Death Note Mafia [END]

[Epignosis]

Not saying "I'm civvie" when you don't have to. Feels like you're trying to spin.

I never say that. "I'm civvie" is dumb. The word "civvie" is dumb and not even a word.

No offense to any of you who use it.

That doesn't address my actual point

I don't give a toss if I address any of your points. Do forgive me.

[Tangrowth]

Day 4: Secret Word

DharmaHelper filled in the last two words. Snowman's Note started glowing.

The role secrets being revealed to you do not tell the entire story. Are they everything? No, they are not. Keep solving these and you can learn that not only Snowman lost the game but also the existence of secret win conditions. Are these win conditions the only secrets beyond what is being revealed? Not quite. There are some role secrets that even the players who were given these roles did not receive in their role PM. Another note will elucidate this matter, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. Without further ado, what follows is Snowman's real win condition. Secret win condition: You do not need all Detectives dead to win the game. Because you are so greedy, you really only care about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain. If you lead at least three lynches throughout the game and successfully lynch your target, you can win with any team. To lead a lynch successfully, you must: (1) build an argument as to why your lynch target is a baddie (without shirking role outing rules), (2) convince at least three other players to vote for that player for the reasons you stated, (3) be one of the first five players to vote for that person, and (4) get that player lynched. If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you satisfy the first two criteria. It does not matter what alignment or role your lynch target is. Completion of this puzzle triggers the secret event. Good luck!

SOCKFACE: Congratulations! You have not only gained important insight into the game, but you also have triggered the secret event!


It is still Day 4.

The first player to post the secret word will uncover more secrets!

[DharmaHelper]

Kira

[Turnip Head]

Apples

[Turnip Head]

Or "Apple"

[DharmaHelper]

Boring judgement lynch role secret kill killer team win.

[DharmaHelper]

Is it shirk?

[Epignosis]

Fuckery.

[AceofSpaces]

Bored

[bea]

What about the lynch? I won't be here more than a few minutes or so tomorrow, so if anyone has other suggestions other than TH (which I don't plan to vote for at this point), I'd love to hear suggestions.


linki: Bea, that's why I said llama's point about TH voting early, as a reason to see him as a baddie is null

I get that - but I also get why llama thinks that makes him bad. Maybe if TH isn't bad he should quit voting llama

[DharmaHelper]

Mom's spaghetti. Sockface

[Zombarella]

Elucidate?

[AceofSpaces]

Apple was a good guess. If it were me, I'd make the secret word apple.

[Turnip Head]

What about the lynch? I won't be here more than a few minutes or so tomorrow, so if anyone has other suggestions other than TH (which I don't plan to vote for at this point), I'd love to hear suggestions.


linki: Bea, that's why I said llama's point about TH voting early, as a reason to see him as a baddie is null

I get that - but I also get why llama thinks that makes him bad. Maybe if TH isn't bad he should quit voting llama

I moved on from Llama a while ago :P

[thellama73]

@ Llama, what's the rush? We still have one more day. Plus, the puzzle isn't nothing, it triggers an event/secret or whatever. Plus, it's fun.

Because waiting to discuss lynches until the last minute always results in bad outcomes.

I think I'll vote TH just for that mammoth, obnoxious post.

Noted.

Are there any low posters that you would consider voting for? I want to win, but I also want to play. TH writes lots of posts and that makes the game more fun.

And more difficult for people to follow.

True....

I don't think I'm interested in lynching low posters today unless you can give me a good reason why I should. I've put my opinions about who should be lynched out there. I'd like to hear others now, rather than have people keep asking me to evaluate other people for them.

[juliets]

triggers, event

[thellama73]

Well, this note from Snowman is a pretty big deal. It tells us that there are players out there who can win just by leading lynches against anyone. I agree that MM, TH, and Llama could all fit in to this category. Does this bother anyone else?

If you're worried about me leading lynches, then why don't you lead one?

[bea]

I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

I agree.

Is there anyone else besides TH that you would be willing to look at today?

I'm cooking dinner now -but TH feels like a rats nest I don't have time to dive into.

If there are other people on your list, I'd be happy to look at them.

[DharmaHelper]

Role Secrets! Secret roles!

[AceofSpaces]

I'd like to lynch either Made or Zomberella. In that order.

Shinigami. Candy. Sweets.

[thellama73]

I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

I agree.

Is there anyone else besides TH that you would be willing to look at today?

I'm cooking dinner now -but TH feels like a rats nest I don't have time to dive into.

If there are other people on your list, I'd be happy to look at them.

It's not about who I want to look at. I've been looking at people, and I've mentioned most of them in the thread. I think TH is bad and will probably vote for him.

You and FZ and Zombrella seems very interested in swaying me to vote for someone else. Who do you want me to vote for and why? I know who I want to vote for. If you want me to do otherwise, the burden is on you to convince me.

[juliets]

I'm going to reread Made. There was something, I just cant remember what, that triggered my interest. It may have been that he is posting so little compared to his normal civ state. I'll know more after I reread.

[bea]

I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

Who do you think we should lynch?

Who do you think we should lynch Bass? You've been flying on the outskirts of this game. Jump in and have fun!!


linki - llama - it's not that I want you to vote someone else - it's that I'm honestly too lazy to go do the work for TH - I'm not trying to persuade you to vote anywhere - quite the contrary - I was asking where else I could look for someone to talk about, because I have good feels about you and if there was something you had a feel about that you had not fully fleshed out - that wasn't TH - I'd be willing to do the leg work for.

[DharmaHelper]

Who will say the secret word first, I wonder?

[boo]

snowman

[bea]

Okay guys, no big deal, the last word we're looking for is somewhere in here! Easy peasy!

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This post makes sense to a code breaker - and it actively makes a skim reader like DP not want to keep up with the thread. Just sayin'.

[boo]

It's note, or the puzzle that was submitted and what MP says is correct are not the same.

[DharmaHelper]

So you decided to quote it because......?

Clever way to try and hit the secret word Bea!

[Turnip Head]

@Bea, and you just quoted it. Just sayin'.

That post was obviously a joke, so I don't see why it would deter anyone from reading the rest of the thread. And DP is barely playing anyway, as usual, so I have no sympathy for him :P

[boo]

Submitted answer: Another role will elucidate this matter, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered.
MP: Another note will elucidate this matter, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered.

Ofc, the letters o and e are the same there, so he may have just let it slide.

[bea]

@ Llama, what's the rush? We still have one more day. Plus, the puzzle isn't nothing, it triggers an event/secret or whatever. Plus, it's fun.

Because waiting to discuss lynches until the last minute always results in bad outcomes.

I think I'll vote TH just for that mammoth, obnoxious post.

I'm sorry I requoted it. I was told that my all at once catch ups are annoying and not full of anything so I guess you guys get them line by line again.

[DharmaHelper]

Good catch boo.

[Zombarella]

Well, this note from Snowman is a pretty big deal. It tells us that there are players out there who can win just by leading lynches against anyone. I agree that MM, TH, and Llama could all fit in to this category. Does this bother anyone else?

If you're worried about me leading lynches, then why don't you lead one?

I did tons of work on the Snowman lynch. But that doesn't really have anything to do with your voting history. What about DP, Bass, Made, and Russ? Don't they need to help too?

[Turnip Head]

Bea I was just pointing out the irony of what you were accusing me of. I have no problem with you quoting long posts, but you're the one who is saying that long posts are detrimental.

[bea]

Well, this note from Snowman is a pretty big deal. It tells us that there are players out there who can win just by leading lynches against anyone. I agree that MM, TH, and Llama could all fit in to this category. Does this bother anyone else?

I have good feels about llama - Not sure what to make of the other two.

[Zombarella]

I'd like to lynch either Made or Zomberella. In that order.

Shinigami. Candy. Sweets.

I would consider voting Made (but not Zomba - I love her). He seems to show up and say, "Oh my, so much to read, I don't know where to vote." IIRC that is the same behavior that convinced people to vote for Snowman.

Annie, Homestar, Accounting

[Epignosis]

"Dead Weight."

[bea]

Bea I was just pointing out the irony of what you were accusing me of. I have no problem with you quoting long posts, but you're the one who is saying that long posts are detrimental.

No worries TH - I realized like 10 seconds after I quoted it I was doing the same thing. LOL. I'm dumb most of the time. Ask anyone - they'll tell you.

[Elohcin]

According to episode 17, L is a good kisser.

[Epignosis]

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

[thellama73]

Well, this note from Snowman is a pretty big deal. It tells us that there are players out there who can win just by leading lynches against anyone. I agree that MM, TH, and Llama could all fit in to this category. Does this bother anyone else?

If you're worried about me leading lynches, then why don't you lead one?

I did tons of work on the Snowman lynch. But that doesn't really have anything to do with your voting history. What about DP, Bass, Made, and Russ? Don't they need to help too?

I thought your accusation was that I might win by leading lynches. If you believe that, you should be trying to prevent me from leading lynches, rather than encouraging me as you have been doing.

@Bea: I would remember what Epi said about who would kill LC and SVS, and cross reference that with the people who want to talk about everything other than a lynch. I think TH falls squarely into that category. Boo might as well. DH might as well. Rico has been distracting, but is too new, in my opinion, to go after LC.

I have extremely bad feels about Zombrella, but again, I hesitate, because I don't think LC would have been her first choice to kill.

[Elohcin]

[juliets]

Aces did you already explain what you saw in Made? If so, I'll just read back through your posts. If not, can you share your reasons?

[Tangrowth]

Submitted answer: Another role will elucidate this matter, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered.
MP: Another note will elucidate this matter, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered.

Ofc, the letters o and e are the same there, so he may have just let it slide.

Total oversight on my part! No worries.

[Epignosis]

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

[Turnip Head]

Hahaha why is Elo posting fangirl pictures of L

[thellama73]

Did I miss where MM explained his vote for TH? He's another one I think fits the distraction/LC murder criterion.

[Epignosis]

Hahaha why is Elo posting fangirl pictures of L

It's not L. It's the tongue thing.

I don't get it either.

[AceofSpaces]

Aces did you already explain what you saw in Made? If so, I'll just read back through your posts. If not, can you share your reasons?

I explained briefly at the start of the day. I'll go into more detail early tomorrow.

[Zombarella]

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

Why do you keep posting the words "dead weight"?