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Poll ended at Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:00 pm

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Re: MacGyver Mafia: The Cheesiest :D

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Kate wrote:I believe I will be voting for the socked one.
I abatement if Roxy was civvie, I would vote Sockface, harelipped I will. Although it is possible he is being reword.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
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MovingPictures07 wrote:I do that also as civvie. You're basing this, and you even admitted, off of the only game you've seen from me: my mafia game. If asking questions makes me bad, then I don't get it.

I don't know the answers to any of the questions I'm asking; that's why I'm asking them. I'm trying to gauge how everyone constantly feels about everyone else because that's how you find links.

I can't speak for any of the four players you listed. I am not convinced any of those is baddie currently, though I certainly have my :eye: on all of them, Vompatti probably the most if you asked me right now.
Why me? :shrug:
What do you think of the person making the accusation?
MP? I think it's a bit odd that he agreed without any argument with Dex's random list of names above and that he wouldn't say why he has his eye on me particularly. Besides that and the randomization thing at the beginning of the game I don't find him particularly suspicious, although I can't say I trust him either.
A little bus throwing possibly? He loves to do that in games where you win with your team, dead or alive.

I had to cut a post out, too many to allow me to repost.
Assuming he's bad I don't think that would be a good strategy this early in the game, especially since it seems he'll probably be lynched soon.
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Re: MacGyver Mafia: The Cheesiest :D

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thellama73 wrote:
Kate wrote:I believe I will be voting for the socked one.
I abatement if Roxy was civvie, I would vote Sockface, harelipped I will. Although it is possible he is being reword.
Try again.
Andrew wrote: Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote: Why me? :shrug:
What do you think of the person making the accusation?
MP? I think it's a bit odd that he agreed without any argument with Dex's random list of names above and that he wouldn't say why he has his eye on me particularly. Besides that and the randomization thing at the beginning of the game I don't find him particularly suspicious, although I can't say I trust him either.
A little bus throwing possibly? He loves to do that in games where you win with your team, dead or alive.

I had to cut a post out, too many to allow me to repost.
Assuming he's bad I don't think that would be a good strategy this early in the game, especially since it seems he'll probably be lynched soon.
Fair point, I don't put much past him. He is balls to the wall as a baddie, as he puts it.

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Andrew wrote: Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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Kate wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Kate wrote:I believe I will be voting for the socked one.
I abatement if Roxy was civvie, I would vote Sockface, harelipped I will. Although it is possible he is being reword.
Try again.
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Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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thellama73 wrote:I March Hare pitapat post equivalence more night osteopathist
:shrug:
Andrew wrote: Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
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Kate wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I March Hare pitapat post equivalence more night osteopathist
:shrug:
Hahaha! That roarer a good one!
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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This is Shinny you, baddie team. *Votes MP*
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Is the insanitier a baddie power? I couldn't see.
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If it is I will be my bottom dollor llama is a baddie trying to gain civ cred.
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He-Man wrote:If it is I will be my bottom dollor llama is a baddie trying to gain civ cred.
You HannaK me unavoidable sugarplum dollar, He-Man.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: MacGyver Mafia: The Cheesiest :D

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Vompatti wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dex wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:And why is it you think I'm mafia again?
I'll just add to the reasoning I've already posted that it appears to me that one of the things you do as mafioso is ask questions to which you already know the answers.

I also suspect that one of He-Man, Kate, Russtifinko, or Vompatti is your teammate.
I do that also as civvie. You're basing this, and you even admitted, off of the only game you've seen from me: my mafia game. If asking questions makes me bad, then I don't get it.

I don't know the answers to any of the questions I'm asking; that's why I'm asking them. I'm trying to gauge how everyone constantly feels about everyone else because that's how you find links.

I can't speak for any of the four players you listed. I am not convinced any of those is baddie currently, though I certainly have my :eye: on all of them, Vompatti probably the most if you asked me right now.
Why me? :shrug:
Because you came in here and voted for either me or boo and you didn't seem to have a good reason for either. Care to elaborate at all?

Also, I did not agree with Dex's list at all. I said I have my eye on all of them. Very different story.




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MovingPictures07 wrote:And considering INH/LT 2.0 is now off the table for this lynch, what are people thinking? Based on thread behavior alone, llama or Snow Dog seem most logical, but I'm not 100% sold on either of them just yet. That being said, I doubt I could justify a vote for anyone other than those two, but we'll see what the day brings, and I'll sleep on it.
I don't understand that I or Llama are logical choices. I am not mafia, I can't speak for LLama. But even presuming that we are and that Roxy is not, that still leaves two mafia out there. Any suspects for those two....anyone?
I'm willing to believe you, Snowie, so I doubt I'll be voting for you today. Llama, I don't know, his behavior this game seems to be a stark contrast to MOTU, despite his still apparent like of logic and the same type of llama train of thought, he has been a bit more silly, less contributory to actual discussion, and very bandwagony.

Both of your voting records are not so great, but I would bet llama being bad before you.

And I've been saying over and over again who I think might be suspect. Llama, you, Dex, AATB, and INH/LT 2.0. There could be four baddies right there, but I don't know.




Kate wrote:I believe I will be voting for the socked one.
Why exactly? And who says you're even civvie this game? I was thinking you were early on, but I've been wondering about you lately. Trying to divert attention away from llama, INH, or Snow Dog?

Has anyone actually given any sort of evidence as to why I might be bad this game? Oh, wait, it's because there isn't any because I'm not bad.
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Care to explain your vote for me, llama? Though not like it'll matter because you're insanified.


He-Man wrote:Is the insanitier a baddie power? I couldn't see.
I don't see any insanifier listed but there are enough secrets and the baddies apparently have a "list" of powers.
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Kate wrote:I must say the timing of your vote makes both you and he look quite suspect.
I meant to respond to this too, too many windows open.

I am not Vompatti's teammate and it's pretty evident to me that baddies bandwagoned onto both me and Rox yesterday. You don't think so?
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Re: MacGyver Mafia: The Cheesiest :D

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I think I'm seeing an MP who will throw his teammates under the bus. This reminds me of AHS.

I am also seeing an MP who thought I was civ, but then has an eye on me because Dex does (someone you have on your list of baddies...). Just like you did in MOTU.

I also notice, when you are bad, you do a lot of justifying. I do this (x, y, and z) because that's what civvies do. As in, look at me I'm so civvie!
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, this is great, thanks everyone. Way to give me a chance to defend myself.

I say one thing about how I think Rox might be worth a vote, I didn't even vote her, and the thread descends to hell. It seems evident to me NOW that Rox is probably civvie, that she and I are bickering in a civ-on-civ manner, and that INH is probably bad.

This is bullshit.
Also, here is some anger from day one. This doesn't read frustrated civvie to me. It reads baddie caught.
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Kate wrote:I think I'm seeing an MP who will throw his teammates under the bus. This reminds me of AHS.

I am also seeing an MP who thought I was civ, but then has an eye on me because Dex does (someone you have on your list of baddies...). Just like you did in MOTU.

I also notice, when you are bad, you do a lot of justifying. I do this (x, y, and z) because that's what civvies do. As in, look at me I'm so civvie!
Okay, I appreciate the actual reasoning, so thank you. Let me address these.

I assume Vompatti is the supposed teammate you're referring to? I'm sorry, but you're wrong there. I don't have BTSC here so my guess as to who is bad and who isn't is as good as any other civvie. Besides, if he was my teammate, I'd have thrown him under the bus before boo said his D2 vote was weird, you know that. Look at MOTU, I was one of the very first people (if not the first) to mention BWT on Day 1.

I do still think you could be civvie, you're not in my top 4 or 5 likely baddies, correct? I just find it weird you're heading this direction all of a sudden when it's clear to me (because I know I'm good and it's evident Rox was as well, although I realize all you have is my word and my in thread actions), that the baddies avoided most of the votes in yesterday's lynch. I do think Dex is more apt to be a baddie than you, currently, but you're a good baddie; I've been hoodwinked by you before, so I've been wondering, that's all. I think it's safe to say we should consider every option, especially since the past two lynches weren't ideal.

I would also say I do that in my civvie game, but there's nothing else I can defend with there, other than I am a civvie here and my actions are genuine. I don't know, I think it again comes down to the fact that I've played these games lately as a devious baddie so people just aren't willing to take my words without reading baddie intentions behind them.

What do you think of INH/LT 2.0, Snow Dog, llama, Dex, AATB, etc.? I would like to catch a baddie today and I do value your (and others') input, for whatever it is worth.

Oh, and speaking of AATB, I do know we should take the chemistry book with a grain of salt, but I do find it weird it emphasized AATB particularly. I'm curious to see what he has to bring to the table once he gets caught up though and I do not think I would be voting him today.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dex wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:And why is it you think I'm mafia again?
I'll just add to the reasoning I've already posted that it appears to me that one of the things you do as mafioso is ask questions to which you already know the answers.

I also suspect that one of He-Man, Kate, Russtifinko, or Vompatti is your teammate.
I do that also as civvie. You're basing this, and you even admitted, off of the only game you've seen from me: my mafia game. If asking questions makes me bad, then I don't get it.

I don't know the answers to any of the questions I'm asking; that's why I'm asking them. I'm trying to gauge how everyone constantly feels about everyone else because that's how you find links.

I can't speak for any of the four players you listed. I am not convinced any of those is baddie currently, though I certainly have my :eye: on all of them, Vompatti probably the most if you asked me right now.
Why me? :shrug:
Because you came in here and voted for either me or boo and you didn't seem to have a good reason for either. Care to elaborate at all?

Also, I did not agree with Dex's list at all. I said I have my eye on all of them. Very different story.
What if I told you I "randomized" between the two of you? ;D
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Kate wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, this is great, thanks everyone. Way to give me a chance to defend myself.

I say one thing about how I think Rox might be worth a vote, I didn't even vote her, and the thread descends to hell. It seems evident to me NOW that Rox is probably civvie, that she and I are bickering in a civ-on-civ manner, and that INH is probably bad.

This is bullshit.
Also, here is some anger from day one. This doesn't read frustrated civvie to me. It reads baddie caught.
Read it however you want, but it is frustrated civvie.

Actually, just because it was the most recent game I was civvie and I nearly got lynched Day 1 in that game as well and I have referenced it, I pulled a few quotes from D1 Futurama. If anyone recalls, I also was looked at as being suspicious and thereafter being on MR F/YLP's team because he was the only one who believed me.
MovingPictures07 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:42 pm wrote:
S~V~S » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:55 pm wrote:Hmmm, all the discussion DOES seem to be about fandomizing now, doesn't it?

And actually, on the rare occasion I do go random, it is usually between a pool of players, like everyone who voted for a certain person or option, or everyone who agreed to a particular plan or whatever.

I am not sure what the problem would be with that, it is better than straight random (I can't wait for MP to join this discussion :politegiggle: )
I've given up trying to convince anyone that randomizing is completely uncivvie; however, I don't find it any less suspicious.

Way too many wasted arguments and unnecessary lynchings of me (particularly while I was civvie) under my belt to argue it incredibly hard anymore.

Looks like the main heat is from Rey and Golden, with a bit from Kate and Rox, but I didn't gather anything notable in any of their posting behavior yet, not sure if anyone else has?

Also, on the DD note, it's very like DD to speculate (like someone said, pulling an LC, can't remember who that was), so I didn't find that particularly uncharacteristic or telling.
Here is my second post in that game after a first post of pretty much just yay game and all that stuff.

MovingPictures07 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:32 pm wrote:
YourLittlePony » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:25 pm wrote:I always think Golden is bad. But he usually isn't.

And yeah, Rey was a big meanie head in Survivor.

Also, some of you know this, but my work just picked up crazy like so I won't be here as much as usual. I know, I know, I can imagine all of you crying over this news, but what can you do?

MP, seems like you don't want to talk about it, but what's wrong with randoming day 1?
I can't stand randomizing; all it does is breed ways for vote manipulation by baddies, I've always thought that. Even having 0.001% confidence or logic in voting for someone makes more sense to me than randomizing because all a civvie is doing by randomizing is saying "I am going to 'randomly' pick from this list of names and hope for the best", which is a terrible attitude towards trying to catch a baddie. Chances are, any semblance of any suspicion whatsoever is a better bet than randomizing -- Not only that, but randomizing is the easy way out. It completely absolves the individual (particularly on Day 1) for taking any responsibility in contributing to discussion or having independent thoughts of their own. Rather, they can cop out and say they are going to randomize, and then thereafter shrug off responsibility for their vote saying, Well, all I did was randomize, there was no legitimate opinion of mine there whatsoever. It completely absolves responsibility, and consequently makes a fantastic cover for baddies just voting for anyone other than their team and not having it traced, and also for civvies and players in general not participating to the full extent that they probably should. It's a huge mafia pet peeve of mine.

Hopefully that made sense; perhaps it was a bit convoluted or redundant but I have argued against randomizing many, many times in the past. I realize there are also scenarios where people may genuinely have absolutely no idea who to vote for and haven't had time to catch up, and I understand that -- but I still despise randomizing for the reasons stated previously -- and you'll never catch me randomizing in a game.
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MovingPictures07 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:00 am wrote:I have to vote now as I have a busy day at work and then night class.

I voted FourofShades, only because I don't feel confident around the main players at the moment, despite that I'm not agreeing they look overly civvie -- it's hard to say what any of them are at this point. I don't remember anything from FoS other than one post which hardly had anything to say.
Then I had to vote early and be the first one to vote. I took a TON of heat for this.


MovingPictures07 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:39 pm wrote:This is interesting, actually. I appreciate those who have pointed out that the arguments against me are a bunch of fabricated BS, because that's what they are -- either that or some are just not understanding my train of thought. Personally it might be a mix of both, but I find it funny that I am getting all of the attention, and then YLP is brought up as suspicious for seeing my POV. Since when is that defending anyone?

Timmer » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:32 am wrote:
MovingPictures07 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:00 am wrote:I have to vote now as I have a busy day at work and then night class.

I voted FourofShades, only because I don't feel confident around the main players at the moment, despite that I'm not agreeing they look overly civvie -- it's hard to say what any of them are at this point. I don't remember anything from FoS other than one post which hardly had anything to say.
I'll try to better explain why I'm pinged by MP before I run off to work.

Here is his post where he voted. So he doesn't feel confident about the main players, that part is fine, I wasn't feeling any pings there, either. But his reason for voting FoS is that he doesn't remember anything from him except one post which had little to say. The problem here is that there are quite a few people who haven't posted much at all in this game, and who have said little of substance, no different than FoS.

So my assumption then, is that MP7 just threw his vote on a quiet player, when there were a lot of quiet players. That's exactly the same as a randomized vote. Lots of people in lots of games have said "I just randomized from among the quiet players" and that's fine. But MP7 seems determined to not call it that.

So my question for MP is, then, if you specifically chose FoS for his one non-helpful post, why him when there were other players who also hadn't contributed to the game at all at that time? If you didn't simply choose him over the others (which would be a form of randomizing) what was your reason? What put this one player ahead of the other non-helpful, quiet ones?
Now I came back to find that I had survived, thankfully, but that I did receive votes. Because day was over and I didn't die AND because my vote in that game honestly made less sense than my votes in this one, I was less frustrated than here.

Lest we forget people were arguing in that game as well that I effectively randomized (though I didn't even call it that at the time I voted, but when I came back to explain it, I did).


I put FourofShades ahead because he clearly posted once. There were others that had not checked in, so I wanted to at least give them a chance. However, FoS obviously had the chance to check the thread, and with the lack of a better option, that's where I decided to vote. How is that random, anyone?
MovingPictures07 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:04 pm wrote:Really? Why the heck did I get votes?

FourofShades » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:50 am wrote:I'm going to have to side with Golden on this one. Who really is going to lie about their stance on randomizing? It doesn't even really matter, since randomizing is only a day one issue. If anything, bringing it up in that manner looks more to me like a witch hunt. Trying to get someone lynched on day one for a silly reason, only to go back and say "well it was only day one, it was just a silly reason, I didn't expect people to jump on it." I don't like that at all, not one bit.

Also, :( MovingPictures voted for me.
Sorry, if you are indeed good. I didn't have much better to go off on and I had to vote this morning.
DFaraday » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:57 pm wrote:
MovingPictures07 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:00 am wrote:I have to vote now as I have a busy day at work and then night class.

I voted FourofShades, only because I don't feel confident around the main players at the moment, despite that I'm not agreeing they look overly civvie -- it's hard to say what any of them are at this point. I don't remember anything from FoS other than one post which hardly had anything to say.
???

You were just saying how randomising is bad because it allows a player to avoid engaging discussion of actual suspects and "randomly" pick someone, and then you suddenly vote Aces with no reason beyond "he hasn't said much"? That seems a bit contradictory, imo.

As for the main four, I think Rey and Golden both come off as civ, but if anything, I think Golden seemed a bit overly defensive. I read Rey's original post about Golden's teammates as being a joke. :shrug:

Roxy strikes me as civ, and I'll have to go back and look over Kate's posts again before I decide on her.

As for randomising, I'm not a huge fan of it, but I don't mind doing it on Day 1 if there's not much to go on.

Linki: And I kind of doubt JC's theory atm.
I didn't randomize, DF. I said I didn't find any of the main attention getters suspicious one way or the other, did I not? Who else was I supposed to vote for?
MovingPictures07 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:41 pm wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:In all honesty I'm not sure I suspect MP. He seems to make himself a target very early often, even if civ.
This. It especially happens when I'm civ for some really strange reason. I must admit to being a weird individual, so my reasons for voting are often misunderstood by many, and it seems to happen even more when I'm civ. However, I never understood that, and even right now I still don't. It's easy to see there's nothing of substance here -- and it's ironic -- because I previously did not suspect any of the "main" attention getters, but I did come home surprised to see NONE of them had hardly any votes. Now I'm beginning to smell something potentially fishy.

Another point -- why the sodding hell did people nearly send me to my grave when I clearly said I wouldn't be back to defend myself?
Then here's these posts.

I mean, I don't know what else to say other than what I have and that I'm civvie here, so you're reading my intentions incorrectly.

MovingPictures07 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:04 pm wrote:
Golden » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:49 pm wrote:INH - I didn't focus on the randomising thing at all.

Rey focussed on it, and I defended myself about that.
YLP focussed on it, and I defended myself about that.

I never made any inherent choice to focus on it, in fact I think I made it quite clear that I don't think there is any reason for discussion about randomising to be useful in figuring out who is bad since there is no reason for anyone (MP included) to lie about it.

linki @ MP - 'how is that random' - because it doesn't indiciate that your vote was borne out of any kind of suspicion. It just indicates a logical thought process behind making the random choice that you did. Having logic for how you randomly select someone to vote for doesn't make it not random.

Essentially what it boils down to is this - you did something that you may not define as randomising but many other people do. I do. The lesson you should take from this is - don't be so black and white about your stance on randomising. It doesn't do any good. Do you really think anything can be achieved in this game, or any other, by arguing over how to define 'randomising' and whether or not you just did it or not?

linki again - as for why people nearly send you to your grave while you aren't there to defend yourself... welcome to my world! The world of the day one bandwagon when you aren't looking.
I'm not the one who brought up randomizing -- I wanted to avoid it for very specific reasons. I stand by my thought process as to MY logic, and this fiasco has happened to me way too many times, hence why I didn't bring it up and didn't plan to. Someone asked me my thought process so I presented it to them.

Why people find me suspicious because of how I define randomizing and then how I clearly voted without randomly picking a name is absolutely BLOWING my mind. You could even say I was PINGED by the fact that FoS came in here and then disappeared, couldn't you? It may be 0.00000001% ping, but it was still a freaking ping, and that's why I voted. Why that makes me bad, please someone explain that to me.

And I've already been in that world, many times my friend. I've played many games and it seems I get lynched at least 75% of them.





Kate » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:52 pm wrote:
My only other suspish is that Mr. F and, possibly, MP are on the other team, but all I have to say about that I said recently upthread.


Why?

Way to bandwagon.

What a bunch of BS.





Roxy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:52 pm wrote:Voting a quiet player for no other reason then they have not said much = random imo. I look at it the same way. Really how much thought does it take to vote a low poster who has not said much? You said yourself it took you 3 minutes. Can't be you put a ton of thought into it since it took only 3 minutes.

I don't fault you for your vote just your explanation it is not vote worthy imo and I did not vote you. These are just my thoughts on the matter. Atm I do not find you suspicious.
I appreciate your viewpoint expressed, and I'm glad just because you find my definition of random to be incorrect according to yours that it does not equate to malicious behavior.

I just feel the way I do about "randomizing", and I never will change my feelings about it. Every individual comes to their own logical conclusions and votes in mafia because of that person's own internal thought structure, so why am I not entitled to my own without it seeming suspicious? (not even a question to you, but to those who say I am a baddie) Why are people like Wazz and others always just shrugged off as "Oh, that's Wazz or ___", but that never applies to me?

Anyone who has played more than a few games with me should know that I have shown no behavior uncharacteristic of what is simply my personality and thought process. Says nothing about my intentions.
Now this is interesting because you pulled the SAME exact argument against me in that game. Check out the bolded. Now you were a recruited civvie in that game so I don't think you were recruited at that time, but you're making the same mistake here.

That's all the time I have to address this. Now I realize circumstances of that game and this game make things different and everything, but hopefully that helps provide some context, and I really hope people believe me because the baddies are avoiding lynch votes so far. The whole way the vote went on yesterday should be some indication.

I'll be back later after I study (I have to make up for lost time yesterday, lol), but I warn that lynching me would not be good and that it's clear I've been bandwagoned onto unfairly (yet again).

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Oops, i had a little bit of quote fail in there.

This part: "Now I came back to find that I had survived, thankfully, but that I did receive votes. Because day was over and I didn't die AND because my vote in that game honestly made less sense than my votes in this one, I was less frustrated than here." is my commentary THIS game. That should not be included in the quotes.

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What do you think of INH/LT 2.0, Snow Dog, llama, Dex, AATB, etc.? I would like to catch a baddie today and I do value your (and others') input, for whatever it is worth.

Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

Dex and AATB, I think I have played one game with each of them so have not got much of a read on either.

These may change if I go back and see who each voted for yesterday.

I know you don't want to hear this, but with what I have mentioned before and the way the lynch went down day one, I think you are baddie and the best way for us to get info on who the others are.
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MP, it strikes me that you were upset that people were judging you by other games played with you (I can't remember if it is this game or the other going on) but now you pull quotes from a past civ game?
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Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Care to explain your vote for me, llama?
I'm gabel voting for you because I think you wedded a baddie.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Care to explain your vote for me, llama?
I'm gabel voting for you because I think you wedded a baddie.
No he is not married.
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Snow Dog wrote:
Kate wrote:
Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

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I'm not lost. I may have made in hindsight some bad voting decisions but that's it.
Maybe lost was a tad strong of a word to use, you don't seem to have the confidence behind your posts the way you did in your last game, which leads me to believe you are on your own.
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Kate wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Kate wrote:
Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

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I'm not lost. I may have made in hindsight some bad voting decisions but that's it.
Maybe lost was a tad strong of a word to use, you don't seem to have the confidence behind your posts the way you did in your last game, which leads me to believe you are on your own.
Haha...and there was me thinking I was being more confident.
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I continue to be uneasy about MP. The anger after finding out votes were going his way just seemed out of character, more like he staged it to seem like a frustrated civv. MP, I won't vote for you without listening to your response to this.

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His anger came out of frustration, that's the way I see it anyway. i won't be voting for him any time soon unless my opinion has a radical change.
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To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
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That's an early vote Wombat. You are pretty sure about MP then?
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I didn't vote yet in case something comes up. No, I'm not sure, but he seems the most suspicious to me at the moment.
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Vompatti wrote:I didn't vote yet in case something comes up. No, I'm not sure, but he seems the most suspicious to me at the moment.
Oh sorry...it is Llama that voted and I somehow read your name. My mistake.
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Snow Dog wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I didn't vote yet in case something comes up. No, I'm not sure, but he seems the most suspicious to me at the moment.
Oh sorry...it is Llama that voted and I somehow read your name. My mistake.
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thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I didn't vote yet in case something comes up. No, I'm not sure, but he seems the most suspicious to me at the moment.
Oh sorry...it is Llama that voted and I somehow read your name. My mistake.
lumper decisive vote Lost Rabbi a unexcited vote.
Well maybe so, but it was a tad quick off the mark. Nothing wrong with that I guess, difficult to know who to vote.
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thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:We will see llama after you lynch me everyone will want you and MP gone!
If you flip civvie, my next vote will go to MP and that's a promise.
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Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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thellama73 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:We will see llama after you lynch me everyone will want you and MP gone!
If you flip civvie, my next vote will go to MP and that's a promise.
You should phrensy to alphabetarian wise young man called exenterate.
Ah of course...a prior promise. I'd forgot, thank you. But did she flip civvie? We don't know do we?
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Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:We will see llama after you lynch me everyone will want you and MP gone!
If you flip civvie, my next vote will go to MP and that's a promise.
You should phrensy to alphabetarian wise young man called exenterate.
Ah of course...a prior promise. I'd forgot, thank you. But did she flip civvie? We don't know do we?
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Well, I really don't like the pulling of quotes from other games to be used as a defense position in a current game. I mean, what is the point? This is a new game, different site and we all know, by now, that MP can lie his arse off. Better to defend using actions in THIS game, imo.

As for INH, now that I know what role he was, I am pretty shocked that he voted to lynch me! I was all set to come back and go after him & llama in a big way, tbh.

My top suspect is llamaboy as I said, but MP's posts are really pinging me now.

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Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
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Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Care to explain your vote for me, llama?
I'm gabel voting for you because I think you wedded a baddie.
No he is not married.
He better not be! ;)
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Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?
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Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?
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Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?
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You didn't think that voting to break a tie would be subject to scrutiny?
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Vompatti wrote: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
WIFOM is Shinny circular reasoning that results from trying disbelief determine the choices of an opponent lackwit conjuring with full Will O' The Wisp that Mock Turtle Spirit Oracle would be subject to guilty.
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Kate wrote:You didn't think that voting to break a tie would be subject to scrutiny?
I didn't think about that, I just thought that it would be useless to vote for someone other than boo or MP and since missing the vote seems to be generally frowned upon I picked one of the two which happened to break the tie.
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LittleTiger wrote:Well, I really don't like the pulling of quotes from other games to be used as a defense position in a current game. I mean, what is the point? This is a new game, different site and we all know, by now, that MP can lie his arse off. Better to defend using actions in THIS game, imo.

As for INH, now that I know what role he was, I am pretty shocked that he voted to lynch me! I was all set to come back and go after him & llama in a big way, tbh.

My top suspect is llamaboy as I said, but MP's posts are really pinging me now.

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