You’re literally the smartest person in the world, and don’t forget it

Never heard that before



Ily

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

I think the way spirit went from its okay if you kill me on the previous day to

Oh no keep me alive no don't kill me and fighting tooth and nail to survive was a pretty obvious sign they were going to win but I wasn't able to really articulate why we always needed to kill them there in all worlds

So like if I can't convince people to follow me or why I'm seeing something that's on me really

I think that's my biggest point of failure in mafia really

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyways I feel like game ending 3Ps are common place in rule madness and I can't be mad about it

The game was fun I really liked my role and flavor from my favorite anime and I enjoyed it so thanks for hosting

[Epignosis]

Huh. Well then.

Gg sprit! I’m working on processing this, but this one feels particularly rough based on the effort and calculated risk. I really didn’t think there was any way any role would be able to win with this many people remaining.

So

huh

I think the way spirit went from its okay if you kill me on the previous day to

Oh no keep me alive no don't kill me and fighting tooth and nail to survive was a pretty obvious sign they were going to win but I wasn't able to really articulate why we always needed to kill them there in all worlds

So like if I can't convince people to follow me or why I'm seeing something that's on me really

I think that's my biggest point of failure in mafia really

I have a suggestion regarding that if you're open to it:

I think you are an astute player, and I agree with the shortcoming you mentioned above.

Instead of posting fourteen posts in a row rapid fire, condense them into a few. Use that as an opportunity for yourself to organize your ideas. Give yourself a chance to reflect over what you're posting before you fire it off, and you can also see if it makes sense with other things you are writing (and compare it to what others are saying).

[Epignosis]

I think you run into the trap of "Oh, here comes the PA wave. Let me push through it."