Who Framed Roger Rabbit? [Day 10]

[Tangrowth]

Sorry folks for so many posts in a row, but I'm really starting to consider the possibility that MM and BF could both be bad, and that would explain why BF was so readily willing to vote first for Aces, knowing that it would make him look good.

I'm just brainstorming all my thoughts here. Obviously too many names are being thrown around for all or even some of them to be bad. I need to think on this. And I do have time this evening so I'll finally get to finishing my thread re-read, this time with D2 panned out completely.

[juliets]

Sorry folks for so many posts in a row, but I'm really starting to consider the possibility that MM and BF could both be bad, and that would explain why BF was so readily willing to vote first for Aces, knowing that it would make him look good.

I'm just brainstorming all my thoughts here. Obviously too many names are being thrown around for all or even some of them to be bad. I need to think on this. And I do have time this evening so I'll finally get to finishing my thread re-read, this time with D2 panned out completely.

MP, this would mean BF threw Aces under the bus. Is that something you've seen him do in past games? Do you think Aces would agree to go down the 1st night? I'm not trying to discount your brainstorming I just want to hear your thoughts on those questions.

[Tangrowth]

Sorry folks for so many posts in a row, but I'm really starting to consider the possibility that MM and BF could both be bad, and that would explain why BF was so readily willing to vote first for Aces, knowing that it would make him look good.

I'm just brainstorming all my thoughts here. Obviously too many names are being thrown around for all or even some of them to be bad. I need to think on this. And I do have time this evening so I'll finally get to finishing my thread re-read, this time with D2 panned out completely.

MP, this would mean BF threw Aces under the bus. Is that something you've seen him do in past games? Do you think Aces would agree to go down the 1st night? I'm not trying to discount your brainstorming I just want to hear your thoughts on those questions.

See, I don't know about that. I would presume you or others would know BF's game more than I would, so I'd ask the same question to others. I asked Golden and he seemed skeptical. That's what was holding me back on suspecting BF really hard.

But here's the thing: If MM is bad, then BF throwing Aces under the bus was a little sacrifice, since both of the main vote receivers were bad. If they're both bad, then it makes BF look good for a faulty reason since it didn't matter who he voted.

As to Aces, I don't know, but seeing his aggressive as hell play in DN and here, and since I don't know his playstyle very well, I'm considering every possibility.

It's difficult playing a game with a bunch of folks I haven't played with in years, but at the same time it allows for considering all of the possibilities more easily.

[Tangrowth]

I don't know. I'm curious what everyone else is thinking too because I feel like there are many options to pursue after the last lynch, and too many players are looking bad to me right now. I'm having trouble sorting through it all, but I still stand by my assessment that Canuck, Sophie, BF, and juliets are where I'm most looking at the moment. Another lynch will certainly be illuminating.

I'll BBL to re-read and to hear what other folks are thinking.

[juliets]

Yes, I can understand it would be difficult after a couple of years. BF doesn't play with us regularly anymore so I have no take on his game. I don't think I've played with him as a baddie and if I have, I've totally forgotten it. I want to give him the botd for a very non-game reason and that is this is his first game with us in a long while (unless I missed one where he played).

Aces has been very quiet in the games he's played with us recently until Death Note. He came out very aggressive in that game just like this one. As someone mentioned before, we don't know if he is bad or good in that game because he was night killed. I need to look back at the rules and see if deadies win with their team (or at least the bad deadies) because I would think that would make a difference.

I do think the first lynch was a civ switch, maybe with vote manips, and the second lynch was a baddie change though as i mentioned last night I don't suspect it was you. Your theories seem sound, I just need to play with them some more to see if I can see the other side of the coin.

[Marmot]

Also...what about MM? I know that he is looked at as civ now because of the Day 1 Aces lynch, but does this really clear him?

Interesting that you say this - I was going to respond to BF's comment about my "pushing" an MM lynch with this sentiment as if MM were confirmed Civ, when all the lynch did was prove to be confusing as hell (and advantageous, but still confusing). It proved nothing of MM's alignment as far as I can see, and talk of him has just dropped off, which makes me wary.

I totally agree! I am considering a vote for him actually. I mean, there are others I suspect, but I am just not sure enough on any of them.

Anybody who follows this is getting the big ol' from me. Not because of a No U, but I expect you all to come up with something more tangible then that for a reason to vote someone. Especially you Eloh. You said you think LC could be bad, but you voted me because I'm not a confirmed civ?

Also...what about MM? I know that he is looked at as civ now because of the Day 1 Aces lynch, but does this really clear him?

Interesting that you say this - I was going to respond to BF's comment about my "pushing" an MM lynch with this sentiment as if MM were confirmed Civ, when all the lynch did was prove to be confusing as hell (and advantageous, but still confusing). It proved nothing of MM's alignment as far as I can see, and talk of him has just dropped off, which makes me wary.

I totally agree! I am considering a vote for him actually. I mean, there are others I suspect, but I am just not sure enough on any of them.

Why are you considering MM? I can't recall.

I am not, personally, even though I will admit I was rightfully bothered by his lack of contribution, jokey posts, and mostly his self-vote, but I don't know that I really see much evidence for him being bad at the moment given the way the lynch went down.

Oh that's right, I've done jack-shit this game. llama is your man for that profile.

Honestly, I still see MM as a possible place to vote. I voted for him D1 because he didn't contribute and just joked around and early voted and didn't care if he got lynched. Then he didn't die and he basically fell of the map. Why didn't he die? I have theories where he could be bad or good. The longer he goes without posting the more I suspect him today too.

You should have read the post where I said that I wouldn't be around much that day. If you were genuinely reading my posts (enough to comment that I've made a lot of joking posts), then you ought to have noticed.

Im on my boyfriends house with my phone. Lying in bed cause picked up a fever
Anyways, im on and off, trying to read, catch up, havung my medicine and teas

Get well soon

I agree with MM could still be bad.

You always think I'm bad.

And finally caught up.



Yo MP, what do you think of llama?

[Black Rock]

I personally have not thought about or assessed Llama at all this game.

[Tangrowth]

MM, good question, I don't really have a read on Llama at this time. What do you make of him? Linki: Yeah, pretty much what BR said.

In fact, instead of re-reading, I intend to go back and look through players' posts individually, because I remember Zomba and BR (I think?) doing that yesterday and strikes me as more productive at the moment. Will do that later today.

Yes, I can understand it would be difficult after a couple of years. BF doesn't play with us regularly anymore so I have no take on his game. I don't think I've played with him as a baddie and if I have, I've totally forgotten it. I want to give him the botd for a very non-game reason and that is this is his first game with us in a long while (unless I missed one where he played).

Aces has been very quiet in the games he's played with us recently until Death Note. He came out very aggressive in that game just like this one. As someone mentioned before, we don't know if he is bad or good in that game because he was night killed. I need to look back at the rules and see if deadies win with their team (or at least the bad deadies) because I would think that would make a difference.

I do think the first lynch was a civ switch, maybe with vote manips, and the second lynch was a baddie change though as i mentioned last night I don't suspect it was you. Your theories seem sound, I just need to play with them some more to see if I can see the other side of the coin.

Duly noted, juliets. I understand this (bolded and underlined), but it obviously has no effect on his alignment, so if anyone is intending on extending this, then it will inevitably get the from me.

I mentioned that re: Aces. Obviously I know his alignment in that game and I said it was inevitably influencing my viewpoint, but I'm trying not to let it. I felt it was hard to read Aces in the moment because his aggressiveness was throwing me off and I couldn't tell whether any of his behavior made him reckless civilian or reckless baddie. And in Death Note, I have allowed dead players to win so long as their win condition is satisfied.

Yeah, I need to sort through all of this myself. I know there's a connection to be made to Aces and I'm trying to figure it out. I still stand by those four I've mentioned for now.

Okay, now BBL for real. Stupid addictive mafia. :P

[juliets]

I won't extend anyone the botd for non game related reasons I just mentioned it because it is tempting with more than just BF. Doesn't work though in mafia, I have to be willing to vote anyone.

[Marmot]

I have not played with BF, Golden, rabbit, or Sophie before. Comparatively, I don't read any of them as bad right now (including Golden pre-lynch), though Sophie I don't have a read on at all.

[bea]

Ok - so that Golden lynch was out of no where! Kinda low to kick a man when he was ll cursed and junk.

MP - fwiw - I read your reactions as genuine. I know you are not one to aggressively defend teammates and I'm sorry I didn't at a least chime in and say that yesterday when I did post. I'm not gonna lie that I'm way out of practice at speed games - I keep thinking I have more time than I do. I'm also not as used to having to follow those minor feelings I get at the beginning of the game aggressively.

That said, I've had a hard time getting minor feels about anyone. I have too many "could be civ" and not enough "they give me the heebies outside of the normal ways I have the heebie jeebies about them."

It's super lame. I know. I feel super lame.

[blindfaeth]

Sophie, I was the first one right off the bat to say I suspect a baddie lynch switch. Why are you neglecting that information? BF is NOT the only one saying the baddies did it; I don't understand how you received that impression.

To answer your question though, Sophie, I have absolutely no idea how I survived. I was definitely posting under the impression I was a dead man, and I think my posts reflect that.

And to give you a question, Sophie, why the heck did you vote for me? You said you didn't have time to elaborate before, but you don't know either. You didn't appear to be leaning that way AT ALL, and you still haven't satisfactorily explained it, IMO. Seriously, I went back and skimmed through your posts and your vote for me was definitely opportunistic.

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BF, I understand and agree that a civilian did not switch the lynch. That doesn't make any sense to me. You seemed to imply something else in your posts, however, or maybe I'm wrong. Did you?

Also, why would you say Golden's change was due to Jessica? I understand your point, but there are two problems with that, from my perspective:
1) From what I recall, Golden did not backpedal off of anyone he suspected yesterday completely. Wouldn't he have if the reason for his change of heart was due to Jessica?
2) Why would you point this out in thread, if it were true? Wouldn't it possibly help the baddies narrow down who Jessica is?

I will admit I also am confounded by Golden's change of heart, especially since I and others asked him, and he sort of vaguely answered it. To you and others who know him better, was this kind of behavior normal for him? It's not like he completely shifted his thoughts, but reevaluated his suspects and shuffled them around. Yet rabbit said he gets tunnel vision. So is this characteristic or not?

And what are you trying to say by "this" is easier to pull off? I don't understand. Are you trying to implicate me without talking about me directly? If you think I've faked this, come out and say it.

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Canuck, you literally said nothing about me except what was in your post; can you not see how insanely opportunistic that was?

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juliets, I'm really sorry if you felt like I was threatening you or anyone else or that I was mad at you in particular. Yes, I did have my feelings hurt, and it's far from being just your fault -- I just was absolutely floored that only a few players who actually suspected me this game (Golden, BF, rabbit, mainly, in that order of most explanation to least of the three) have elaborated on why they think so, but that so many others seem to just hop onto Golden's case against me when I defended against it IMO really well (which I felt Golden even recognized, since he said I sounded civilian, even if it appeared the evidence looked bad for me).

Here's the problem, as I've said over and over, and that's that the evidence is wrong, because I would never openly issue a non-opinion on a teammate and steer the thread singlehandedly at such a critical point in the game. That would be suicidal. And now that Golden was lynched instead of me, and he had no votes, I'm certain this was a baddie lynch switch designed to make me look bad. But I swear it wasn't me.

And I just got really frustrated that I kept asking people to actually elaborate on why they saw me as bad but I didn't really get much out of people, and I kept getting ignored. Not just once but multiple times. (Again, a few players didn't ignore me, but you, Sophie, and Canuck voted for me practically out of nowhere).

I hope that makes sense. It doesn't excuse my behavior for getting really mad, so I really apologize to you and everyone else for that. Sorry folks. I should have counted to five. I just figured I was going to die and had very limited time to get all my thoughts out, and I was super frustrated that I'd been railroaded.

Now I never got to finish my re-read yesterday, but I think this past lynch illuminates a lot of possible avenues for catching baddies tomorrow. I will pursue these with what free time I get today and tomorrow.

And Epi, I just had to read your host post a second time. Too funny.

No I wasn't implying anything, yes I think you faked it, no it wasn't characteristic of golden. And don't give me that "why would you post it to the thread" bs. Baddies have btsc and have multiple people that can all think. You really don't think they couldn't deduce this possibility on their own? Please.

[bea]

My submission for the sexiest song. I maintain that the subtly dirty lyrics and the blaring horns at just the right points is far more sexy than anything that's been made since.

[fingersplints]

I do not necessarily think that there is the existence of a role that splints is talking about, unless I suppose that role is MM, and the baddies knew it would get the second highest vote getter lynched (Aces), and they didn't care as much since not many players would believe the top two vote receivers were baddie.

Actually, thinking on this, this is a third possibility, but IMO still the most unlikely.

I've seen D1 lynches with two baddies taking the blunt of the heat before, and the one not lynched getting cleared for some time. Pretty rare though.

I'm not saying it's definite. I'm just putting another idea out there. It's all speculative anyways.

I know it wasnt me you asked, but I've felt ok about llama this game.

[Marmot]

Sexiest song? Gotta be David Bowie and Freddie Mercury.

[bea]

BF - so you think MP switched the lynch or is definately on the team that did to save him? You aren't seeing a set up here?

Splintsy out side of me - who would you be looking at today? I know why you'd be looking at me. Honestly, if I didn't know my role, I'd be looking at me too.
What do you make of Cannuck/Sophie/Elo's votes - do you think they were as "lack of reasoningy" as MP has painted them? Do you think MP is trying to paint a poor picture of their votes on purpose? Do you think he's just super sketched out because he really doesn't know how the lynch turned and is paranoid?

[juliets]

I hate when people take songs and attach literal pictures to match the song lyrics but this is the only recording out there of Tanglewood Tree. These lyrics are not supposed to be literal. This is the closest i do to sexy but it's is my favorite song about love.

[Tangrowth]

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No I wasn't implying anything, yes I think you faked it, no it wasn't characteristic of golden. And don't give me that "why would you post it to the thread" bs. Baddies have btsc and have multiple people that can all think. You really don't think they couldn't deduce this possibility on their own? Please.

Duly noted, re: implications, thanks.

If you think I faked it, then I don't know what else to say to that. Obviously you're entitled to that opinion, but you're wrong.

It wasn't characteristic of Golden to change his mind as he did? Interesting. I don't know what to make of that then.

You seriously think that's BS? Just because a baddie team has BTS doesn't mean they use it to their full potential. Sure, sometimes they do. But as a host of many games I've seen BTS opportunities squandered.

[Tangrowth]

Also, I was thinking about the lynch some more, and IIRC, there was at least one player around at the time who missed the vote. I had 5 votes and rabbit had 4. Anyone think it's possible that a baddie lynch switch was used on rabbit's behalf? I'm not sure I believe that myself, but thought I'd throw it out there since I had thought of it.

[Tangrowth]

As for my submission:

[Epignosis]

You people have the weirdest sense of "sexy." Songs about death, poverty, and arson.

Can't imagine any of you in bed.

Well, one of you I can.

[bea]

You people have the weirdest sense of "sexy." Songs about death, poverty, and arson.

Can't imagine any of you in bed.

Well, one of you I can.

it's llama isn't it? You can fess up....we are a supportive group.....

[Sophie]

[ytubehd] [/ytubehd]

Well, it wontt let me put the video (im on my phone, could someone put it for me, please??) But that link right there is the sexiest song ever i promise

[Sophie]

So mp are u saying that baddies wasted one of their supposed lynch saves in a civvie to make you look bad?
Seriously?

[bea]

Also, I was thinking about the lynch some more, and IIRC, there was at least one player around at the time who missed the vote. I had 5 votes and rabbit had 4. Anyone think it's possible that a baddie lynch switch was used on rabbit's behalf? I'm not sure I believe that myself, but thought I'd throw it out there since I had thought of it.

Who are you thinking of MP?

IDK if it was used on wabbit's behalf. From what I remember of him bts -he wouldn't want the attention drawn to himself especially if he was down a vote. Close is close, but IDK if he'd risk making the switch or telling teammates bts to do so. Could wabbit be bad and they did it w/o talking to him? Sure. I just don't really get the baddie vibe from wabbit yet. TBH, I'm more inclined it was a 3 birds one stone sort of gig. Makes both you and wabbit look bad, gets rid of Civ Golden. That's a baddie win, win win right there.

[Tangrowth]

So mp are u saying that baddies wasted one of their supposed lynch saves in a civvie to make you look bad?
Seriously?

Why not? I've done it before, and it worked. Causes chaos, gets attention off baddies for not only one lynch (the switch) but also the follow-up (the person set up).

And you are neglecting many things:
1) I asked you to elaborate MULTIPLE TIMES as to why you think I'm bad. You still have not explained it. So? What's the deal?
2) I just suggested an alternate theory right above that perhaps they were saving rabbit?

I'm at least throwing out theories. I don't know why I survived.

[Tangrowth]

Also, I was thinking about the lynch some more, and IIRC, there was at least one player around at the time who missed the vote. I had 5 votes and rabbit had 4. Anyone think it's possible that a baddie lynch switch was used on rabbit's behalf? I'm not sure I believe that myself, but thought I'd throw it out there since I had thought of it.

Who are you thinking of MP?

IDK if it was used on wabbit's behalf. From what I remember of him bts -he wouldn't want the attention drawn to himself especially if he was down a vote. Close is close, but IDK if he'd risk making the switch or telling teammates bts to do so. Could wabbit be bad and they did it w/o talking to him? Sure. I just don't really get the baddie vibe from wabbit yet. TBH, I'm more inclined it was a 3 birds one stone sort of gig. Makes both you and wabbit look bad, gets rid of Civ Golden. That's a baddie win, win win right there.

Didn't Bass and Black Rock miss the vote?

I don't know either. Duly noted re: your perception of his possible behavior though.

I'm not really getting a baddie vibe from rabbit either, myself, FWIW.

Interesting theory on the 3 birds, 1 stone. That's stronger than the theory just about setting me up. I think that's very plausible.

[Sophie]

And, tbh, i didnt have time to answer whatever you asked mp, i was sick, barely here, and on my phone, i literally didnt even have time to explain.
But i do think your anger overeaction was faked cause you knew your baddie teammates were gonna switch the lynch to save u. I do think its all fake

[Tangrowth]

Fair enough, Sophie, but that doesn't explain why you suspected me enough in the first place to vote for me with absolutely NO mention of why you thought I was bad BEFORE THE LYNCH ended.

Ugh. So frustrating.

[Sophie]

So mp are u saying that baddies wasted one of their supposed lynch saves in a civvie to make you look bad?
Seriously?

Why not? I've done it before, and it worked. Causes chaos, gets attention off baddies for not only one lynch (the switch) but also the follow-up (the person set up).

And you are neglecting many things:
1) I asked you to elaborate MULTIPLE TIMES as to why you think I'm bad. You still have not explained it. So? What's the deal?
2) I just suggested an alternate theory right above that perhaps they were saving rabbit?

I'm at least throwing out theories. I don't know why I survived.

multiple times? I wasnt even here


But isnt the most obvious explanation almost always the truth? Baddies wasting their powers to make u look bad? Really???

[Tangrowth]

Seriously, I've gone through every single one of your posts and you never even mentioned why I got your vote. WTF?

[Tangrowth]

Im votin mp, no time to ellaborate rn, but imo theres still smthing fishy there

Elaborate.

[Tangrowth]

I will not sit here and continue to be suspected even still after I've asked you multiple times why I even received your vote. How is that fair to me? Put yourself in my shoes.

Maybe from now on I'll just vote and say "I'll elaborate later" and never actually say, even if my suspect almost died because of it.

[Tangrowth]

I'm done with this game for now. Even though I have spring break next week, I've wasted so much time asking the players who voted for me over and over again to actually explain why they voted for me. This is a ridiculous exercise. I need to actually be productive. See you folks tomorrow.

[juliets]

I'm done with this game for now. Even though I have spring break next week, I've wasted so much time asking the players who voted for me over and over again to actually explain why they voted for me. This is a ridiculous exercise. I need to actually be productive. See you folks tomorrow.

I explained to the best of my ability mp.

[Canucklehead]

Hi, everyone! I'm Captain Funtimes, popping in to remind everyone that this a game! Played for fun! In which people try to deceive and kill each other! But it's not personal! No one "owes" anybody anything. "Fairness" is a very tenuous concept here. It's all jut for funsies!
I understand you're upset, MP, but that fact that you want answers for why people suspected you does not mean you are owed them, and if you're unwilling to accept the answers you are given, then that's on you, my friend.

I empathize with your frustration, I honestly do, but the moral outrage is a little intense.

Fwiw, I voted you (as I've mentioned) because I was out of time and had no better options o my own, and the things that bf had posted from Golden earlier resonated for me. That's it . I'm sorry, truly, that you feel that was opportunistic or terrible or lame or any of those things, but that doesn't change that it was, in fact, my reason.

I hope your mini-breather gives you time to cool off and come back and have fun again and help us get to the bottom of what happened in your lynch. if you are civ, we need your over-analytical self working with us, not lashing out at us.

[Sophie]

Lol, mp, i was the secobd one to vote for you, i have said before i wad pinged by you afteraces death, goldebs and bfs cases seemed geniune to me, and you were my main suspect. You acted like if i lynched you: 3 people voted for u after me. And i dont owe you that many explanations, you are talkung as if you were a confirmed civ when you are far from that. Your saving and golden lynching was very fishy

[bea]

sophie - what do you think of my 2 or 3 birds one stone theory?

As a baddie, I would srrsly think about switching a lynch that was a civ going down to get rid of a more threatening civ - and make the civ that was already going down look even worse in the process. If wabbit is a civ too (and I've seen nothing yet from him to make me think he isn't) the advantage to doing it is 3 times as great.

It gives the baddie team the last cycle - the next cycle (because everone's talking about MP) - and if MP flips civ then the next cycle (because everyone's talking about wabbit now) - time to hide.

If I were a baddie and the idea came up in bts.....I'd think long and hard about doing it. Even if it was the team's only switch - Could knock out three baddies quick as you can blink. Wouldn't you think of doing it if the opportunity presented itself?

[bea]

sophie - what do you think of my 2 or 3 birds one stone theory?

As a baddie, I would srrsly think about switching a lynch that was a civ going down to get rid of a more threatening civ - and make the civ that was already going down look even worse in the process. If wabbit is a civ too (and I've seen nothing yet from him to make me think he isn't) the advantage to doing it is 3 times as great.

It gives the baddie team the last cycle - the next cycle (because everone's talking about MP) - and if MP flips civ then the next cycle (because everyone's talking about wabbit now) - time to hide.

If I were a baddie and the idea came up in bts.....I'd think long and hard about doing it. Even if it was the team's only switch - Could knock out three baddies quick as you can blink. Wouldn't you think of doing it if the opportunity presented itself?

lol up there.


ebwop - could knock out three civs quick as you can blink.

omg. you guys - I think the beer is kicking in! happy birthday diggz!!!

[juliets]

bea I thin your idea has merit (you didn't ask me but I thought i'd tell you). The question is who would think up such a nefarious scheme especially since Epi is not playing. Got any ideas?

[juliets]

EBwop; thin = think

[Elohcin]

I wonder... If Goldens apparent overnight switch in thinking was because Jessica rabbit found him. Something to think about.

BF, can you explain what you are talking about here? I mean, I know about Jessica's role, but I don't know how that would relate to the lynch.

Also...what about MM? I know that he is looked at as civ now because of the Day 1 Aces lynch, but does this really clear him?

Interesting that you say this - I was going to respond to BF's comment about my "pushing" an MM lynch with this sentiment as if MM were confirmed Civ, when all the lynch did was prove to be confusing as hell (and advantageous, but still confusing). It proved nothing of MM's alignment as far as I can see, and talk of him has just dropped off, which makes me wary.

I totally agree! I am considering a vote for him actually. I mean, there are others I suspect, but I am just not sure enough on any of them.

Anybody who follows this is getting the big ol' from me. Not because of a No U, but I expect you all to come up with something more tangible then that for a reason to vote someone. Especially you Eloh. You said you think LC could be bad, but you voted me because I'm not a confirmed civ?

You are wrong about my reason for voting you. And if you read my posts, you would know that.

[Elohcin]

My submission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPoHgKcqag

[Sophie]

sophie - what do you think of my 2 or 3 birds one stone theory?

As a baddie, I would srrsly think about switching a lynch that was a civ going down to get rid of a more threatening civ - and make the civ that was already going down look even worse in the process. If wabbit is a civ too (and I've seen nothing yet from him to make me think he isn't) the advantage to doing it is 3 times as great.

It gives the baddie team the last cycle - the next cycle (because everone's talking about MP) - and if MP flips civ then the next cycle (because everyone's talking about wabbit now) - time to hide.

If I were a baddie and the idea came up in bts.....I'd think long and hard about doing it. Even if it was the team's only switch - Could knock out three baddies quick as you can blink. Wouldn't you think of doing it if the opportunity presented itself?

Interesting idea, bea

[bea]

bea I thin your idea has merit (you didn't ask me but I thought i'd tell you). The question is who would think up such a nefarious scheme especially since Epi is not playing. Got any ideas?

thanks JC -

And that's where it falls apart for me. Because I'm the world's biggest nub so if *I* thought of it, I can see any one of us being nefarious enough to try it. I'm in hindsite kicking myself that I didn't think of it in previous baddie games.

So - who - I always distrust LC. I just do. That's my gig not his. BR could have - BF could have. Cannuck has this stick where she's all funsies but she could have as easily as I just did. Same with elo - same with you - MM is a passionate player he could have thought of it too. See what I mean?

[Zombarella]

I'm here. I'm going to set up the kids' new computer and read the posts.

[Sophie]

Maybe my original submission works woth vimeo:[vimeo] https://vimeo.com/32578673 [/vimeo]

Damnit, can someone tell me how to do it?

[juliets]

Maybe my original submission works woth vimeo:[vimeo] https://vimeo.com/32578673 [/vimeo]

Damnit, can someone tell me how to do it?

sofie - i had to find a youtube version so I could use the youtube tags. but I know nothing - Long Con fixed my first one (or llama but i think it was LC).

[juliets]

bea I thin your idea has merit (you didn't ask me but I thought i'd tell you). The question is who would think up such a nefarious scheme especially since Epi is not playing. Got any ideas?

thanks JC -

And that's where it falls apart for me. Because I'm the world's biggest nub so if *I* thought of it, I can see any one of us being nefarious enough to try it. I'm in hindsite kicking myself that I didn't think of it in previous baddie games.

So - who - I always distrust LC. I just do. That's my gig not his. BR could have - BF could have. Cannuck has this stick where she's all funsies but she could have as easily as I just did. Same with elo - same with you - MM is a passionate player he could have thought of it too. See what I mean?

Yeah i do and I don't think much differently. There are some people I think probably wouldnt do it but i don't want to name them so they have a target on their back. But I think almost everyone could have. That's why I was hoping you had some specific suspicions.

[bea]

I wish I did JC -too often I think our game is so alike. So we're really good for this one set of things - this other set of things - we both kinda fall short on.

I think I can see what you are saying with the people you would guess probably wouldn't do it. I am also a paranoid mofo - could they have?