Who Framed Roger Rabbit? [Day 10]

#1051

Hi guys, we're having internet problems and my phone sucks for posting so I haven't been able to post much. I am still looking at Canuck for the lynch but I will reread and sort through things after bowling. I will be be back about 1 and half hours to two hours before the lynch is up. Hopefully our internet has worked out it's issues.

#1052

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elo, who do you currently suspect? Did you think MM was bad?

First off I will address your top three suspects. I am not sure about Canuck or Sophie, but I do think that your case on BF is convincing.

As for MM, I think his behavior showed that there is a good possibility that he is bad. However, I don't think many others agree with me. When I brought him back up in the thread (b/c all discussion of him seemed to cease just b/c of the Day 1 lynch situation) only a few players seem to even slightly agree and others decidedly disagreed. But, if Doom killed him, then my guess is Doom thought he was bad. If I were a last man standing role, I would try to get rid of the baddies (and their kill) first. Then I would try to take on the civvies. If a LMS role gets rid of the civvies first, he's doomed (

no pun intended).

As for where I am looking right now, I am planning on re-reading everything from Llama, BF, and LC before I cast my vote.

#1053

mp - here is the post that made me look at canuck:

Canucklehead wrote:So, for peeps who have been reading and following along in real time (rather than in sporadic and panicky and therefore shallow attempts to catch up, like me), would you say this is a more or less accurate (though obviously reductive) summation of the heads on the chopping block for today, according to the peeps making the cases?

Rabbit: Golden thinks is bad because he subtly defended Aces, has had heated "showdown" with LC
MP: Golden thinks he's bad because ?? Rabbit thinks he's bad because?? I'm lost here.
Eloh: Golden thinks she's bad (but is somewhat backing off) because she defended Juliets?? Or something??? I didn't really follow this case, need to look at it again
Sophie: a few people thought her low poster call out was ping worthy, but many others have her on a civ list
LC: rabbit thinks he's bad for reasons like defending BR and following Golden
Zombr: some people think she's bad for thinking Ace was an asset, many people think she's good

Is that it? Have any other potential vote getters really been brought up? Can anyone fill in the gaps or direct me to where I can (quickly and painlessly) fill in the gaps for myself? I read 17th century medical treatises all fucking day and FUCK if I'm now gonna go trawling through pages and pages of multi quotes and one line interjections and heated debates. Sorry. I just. Can. Not. Do. It. Today. I am a lazy mafia player today. I suck. I will try to get better.
But NOT today!!

She lists the people she thinks might be bad but she doesn't bring one thing to the table as far as those people go. She could have, for example, said:
"Rabbit: Golden thinks is bad because he subtly defended Aces, has had heated "showdown" with LC" I think the showdown sounded more civ vs civ myself.
The blue part I added as just an example of something she could have added to let us know what her opinion was, even if her opinion was "I don't know yet". She did do the "i don't know" with Elochin but with that and nothing about the others my point still stands. This is the kind of thing that makes me say she doesn't contribute. This would have been a perfect place to do it and may have helped us see why she voted you.

#1054

I have company coming for dinner. I have read the thread and Llama isn't posting at all and I think that he might be king of the baddies - laying low in the thread but making grand master baddie plans in BTSC.

*Votes Llama*

#1055

Zomberella12 wrote:I have company coming for dinner. I have read the thread and Llama isn't posting at all and I think that he might be king of the baddies - laying low in the thread but making grand master baddie plans in BTSC.

*Votes Llama*

I believe that he said he had company this weekend and would not be around much. It is not like Llama (baddie or civ) to lie low. However, I don't think your vote is in vain.

#1056

Long Con wrote:I've been following along, but my focus for the last day has been the Film Director's endgame. I want to take a fresh look at someone... I no longer suspect MP07, MM is dead now, and I'm apparently the only one that doesn't think Rabbit is super- Civ. I need to take a fresh look.

MP has a lot of thoughts about his lynch, and some are very compelling, but now I'm paranoid about agreeing with anyone because Canuck and Rabbit are trying to paint me up as a baddie who only piggybacks on suspicions.

I'm really kind of disconnected from this lynch at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disconnected from the game, I just think that this lynch is going to go weird again. As in, the one who gets the most votes will not be the one who dies.

I don't think we're seeing consciously directed lynch switches, I think there's a mechanic in this game we need to figure out. Who was the first person voted in each lynch? Does it have something to do with the letters in the names? Is there an A=1, B=2 pattern to apply here? Did the same person vote for both the non-lynched top vote-getters?

Internet is down at my house, so I'm posting from my phone. I will look into the things I've put forth here when I can use a computer for the searches and stuff.

stp, ths^^ bd LC s bd. Wntng lynh 2 lk lk dnt mttr.

LC nw r mss.

#1057

rabbit8 wrote:
Long Con wrote:I've been following along, but my focus for the last day has been the Film Director's endgame. I want to take a fresh look at someone... I no longer suspect MP07, MM is dead now, and I'm apparently the only one that doesn't think Rabbit is super- Civ. I need to take a fresh look.

MP has a lot of thoughts about his lynch, and some are very compelling, but now I'm paranoid about agreeing with anyone because Canuck and Rabbit are trying to paint me up as a baddie who only piggybacks on suspicions.

I'm really kind of disconnected from this lynch at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disconnected from the game, I just think that this lynch is going to go weird again. As in, the one who gets the most votes will not be the one who dies.

I don't think we're seeing consciously directed lynch switches, I think there's a mechanic in this game we need to figure out. Who was the first person voted in each lynch? Does it have something to do with the letters in the names? Is there an A=1, B=2 pattern to apply here? Did the same person vote for both the non-lynched top vote-getters?

Internet is down at my house, so I'm posting from my phone. I will look into the things I've put forth here when I can use a computer for the searches and stuff.

stp, ths^^ bd LC s bd. Wntng lynh 2 lk lk dnt mttr.

LC nw r mss.

Rabbit, I can see how LC's post here can seem pingy. And I suspect LC a bit myself. However, I think the latter half has some merit. Epi ALWAYS makes a separate poll thread. Always. Why not this time? Why is he making it more difficult for us to compare votes from day to day. If they are all together in one thread they are very easily compared. If we have to search Epi's posts, open each poll post in a new tab and click back and forth between them to figure out why the lynchee got lynched....I don't know...maybe LC is onto something. What do you all think?

#1058

N, thnk 1 swtch fr ch tm.

Usd rly bc bdd ws gong 2 b lynchd. thnk mp cvv.

hppnd mny tms n pst. swtchs rly. thr s ls stp cmng frm cvvs. jt syn.

#1059

Duly noted, splints, JC, and LC, thanks. All taken into consideration.

I'm torn on the LC v. rabbit debate, but for now I still believe it's better to cast my vote elsewhere.

My mind hasn't changed. I'll probably vote Canuck, but I'll hold off for now since I'll be around. It's been a somewhat quiet day period.

#1060

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I'm torn on the LC v. rabbit debate, but for now I still believe it's better to cast my vote elsewhere.

Rabbit! LC! Rabbit! LC! Hmm...lets take a look at what either of their partner said about them, shall we?

AceofSpaces wrote:Here are my thoughts on everyone so far.

Metalmash: Spent most of day 0 discussing the murder mystery. I couldn't see anything particularly suspicious there. During day 1 he calls out MP, but fails to provide any follow through. He also self voted, which is one of the best ways to avoid responsibility. Going to mark that down as suspicious.

Black Rock: Not much to go on from her. No read.

Juliets: She's been asking a lot of questions without putting forward any thoughts of her own.

Golden: One of the people making the largest effort so far, even if I think his Day 0 theory is bullshit. Part of me thinks he's just fishing for a reason to suspect people so he can appear helpful. A useless day 0 poll would fit that need quite handily.

Llama: He's insane. He's always insane. No read.

rabbit: I haven't played a lot of games with rabbit. Or if I have, I've completely forgotten them. Either way, he started out very jokey but has since been making a solid effort. I appreciate this.

Long Con: Thinks rabbits aggressive nature is a red flag. Something for me to consider.

Moving Picture: Also making a solid effort.

And there's more, but those are the hightlights for now.

If it were only between these two....which it is not of course...I would say Rabbit is most likely the teammate. But Rabbit is cursed right? Well, I think baddies have a history of self targeting/voting, don't you? This could be a possibility. Feedback please! AND...feedback on the Doom/MM thing too y'all.

#1061

what do you mean that they have a history of self targetting?

#1062

fingersplints wrote:what do you mean that they have a history of self targetting?

not necessarily self targeting, but pretending to be silenced, cursed, etc.

#1063

oh, and not necessarily in the game, we basically just started...I'm talking Mafia in general.

#1064

I'm not sure what sort of feedback you are looking for on the doom/mm thing. It's possible he was bad, but there is no real way to know for sure. It's also possible MM voted for Doom so felt threatened. I guess we can hope Doom is trying to get baddies first, but they are still a threat too.

linki: I think thats a pretty general statement. It depends on the individual what they would do as a baddie.
I don't think self targetting is allowed in this game anyways.

#1065

fingersplints wrote:I'm not sure what sort of feedback you are looking for on the doom/mm thing. It's possible he was bad, but there is no real way to know for sure. It's also possible MM voted for Doom so felt threatened. I guess we can hope Doom is trying to get baddies first, but they are still a threat too.

linki: I think thats a pretty general statement. It depends on the individual what they would do as a baddie.
I don't think self targetting is allowed in this game anyways.

I shouldn't have said self targeting. I just meant Rabbits curse doesn't excuse him from being bad b/c he could be pretending. I have read him as civ mostly, but Aces "review" of him makes him look worse than LC if we are just talking LC vs. Rabbit.

Who are you looking at splints?

#1066

why do you think it makes him look worse then LC? Aces didn't really give an opinion on either of them.

#1067

he ends with a compliment on Rabbit and an eye on LC.

#1068

Yes he compliments rabbits aggressiveness. He does not say if rabbit is good or bad. He says he is going to consider LC. I do not equate that with eyeing. To me, he does not say if LC is good or bad. I guess I am just not reading it the same as you.

I think for the most part I agree with you (rabbit seems more suspicious to LC) but for different reasons, and I don't know if it's the way you are wording it or what not that has me wary. I have to read some things again.

#1069

I don't know. I am just trying to put myself in Aces shoes as I read his post. I see him being very careful about what he says about his teammates. Making sure he brings them up and eyes them enough so that he distances himself but not too much and then also makes sure you come back around and be "okay" with them enough as to not make others begin suspicion on them. I feel that is what he did in his "read" of Rabbit.

#1070

Juliets: that's a pretty odd misinterpretation of that post of mine you quoted.

I know why MP suspects me, BR has thus far declined to elaborate, and bass seemed to ride her coat tails a little on that one, and now Juliets has joined the party. Fascinating.

I think my vote will be going to BR today. MP accused me d being opportunistic when I voted for him (which is not at all tue, but I can understand why he thought so), but BR's suspicon of me is both unfounded and gaining traction, all without her having to do much work at all. This is more than just a "no u" (though I totally acknowledge that that's what it looks like), but I've just got a suuuper bad gut vibe from BR, and her campaign against me (which she couches in language of "I think I might vote Canuck, but we'll see!", as if she ever had any plans of voting in any other way, lulz) is just the most recent piece of it. Imma gonna do a read through of her now to see if I can find something more substantial in her posts (since I know a gut feel from someone under the gun isn't likely to convince many of you), so I hope you'll all listen...

#1071

Look at his read on Golden as opposed to Rabbit. For Golden he does the exact opposite. He gives a slight compliment (he is showing effort) and then gives a slew of words to conjure up suspicion.

#1072

And, he actually backs rabbit up even MORE in his read on LC.

#1073

Canuk, i just read back through BR and found she had a similar interpretation so I don't think it's odd at all.

#1074

Ok, so I quickly reread BR's posts...an it turns out she's actually been suspecting me more or less since my D1 vote for MM, so I apologize for insinuating in my previous post that she's drummed up her suspicion of me out of nowhere. She hasn't.

Hmmmmm. Need to think a little more. There's something in her tone that is pinging me something fierce, but I'm not finding anything specific in her posts that I can pull out and discuss more fully. Her vote for Aces really reads in hindsight like a baddie gaining themselves some civ cred when they know their teamie is doomed (but of course, for this theory to be tre, it would have to mean that BR/Aces' team knew of whatever mechanism made Aces die instead of MM....though I suppose it's possible that BR placed a vote there as a more basic distancing ploy, and was as surprised as everyone else when Aces bit it instead of MM

)

Hmmmm. I need to read a few more peoples' posts...

#1075

Juliets: ok. But it's still wrong

#1076

juliets wrote:mp - here is the post that made me look at canuck:
Canucklehead wrote:So, for peeps who have been reading and following along in real time (rather than in sporadic and panicky and therefore shallow attempts to catch up, like me), would you say this is a more or less accurate (though obviously reductive) summation of the heads on the chopping block for today, according to the peeps making the cases?

Rabbit: Golden thinks is bad because he subtly defended Aces, has had heated "showdown" with LC
MP: Golden thinks he's bad because ?? Rabbit thinks he's bad because?? I'm lost here.
Eloh: Golden thinks she's bad (but is somewhat backing off) because she defended Juliets?? Or something??? I didn't really follow this case, need to look at it again
Sophie: a few people thought her low poster call out was ping worthy, but many others have her on a civ list
LC: rabbit thinks he's bad for reasons like defending BR and following Golden
Zombr: some people think she's bad for thinking Ace was an asset, many people think she's good

Is that it? Have any other potential vote getters really been brought up? Can anyone fill in the gaps or direct me to where I can (quickly and painlessly) fill in the gaps for myself? I read 17th century medical treatises all fucking day and FUCK if I'm now gonna go trawling through pages and pages of multi quotes and one line interjections and heated debates. Sorry. I just. Can. Not. Do. It. Today. I am a lazy mafia player today. I suck. I will try to get better.
But NOT today!!
She lists the people she thinks might be bad but she doesn't bring one thing to the table as far as those people go. She could have, for example, said:
"Rabbit: Golden thinks is bad because he subtly defended Aces, has had heated "showdown" with LC" I think the showdown sounded more civ vs civ myself.
The blue part I added as just an example of something she could have added to let us know what her opinion was, even if her opinion was "I don't know yet". She did do the "i don't know" with Elochin but with that and nothing about the others my point still stands. This is the kind of thing that makes me say she doesn't contribute. This would have been a perfect place to do it and may have helped us see why she voted you.

JC: the point of the post you quote (as it clearly says in the first sentence) was to try and get a grip on the pages and pages of looong posts that I aud been attempting to catch up on to make sure tht I had a basic gist of what was going on, and in hopes that someone would fill me in if I was waaaay off base. While that may be lazy and bad mafia playing, it's not baddie behaviour.
I suggested that you (and, according to you, BR?) misinterpreted my post because you read it as a (and I quote) "list [of] people she thinks is bad"...which is not at all what it was. It was a (bad, incomplete) summary, not a list of suspects. And the reason that I didn't add my own opinions was because I didn't have any yet, I was just trying to make sure I had glommed the general idea of the reasons people were being discussed. It says it all there, right in the first sentence. So yes. You misinterpreted.

#1077

So I reread Aces, and found what I think is an interesting link to BR. Twice (once in the list post the Eloh quote a few posts ago, and once in a post responding to Golden's queries about his read on BR) he mentions BR proclaiming that he has "no read" on her....which would be totally normal if he had made a point to make a similar comment about every player he had no read on, or if BR had been under some sort of heat or suspicon in general....but neither of those is true. He just pops her name into his list of thoughts on "everyone" (which actually only talked about a half dozen or so players), but says the most banal possible thing. This is a classic teammate thing: make a list of "reads" or "suspects", add in a few of your teamies so that you can't be accused of avoiding them later on, but make sure your mention of them isn't salacious enough to actually draw any attention. It's something I do often when bad, and the fact that Aces did it twice for BR (though, granted, the second time was after prompting by Golden) even though she'd posted little on topic or of substance to that point makes it especially odd. If his read on her was so non-existent (his comment is "she hasn't said enough for me to have a read"), why the cuff does she even appear on his list? Why was she even on his radar?

#1078

I agree with you canuck and I actually almost mentioned that about BR myself, but I think his read on Rabbit is more damning than on BR. We are getting close to the end of the day and I need to vote. I am voting Rabbit.

#1079

The lynch ends in one hour.

#1080

Canucklehead wrote:Juliets: that's a pretty odd misinterpretation of that post of mine you quoted.

I know why MP suspects me, BR has thus far declined to elaborate, and bass seemed to ride her coat tails a little on that one, and now Juliets has joined the party. Fascinating.

I think my vote will be going to BR today. MP accused me d being opportunistic when I voted for him (which is not at all tue, but I can understand why he thought so), but BR's suspicon of me is both unfounded and gaining traction, all without her having to do much work at all. This is more than just a "no u" (though I totally acknowledge that that's what it looks like), but I've just got a suuuper bad gut vibe from BR, and her campaign against me (which she couches in language of "I think I might vote Canuck, but we'll see!", as if she ever had any plans of voting in any other way, lulz) is just the most recent piece of it. Imma gonna do a read through of her now to see if I can find something more substantial in her posts (since I know a gut feel from someone under the gun isn't likely to convince many of you), so I hope you'll all listen...

Oh Canuck, Canuck, Canuck. Thank you for this. I just got home and I will take some time tonight to explain it to you. This post helps me with how I feel about you. First of all you are misrepresenting me here. Well that's enough. I am going to finish catching up and explain why I suspect you to the greatest detail so you can't say I didn't bother.

#1081

Keep reading! I take back that comment later, much to my chagrin!

#1082

Sorry I haven't been around. But long story short, car troubles were more involved than I thought and boogs and I had to spend the better part of our day replacing the starter.

Anyway, I think eloh asked about why someone being Jessica and finding golden would matter, and that's simply because depending on who she is and her insight in BTSC chat, she may have influenced his perceptions.

I can't believe MP is still trying to push suspicion my way, it's actually insulting how laughable this is. My vote is for him. And I honestly can't foresee voting anyone else until he's keeled over this game. I have the complete opposite opinions on literally just about everyone.

This one's for my fallen friend Golden! Votes mp

#1083

Canucklehead wrote:Keep reading! I take back that comment later, much to my chagrin!

I saw that, that made me happy. It actually makes me wonder about you a little. You didn't have to. I'm reading your posts now.

#1084

blindfaeth wrote:Sorry I haven't been around. But long story short, car troubles were more involved than I thought and boogs and I had to spend the better part of our day replacing the starter.

Anyway, I think eloh asked about why someone being Jessica and finding golden would matter, and that's simply because depending on who she is and her insight in BTSC chat, she may have influenced his perceptions.

I can't believe MP is still trying to push suspicion my way, it's actually insulting how laughable this is. My vote is for him. And I honestly can't foresee voting anyone else until he's keeled over this game. I have the complete opposite opinions on literally just about everyone.

This one's for my fallen friend Golden! Votes mp

You didn't find his upset to be genuine?

#1085

I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.

#1086

To clarify I'm not actually insulted and I love Alex but I feel strongly about him being bad this game

Linki.. It could be genuine. But if you know you are surviving, don't you agree it would be very easy to manipulate everyone into looking elsewhere?

#1087

Black Rock wrote:I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.

Good point. Vote mp

#1088

Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Sorry I haven't been around. But long story short, car troubles were more involved than I thought and boogs and I had to spend the better part of our day replacing the starter.

Anyway, I think eloh asked about why someone being Jessica and finding golden would matter, and that's simply because depending on who she is and her insight in BTSC chat, she may have influenced his perceptions.

I can't believe MP is still trying to push suspicion my way, it's actually insulting how laughable this is. My vote is for him. And I honestly can't foresee voting anyone else until he's keeled over this game. I have the complete opposite opinions on literally just about everyone.

This one's for my fallen friend Golden! Votes mp

You didn't find his upset to be genuine?

I'm actually still a little torn on this too. I believe he was genuinely upset. But I am not sure that that necesarily means he was genuinely upset because he was wrongfully lynched and not upset that he was lynched for what he thinks is bad reasoning. Why switched it to Golden specifically? Yes, he got Aces, but would they really just go for revenge. No. He had to have been on to someone. And I'm still not 100% sold the baddies would use a lynch switch on not one of there own AFTER already losing one this early in the game.

#1089

Gah, I am reading your posts Canuck but I just got totally distracted by the poll. There are 5 votes, 5... on 5 different people. You are handing the lynch over to the baddies. I do not suspect any of those 5 people so I don't want to vote for any of them. Therefore I am still likely to vote for a sixth person. Maybe I should be rereading some of the people that have a vote on them and the cases against them instead of Canuck.

Linki: If MP is a baddie than he completely fooled me and he will make my "never trust again" list. I just can't see it, especially if he knew he would be saved.

#1090

Those are some damn good points, splintsy

Linki: BR, I completely agree about spreading the vote. Especially with all the weird shenanigans going on, I'm worried about the waters getting even more muddied. :s

#1091

I think fs makes a good point that could have some merit. When I'm bad and I'm getting lynched I can sometimes start posting desperately. Part of you is hoping some civ wastes their ability on you. But mostly the frustration I've found I feel as a baddie is like fs said, because people suspect you for the wrong reasons. You're trying to argue against their points, but regardless if how they came to their conclusion, the fact remains they're right.

#1092

Black Rock wrote:I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.

Don't spread votes, but don't bandwagon or you're found suspicious for not having your own thoughts. Which is better?

#1093

This vote is making me skerred.

IDK where to vote tbh. Too many people in the gray area and not enough of the more solidly civ or mafia in my feels. Also weird lynch manips are weird. Gah!

#1094

Idk, there are just too many people who have dropped the mp suspicion for my liking. Think about how baddies love forgive to have tons of suspicion on them. I think this is an agenda they're pushing.

#1095

Ok Canuck.

Day 0 - because no one had info and we actually couldn't solve it properly I am not putting a great effort into a reread of this day. Canuck herself put in a lot of effort into solving it which is commendable. Which is why...

Canucklehead wrote:In a rush, sorry! Voting MM for the selfie.

(Though I should probably vote myself to be consistent with my earlier stance on voting low contributors )

This vote completely pings me. Before this post she had exactly one post for day one which she dissed low posters and brought nothing else to the table.

Canucklehead wrote:Hi, Sophie. I don't think we've met.
I share your general blarginess about low posters. But I also sometimes get busy and can't post. So there you go. It's a little early in the game to be tossing out the "flying under the radar" accusations, don't you think? (And this is coming from someone who can be guaranteed to throw out precisely that accusation at least once a game....I just wait a little longer before doing so). Besides, Being a low poster isn't actually a good strategy for baddies in either the early or the late game, it works best in the middle when lots of pits are stirred up and lots of suspects are on the table. In the early and late game, it stands out too much.

So yeah. I haven't been very involved in the game yet. I have been otherwise occupied, and I haven't really had a chance to get y head around anything at all yet. This is common for me in games where people post a shit tonne early in the game; I end up having to skim just to catch up, and as a result I don't pay close enough attention to really generate thoights or reads on anyone.

That said, i like Golden's efforts to find links to Aces. I don't buy the case on Eloh, but I could potentially get behind a Juliets vote.

Here's when she starts to say the game is moving too fast for her to have much of an opinion.

Canucklehead wrote:I must be drinking too much, because rabbit's LC vibes are feeling spot on to me....

Not so much the details and nitty gritty that they keep pissing back and forth (and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth) about (and let's be honest, I've basically only skimmed those details), but his general pings about LC not being first to accuse, and his general tone (sorry....I've got nothing more concrete than tht to point to right now. I'm knee deep in shit and actually shouldn't even be posting right now)....I also think the translation LC is doing is a good way to both ally himself with Super Golden and seem generally helpful. Granted other people are translating too, and I do think LC might do the same if he were civ...but something about his buddying up to Golden against rabbit (who I think is civ) and his other posts is feeling pingy to me....

Gah. This is a terrible post. Super vague, doesn't really say anything. But I wanted to register my current thoughts (which are obviously nebulous and not set in stone) before watching how the rest of this plays out. Hopefully I'll get a chance later to do some actual looking/thinking....but this is where my gut is right now. It isn't really enough for a vote for LC....but I don't have any super strong suspicions that aren't LC, either.

I am not good at these reading intensive games. Can't keep up!

Here she seems to want to jump on the LC train but is still non-committal about it. The second post where she blames the game for her lack of participation.

This is the post that clinched it for me on day two:

Canucklehead wrote:So, for peeps who have been reading and following along in real time (rather than in sporadic and panicky and therefore shallow attempts to catch up, like me), would you say this is a more or less accurate (though obviously reductive) summation of the heads on the chopping block for today, according to the peeps making the cases?

Rabbit: Golden thinks is bad because he subtly defended Aces, has had heated "showdown" with LC
MP: Golden thinks he's bad because ?? Rabbit thinks he's bad because?? I'm lost here.
Eloh: Golden thinks she's bad (but is somewhat backing off) because she defended Juliets?? Or something??? I didn't really follow this case, need to look at it again
Sophie: a few people thought her low poster call out was ping worthy, but many others have her on a civ list
LC: rabbit thinks he's bad for reasons like defending BR and following Golden
Zombr: some people think she's bad for thinking Ace was an asset, many people think she's good

Is that it? Have any other potential vote getters really been brought up? Can anyone fill in the gaps or direct me to where I can (quickly and painlessly) fill in the gaps for myself? I read 17th century medical treatises all fucking day and FUCK if I'm now gonna go trawling through pages and pages of multi quotes and one line interjections and heated debates. Sorry. I just. Can. Not. Do. It. Today. I am a lazy mafia player today. I suck. I will try to get better.
But NOT today!!

All she does is tell us what other peoples opinions are and offers none of her own.

Between her day one clincher vote and these posts that's why I voted Canuck on day 2. This is my explanation for why I have suspected Canuck up until day three.

I am going to post this and see what posts I missed before moving on.

#1096

For civs, not forgive. Dumb phone

#1097

Elohcin wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.
Don't spread votes, but don't bandwagon or you're found suspicious for not having your own thoughts. Which is better?

Hey hey, don't put that on me. Those are not my thoughts. I think Rabbit has built his case on LC regarding those thoughts.

#1098

bea wrote:This vote is making me skerred. IDK where to vote tbh. Too many people in the gray area and not enough of the more solidly civ or mafia in my feels. Also weird lynch manips are weird. Gah!

You are scared. I have a vote.

#1099

I'm thinking about voting rabbit now both because canuck has me concerned that I misinterpreted her and because I don't want to spread the vote further. rabbit was sheer full ahead tunneling on day 1 and I have the luxury of knowing he was wrong. He usually has a good nose for baddies when he is good so I'm suspicious that he is bad this game. And where is he anyway?

#1100

Black Rock wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.
Don't spread votes, but don't bandwagon or you're found suspicious for not having your own thoughts. Which is better?

Hey hey, don't put that on me. Those are not my thoughts. I think Rabbit has built his case on LC regarding those thoughts.

Forgive me, I wasn't trying to put those thoughts on you specifically. It was just your post that reminded me that very often in mafia there are lose lose situations.

How About Now?