gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am
should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president
I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand
Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.
If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am
I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.
thats the only thing keeping us from doing it
its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it
Quit bloody well saying that, you are still just wrong. You could very well just turn the day into what just happened, a random flip we learn nothing from.
I'm actually kind of hoping that you're a wolf with the way you're acting this game, it's really painful to experience how cold you've been all game and I don't recognize that attitude coming from you
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am
I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.
thats the only thing keeping us from doing it
its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it
Quit bloody well saying that, you are still just wrong. You could very well just turn the day into what just happened, a random flip we learn nothing from.
I'm actually kind of hoping that you're a wolf with the way you're acting this game, it's really painful to experience how cold you've been all game and I don't recognize that attitude coming from you
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am
should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president
I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand
Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.
If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.
Also a good point.
But it’s a bizarre use of the ability if it wasn’t pyxxy
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am
I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.
thats the only thing keeping us from doing it
its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it
Quit bloody well saying that, you are still just wrong. You could very well just turn the day into what just happened, a random flip we learn nothing from.
I'm actually kind of hoping that you're a wolf with the way you're acting this game, it's really painful to experience how cold you've been all game and I don't recognize that attitude coming from you
You said I was angleshooting
You talk about seppuku
You talk about modkills
Its charged af and i dont care for it. We can just win and youre being alarmist and apocalyptical. And youre not thinking. Its arrogance. Youre not thinking at all.
gotta give me something strong
gotta make sure its your best
But anyway Im back at not even talking abt it with you. I told you id vote with you If you agreed to do it. Youre against even entertaining it so shrugs.
gotta give me something strong
gotta make sure its your best
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:28 am
But your point on leetic is a good one, unless we are just blind on scotty
scotty is def capable of posting as well as he has this game as mafia fwiw, i dont really want to seriously consider him til we have to but yeah he could be the deep one
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am
should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president
I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand
Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.
If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.
Also a good point.
But it’s a bizarre use of the ability if it wasn’t pyxxy
i havent read all the roles are we sure there isnt something else that can do it
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am
should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president
I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand
Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.
If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.
Also a good point.
But it’s a bizarre use of the ability if it wasn’t pyxxy
i havent read all the roles are we sure there isnt something else that can do it
I don't think there is any other ability that explains this outcome. There is a town athlete, but obviously in that case leetic would have gone over not epi.
I think the Parrot only replicates a night ability.
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am
ok do we have town nutella now?
I still don’t see Nutella as scum in basically any world, but that kind of catchup is pretty easy to fake if scum. So if someone was entertaining a scum Nutella universe, I would not expect this exchange to change their opinion
By the way, Wilgy is no longer the role I thought he was. And he immediately shoots to the top of my scum list based on how he handled Epi Day 2 and Day 3.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
I saw DM posited a theory for IC man possibly targeting their own Trekkie via action switching but that role does not block per se, so the fact that we had 1 silence on tranq, and Michelle targeted tranq, means either both targeted tranq, or Michelle was switched off tranq, blocking {someone else} and tranq was outright targeted by Trekkie.
Either possibility makes me want to just townclwar Tranq (yes I know there are some possibilities that would preclude this but Occam’s razor and all that)
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:48 am
Off the top of my head, my legacy is something like this. I hear what gims is saying about wilgy, and others have said he can be a hard-busser in the past, so I've moved him out of the never rescind for now. But still not my first though
Never rescind town unless they're alive at mylo/lylo
nutella
gims
Tranq
Very, very likely town
Scotty
dubz
Wilgy
Probably town
DM
Mac
pyxxy
POE:
Rondo
Porscha
leetic
jess
Assuming the NK goes through we are at 10/2 tomorrow. Still a good spot for sure
flashbanged by the reads list of agony once again
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:28 am
But your point on leetic is a good one, unless we are just blind on scotty
scotty is def capable of posting as well as he has this game as mafia fwiw, i dont really want to seriously consider him til we have to but yeah he could be the deep one
nah you can have my +1 with that take. i've just been holding it
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am
ok do we have town nutella now?
I still don’t see Nutella as scum in basically any world, but that kind of catchup is pretty easy to fake if scum. So if someone was entertaining a scum Nutella universe, I would not expect this exchange to change their opinion
to be fair, nutella was towny even in the mess of catch up where there was tvt violence. she was a t being violenced by t's. lol
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:48 am
Off the top of my head, my legacy is something like this. I hear what gims is saying about wilgy, and others have said he can be a hard-busser in the past, so I've moved him out of the never rescind for now. But still not my first though
Never rescind town unless they're alive at mylo/lylo
nutella
gims
Tranq
Very, very likely town
Scotty
dubz
Wilgy
Probably town
DM
Mac
pyxxy
POE:
Rondo
Porscha
leetic
jess
Assuming the NK goes through we are at 10/2 tomorrow. Still a good spot for sure
flashbanged by the reads list of agony once again
Meh. As I said I put little updated thought into it.
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am
ok do we have town nutella now?
I still don’t see Nutella as scum in basically any world, but that kind of catchup is pretty easy to fake if scum. So if someone was entertaining a scum Nutella universe, I would not expect this exchange to change their opinion
to be fair, nutella was towny even in the mess of catch up where there was tvt violence. she was a t being violenced by t's. lol
Sure. I’ve been squarely in the t!nutella camp, but if you want to clarify that nuance that’s fine
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm
Hi it’s me again
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
This just isn’t how w!dubz plays in my experience, she isn’t a slanking wolf. Doesn’t mean she could be different now but that’s why she’s pretty high in my town reads.
But I can understand that her ISO looks pretty scummy without that context
I thought dubz' defense on nutella last gameday, against DM, was pretty scummy
not that it was incorrect. its probably correct. but it felt like TMI. it felt like dubz has town!nutella as a given. only townies would get paranoid about her/poking her at that stage in the game. for wolves, its easy to just shrug that slot as town and focus on whatever is incorrect in POE.
gotta give me something strong
gotta make sure its your best
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm
Hi it’s me again
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
How about this:
We ask BOTH Redirectors to target Dubz and redirect the action to DrWilgy.
We ask Parrot to target DrWilgy and use their target on Dubz.
If not possible due to double targetting, pick the other one.
If both of them are mafia, this could make one of them kill the other one. Could this work?
And we ask Doctor and Watcher to target Tranq in case mafia isn't fond of this plan
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm
Hi it’s me again
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
How about this:
We ask BOTH Redirectors to target Dubz and redirect the action to DrWilgy.
We ask Parrot to target DrWilgy and use their target on Dubz.
If not possible due to double targetting, pick the other one.
If both of them are mafia, this could make one of them kill the other one. Could this work?
And we ask Doctor and Watcher to target Tranq in case mafia isn't fond of this plan
I mean you could try, but that is perhaps asking a lot for this group
For all the world’s a box, and all the men and women merely un-herdable cats
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm
Hi it’s me again
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
This just isn’t how w!dubz plays in my experience, she isn’t a slanking wolf. Doesn’t mean she could be different now but that’s why she’s pretty high in my town reads.
But I can understand that her ISO looks pretty scummy without that context
Do you have more experience with how much of a busser w!Dubz is?
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am
NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO
Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:21 pm
That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?
What exactly is the "nuance" here?
Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown
Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?
BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.
Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.
"Because his alignment is unknown."
Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.
[VOTE:
duelist] aubergine
This is a good post
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am
Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.
LC is currently top TR.
Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.
Sukide wa arimasen
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am
Nicole's ISO is very meh.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am
What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:
jess wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:17 pm
sorry i wont really be available to play until tomorrow (real-life time). the mafia better start quaking in their boots bcuz once im free it's gonna be sooooo over for them
Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around
Disagree, that kind of statement is +town
Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.
I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am
Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.
I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.
Now departing. Please clear the doors.
Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am
Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.
[VOTE:
Trekkie] aubergine
Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.
Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.
Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.
If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.
Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)
Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.
At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.
Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest
@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?
And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am
NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO
Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:
Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown
Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?
BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.
Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.
"Because his alignment is unknown."
Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.
[VOTE:
duelist] aubergine
This is a good post
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am
Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.
LC is currently top TR.
Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.
Sukide wa arimasen
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am
Nicole's ISO is very meh.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am
What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:
jess wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:17 pm
sorry i wont really be available to play until tomorrow (real-life time). the mafia better start quaking in their boots bcuz once im free it's gonna be sooooo over for them
Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around
Disagree, that kind of statement is +town
Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.
I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am
Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.
I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.
Now departing. Please clear the doors.
Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am
Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.
[VOTE:
Trekkie] aubergine
Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.
Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.
Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.
If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.
Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)
Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.
At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.
Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest
@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?
And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.
This entire post still stands, then I figured he had info on Epi, hence the cryptic way he’s been nosediving there. But alas, that is not the case. Additionally, Epi hinting and Nutella attempting to veto that based on info (regardless of Nutella’s alignment) pulled me from thinking Epi was the right vote.
Leetic wasn’t really in my top of my POE, actually. I don’t even remember talking about him, did i? If I had an order he would have been maybe 5th or 6th. I voted there because I was moving with the flow and I don’t have a great reason to town read him, but don’t have a strong reason to scum read him either.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm
Hi it’s me again
I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:
D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)
There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
This just isn’t how w!dubz plays in my experience, she isn’t a slanking wolf. Doesn’t mean she could be different now but that’s why she’s pretty high in my town reads.
But I can understand that her ISO looks pretty scummy without that context
Do you have more experience with how much of a busser w!Dubz is?
I don't tbh. But I've only ever been completely crushed by w!dubz teams and she won both games where I was against her in a sweep, so she never needed to seriously consider bussing her teammates.
I get the sense that she isn't a "never-busser," but I don't think it's her preferred strategy. I previously said that I don't think she would wake up on day 2 after losing a packmate and immediately bus another packmate, and I *think* that's probably true... but of course I can't account for discussions in wolfchat. Maybe LC was tilting after losing Nicole and was saying he was checking out and to bus him. idk.
