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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
I voted for Foxcatcher, because I haven't seen any of these movies, and catching foxes sounds cool, because foxes are cool.
Sorry DF, the baddies' trick worked like a charm on this sucker.
Sorry DF, the baddies' trick worked like a charm on this sucker.
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
What is it that happened days 5-6?Made wrote:._. ripMongoose wrote:And now a word from Fritz Lang:
Reading back it is obvious to me now that few of the civilian lynches so far have been accidents. There is a malicious group of individuals functioning behind the scenes controlling and manipulating the votes, and when you examine the pattern there is little to no doubt as to who they are. Pay particular attention to what happened on days 5 and 6 and the night between and you shall discover the truth.
Alright so (based on votes anyways) Fritz thinks it SVS and Roxy. Thoughts?
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Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
We don't know. He was NK'd.Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Then I can only assume I was correct.Ricochet wrote:We don't know. He was NK'd.Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
You could assume you're incorrect.Vompatti wrote:Then I can only assume I was correct.Ricochet wrote:We don't know. He was NK'd.Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
But I won't because I have great trust in my knowledge and intuition.Dom wrote:You could assume you're incorrect.Vompatti wrote:Then I can only assume I was correct.Ricochet wrote:We don't know. He was NK'd.Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Vompatti wrote:But I won't because I have great trust in my knowledge and intuition.Dom wrote:You could assume you're incorrect.Vompatti wrote:Then I can only assume I was correct.Ricochet wrote:We don't know. He was NK'd.Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
a-freakin-menDom wrote:I would like to vote Selma, but the Academy.
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.Vompatti wrote:If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Canucklehead wrote:Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.Vompatti wrote:If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.Canucklehead wrote:Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.Vompatti wrote:If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
And guess what the outside, the part that Ms. Canuckbleberry would touch is made of???Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.Canucklehead wrote:Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.Vompatti wrote:If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
Then let me take you back to 1943 where that won't be problem at all.Dom wrote:And guess what the outside, the part that Ms. Canuckbleberry would touch is made of???Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.Canucklehead wrote:Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.Vompatti wrote:If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?
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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
A copper! And his name is Fallon!
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
I have a cheap masonic/templar ring that makes my finger green if I wear it.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Night 8: Ten Little Indians.
Today's lesson is on props. Dubious props.
McGuffins are not colloquial names for farts.
McGuffin (aka: MacGuffin or maguffin) is a term for a PlotEnablingDevice, i.e., a device or plot element in a movie that is deliberately placed to catch the viewer's attention and/or drive the logic of the plot, but which actually serves no further purpose - it won't pop up again later, it won't explain the ending, it won't actually do anything except possibly distract you while you try to figure out its significance. More specifically, it is usually a mysterious package or superweapon or something that everyone in the story is chasing.
Possibly coined by AlfredHitchcock (see below). The perfect example is the "government secrets" that motivate the action in NorthByNorthwest (1959). Another typical McGuffin is the Maltese Falcon. It gets the characters together, pits them against each other, but turns out to be worthless.
"Hitchcock was a neat chum," said Bass.
"Oh look at this pistol," said Canucklehead.
"Pistols are expensive (but still plentiful) in Finland," noted Vompatti.
"Are there blanks in those?" asked Ricochet.
"Surely, this is the props room," said Roxy.
"Go on, aim it at me, and shoot," dared S~V~S.
"This makes me nervous," said Vompatti.
"You're always a nervous horse,' said LongCon.
Canucklehead aimed and shot. S~V~S fell to the ground, bleeding.
"Someone's switched the prop blanks out for live rounds!" yelled A Person 2.0, in a rare display of outburst.
"That's no McGuffin," said Dom.
S~V~S has been murdered.
It is now Day 9. You have 48 hours to see who switched out the prop gun.
Today's lesson is on props. Dubious props.
McGuffins are not colloquial names for farts.
McGuffin (aka: MacGuffin or maguffin) is a term for a PlotEnablingDevice, i.e., a device or plot element in a movie that is deliberately placed to catch the viewer's attention and/or drive the logic of the plot, but which actually serves no further purpose - it won't pop up again later, it won't explain the ending, it won't actually do anything except possibly distract you while you try to figure out its significance. More specifically, it is usually a mysterious package or superweapon or something that everyone in the story is chasing.
Possibly coined by AlfredHitchcock (see below). The perfect example is the "government secrets" that motivate the action in NorthByNorthwest (1959). Another typical McGuffin is the Maltese Falcon. It gets the characters together, pits them against each other, but turns out to be worthless.
"Hitchcock was a neat chum," said Bass.
"Oh look at this pistol," said Canucklehead.
"Pistols are expensive (but still plentiful) in Finland," noted Vompatti.
"Are there blanks in those?" asked Ricochet.
"Surely, this is the props room," said Roxy.
"Go on, aim it at me, and shoot," dared S~V~S.
"This makes me nervous," said Vompatti.
"You're always a nervous horse,' said LongCon.
Canucklehead aimed and shot. S~V~S fell to the ground, bleeding.
"Someone's switched the prop blanks out for live rounds!" yelled A Person 2.0, in a rare display of outburst.
"That's no McGuffin," said Dom.
S~V~S has been murdered.
It is now Day 9. You have 48 hours to see who switched out the prop gun.
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Re: [POLLS]: Film Director
Best director (for 2015 Academy Awards)
Alejandro González Iñárritu, "Birdman"
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timmer (4), zeek (8), Bass_the_Clever (10) 30%
Richard Linklater, "Boyhood"
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Mongoose (1), Ricochet (5), thellama73 (9) 30%
Bennett Miller, "Foxcatcher"
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Long Con (7) 10%
Wes Anderson, "The Grand Budapest Hotel"
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MovingPictures07 (2), Dom (6) 20%
Morten Tydlum, "The Imitation Game"
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S~V~S (3) 10%
Total votes : 10
Alejandro González Iñárritu, "Birdman"
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timmer (4), zeek (8), Bass_the_Clever (10) 30%
Richard Linklater, "Boyhood"
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Mongoose (1), Ricochet (5), thellama73 (9) 30%
Bennett Miller, "Foxcatcher"
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Long Con (7) 10%
Wes Anderson, "The Grand Budapest Hotel"
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MovingPictures07 (2), Dom (6) 20%
Morten Tydlum, "The Imitation Game"
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S~V~S (3) 10%
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
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"Someone's switched the prop blanks out for live rounds!" yelled A Person 2.0, in a rare display of outburst.
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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Well that wasn't predictable
Good Luck civvies~!
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Blanks are still enough to cause serious harm or death at close range, silly canucklehead
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?
I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.
I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
I not sure now. I was thinking hacks. I still think she is bad I mean she asked for a replacement and I don't think civvie roxy would do that I think she would have just rode it out.I think she was looking out for her team because she knew she wouldn't be able to be around.Dom wrote:Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?
I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
I'm thinking SVS might be right about Canuck.
I'd need some more convincing about Rox-- I don't see her killing SVS, but that's a WIFOM trap, plus she's been inactive lately.
I'd need some more convincing about Rox-- I don't see her killing SVS, but that's a WIFOM trap, plus she's been inactive lately.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Maybe, maybe not. MAybe Dom and Roxy are baddies together. RIP S~V~S.
I think I'll randomize my vote today.
I think I'll randomize my vote today.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Oscars.Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Do I win a rezz?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
thellama73 wrote:Oscars.Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Do I win a rezz?
Cheater. No rezz for you.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?Mongoose wrote:thellama73 wrote:Oscars.Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Do I win a rezz?
Cheater. No rezz for you.
I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Rezz please
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Why LC?Canucklehead wrote:I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Technically, in Jeopardy you need to know the correct questionthellama73 wrote:Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?Mongoose wrote:thellama73 wrote:Oscars.Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Do I win a rezz?
Cheater. No rezz for you.
I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Why not?Dom wrote:Why LC?Canucklehead wrote:I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
I'm not bad, either, but the problem is I really don't know who is. I've been so wrong about everyone I suspected, that maybe it's time to start suspecting the people I've trusted. Maybe you? Mate Dom, who has done little but ask deflecting questions all game? Maybe the players who were replaced because their baddie teammates were desperate to drop the dead weight of no-shows? I dunno. I'm lost.Long Con wrote:Because I'm not bad, and several of you are.
I know my head is on the chopping block today, but I'm a civ and ice played like a civ (i.e. blindly and without success) the entire game.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Not really though, because they never accept "what is written on the board under 'American History $100'" or similar as correct.Canucklehead wrote:Technically, in Jeopardy you need to know the correct questionthellama73 wrote:Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?Mongoose wrote:thellama73 wrote:Oscars.Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Do I win a rezz?
Cheater. No rezz for you.
I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Baddies have been laying very low.
Ok, so Sabie had no real on-topic posts, and then was replaced by A Person, who has had basically one on-topic post, plus two more discussing how he doesn't know how the Uwe Boll lock works. His one post is "I had wanted to vote MM but the thread was locked I've felt he was fishy all game."
So that's a likely place to put my vote.
Lizzy had a handful of on-topics, casting some suspicion at Llama, and voting Metalmarsh with no real reasons stated. Made has been much more active, with some real analytical posts on DFaraday.
Made, why did you look at the votes on Days 5 and 6, and call out S~V~S and Roxy, but not Ricochet or Canuck?
Ok, so Sabie had no real on-topic posts, and then was replaced by A Person, who has had basically one on-topic post, plus two more discussing how he doesn't know how the Uwe Boll lock works. His one post is "I had wanted to vote MM but the thread was locked I've felt he was fishy all game."
So that's a likely place to put my vote.
Lizzy had a handful of on-topics, casting some suspicion at Llama, and voting Metalmarsh with no real reasons stated. Made has been much more active, with some real analytical posts on DFaraday.
Made, why did you look at the votes on Days 5 and 6, and call out S~V~S and Roxy, but not Ricochet or Canuck?
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Re: [Night 8]: Film Directors.
R.I.P. SVS.
Catching up a bit:
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Not sure how I feel yet about a dormant baddie Roxy. The dormant baddie issue itself is thorny, because we've just had three players being replaced, and I don't want to rush and simply contrast Roxy's absence as more intentional, especially given her RL issues. I stopped having a read on her ever since the Vomps debacle made her look better (D4, I think) and then she caught up with a healthy input, but nothing more. I rather think the actives have been active and scheming all along and still are. The only potential dormant baddie I started to suspect was Spacedaisy, but she got then replaced with Made, who is now back to his active self. Vomps seems to have gone back to his usual self too and AP voted DF the other day without reasoning, which is something I can't even correlate, since we lynched him the first time before he could vote for anyone (his D1 self vote notwithstanding, that is).
BTW, Bass, don't know if you noticed my question earlier, but
So overall I think we now have two active (i.e. unresolved) WIFOMs based on NKs: SVS's and Llama's. The first one is easy: either Canuck is a Hack and together with her remaining teammate made an obvious kill, either the Hacks have took advantage of creating a WIFOM.
Regarding the second, I'd like to quote back my view of how Llama's NK can be interpreted, now updated after DF's flip:
All in all, I see that the baddies are very keen to create WIFOMs, these two being the second and third after FZ's NK. They (the baddies) might want us now to see it as a diversion instead of an obvious kill, given that we were completely wrong the first time. But maybe it would still be best stick to the simple explanation.
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LC, by the way, is looking bad to me. Back-seat-taking for days now, yet sturdy to lynch DF throughout the same period. His comments also add up, because some of them can be really red in a baddie light. For instance, his latest
Plus throwing in Dom* into the pool suspects just now, without reasoning. Plus other comments, all the way back to when Llama called him on his potential "geez wizz, TH, what a fine case you made, totally subscribe" attitude towards lynching Made (...after which the Llama kill happened).
*not that I don't trust Dom, either, right now
That's about it, right now. All fragments free to snip.
Catching up a bit:
Can you elaborate on how you read Lang's note, please?Made wrote:._. ripMongoose wrote:And now a word from Fritz Lang:
Reading back it is obvious to me now that few of the civilian lynches so far have been accidents. There is a malicious group of individuals functioning behind the scenes controlling and manipulating the votes, and when you examine the pattern there is little to no doubt as to who they are. Pay particular attention to what happened on days 5 and 6 and the night between and you shall discover the truth.
Alright so (based on votes anyways) Fritz thinks it SVS and Roxy. Thoughts?
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Not sure how I feel yet about a dormant baddie Roxy. The dormant baddie issue itself is thorny, because we've just had three players being replaced, and I don't want to rush and simply contrast Roxy's absence as more intentional, especially given her RL issues. I stopped having a read on her ever since the Vomps debacle made her look better (D4, I think) and then she caught up with a healthy input, but nothing more. I rather think the actives have been active and scheming all along and still are. The only potential dormant baddie I started to suspect was Spacedaisy, but she got then replaced with Made, who is now back to his active self. Vomps seems to have gone back to his usual self too and AP voted DF the other day without reasoning, which is something I can't even correlate, since we lynched him the first time before he could vote for anyone (his D1 self vote notwithstanding, that is).
As far as I remember, her first ask for a replacement was because she wanted time off altogether after a bad GoC feud or something. Her second ask came amidst RL issues. While I am aware those RL issues affected you as well, I'm not quite convinced she would do it on purpose.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I not sure now. I was thinking hacks. I still think she is bad I mean she asked for a replacement and I don't think civvie roxy would do that I think she would have just rode it out.I think she was looking out for her team because she knew she wouldn't be able to be around.Dom wrote:Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?
I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.
BTW, Bass, don't know if you noticed my question earlier, but
---Ricochet wrote:Bass, you are very consistent in naming your suspects, but not so much in reasoning for it. MM aside, I read back your posts and noticed just one instance of saying something about why you think Roxy and I are, on our own, suspicious. In my case, it's the ever-recurrent underestimating of my playing abilities in this game ("ooh he can't possibly have adapted this way / played this good without btsc"). So, would you please elaborate?Bass_the_Clever wrote:MeatalMarsh I would also be with Roxy and Rico in that order.Dom wrote:MetalMarsh, and you?Bass_the_Clever wrote:Dom who are you thinking about voting?
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So overall I think we now have two active (i.e. unresolved) WIFOMs based on NKs: SVS's and Llama's. The first one is easy: either Canuck is a Hack and together with her remaining teammate made an obvious kill, either the Hacks have took advantage of creating a WIFOM.
Regarding the second, I'd like to quote back my view of how Llama's NK can be interpreted, now updated after DF's flip:
So either LC framed DF and actually did make with his team an obvious Kill, or the Bros are framing him, just like they framed DF.Ricochet wrote:
L0 - LC is a Bro and killed (with his team, I mean) Llama to silence him
L1 - LC is not a Bro (i.e. Hack or civ), but the Bros seized the moment and killed Llama to make it look like LC is involved
L2 - LC was not involved in any way with Llama's kill, but DF is trying to push for it
L3 - LC is trying to frame DF as pushing it
and the Inception-like Level 4 of subtleness would be that the baddies are a completely different faction and they're trying to frame the both of them in some way for this.
All in all, I see that the baddies are very keen to create WIFOMs, these two being the second and third after FZ's NK. They (the baddies) might want us now to see it as a diversion instead of an obvious kill, given that we were completely wrong the first time. But maybe it would still be best stick to the simple explanation.
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LC, by the way, is looking bad to me. Back-seat-taking for days now, yet sturdy to lynch DF throughout the same period. His comments also add up, because some of them can be really red in a baddie light. For instance, his latest
He shouted that DF is framing him and supported his lynch for two consecutive days, yet now he sees him as a "sucker" who was lynched because of "baddies' trick". What?Long Con wrote:Sorry DF, the baddies' trick worked like a charm on this sucker.
Plus throwing in Dom* into the pool suspects just now, without reasoning. Plus other comments, all the way back to when Llama called him on his potential "geez wizz, TH, what a fine case you made, totally subscribe" attitude towards lynching Made (...after which the Llama kill happened).
*not that I don't trust Dom, either, right now
That's about it, right now. All fragments free to snip.
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Re: [Day 9]: Film Directors.
Dunno why my post had Night 8 in the title, probably from starting it by quoting Made's take on Lang's post.
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Re: [Day 4]: Film Directors.
Called it!Turnip Head wrote:Also, Birdman is going to win the Oscar. The Academy loves movies about the industry.