WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

[Duelist Mirage]

You should only expect anger if you know your read of me is incorrect, no ?

I keep liking my vote more.

What?

I'm starting to think Vivax might be some kind of robot

I don't think Spurs is wrong to find something like that in your tone, I'm not sure anger is quite the right way to describe it but you're definitely coming off in a rather off-putting manner and I'm not sure if its wolfy or a playstyle thing

[Duelist Mirage]

Taking into account that you could have been conf biasing is me playing advocatus diaboli for you. As for the validity of your initial argument, I keep not seeing it.

I'm done with this for now. I'm not currently voting for you, and if you're town I suggest you find a wolf.

Might just end up voting with people I currently think are town (jess, nut, gims). Michelle to a weak extent.

Reconsidering if I should keep my TR on pyxxy.
NicoleAD kinda nothingburger to me.

A few townreads, stuff I think makes you votable. But there‘s lots of nothingburger apart from that.

Well, we're at least going in the right direction here.

Why were you townreading pyxxy?

[Duelist Mirage]

Who wants to razzle dazzle me with a tl;dr because there ain't no way I'm backreading rn

Well that's not terribly helpful. When do you expect to participate?

[Duelist Mirage]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up

That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

[Dubz]

Who wants to razzle dazzle me with a tl;dr because there ain't no way I'm backreading rn

Well that's not terribly helpful. When do you expect to participate?

Does participation have to come in the form of reading everything I missed? Because that's unlikely to happen any time soon.

I expect I will be more active over my weekend though.

[Duelist Mirage]

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

Since I don't want to just focus on me, mind talking to me about this player? I can't really get a strong impression from any of their six posts

Have you read the whole game now? You said you were catching up...

[Dubz]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Remember how JJJ told us in our last game that he often goes for low posters on d1?

nvm you were co-modding with me, so you almost certainly didn't read that. But he did.

Anyways, I'm making a conscious effort to evaluate the low-posters a little more on d1 rather than helltunneling a high-poster that sees the world differently than me, and I felt leetic's posts seemed a little opportunistic and scummy.

You are correct I have no memory of this, but noted

[Trekkie99]

[VOTE: GoSpursGo] aubergine

Neat. Why?

i was staring at the votecount and my gut felt like ur vote on leetic was wofy

^ town

[Duelist Mirage]

And yeah GoSpursGo's reasons for voting me don't look great. Don't want to continue too much on this train of thought since I know it's an easy way to get confbiased but the last time I played a game here like half the wolves outed themselves by going after me for no reason

Oh look more OMGUS.

I agree with your gims point though

Do you have any more insight on gims? Also, jess can you explain why you TR them?

Nothing that wise about gims. My first impression of them was towny because they were snapping off reads and trying to get engagement. More recently they've been calling everyone scummy and talking about sheeping and such, which is just kinda vibing negatively with me. Not seriously considering voting there but keeping an eye on them going forward to see if they can bring the energy they started the game with back.

It shouldn't vibe negatively, I think this is gims settling into his townplay, albeit with somewhat lower activity than might be typical or desired

[Trekkie99]

jess likely town

heeheehee

[leetic]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up

That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

[Trekkie99]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

lmao ironically this post from leetic is the one i actually find wolfy

opposite

[leetic]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Remember how JJJ told us in our last game that he often goes for low posters on d1?

nvm you were co-modding with me, so you almost certainly didn't read that. But he did.

Anyways, I'm making a conscious effort to evaluate the low-posters a little more on d1 rather than helltunneling a high-poster that sees the world differently than me, and I felt leetic's posts seemed a little opportunistic and scummy.

Helltunneling a high poster at least gives us more to work with than doing the same to someone who just voted once and maybe dropped a read on another player. I haven't seen a lot of boldness in your reads thus far, so I'd like to see that you aren't just hiding behind pushing a low poster here

[leetic]

everybody is kind of melting together in my brain
I love nicole but I worry she is wolf just from like the silly gif when she wasn't townread which is not a good reason but I don't have much else rn anyway lol

thought whoever i was talking to about multi ball was kinda wolfy for suggesting there may be multiball which is why I responded to that post
I didnt get my answer cuz I didn't really ask directly enough thru my roleplay but, my concern was that it was brought up cuz they thought the person who scumread me was like, wolf, but also I was wolf, but for ?? reason they didn't assume it was w/w interaction

however the other person asked more directly and I suppose the answer provided that the idear came from the stark contrast of tone difference perhaps playing into the read due to potential multiball is like. good

I guess this is a decent looking post but it's the only thing of note in the entire ISO

[leetic]

Can someone explain the case on Vivax to me?

[GoSpursGo]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Remember how JJJ told us in our last game that he often goes for low posters on d1?

nvm you were co-modding with me, so you almost certainly didn't read that. But he did.

Anyways, I'm making a conscious effort to evaluate the low-posters a little more on d1 rather than helltunneling a high-poster that sees the world differently than me, and I felt leetic's posts seemed a little opportunistic and scummy.

Helltunneling a high poster at least gives us more to work with than doing the same to someone who just voted once and maybe dropped a read on another player. I haven't seen a lot of boldness in your reads thus far, so I'd like to see that you aren't just hiding behind pushing a low poster here

Why on earth would you expect boldness to equate with towniness? Is that what you're hoping your vote on Scotty looks like? Bold=towny?

But even if I accepted the premise, in this case there has been ample discussion surrounding your slot where I think a reasonable amount could be concluded based on you flipping even if it's green.

[gims]

I think aureal is scummy

[gims]

Ugh thats duelist mirage

[gims]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Remember how JJJ told us in our last game that he often goes for low posters on d1?

nvm you were co-modding with me, so you almost certainly didn't read that. But he did.

Anyways, I'm making a conscious effort to evaluate the low-posters a little more on d1 rather than helltunneling a high-poster that sees the world differently than me, and I felt leetic's posts seemed a little opportunistic and scummy.

Helltunneling a high poster at least gives us more to work with than doing the same to someone who just voted once and maybe dropped a read on another player. I haven't seen a lot of boldness in your reads thus far, so I'd like to see that you aren't just hiding behind pushing a low poster here

Why on earth would you expect boldness to equate with towniness? Is that what you're hoping your vote on Scotty looks like? Bold=towny?

But even if I accepted the premise, in this case there has been ample discussion surrounding your slot where I think a reasonable amount could be concluded based on you flipping even if it's green.

Wow I hate this post

[gims]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

[GoSpursGo]

Wow I hate this post

Explain in abundant detail

[GoSpursGo]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

[VOTE: gims] aubergine

[nutella]

yeah michelle is fine

Is she? Now she seems... IDK snippier than I recall, lol. I guess I'm not entirely unbiased here but I'm not very impressed by her contribution thus far.

i was genuinely thinking of randomly pressure voting rondo before pyxxy beat me to it

Well now I'm really confused, is that supposed to do anything other than make him still do nothing here and then later get mad about how people kinda wanted him to do something sooner?

no it isn't really supposed to do anything in particular

[gims]

I just scumread way too many ppl here

Trekkie is doing a thing where idk what he is saying unless I effort and it looks fluid so its getting townreads but I aint feeling it

DM has so many posts im scratching my head abt where im going "ok why are you even focusing in this thing, does it help you at all?"

Nicole's best post is still imo that one sussing leetic

And then I have a lot of ppl im readless on

Spurs was okay early game but I dont like the latter part of his posting

I Trust scotty and jess and thats it

[gims]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

[VOTE: gims] aubergine

Dont omgus me I just explained why the post is bad, voting me for it wont make it any better

[GoSpursGo]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Boldness may relate to towniness, but it certainly doesn't equate with towniness which is what I was saying.

Yes I'm asking rhetorical questions of the player I'm actively voting and scum-reading.

I did not say the last line. I'm saying it in specific relation to his counter-idea of helltunneling a high poster. OF COURSE I'm voting where I think scum may be, but considering what information we would get in the case of a town flip is a reasonable consideration, particularly on day 1.

Not sure if we just strongly disagree or if your post is in bad faith. But I'm just annoyed to be the top poster, and the first player to put a vote on the board, and the player who has probably voted most frequently, and I'm giving some town-reads, and I'm still getting accused on not being "bold enough," whatever that means.

[GoSpursGo]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

I'm tired of being told my posts are bad, so I'm going to go do something else

[Dubz]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Why so spicy?

I was spicy once after I had a run in with a hydrogen bomb. Have you been exposed to high levels of radiation?

[gims]

Maybe you believe what youre saying so imma drop it

[gims]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Why so spicy?

I was spicy once after I had a run in with a hydrogen bomb. Have you been exposed to high levels of radiation?

Im abt to watch a show and sleeps so I wanted to make a big wave to figure things out

[Dubz]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Boldness may relate to towniness, but it certainly doesn't equate with towniness which is what I was saying.

Yes I'm asking rhetorical questions of the player I'm actively voting and scum-reading.

I did not say the last line. I'm saying it in specific relation to his counter-idea of helltunneling a high poster. OF COURSE I'm voting where I think scum may be, but considering what information we would get in the case of a town flip is a reasonable consideration, particularly on day 1.

Not sure if we just strongly disagree or if your post is in bad faith. But I'm just annoyed to be the top poster, and the first player to put a vote on the board, and the player who has probably voted most frequently, and I'm giving some town-reads, and I'm still getting accused on not being "bold enough," whatever that means.

Hmm this feels like v!Spurs

[gims]

@jess @nutella @Scotty tell me where to vote

[Dubz]

Which means!

I can sheep before I sleep!

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

[Trekkie99]

Michelle's use of the phrase "late to the party" is noteworthy as the only other time she has said that was earlier this year in GoC where she was mafia: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 0#p1165130

So yeah, maybe. That could be a tell. Other than that it looks like she was only able to be here for about 15 minutes.

Beautiful. Stunning. Exquisite. Forum mafia in it's purist form.

Mac 3p?

[Trekkie99]

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

[Trekkie99]

Big games are fricking hard man

[gims]

Big games are fricking hard man

[gims]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Alright

Spurs does sound like town

[gims]

I vibe with trekkie voting dubz here

Not that I have a dubz read

[Duelist Mirage]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up

That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

[Duelist Mirage]

I just scumread way too many ppl here

Trekkie is doing a thing where idk what he is saying unless I effort and it looks fluid so its getting townreads but I aint feeling it

DM has so many posts im scratching my head abt where im going "ok why are you even focusing in this thing, does it help you at all?"

Nicole's best post is still imo that one sussing leetic

And then I have a lot of ppl im readless on

Spurs was okay early game but I dont like the latter part of his posting

I Trust scotty and jess and thats it

Well sorry for wasting my precious time yapping trying to get people talking and maybe more sortable

Maybe you should think about what sort of motivation I would have for doing that sort of thing at this point, after all I've been through recently

We've got 48 hours to try to sort a playerlist that's got like half the people doing basically nothing sortable, and the deadline is at 3am on a freaking work night so don't bloody well expect me to be around to try to parse whatever happens in the final hours, but why should I try doing thing to figure shit out huh?

[nutella]

[VOTE: spurs] aubergine

Feeling #bold

[nutella]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Boldness may relate to towniness, but it certainly doesn't equate with towniness which is what I was saying.

Yes I'm asking rhetorical questions of the player I'm actively voting and scum-reading.

I did not say the last line. I'm saying it in specific relation to his counter-idea of helltunneling a high poster. OF COURSE I'm voting where I think scum may be, but considering what information we would get in the case of a town flip is a reasonable consideration, particularly on day 1.

Not sure if we just strongly disagree or if your post is in bad faith. But I'm just annoyed to be the top poster, and the first player to put a vote on the board, and the player who has probably voted most frequently, and I'm giving some town-reads, and I'm still getting accused on not being "bold enough," whatever that means.

Hmm this feels like v!Spurs

Ehhh ok probably

[nutella]

@jess @nutella @Scotty tell me where to vote

Fine with any of nicole/vivax/leetic I think

[nutella]

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Or this idk

[leetic]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up

That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

[nutella]

Huh when did the leetic wagon get so big

Maybe I'm not comfortable with that

[leetic]

I guess I agree with Nicole that leetic post is not great

Is this enough of a reason for you to be the fourth/fifth (not keeping count) vote on a wagon when no other wagon is close?

[GoSpursGo]

[VOTE: spurs] aubergine

Feeling #bold

lol.

Do you care to share why I'm scummy, rather than just loud?

[GoSpursGo]

[VOTE: spurs] aubergine

Feeling #bold

lol.

Do you care to share why I'm scummy, rather than just loud?

apparently I type slow