WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

[Epignosis]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

[Porscha]

Rondo is another player like Mac
Feels like they’re operating on a higher plane/tmi

wow even trekkie spewed rondo town. amaze balls

[gims]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

the whole thing can be wrong, as long as the POE is correct we still win this with two hands behind our backs

unfortunately we can't flat out win the game next gameday because DM is still alive and ruining a perfectly competent plan but it is what it is.

[Porscha]

okay.

so I think mac is spewed town via trekkie's posts

the 'higher plane/TMI' comment where he also talks about mac and then rondo is a bad look for rondo because trekkie never ever pushes that read again, and has basically no interactions with rondo otherwise

I think the leetic vote is now phrased in a way that could be unpaired for leetic

which works for me since I don't think pyxxy/leetic are ever paired

tbf to rondo, I dont think trekkie would have had much real potential to interact with rondo. rondo responds to like 3 posts per day and role plays doing tea

[Golden]

I don't know how to validate my vote but I suppose I have to bow to golden?

*bows to golden*

hoping that was it

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

At some point bowing to the sensei became bowing to me but I’ll allow it.

[gims]

why is rondo town, porscha?

[Porscha]

why is rondo town, porscha?

uuuuuuh I think the reasons I have provided arrrreee thaaattt:

he isn't exhibiting agenda
he isn't hard defending wolves
he isn't hard bussing wolves
he's big chilling

i've played a lot with rondo and sometimes this stuff is easier to pick up on when he isnt posting a lot. the more he posts, the more convoluted it is to read him tbh

[gims]

You shouldve said "Trust me Bro"

[Porscha]

like his posts are ... what's the word. proportionately inquisitive as a town? he asks questions that should have insightful answers

[Porscha]

You shouldve said "Trust me Bro"

/shrug

just my 200 cents!

[Porscha]

I think I gave good reasons!

[gims]

yes but I'd be more convinced if you said 'trust me bro'

[gims]

I can totally see rondo being town here indeed, I've been striking him for most of the game

if I do trust you and am back at pyxxy/leetic/epig, then IDK but last gameday was really funny if epig and pyxxy are both mafia

[gims]

cause pyxxy refuses to vote LC and starts a CW on epig, thats why

and then they have these weird interactions, lemme find it

[DrWilgy]

While I can acknowledge Sensei, I don't think I could possibly bow, that'd risk derailment.

[gims]

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Can you make the case or remind me where you made it? I only immediately saw your dubz case.

I'm not completely opposed to that wagon since I was making the push on D2. But to me LC and Epig sort of exist in the same space of being "wolfy," but for different reasons and nothing specifically pairing them with Nicole/Trek

"Consensus POE" my big old butt.

[Porscha]

yes but I'd be more convinced if you said 'trust me bro'

hm. hm. *rubs pikachu cheeks*

I'm not sure that would convince anybody else though!

[Epignosis]

ok guys so

whats the verdict on michelle?

Wonderful woman.

yay gottem

Legacy plz

generally stand by the reads from my last few posts before eod

though i agree michelle can go as well

Two very different views here.

Talk to me about why you think so.

All women slap my face, pull my mustache, and call me a horrid name.

I really don't understand them.

I am interested in learning more.

@MacDougall, when you said "wonderful woman" here, I remember that you clarified right away:

Oh I think she maf. Just like her.

Did your opinion of Michelle ever change between this post and the start of Day 2?

Asking for science.

[Porscha]

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Can you make the case or remind me where you made it? I only immediately saw your dubz case.

I'm not completely opposed to that wagon since I was making the push on D2. But to me LC and Epig sort of exist in the same space of being "wolfy," but for different reasons and nothing specifically pairing them with Nicole/Trek

"Consensus POE" my big old butt.

yeah I bet Epi's butt isnt even that big.

[Scotty]

ok guys so

whats the verdict on michelle?

Wonderful woman.

yay gottem

Legacy plz

generally stand by the reads from my last few posts before eod

though i agree michelle can go as well

Two very different views here.

Talk to me about why you think so.

All women slap my face, pull my mustache, and call me a horrid name.

I really don't understand them.

I am interested in learning more.

@MacDougall, when you said "wonderful woman" here, I remember that you clarified right away:

Oh I think she maf. Just like her.

Did your opinion of Michelle ever change between this post and the start of Day 2?

Asking for science.

AKA

Excuse my 40 second chirp, but

Why are you harping on people’s treatment of Michelle? You’re presenting it as a ‘gotcha’ but I’m not seeing the relevance

[Epignosis]

ok guys so

whats the verdict on michelle?

Wonderful woman.

yay gottem

Legacy plz

generally stand by the reads from my last few posts before eod

though i agree michelle can go as well

Two very different views here.

Talk to me about why you think so.

All women slap my face, pull my mustache, and call me a horrid name.

I really don't understand them.

I am interested in learning more.

@MacDougall, when you said "wonderful woman" here, I remember that you clarified right away:

Oh I think she maf. Just like her.

Did your opinion of Michelle ever change between this post and the start of Day 2?

Asking for science.

AKA

Excuse my 40 second chirp, but

Why are you harping on people’s treatment of Michelle? You’re presenting it as a ‘gotcha’ but I’m not seeing the relevance

It's fine.

All great masters of science have to fail (and die) to succeed.

[jess]

which works for me since I don't think pyxxy/leetic are ever paired

agreed with this ftr, i dont think a pyxy/leetic world makes sense in a few different ways

[Epignosis]

Anyway, enough doom and gloom.

Who wants pizza?

I'll have to make a run though...

...I didn't even get pizza. All I got was a lousy coupon.

[jess]

it can be rondo/epig?

i thought epigs posts on the last page wer wolfier than pyxys tbh, mostly the questioning toward nut

[jess]

Anyway, enough doom and gloom.

Who wants pizza?

I'll have to make a run though...

...I didn't even get pizza. All I got was a lousy coupon.

i would like pizza

[GoSpursGo]

I don't think it means anything, but my pizza on N2 had Trek's hand on it

[GoSpursGo]

which works for me since I don't think pyxxy/leetic are ever paired

agreed with this ftr, i dont think a pyxy/leetic world makes sense in a few different ways

gims and jess could you expound on this for those of us who haven't thought that hard about this?

[GoSpursGo]

While I can acknowledge Sensei, I don't think I could possibly bow, that'd risk derailment.

@Golden could we get a ruling on if this makes a valid vote?

[Epignosis]

it can be rondo/epig?

i thought epigs posts on the last page wer wolfier than pyxys tbh, mostly the questioning toward nut

I'm a video game villain. What do you want from me?

Wait...

mostly the questioning toward nut

mostly the questioning toward nut

mostly the questioning toward nut

At least when my robots finally take over the world, I can have one of them programmed to smash my head into the wall repeatedly so I won't have to do it myself!

[Epignosis]

Anyway, enough doom and gloom.

Who wants pizza?

I'll have to make a run though...

...I didn't even get pizza. All I got was a lousy coupon.

i would like pizza

No! It isn't even any good. 7-11 pizza.

[Epignosis]

And the coupon came with a threat!

[GoSpursGo]

Day 4 VC on 10/3/26 at 2030EDT

pyxxy (2) - Tranq, Spurs
Epi (5) - Scotty, pyxxy, nutella, DM, gims

Invalid vote (?) (1) - Wilgy (Epi)

8/15

Leading: Epi
Missing: Rondo and a little less than half

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~32.5h)

[GoSpursGo]

Y'all really gonna make me read Epi's ISO aren't you

[Epignosis]

Y'all really gonna make me read Epi's ISO aren't you

I'd start here if I were you.

[GoSpursGo]

Y'all really gonna make me read Epi's ISO aren't you

I'd start here if I were you.

I am afraid I'm not the target audience for that thesis

[GoSpursGo]

Like, if I'm understanding the thesis, Epi's ISO is basically empty right?

Are we just giving pyxxy a pass for being defended by flipped wolves, and defending flipped wolves?

And Epig what is your read on pyxxy?

[Epignosis]

Y'all really gonna make me read Epi's ISO aren't you

But to save you some time, I have not been participating in a way that I wanted to be "found" as a goody-goody.

I indicated as much:

well. i mean.

idk if epig is scummy. idk how to read epig. he is... different this game. but idk. can someone scumcase him in a way that isnt just POE?

How dare you! I am the scummiest scumbag to ever walk the- !

Ahem. Don't know where that came from. Pardon me.

What I meant to say was that if anybody cared to pay attention, I'm clearly not mafia. I believe I have participated as optimally as I could have given my circumstances, and I am fully satisfied with my performance.

[Epignosis]

Like, if I'm understanding the thesis, Epi's ISO is basically empty right?

Empty is a tad...harsh.

[Duelist Mirage]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

the whole thing can be wrong, as long as the POE is correct we still win this with two hands behind our backs

unfortunately we can't flat out win the game next gameday because DM is still alive and ruining a perfectly competent plan but it is what it is.

Your "perfectly competent plan" either wins the game in boring fashion or cedes control to chance and yeets a random player who may well be someone like you whom we never would have voted otherwise and we learn nothing from it. It doesn't seem worth it when we're doing so well, on top of not being very fun.

And please don't get started on ideas where someone could sacrifice themself to modkill in order out the necessary information for that plan to work. If I were modding and the Jedi outted themself in order to tell us whether their role was active, I would probably just disable their role on top of modkilling them. Nobody should consider doing that.

Now I have had some sake and am going to enjoy one of my last chances at "roller coasters", whatever this strange contraption may be so I do not want to hear about this again. Maybe if this mechanism is enjoyable I can persuade Shogun Ashikaga to move it to the Imperial court after its current owner releases control of it in a month's time.

[GoSpursGo]

Like, if I'm understanding the thesis, Epi's ISO is basically empty right?

Empty is a tad...harsh.

I'm tipsy, so I apologize but I have nothing ot apologize for

[Epignosis]

And Epig what is your read on pyxxy?

I voted there yesterday, but I'd rather others be examined. I unfortunately cannot do much examining. Weekend and all.

I think the civilians are on cruise control at this point. Too much easy success.

My vote yesterday was a shot in the dark. Very little conviction behind it.

I won't vote there today out of principle and evil stubbornness. If people want me out, I am okay with that at this stage.

Just remember how you weren't the target audience.

[Epignosis]

Like, if I'm understanding the thesis, Epi's ISO is basically empty right?

Empty is a tad...harsh.

I'm tipsy, so I apologize but I have nothing ot apologize for

I am deeply envious.

[gims]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

the whole thing can be wrong, as long as the POE is correct we still win this with two hands behind our backs

unfortunately we can't flat out win the game next gameday because DM is still alive and ruining a perfectly competent plan but it is what it is.

Your "perfectly competent plan" either wins the game in boring fashion or cedes control to chance and yeets a random player who may well be someone like you whom we never would have voted otherwise and we learn nothing from it. It doesn't seem worth it when we're doing so well, on top of not being very fun.

And please don't get started on ideas where someone could sacrifice themself to modkill in order out the necessary information for that plan to work. If I were modding and the Jedi outted themself in order to tell us whether their role was active, I would probably just disable their role on top of modkilling them. Nobody should consider doing that.

Now I have had some sake and am going to enjoy one of my last chances at "roller coasters", whatever this strange contraption may be so I do not want to hear about this again. Maybe if this mechanism is enjoyable I can persuade Shogun Ashikaga to move it to the Imperial court after its current owner releases control of it in a month's time.

I do not wish to speak about it further especially to you

I lowkey hope we lose to scum we never found and thats not a good feeling to have

[Duelist Mirage]

I don't think it means anything, but my pizza on N2 had Trek's hand on it

This is not an honorable way of treating the fallen, enemy though they may be.

[Duelist Mirage]

Okay I'm actually going to stop looking at this for the night, the can of Blue Hawaiian I smuggled into the park was supposed to make me feel good but now I don't at all

[Porscha]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

the whole thing can be wrong, as long as the POE is correct we still win this with two hands behind our backs

unfortunately we can't flat out win the game next gameday because DM is still alive and ruining a perfectly competent plan but it is what it is.

Your "perfectly competent plan" either wins the game in boring fashion or cedes control to chance and yeets a random player who may well be someone like you whom we never would have voted otherwise and we learn nothing from it. It doesn't seem worth it when we're doing so well, on top of not being very fun.

And please don't get started on ideas where someone could sacrifice themself to modkill in order out the necessary information for that plan to work. If I were modding and the Jedi outted themself in order to tell us whether their role was active, I would probably just disable their role on top of modkilling them. Nobody should consider doing that.

Now I have had some sake and am going to enjoy one of my last chances at "roller coasters", whatever this strange contraption may be so I do not want to hear about this again. Maybe if this mechanism is enjoyable I can persuade Shogun Ashikaga to move it to the Imperial court after its current owner releases control of it in a month's time.

drinking and then going on a roller coaster sounds like the fast track to vomming

[GoSpursGo]

it can be rondo/epig?

I hate to see all that work put into something destined to be a colossal failure.

the whole thing can be wrong, as long as the POE is correct we still win this with two hands behind our backs

unfortunately we can't flat out win the game next gameday because DM is still alive and ruining a perfectly competent plan but it is what it is.

Your "perfectly competent plan" either wins the game in boring fashion or cedes control to chance and yeets a random player who may well be someone like you whom we never would have voted otherwise and we learn nothing from it. It doesn't seem worth it when we're doing so well, on top of not being very fun.

And please don't get started on ideas where someone could sacrifice themself to modkill in order out the necessary information for that plan to work. If I were modding and the Jedi outted themself in order to tell us whether their role was active, I would probably just disable their role on top of modkilling them. Nobody should consider doing that.

Now I have had some sake and am going to enjoy one of my last chances at "roller coasters", whatever this strange contraption may be so I do not want to hear about this again. Maybe if this mechanism is enjoyable I can persuade Shogun Ashikaga to move it to the Imperial court after its current owner releases control of it in a month's time.

I do not wish to speak about it further especially to you

I lowkey hope we lose to scum we never found and thats not a good feeling to have

gims, as someone who thinks your idea has merit and should be discussed if we catch scum today, that's a pretty toxic thing to say, regardless of alignment.

Take a break. You did some good digging today that I'll take a look at.

[gims]

I apologise for the toxicity

I'll try to respond to the pyxxy/leetic world not really making sense in a bit

[nutella]

ok FINE i get it epi

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

[gims]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine Mainly because I don't think it's usually a good idea to go for a slanker at this stage in the game. I don't believe anyone's responded to me as to whether the LC wagon is for any reason besides them not posting?

this and the rest of leetic's positioning wrt pyxxy feels unlikely if the team is leetic/pyxxy/LC

basically leetic started going at pyxxy and fighting off LC's momentum on the basis of LC's activity being NAI for him and not being a good thing to punish a slanker for slanking. he then kept going against pyxxy after LC's flip based off incorrectly saying pyxxy's posting about LC felt like TMI that LC was scum based off lack of activity (which as we all agreed was never pyxxy's position imo)

I find it unlikely that leetic would fight off LC's wagon by pushing another team mate, and then still using LC's scum flip to keep pushing pyxxy with it. that might make sense if leetic is scum and pyxxy is town, but as s^s that sounds excessive.

I also think epig/pyxxy might be an unlikely world, as pyxxy was fighting off LC/pyxxy wagons by starting a new CW on epig, but that looks thinner now.