Who Framed Roger Rabbit? [Day 10]

#2051

BF, why is llama not on your suspect list?
For that matter, why is he not on more people's? He's been super sketch all game, what with his erratic voting and relatively (for him, I think) little baddie hunting or posting.

Why do people seem to trust him? What am I missing here? I'd love to get the last baddie and end this game tomorrow, so I want to work with the people I trust to come to a consensus....but if llama isn't on anyone else's radar, I'm concerned.....

#2052

blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.

I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.

#2053

Canucklehead wrote:BF, why is llama not on your suspect list?
For that matter, why is he not on more people's? He's been super sketch all game, what with his erratic voting and relatively (for him, I think) little baddie hunting or posting.

Why do people seem to trust him? What am I missing here? I'd love to get the last baddie and end this game tomorrow, so I want to work with the people I trust to come to a consensus....but if llama isn't on anyone else's radar, I'm concerned.....

He is certainly on my radar

#2054

Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.
I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.

Oh wait wait this is vwry interesting. I went to page 1 to see this, somehow i missed the part that judge could direct a TOON PATROL vote each night. How wasnt this brought up before??
Ive accused of llama vote for me being directed at one point cause it didnt make srnse (he denied it of course cause it would make him baddir if he admited it) but i thought at the time that vote can be directed to anyone, not just toon patrol members. Llama did vote for me lonely the lynch were everyone voted bass, that vote was more than weird. I wanna go check if aces, ninju and zomba voted solo or not the obvious suspect in other lynches, this is interesying to say the least

Sorry for typos im on phone

#2055

thellama73 wrote:I am breaking in my Zomba voting routine to take Sophie down a peg. Don't get too comfortable, Zomba. You won't be cursed forever.

*votes Sophie.*

Oh no wait, it wasnt bass day, it was niju day that llama voted for me. He was the first vote, too, he voted early and for no reason. He also made a post saying people should vote for me and no one listened, and then canuck came with her niju post, and everyone voted that way.
This seems directed, is convenient too that llama voted one day early, i mean, the night jyst ended and llama placed his vote on me early, before anyone else voted, so his vote wont seem directed??
Why so early?

#2056

thellama73 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Llama, listen...I am pretty certain we should stick together on lynches and not spread things out too much.
Good, then vote for Sophie like I did and we will all be together.

Look, llama voted for me at 8 in the morning, before anyone have casted any vote. This was a very acrive day in thread, this was after bass "slip" and lc affair. Zomba was cursed and assuring lc was bad, elo was saying lc was bad, canuck had made the huge-great case on niju. Granted, his case was after llama votes for me, but the thread was active since night eneded and zomba came back curaed talking about lc.

This post i quote is from 1:30 pm, 5 houra after he boted for me. At that point, everyone was agreeing on canucks case and lc allieganxe was being discussed. Llama was certainly in the thread to tell people to vote for me, so, why, why on earth would he vote for me at 8 in the morning???

If his vote was being directed and he voted for me AFTER everyone else voted someone else, the directed voting would have been much more obvious.

Voting very early gives him the possibilty to say his vote was geniune

#2057

Sophie wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.
I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.
Oh wait wait this is vwry interesting. I went to page 1 to see this, somehow i missed the part that judge could direct a TOON PATROL vote each night. How wasnt this brought up before??
Ive accused of llama vote for me being directed at one point cause it didnt make srnse (he denied it of course cause it would make him baddir if he admited it) but i thought at the time that vote can be directed to anyone, not just toon patrol members. Llama did vote for me lonely the lynch were everyone voted bass, that vote was more than weird. I wanna go check if aces, ninju and zomba voted solo or not the obvious suspect in other lynches, this is interesying to say the least

Sorry for typos im on phone

It was brought up by LC. He made a whole case on how Lama set him up. It was very convincing. And Yes he calls me out too. Like that's a suprize.

Long Con wrote:Day 1 Lynch poll
Day 2 Lynch poll
Day 3 Lynch poll
Day 4 Lynch poll
Day 5 Lynch poll

Day 1: Llama votes for his teammate, Zombarella. Votes off the main stream to start establishing a pattern of being the only voter for someone.

Day 2: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin

Day 3: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin (poll was reset after his early vote, but it still counted)

Day 4: Llama is the only vote for Zombarella

Day 5: Llama votes off the main stretch again, for Zombarella

Llama is casting these votes because he's a baddie, and he doesn't want Judge Doom's effect to cause a disruption in his voting pattern.

He's voting Zombarella for distancing, because she is his teammate.

This will probably be my last living post, unless RK Maroon is alive and wants to save me.

Watch the voting patterns, people. They tell all. Lynch Rabbit too, that's just fine. Thanks for the giggles.

#2058

Sophie wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.
I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.
Oh wait wait this is vwry interesting. I went to page 1 to see this, somehow i missed the part that judge could direct a TOON PATROL vote each night. How wasnt this brought up before??
Ive accused of llama vote for me being directed at one point cause it didnt make srnse (he denied it of course cause it would make him baddir if he admited it) but i thought at the time that vote can be directed to anyone, not just toon patrol members. Llama did vote for me lonely the lynch were everyone voted bass, that vote was more than weird. I wanna go check if aces, ninju and zomba voted solo or not the obvious suspect in other lynches, this is interesying to say the least

Sorry for typos im on phone

It was brought up by LC. He made a whole case on how Lama set him up. It was very convincing. And Yes he calls me out too. Like that's a suprize.

Long Con wrote:Day 1 Lynch poll
Day 2 Lynch poll
Day 3 Lynch poll
Day 4 Lynch poll
Day 5 Lynch poll

Day 1: Llama votes for his teammate, Zombarella. Votes off the main stream to start establishing a pattern of being the only voter for someone.

Day 2: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin

Day 3: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin (poll was reset after his early vote, but it still counted)

Day 4: Llama is the only vote for Zombarella

Day 5: Llama votes off the main stretch again, for Zombarella

Llama is casting these votes because he's a baddie, and he doesn't want Judge Doom's effect to cause a disruption in his voting pattern.

He's voting Zombarella for distancing, because she is his teammate.

This will probably be my last living post, unless RK Maroon is alive and wants to save me.

Watch the voting patterns, people. They tell all. Lynch Rabbit too, that's just fine. Thanks for the giggles.

#2059

Are we going to argue that LC did not know who was voting for who LC made them Vote. I don't think so.

I will vote for Lama tomorrow.

#2060

That makes sense. I just hope he was being genuine.

#2061

I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

#2062

Sophie wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.
I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.
Oh wait wait this is vwry interesting. I went to page 1 to see this, somehow i missed the part that judge could direct a TOON PATROL vote each night. How wasnt this brought up before??
Ive accused of llama vote for me being directed at one point cause it didnt make srnse (he denied it of course cause it would make him baddir if he admited it) but i thought at the time that vote can be directed to anyone, not just toon patrol members. Llama did vote for me lonely the lynch were everyone voted bass, that vote was more than weird. I wanna go check if aces, ninju and zomba voted solo or not the obvious suspect in other lynches, this is interesying to say the least

Sorry for typos im on phone

I see the conspiracy theorists are out in force today.

First of all I ALWAYS HAVE A REASON.

Second of all, what on earth makes you think my vote was forced? My votes are the most consistent and the least forced-looking of just about anybody.

Third, do you REALLY think I would campaign so hard against Zombrella ALL GAME if I were her teammate? Don't you remember I tried to save Long Con by drumming up Zombrella votes? Use your heads, people.

#2063

fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

I don't know, the ones that the judge who knew he was dying specifically laid out for us.

There was no reason for him to pick Lama over every other player who he had coming at him. He could have laid into me. I have been his biggest naysayer all game. But he chose Lama. Why would he do that? Because he knows what votes he made the baddies cast all game.

Going after someone who is a baddie all games proves nothing. I've done the same thing when bad. So that argument means little to me.

#2064

Sophie wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Llama, what do you think of Rabbit8? He seemed to come after LC. Could it be when he hadn't gotten LC lynched yet that he sicked his team on him?
What I want to know is, why did the baddies want the judge dead so bad that they made bass fake a slipped PM? How did it benefit them? We already learned from Epi they don't inherit the kill.
I think they didn't want the Judge to kill them and the Judge could know who they were because he could force their vote. Maybe what we should look into is odd votes. Llama does fit that description.
Oh wait wait this is vwry interesting. I went to page 1 to see this, somehow i missed the part that judge could direct a TOON PATROL vote each night. How wasnt this brought up before??

This was brought up before. Lots.

#2065

Hey folks! Won't really be around today, but had a bit of time to pop in.

I think Llama is my best guess for the remaining Toon Patrol member (assuming there is one) as well. And I don't know why he's using the distancing argument, as IIRC he distanced from reywaS in American Gods practically the entire game, gunning after him constantly. I still feel there wasn't really anything to Zomba early on in the game, so his laser focus on her back then, as well as LC's supposed attempt to take down the team, make sense to me. Llama is also one of the few I am most unsure about.

Others I'm unsure of include bea, rabbit, and Sophie, in that order. I'd like to think the baddies have played a really obvious panicking game so I don't see how they won't have lost after a Llama or bea lynch, but I really don't know. I would do some analysis of my own, but I have my midterm tomorrow. So until Wednesday evening, I won't be able to participate much at all.

#2066

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey folks! Won't really be around today, but had a bit of time to pop in.

I think Llama is my best guess for the remaining Toon Patrol member (assuming there is one) as well. And I don't know why he's using the distancing argument, as IIRC he distanced from reywaS in American Gods practically the entire game, gunning after him constantly. I still feel there wasn't really anything to Zomba early on in the game, so his laser focus on her back then, as well as LC's supposed attempt to take down the team, make sense to me. Llama is also one of the few I am most unsure about.

Others I'm unsure of include bea, rabbit, and Sophie, in that order. I'd like to think the baddies have played a really obvious panicking game so I don't see how they won't have lost after a Llama or bea lynch, but I really don't know. I would do some analysis of my own, but I have my midterm tomorrow. So until Wednesday evening, I won't be able to participate much at all.

MP - there has to be a toon patrol member left or this game would be over.

#2067

rabbit8 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

I don't know, the ones that the judge who knew he was dying specifically laid out for us.

There was no reason for him to pick Lama over every other player who he had coming at him. He could have laid into me. I have been his biggest naysayer all game. But he chose Lama. Why would he do that? Because he knows what votes he made the baddies cast all game.

Going after someone who is a baddie all games proves nothing. I've done the same thing when bad. So that argument means little to me.

Which day specifically? I don't see anywhere that the judge says llama's vote was definitely controlled, and I feel like people are accusing him of being forced at the same time zomba was clearly forced.

I think zomba was a super obvious baddie this game. So while llama could have been distancing I don't believe it. Also, how he is playing this game i get the impression he doesn't have btsc this game. But I am basing this off Monopoly mainly and having gained btsc with him that game

#2068

rabbit8 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

I don't know, the ones that the judge who knew he was dying specifically laid out for us.

There was no reason for him to pick Lama over every other player who he had coming at him. He could have laid into me. I have been his biggest naysayer all game. But he chose Lama. Why would he do that? Because he knows what votes he made the baddies cast all game.

Going after someone who is a baddie all games proves nothing. I've done the same thing when bad. So that argument means little to me.

Why do you say these things as if they are fact? My vote has never been forced. I think that's obvious from my voting record. Why are people buying this line of bologna?

Can someone please give actual evidence for why I might be bad instead of just assuming my vote was forced? Why not assume rabbit's vote was forced, or MP's, or Sophie's? I genuinely don't understand where this suspicion is coming from.

#2069

So, some thoughts in re: the secret contest lottery:
I'm assuming the prize is a rezz, though Epi's post doesn't explicitly state that anywhere. Since it is a lottery and not a poll, it doesn't really matter if we all vote for the same person, so long as we all remember to vote (so that we increase the chances of a civ name being pulled). I guarantee the baddies are all going to use up all their ballots, and we need to do the same. Ninja entered a lot of contests, so did bass, do did zombra, so did llama. I personally think Eloh might be a better rezz result than Golden (since we know what Eloh's power is, and that it might be useful. We don't know what Golden's secrets were, so we can't be sure of how powerful or useful he would be at this point.

I like the idea of giving him a second chance since he got killed so early, but I also want to be sure that we have a good hand of powers available to us for endgame. Again, people can vote for whoever they want, since we don't need to be unanimous on this, but I just wanted to throw Eloh's name out there for consideration.

But really, just MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!!!! Don't forget. Please.

#2070

thellama73 wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

I don't know, the ones that the judge who knew he was dying specifically laid out for us.

There was no reason for him to pick Lama over every other player who he had coming at him. He could have laid into me. I have been his biggest naysayer all game. But he chose Lama. Why would he do that? Because he knows what votes he made the baddies cast all game.

Going after someone who is a baddie all games proves nothing. I've done the same thing when bad. So that argument means little to me.
Why do you say these things as if they are fact? My vote has never been forced. I think that's obvious from my voting record. Why are people buying this line of bologna?

Can someone please give actual evidence for why I might be bad instead of just assuming my vote was forced? Why not assume rabbit's vote was forced, or MP's, or Sophie's? I genuinely don't understand where this suspicion is coming from.

Can you give actual reasons for your votes, instead of just smirking and saying "I always have reasons"?

#2071

Canucklehead wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I don't buy it. when do you think LC supposedly forced llama's vote? His votes have been very consistant this whole game

I don't know, the ones that the judge who knew he was dying specifically laid out for us.

There was no reason for him to pick Lama over every other player who he had coming at him. He could have laid into me. I have been his biggest naysayer all game. But he chose Lama. Why would he do that? Because he knows what votes he made the baddies cast all game.

Going after someone who is a baddie all games proves nothing. I've done the same thing when bad. So that argument means little to me.
Why do you say these things as if they are fact? My vote has never been forced. I think that's obvious from my voting record. Why are people buying this line of bologna?

Can someone please give actual evidence for why I might be bad instead of just assuming my vote was forced? Why not assume rabbit's vote was forced, or MP's, or Sophie's? I genuinely don't understand where this suspicion is coming from.
Can you give actual reasons for your votes, instead of just smirking and saying "I always have reasons"?

I never smirked, but sure. WHich vote would you like me to explain.

#2072

I did explain all of my votes at the time. It's not my fault no one read my explanations. You can keep saying "you don't have reasons" over and over again, but it doesn't make it true. ANyone who actually takes the time to read my posts will see that I explained my votes. I am annoyed at this shabby attempt to misrepresent me for an easy lynch.

#2073

Canucklehead wrote:So, some thoughts in re: the secret contest lottery:
I'm assuming the prize is a rezz, though Epi's post doesn't explicitly state that anywhere. Since it is a lottery and not a poll, it doesn't really matter if we all vote for the same person, so long as we all remember to vote (so that we increase the chances of a civ name being pulled). I guarantee the baddies are all going to use up all their ballots, and we need to do the same. Ninja entered a lot of contests, so did bass, do did zombra, so did llama. I personally think Eloh might be a better rezz result than Golden (since we know what Eloh's power is, and that it might be useful. We don't know what Golden's secrets were, so we can't be sure of how powerful or useful he would be at this point. I like the idea of giving him a second chance since he got killed so early, but I also want to be sure that we have a good hand of powers available to us for endgame. Again, people can vote for whoever they want, since we don't need to be unanimous on this, but I just wanted to throw Eloh's name out there for consideration.

But really, just MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!!!! Don't forget. Please.

I sent Elo's name in for my one night submission. No offense to Golden, but Elo was the last confirmed civvie to be killed. I always go with the last out because they are usually still the most into the game.

#2074

I'm reading through your posts right now, llama, and you're right. You built two big cases against Zombra and Sophie, and have stuck to those suspicions all game. You have given reasons. I retract that statement.

I guess where my concern with you comes in, then, is why you insisted on continuing with those votes even on days where we had obvious baddies to lynch? You voted zomb on Bass day, and Sophie on Ninja day (I know you maintain doubts about ninja's baddiness.....but instead of arguing against her being bad, you just voted early and said practically nothing that day). I get that zomb and sophie are your suspects and you've been consistent, but even if you were right about both of them, there were still always other baddies that needed lynching, why insist on going against the crowd? I know you hate hive minds...but surely you could see the benefit in voting Bass, at least?? I just don't get it. These two votes are the most suspicious ones to me.They obviously couldn't both be forced Judge votes (because of double targetting), but I am worried that one of them might be.

#2075

Was LC's confidence of llama before or after his vote for sophie?
I guess I could see the sophie vote being forced if any, but the zomb vote on bass day was clearly not

#2076

Canucklehead wrote:I'm reading through your posts right now, llama, and you're right. You built two big cases against Zombra and Sophie, and have stuck to those suspicions all game. You have given reasons. I retract that statement.

I guess where my concern with you comes in, then, is why you insisted on continuing with those votes even on days where we had obvious baddies to lynch? You voted zomb on Bass day, and Sophie on Ninja day (I know you maintain doubts about ninja's baddiness.....but instead of arguing against her being bad, you just voted early and said practically nothing that day). I get that zomb and sophie are your suspects and you've been consistent, but even if you were right about both of them, there were still always other baddies that needed lynching, why insist on going against the crowd? I know you hate hive minds...but surely you could see the benefit in voting Bass, at least?? I just don't get it. These two votes are the most suspicious ones to me.They obviously couldn't both be forced Judge votes (because of double targetting), but I am worried that one of them might be.

Thank you for seeing reason. The simple answer to this is that I was super involved in Death Note at the time of those votes, and had limited ability to pay attention here, so I stuck with my instincts rather than following the crowd. I am dead in Death Note now, and have more ability to pay attention.

I would note that my votes didn't prevent any of those people from being lynched. Not even close.

#2077

So, I hate to even mention this, but I want to consider all options. How does everyone feel about Fs? I think she feels civ all game to me. Last night as I was trying to fall asleep I was thinking about the game though, and it struck me that we now know bass and his pm slip were in fact faked, because they weren't on the same team. Fs was the one who was grilling bass, and his game Pm was in response to feeling heat from her. "I can't believe how much heat I'm getting for this vote", something like that he said. Is it possible she and bass preplanned the whole exchange? This is the only thing that gives me pause. I still think rabbit is the most likely personally but I'm trying very hard to keep an open pen mind.

#2078

bf, what're your thoughts on llama? (Sorry if you've already said....)

#2079

blindfaeth wrote:So, I hate to even mention this, but I want to consider all options. How does everyone feel about Fs? I think she feels civ all game to me. Last night as I was trying to fall asleep I was thinking about the game though, and it struck me that we now know bass and his pm slip were in fact faked, because they weren't on the same team. Fs was the one who was grilling bass, and his game Pm was in response to feeling heat from her. "I can't believe how much heat I'm getting for this vote", something like that he said. Is it possible she and bass preplanned the whole exchange? This is the only thing that gives me pause. I still think rabbit is the most likely personally but I'm trying very hard to keep an open pen mind.

I've been reading her as civ, but her voting record is terrible. She was the last person to vote for Bass, the last person to vote for Long Con, and the last person to vote for Zombrella.

#2080

I always vote as late as I can. I have every game and will continue to do so every game.

#2081

And you are on your own now llama. I'm done defending you

#2082

Do we know elos power? I thought she was nk?

Bf you havent mentionrdmed how you feel about llama.
And llama case on me was bogus, pointed out by several people that his reasons of thinking i was bad, made them think i was civ. He basically said i voted for baddies all game (duh) and tried too hard to look civ, but that apparently was enough for him to make me number 1 suspih and vote EARLY for me in a very active day with lots going on.
The oddest thing, imo, is that. Why vote so early??

Also, see how llama was all after me tgat day but then completely dropped that suspicion abd started gunning after llama right the next day.

And if the accusing the other is an argument, llama, well, zomba did throw my name and said i was baddie a couple of times, so according to your logic we couldnt be teammates. But we all know teammats do distancing all the time. And you and zomba were at eachother since the beggining. Almost like too much.

Anyways, im not sold on llama being bad, im open to discuss othr suspectd as weell, but the TIMING of his vote its whats odd to me. The timing of that particular day. Go back and reread that day and youll see what i mean. He was here later.

#2083

*Gunning after zomba

Sorry also for typos, im on phone

#2084

Sophie wrote:Do we know elos power? I thought she was nk?

She was Nk'd, yes. Some of us believe her to be a specific role though.

#2085

fingersplints wrote:
Sophie wrote:Do we know elos power? I thought she was nk?
She was Nk'd, yes. Some of us believe her to be a specific role though.

Oh, ok, i will have to reread her to see what u mean

#2086

fingersplints wrote:And you are on your own now llama. I'm done defending you

Okay. I don't plan to vote for you though. I think Rabbit is the one.

#2087

I definitely need to reread rabbit. He has been entirely not on my radar at all, and I haven't given enough thought to whether or not he could be the last weasel. :hmm:

#2088

To be honest I have been in Rabbits corner all game. I've not seen any baddie Rabbit. I like what he's saying now.

I mean someone crafty came up with the LC frame job, right Llama?

#2089

thellama73 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:And you are on your own now llama. I'm done defending you
Okay. I don't plan to vote for you though. I think Rabbit is the one.

I was just teasing you.

He is one of a couple I am considering.

BR, are you suggesting that rabbit is not crafty enough to frame LC like that?

#2090

fingersplints wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:And you are on your own now llama. I'm done defending you
Okay. I don't plan to vote for you though. I think Rabbit is the one.
I was just teasing you.
He is one of a couple I am considering.

BR, are you suggesting that rabbit is not crafty enough to frame LC like that?

Oh no, he is. Most of the players in this game are. I just don't think it was him.

#2091

My opinion of llama? Sure.

I think I've been pretty much no read on him all game. I guess I'm not considering him as a possibility for Zomba's teammate because how hardcore he's been pushing for her lynch for a long time. And also, he didn't want us to lynch LC. Which is the complete opposite of what the whole baddie team has been doing, trying to get us to out the judge. So for those reasons, I'm leaning towards believing Llama is good.

#2092

blindfaeth wrote:My opinion of llama? Sure.

I think I've been pretty much no read on him all game. I guess I'm not considering him as a possibility for Zomba's teammate because how hardcore he's been pushing for her lynch for a long time. And also, he didn't want us to lynch LC. Which is the complete opposite of what the whole baddie team has been doing, trying to get us to out the judge. So for those reasons, I'm leaning towards believing Llama is good.

That's fair. I'm back and forth as well. Every time I start to suspect him he says something that changes my mind. I just keep in mind that he is a very crafty, excellent player. Got to have a lot of respect for him.

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blindfaeth wrote:My opinion of llama? Sure.

I think I've been pretty much no read on him all game. I guess I'm not considering him as a possibility for Zomba's teammate because how hardcore he's been pushing for her lynch for a long time. And also, he didn't want us to lynch LC. Which is the complete opposite of what the whole baddie team has been doing, trying to get us to out the judge. So for those reasons, I'm leaning towards believing Llama is good.

But he didn't need to push for an LC lynch since we civs were already jumping on that train of our own accord (i.e. The plan worked, perfectly). Llama knew he would be better served by distancing from te whole thing, just like he did with his game-long distancing with Z.

I reread rabbit, and I do not see anything incriminating in his posts. At all. So llama's suspicion of rabbit seems a mark against llama. Looks like he's attempting to gun for someone who might actually be lynched, rather than Sophie who would be a much harder sell, in order to keep himself safe.

I still think llama is a tip suspect, though I do have doubts. Bea would be the other possibility, ino.

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Well yesterday when I reread llama's posts I do recall that they seemed oddly empty of referencing people in general. I could be wrong, but it seemed like he hadn't mentioned a whole slew of people by name at all. Or if he did, very little. There are a couple who he consistently would talk about, Sophie and Zomba, talking to splints, etc. IDK whether that's incriminating, just something I wanted to point out.

Well maybe we all put our top three suspects and we go with who overlaps the most? I'm not sure how to resolve. I think its between rabbit, llama and bea.

#2095

Mine is rabbit, and bea. I don't have a third.

the ones I have felt most paranoid of my trust in are llama and Sophie. I guess if I had to pick a third, those two would be where I looked.

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I just don't see the case on rabbit. Reading through his posts I did have a glimmer of an idea for a civ role for him based on some things that happened early (not a role hint or anything, just some extrapolations and conjecturing I was thinking about), but it's by no means a sure thing...

I just think the case (such as it is)/circumstantial evidence on llama is more compelling, and I think the absence of anything definitive on Bea is more compelling than the case on rabbit. I'm reading him as civ, with now real pings...and BR (who I think has a long history with him) is also reading him as civ, which says a lot, I thibk. But I am totally willing to listen to why you're reading him differently, since you've also played with him lots.

#2097

I have felt more comfortable with Sophie as of late but maybe I should look over her again.

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blindfaeth wrote:Well yesterday when I reread llama's posts I do recall that they seemed oddly empty of referencing people in general. I could be wrong, but it seemed like he hadn't mentioned a whole slew of people by name at all. Or if he did, very little. There are a couple who he consistently would talk about, Sophie and Zomba, talking to splints, etc. IDK whether that's incriminating, just something I wanted to point out.

Well maybe we all put our top three suspects and we go with who overlaps the most? I'm not sure how to resolve. I think its between rabbit, llama and bea.

Very well. My top three are Rabbit, Sophie, and Canucklehead.

#2099

ill proceed read rabbit and bea now

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rabbit8 wrote:

It was brought up by LC. He made a whole case on how Lama set him up. It was very convincing. And Yes he calls me out too. Like that's a suprize.

Long Con wrote:Day 1 Lynch poll
Day 2 Lynch poll
Day 3 Lynch poll
Day 4 Lynch poll
Day 5 Lynch poll

Day 1: Llama votes for his teammate, Zombarella. Votes off the main stream to start establishing a pattern of being the only voter for someone.

Day 2: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin

Day 3: Llama is the only one to vote for Elohcin (poll was reset after his early vote, but it still counted)

Day 4: Llama is the only vote for Zombarella

Day 5: Llama votes off the main stretch again, for Zombarella

Llama is casting these votes because he's a baddie, and he doesn't want Judge Doom's effect to cause a disruption in his voting pattern.

He's voting Zombarella for distancing, because she is his teammate.

This will probably be my last living post, unless RK Maroon is alive and wants to save me.

Watch the voting patterns, people. They tell all. Lynch Rabbit too, that's just fine. Thanks for the giggles.

i was reading rabbit posts and came across this. This is the case LC did on llama. Maybe LC did want revenge of the baddies who set him up, and he KNEW llama was bad because he made him vote off -for me, maybe-. What do u think of this?

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