WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

[leetic]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Doesn't look like a partner interaction but I don't feel very good about this either way. Why do you trust Spurs so much Dubz?

[nutella]

@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh

[GoSpursGo]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Doesn't look like a partner interaction but I don't feel very good about this either way. Why do you trust Spurs so much Dubz?

dubz and I are both from the same site (studentdoctornetwork). She's easily the player I'm most familiar with here.

I cannot say her current content is particularly town-indicative, but I'm not inclined to get rid of the one player I'm somewhat familiar with.

[leetic]

It feels like the only reason I'm a wagon here is because everyone is sheeping someone who's only really pushing me because they want to push a low poster (and at this point there's much lower posters than me). Feels like confbias off of only one post

[leetic]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Doesn't look like a partner interaction but I don't feel very good about this either way. Why do you trust Spurs so much Dubz?

dubz and I are both from the same site (studentdoctornetwork). She's easily the player I'm most familiar with here.

I cannot say her current content is particularly town-indicative, but I'm not inclined to get rid of the one player I'm somewhat familiar with.

Wasn't asking you but whatever. If she's the player you're most familiar with I'd expect you to say more about her posts than "I cannot say her current content is particularly town-indicative"

[leetic]

Like that's a good example of the lack of boldness I'm seeing here!

[GoSpursGo]

@GoSpursGo if you tell me about your leetic vote I'll spare your house when I go rampaging through the city

Doesn't look like a partner interaction but I don't feel very good about this either way. Why do you trust Spurs so much Dubz?

dubz and I are both from the same site (studentdoctornetwork). She's easily the player I'm most familiar with here.

I cannot say her current content is particularly town-indicative, but I'm not inclined to get rid of the one player I'm somewhat familiar with.

Wasn't asking you but whatever. If she's the player you're most familiar with I'd expect you to say more about her posts than "I cannot say her current content is particularly town-indicative"

While I'm more familiar with dubz, I'm astonishingly bad at reading her

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[GoSpursGo]

@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh

Is this more related to leetic looking towny to you, or nicole looking scummy?

[Duelist Mirage]

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

To town, generally yes

[Vivax]

There's a bit of stuff that irritates me about Scotty overall like the easy mark comment or the way he went about quoting Epignosis without really doing much about him. Nothing strong, as to be expected.
Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.
Trekkie voting Dubz after her pileup on leetic doesn't really tell me much about it.

[GoSpursGo]

Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.

Can you talk to me about why that is? Is it more about Rondo or leetic?

[nutella]

@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh

Is this more related to leetic looking towny to you, or nicole looking scummy?

It's all about how the petals fall

[Vivax]

Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.

Can you talk to me about why that is? Is it more about Rondo or leetic?

I mean, either. Rondo's been doing funk all except shiteposting while leetic displays at least a sprout of inquisitiveness. Not that the game dynamic is very encouraging of activity atm. It's like crawling through the mud.
Trekkies vote on dubz felt kinda smart even though I didn't know why I felt that way so I'd like it a bit expounded on.

[Duelist Mirage]

Huh when did the leetic wagon get so big

Maybe I'm not comfortable with that

Four votes is "so big"?? There's 20 players in the game! That's barely one third of a majority of the players!

Remember World Unhinged? How big were those wagons?

Last game's D1 was decided by a 3-3 tie that would have seriously changed the course of the game had the RNG gone the other way, I am not in the mood for hand wringing about the idea of townies consolidating on a wagon

[jess]

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

Or this idk

does anyone in this game have a good read on epi? i do find him a little wolfy but it's really just bcuz of the absence of towny posts more than anything specific

[jess]

I just scumread way too many ppl here

Trekkie is doing a thing where idk what he is saying unless I effort and it looks fluid so its getting townreads but I aint feeling it

DM has so many posts im scratching my head abt where im going "ok why are you even focusing in this thing, does it help you at all?"

Nicole's best post is still imo that one sussing leetic

And then I have a lot of ppl im readless on

Spurs was okay early game but I dont like the latter part of his posting

I Trust scotty and jess and thats it

ty for reaffirming to me that ur town

[Duelist Mirage]

I guess I agree with Nicole that leetic post is not great

Is this enough of a reason for you to be the fourth/fifth (not keeping count) vote on a wagon when no other wagon is close?

Basically everything you're saying is complaining about people being willing to vote you. What do you expect this to accomplish? You're not even taking an original tack here, Michelle is the one who started the complaining about voting lower posters!

[GoSpursGo]

Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.

Can you talk to me about why that is? Is it more about Rondo or leetic?

I mean, either. Rondo's been doing funk all except shiteposting while leetic displays at least a sprout of inquisitiveness. Not that the game dynamic is very encouraging of activity atm. It's like crawling through the mud.
Trekkies vote on dubz felt kinda smart even though I didn't know why I felt that way so I'd like it a bit expounded on.

I won't be voting Rondo. This is exactly what he did in the last game we played (except he landed with his d1 vote on me, lol), and he was town. So I don't find his play here AI at all.

I think leetic was going to be very happy just coasting through d1 until they started catching some votes, and inquisitiveness is easy to fake.

[jess]

i wouldnt worry about it for another phase or so but ftr mac hasnt been towny yet

[GoSpursGo]

@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh

Is this more related to leetic looking towny to you, or nicole looking scummy?

It's all about how the petals fall

I guess I'll be more direct--can you tell me why you find nicole scummy atp?

[Long Con]

Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up

That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine

[Vivax]

Boldness does relate to townyness

"So are you doing x to get townread?" Is a loaded ass rhetorical question

"I think you should flip cause theres things we can CONCLUDE even If youre town" is a pretty bad take imo, theres nothing to CONCLUDE from a goddamn townflip other than we sucked at flipping scum instead

Boldness may relate to towniness, but it certainly doesn't equate with towniness which is what I was saying.

Yes I'm asking rhetorical questions of the player I'm actively voting and scum-reading.

I did not say the last line. I'm saying it in specific relation to his counter-idea of helltunneling a high poster. OF COURSE I'm voting where I think scum may be, but considering what information we would get in the case of a town flip is a reasonable consideration, particularly on day 1.

Not sure if we just strongly disagree or if your post is in bad faith. But I'm just annoyed to be the top poster, and the first player to put a vote on the board, and the player who has probably voted most frequently, and I'm giving some town-reads, and I'm still getting accused on not being "bold enough," whatever that means.

Hmm this feels like v!Spurs

Which means!

I can sheep before I sleep!

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

It's such a lazy vote

[Long Con]

The machine has also been producing some less alarming results. Jess has looked fairly Towny to me so far, and the GoSpursGo/gims exchange looks rather like two Town people arguing past one another. There is plenty of heat being generated, certainly, but my instruments are detecting surprisingly little wolf radiation.

Admittedly, "wolf radiation" is a relatively new unit of measurement. I am still awaiting peer review.

[Duelist Mirage]

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly?

To Scotty

Do try harder to read the context next time, hm?

[Long Con]

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly?

To Scotty

Do try harder to read the context next time, hm?

Ah, yes, yes, I was attempting a deeper implication myself, implying unknown to you yourself, as though that were not the gamestate generally from your, er, perspective! I apologize for the misunderstanding, I spend ahhh most of my time in the lab these days, very little time for the, eh, mastering of social cues, perhaps.

[Vivax]

Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.

Can you talk to me about why that is? Is it more about Rondo or leetic?

I mean, either. Rondo's been doing funk all except shiteposting while leetic displays at least a sprout of inquisitiveness. Not that the game dynamic is very encouraging of activity atm. It's like crawling through the mud.
Trekkies vote on dubz felt kinda smart even though I didn't know why I felt that way so I'd like it a bit expounded on.

I won't be voting Rondo. This is exactly what he did in the last game we played (except he landed with his d1 vote on me, lol), and he was town. So I don't find his play here AI at all.

I think leetic was going to be very happy just coasting through d1 until they started catching some votes, and inquisitiveness is easy to fake.

What's your take on Epi and Dubz ?
Sorry if it makes you repeat yourself, I'm kinda frontpage surfing atm.

Sure Rondo doing that might not be AI, it's not really an argument against a vote either.

[GoSpursGo]

Chat, has leetic been identified as an easy miselim to follow a few loud posters onto, or have they become increasingly wolfy since becoming a center of attention?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, where did @Scotty go?

[Long Con]

I do not wish leetic to be today's vote.

[GoSpursGo]

Rondo's more yeetable than leetic to me atm.

Can you talk to me about why that is? Is it more about Rondo or leetic?

I mean, either. Rondo's been doing funk all except shiteposting while leetic displays at least a sprout of inquisitiveness. Not that the game dynamic is very encouraging of activity atm. It's like crawling through the mud.
Trekkies vote on dubz felt kinda smart even though I didn't know why I felt that way so I'd like it a bit expounded on.

I won't be voting Rondo. This is exactly what he did in the last game we played (except he landed with his d1 vote on me, lol), and he was town. So I don't find his play here AI at all.

I think leetic was going to be very happy just coasting through d1 until they started catching some votes, and inquisitiveness is easy to fake.

What's your take on Epi and Dubz ?
Sorry if it makes you repeat yourself, I'm kinda frontpage surfing atm.

Sure Rondo doing that might not be AI, it's not really an argument against a vote either.

I have no read on epi.

GTH I'd call dubz scum, but again I'm bad at reading her and I'd rather not vote out the other SDN player on d1.

I'm just saying I don't find Rondo scummy. If others want to go there neither will I shield him.

I'm sorry that this post likely doesn't help, but I'm not going to invent reads I don't have.

[GoSpursGo]

I do not wish leetic to be today's vote.

How come?

[Long Con]

I do not wish leetic to be today's vote.

How come?

I believe that he has brought forth legitimate topics to the thread, that come from genuine study of posts. I also feel that his perspective is sound, as evidenced when he brought up the previous game wherein he was early-voted by a, ah, pack of Wolves.

[GoSpursGo]

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

Sheeping nutella, and epig's vote on wilgy is wack.

Also yielding to nutella's shielding of leetic.

If I'm pocketed by nutella, hopefully I figure that out soon.

[Long Con]

I have seen references to nutella being Towny, and yet I feel like the data is not there for my own analysis. What is the most Towny thing about her, from your perspective?

[GoSpursGo]

leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

@nutella do you still think this is true? If so wouldn't it make sense to try and resolve some of this difference check? Or do you think it's t/t/t violence now?

[GoSpursGo]

I have seen references to nutella being Towny, and yet I feel like the data is not there for my own analysis. What is the most Towny thing about her, from your perspective?

They were just one of the earliest solve-y people in the thread, so it was one of my earlier reads and I haven't wavered on it

[Vivax]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[Vivax]

Upgrading GSG to not-scum.
My brain currently wants it to be something like tranq/trekkie/dubz.
Feels like the kinda 'sideways' shift that hits something or all even.

[jess]

When the stars shine bright
Do we commandeer the ship?
Or...go down with it?

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[nutella]

leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

@nutella do you still think this is true? If so wouldn't it make sense to try and resolve some of this difference check? Or do you think it's t/t/t violence now?

currently viewing as t/t/t in fact

[jess]

leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

@nutella do you still think this is true? If so wouldn't it make sense to try and resolve some of this difference check? Or do you think it's t/t/t violence now?

currently viewing as t/t/t in fact

idk about vivax but i agree on the other two in this moment

[GoSpursGo]

Upgrading GSG to not-scum.
My brain currently wants it to be something like tranq/trekkie/dubz.
Feels like the kinda 'sideways' shift that hits something or all even.

If you're powerwolfing me, you're doing a very good job of it, so I'm going to just live in the world where we're t/t for a bit.

Re-reviewing trekkie's ISO, it's pretty devoid of content. I wouldn't be opposed to creating a wagon there.

You asked me about epig, do you have a read there?

[jess]

eh actually i guess vivax has been a little towny this page

[Long Con]

leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

@nutella do you still think this is true? If so wouldn't it make sense to try and resolve some of this difference check? Or do you think it's t/t/t violence now?

currently viewing as t/t/t in fact

idk about vivax but i agree on the other two in this moment

Ah, ha ha I was about to say the same.

[Duelist Mirage]

I do not wish leetic to be today's vote.

How come?

I believe that he has brought forth legitimate topics to the thread, that come from genuine study of posts. I also feel that his perspective is sound, as evidenced when he brought up the previous game wherein he was early-voted by a, ah, pack of Wolves.

Is leetic supposed to forget things that happened to him previously if he rolls wolf, and thus be unable to bring them up?

[Long Con]

eh actually i guess vivax has been a little towny this page

How so?

[Vivax]

Upgrading GSG to not-scum.
My brain currently wants it to be something like tranq/trekkie/dubz.
Feels like the kinda 'sideways' shift that hits something or all even.

If you're powerwolfing me, you're doing a very good job of it, so I'm going to just live in the world where we're t/t for a bit.

Re-reviewing trekkie's ISO, it's pretty devoid of content. I wouldn't be opposed to creating a wagon there.

You asked me about epig, do you have a read there?

None, tbh.
Seemed like a bunch of ramblings that didn't have much to do with the game at all.
At most Scottys reaction to it felt noteworthy.

[NicoleAndDime]

Yeah leetic is feeling survivalistic here and I don't really like them just bemoaning the wagon on them. I actually feel quite a bit better about this wagon than earlier.

[VOTE: Leetic ] aubergine

Anyway gotta bounce for rest of day prolly, maybe can check in once more in like an hour.

[Long Con]

I do not wish leetic to be today's vote.

How come?

I believe that he has brought forth legitimate topics to the thread, that come from genuine study of posts. I also feel that his perspective is sound, as evidenced when he brought up the previous game wherein he was early-voted by a, ah, pack of Wolves.

Is leetic supposed to forget things that happened to him previously if he rolls wolf, and thus be unable to bring them up?

Yes. true, it is not 100% scientifically proven that this is not the case, but in my studies, I have often found that one does not often live up to all potential ideas that could have inspired the mind at any given time. I find it more likely that a similar situation would evoke such memories, where, were he a Wolf, the memories of early voting would trigger differently.

[GoSpursGo]

Yeah leetic is feeling survivalistic here and I don't really like them just bemoaning the wagon on them. I actually feel quite a bit better about this wagon than earlier.

[VOTE: Leetic ] aubergine

Anyway gotta bounce for rest of day prolly, maybe can check in once more in like an hour.

It's a reasonable opinion.

I think I feel a little better about vivax than leetic atp. vivax I can feel is actually giving some thought and re-evaluating their positions, whereas leetic I agree is kinda in survival mode.

I also agree that epig hasn't done anything to help them feel findable. People have felt less excited about voting there than some of the other slots.

[GoSpursGo]

I guess I'd generally trust nutella and scotty, and in my current worldview vivax is probably town.

My POE is something on the order of Epig, leetic, trekkie.

Everyone else can be in the fluffy middle.