Who Framed Roger Rabbit? [Day 10]

PonySparkPrime · #2151

Zomberella12 wrote:.If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter.

Blindfaeth - rabbit's case hinges on Llama and Zombie distancing from each other all game.

I've now just cut a bit out of the huge asset post.

Are we to believe Zombie had the presence of mind to distance herself from one teammate while simultaneously making the biggest newbie mistake ever to try to save another? I just can't see it. A reread of all of Zombie's posts confirm my thinking... her posts about llama do not read as distancing.

#2152

Lena Hyena wrote:I was just posting my thoughts. I was not expecting all out war or attack. Apologies, I'm not going to engage in a spitting match.

My view is very simple. Someone framed Roger Rabbit. I do not believe it was llama. I believe Zombie's posts could hold the key. If you want to catch baddies, then engage with me instead of trying to discredit me.

Ok, Golden. I get it. You think you got me. well see.

#2153

Lena Hyena wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:.If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter.
Blindfaeth - rabbit's case hinges on Llama and Zombie distancing from each other all game.

I've now just cut a bit out of the huge asset post.

Are we to believe Zombie had the presence of mind to distance herself from one teammate while simultaneously making the biggest newbie mistake ever to try to save another? I just can't see it. A reread of all of Zombie's posts confirm my thinking... her posts about llama do not read as distancing.

No, I agree with LC who knew what votes he caused to be made. Pay attention at least. If you're going to be an idiot about it I can't engage with you.

#2154

Lena Hyena wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:.If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter.
Blindfaeth - rabbit's case hinges on Llama and Zombie distancing from each other all game.

I've now just cut a bit out of the huge asset post.

Are we to believe Zombie had the presence of mind to distance herself from one teammate while simultaneously making the biggest newbie mistake ever to try to save another? I just can't see it. A reread of all of Zombie's posts confirm my thinking... her posts about llama do not read as distancing.

I think you make a very good point here.

#2155

rabbit8 wrote: No, I agree with LC who knew what votes he caused to be made. Pay attention at least. If you're going to be an idiot about it I can't engage with you.

Give idiots more credit, Didn't you hear about the idiot who won the big poker game? He had a fool house.

#2156

thellama73 wrote:
rabbit8 wrote: No, I agree with LC who knew what votes he caused to be made. Pay attention at least. If you're going to be an idiot about it I can't engage with you.
Give idiots more credit, Didn't you hear about the idiot who won the big poker game? He had a fool house.

Ok, I laughed at this one.

PonySparkPrime · #2157

I'm not golden, but at least that explains why you are being so defensive towards me.

#2158

rabbit8 wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:.If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter.
Blindfaeth - rabbit's case hinges on Llama and Zombie distancing from each other all game.

I've now just cut a bit out of the huge asset post.

Are we to believe Zombie had the presence of mind to distance herself from one teammate while simultaneously making the biggest newbie mistake ever to try to save another? I just can't see it. A reread of all of Zombie's posts confirm my thinking... her posts about llama do not read as distancing.
No, I agree with LC who knew what votes he caused to be made. Pay attention at least. If you're going to be an idiot about it I can't engage with you.

Yes but why would LC be interested in helping us?

He argued with you way more than he argued with llama, I think you are underplaying this fact.

PonySparkPrime · #2159

The quote I pulled was from day one, before there was any night phase for LC to control a vote in?

#2160

blindfaeth wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:.If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter.
Blindfaeth - rabbit's case hinges on Llama and Zombie distancing from each other all game.

I've now just cut a bit out of the huge asset post.

Are we to believe Zombie had the presence of mind to distance herself from one teammate while simultaneously making the biggest newbie mistake ever to try to save another? I just can't see it. A reread of all of Zombie's posts confirm my thinking... her posts about llama do not read as distancing.
No, I agree with LC who knew what votes he caused to be made. Pay attention at least. If you're going to be an idiot about it I can't engage with you.
Yes but why would LC be interested in helping us?

He argued with you way more than he argued with llama, I think you are underplaying this fact.

Then he got set up and chose to make a case on Lama. Why does this fact not sink in. All game I was giving him shit. All game. He gets set up. Makes a case on Lama, out of no where. Still says I should be lynched in that post, I said as much about that, you can read my post. I think he brought me up more because I was on his ass all game and would not mind seeing me lynched either way.

Why after being set up would he make a case on Lama about how lama has been voting? WHY? Why if he did not care just accuse me of weird voting? Because he knows none of my votes have been forced. But he knows what votes were made and forced.

Are we really going to believe he did not want revenge for that set up and for Zomba outing him?

Why did he not make a direct case on Zomba? At least ask yourselves these questions.

#2161

Lena Hyena wrote:I'm not golden, but at least that explains why you are being so defensive towards me.

That's what Golden would say

PonySparkPrime · #2162

I recognise that you are playing a game to not be lynched and all power to you, but I have to say it's quite uncomfortable that you are calling me an idiot and maybe that's the kind of thing you say just because you think that's what golden would cope with, but I would please ask you to be civil with me.

I feel as though the reason I pulled for llama not being bad is quite solid.

#2163

Lena Hyena wrote:The quote I pulled was from day one, before there was any night phase for LC to control a vote in?

Who cares? Are we going to say LC is too dumb to see who is voting the way he makes them way into the game when he made the fucking case about how Lama was voting. Damn, that's just nuts.

PonySparkPrime · #2164

OK< I'm stepping away. I'll be back in a while.

#2165

Lena Hyena wrote:I recognise that you are playing a game to not be lynched and all power to you, but I have to say it's quite uncomfortable that you are calling me an idiot and maybe that's the kind of thing you say just because you think that's what golden would cope with, but I would please ask you to be civil with me.

I feel as though the reason I pulled for llama not being bad is quite solid.

And I think you're an idiot for that. Golden or not. But I know it's you. ANd I don't think Golden is an idiot. I think this sock puppet is.

#2166

Sounds like rabbit thinks this sock has really put her foot in it. She could use a leg up, or else she'd better toe the line. He must think she's a real heel. Personally, I think she's got a lot of sole.

#2167

I'm tempted to crusade your lynch just to get rid of all the negativity, bad or not.

#2168

blindfaeth wrote:I'm tempted to crusade your lynch just to get rid of all the negativity, bad or not.

How is a rabbit like an electron?
They're both small and negative.

#2169

The fact that this Lena person was hesitant to trust Eloh, and hesitant to believe Ninja as a baddie makes their opinion pretty uncompelling to me.

I still don't see baddie rabbit. Conveniently, the only other person who didn't see baddie rabbit was BR, who is now dead.

Llama is the baddie. He's being pretty fucking blatant about it. Why is no one else seeing this?

#2170

Poll Correction: Lena Hyena is on the poll. If you have voted, please vote again.

PonySparkPrime · #2171

Last post for tonight...

Through all rabbit's stuff I finally think I get what he is saying - that LC manipulated llama's vote at some point, and then told the thread. So I will read LC tomorrow.

Honestly rabbit, all your stuff I thought you were just arguing about Zombie's vote for you being controlled. I'm not the kind of person who picks up on little hints - I need you to actually tell me what you are talking about. I may be an idiot - so sorry. I'm not who you think I am and I wasn't ready for a blistering attack, so please go a little bit easier on me tomorrow, ok?

#2172

Canucklehead wrote:The fact that this Lena person was hesitant to trust Eloh, and hesitant to believe Ninja as a baddie makes their opinion pretty uncompelling to me.

I still don't see baddie rabbit. Conveniently, the only other person who didn't see baddie rabbit was BR, who is now dead.

Llama is the baddie. He's being pretty fucking blatant about it. Why is no one else seeing this?

I can see it going either way. Whoever it was did a clever job.

PonySparkPrime · #2173

You know what, I did it... and....

Rabbit is right. LC basically outed a baddie on his way out the door.

One option is we could all vote llama quickly and see if the game ends?

#2174

I want to play.

PonySparkPrime · #2175

Voted llama. Seems obvious to me now.

#2176

Canucklehead wrote:The fact that this Lena person was hesitant to trust Eloh, and hesitant to believe Ninja as a baddie makes their opinion pretty uncompelling to me.

I still don't see baddie rabbit. Conveniently, the only other person who didn't see baddie rabbit was BR, who is now dead.

Llama is the baddie. He's being pretty fucking blatant about it. Why is no one else seeing this?

I agree with this completely

#2177

Lena Hyena wrote:You know what, I did it... and....

Rabbit is right. LC basically outed a baddie on his way out the door.

One option is we could all vote llama quickly and see if the game ends?

Well, i said it 2 pages ago and rabbit was saying it to you.

No one seemed to pick up on it except me and canuck

#2178

And i understand how rabbit would be frustrated if someone not playing would came and say he is a baddie. I know I would feel frustrated too

PonySparkPrime · #2179

OK, now I picked up on it too, and now I'm waiting around to see if everyone just votes llama... like I'd just do it and get it over with. Why wait a whole day if you think it will end the game?

You know, I'm slow and all that. I got there in the end.

#2180

Sophie wrote:And i understand how rabbit would be frustrated if someone not playing would came and say he is a baddie. I know I would feel frustrated too

You said a mouthful, toots. What's the only kind of ration you want fewer of? A frustration.

#2181

Lena Hyena wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:Okay. I've been reading and reading and I need to just make a decision.

I don't like Rabbit's playstyle (I think it's abusive), Rabbit seems sophisticated enough to run a chaos baddie campaign (which is what I think is happening), Golden thinks Rabbit is bad and I'm trusting Golden (partly because of the curse), LC things Rabbit is misguided (or bad).

I don't like MM's playstyle (I think it's basically missing), MM deflected a lynch to a baddie somehow (possibly to make himself look civ - possibly by accident), ...you know...I'm convincing myself that I want to vote for Rabbit. This is not the first time I have brought up Rabbit. If you want more info re my vote, read my previous posts.

**VOTES RABBIT**
Zombie pre Golden lynch - when I believe she knew she could do and say whatever she wanted and Golden would still be lynched.

Zomberella12 wrote: RIP Golden. Even when cursed, you were a helpful civ. I will miss you.

If MP had a switch, why did he need to vote Rabbit to save himself? This result makes me think that the baddies are experienced (and possibly sadistic) players. Having Aces flip bad, made Golden look good. Now having Golden flip good, makes MP look bad. Maybe there's more than one lynch switch power. This is too much thinking for a Friday night.

Here is my sexy song.
http://youtu.be/5Il1ivUR-2E
Zombie post Golden lynch - why did this make MP look bad as opposed to rabbit - someone with nearly as many votes. Given the first lynch, wouldn't the baddies be just as worried if they had the second most votes?

linki - fingersplints. I trust Golden's words because he was civ, although I don't know how much of what he had to say was fact and how much speculation. I also trust the words of those whose role I think I have figured out as specific civilian roles. Elo and Niju are not included in those people.

lol, Ok so she wants me to get lynched. What's your point? You think this was her distancing herself from me?
Yeah, OK. Right.
This is funny, because... ?

The only day she voted for you is a day I believe she already knew who was being lynched. If you want any more evidence of the fact zombie knew who was going to be lynched, read zombie's posts around the day two lynch... they read very much as a fiction designed to sound surprised. Zombie's posts around the day 2 lynch leave me in no doubt that the day 2 lynch was a baddie lynch switch.

At this point I make my suspect list based entirely on the posts of zombie from the beginning of the game to the point she died. I feel like her posts make MP and llama very likely civvies, while I think of the three I suspect could be bad (sophie, bea, rabbit) they make you look the worst. I'm not convinced I'm right - but laughing at me isn't going to help you look good. Actually your first two posts make me think your agenda is to discredit me. I don't agree with you that llama is bad. What else have you got?

Lena, its weird you say you base your suspect list based ENTIRELY on zombas post, and mp and llama are cleared cause she went after them, but im not clear even if she went after me?

because she did affirm that i was a baddie.
And i disagree with basing your suspect list ENTIRELY of one thing one player did, but specially entirely on one player suspects. You do know that theres something called "distancing" that baddies do all the time, right?

So i dont think we should be basing our suspects on who zomba did or didnt suspect. It could be faked. But its weird you said you based your suspects ENTIRELY on her posts, you left out mp and llama from your suspects, but somehow you inlude me in them, even when she said i was a badfir. It seems incoherent.

#2182

*Badfir: baddie

Sorry, im on phone

#2183

Oh sure, why not. Llama today, rabbit tomorrow. I like LCs list.

#2184

blindfaeth wrote:Oh sure, why not. Llama today, rabbit tomorrow. I like LCs list.

Hopefully, there will be no tomorrow.

PonySparkPrime · #2185

Sophie - I just don't have a reason to think you are civ. To be clear.

There are people I think are civs (bf, splints, MP, myself, canuck)
There are people I was making a case on for better or worse on the back zombies posts (llama, rabbit)
You and bea I have no idea either way.

Except, right now, I think rabbit is right that lynching llama will probably end the game, or at least nab us a weasel, and that's what matters to me for now.

PonySparkPrime · #2186

And honestly - I'm just an incoherent idiot, ok? Excited for the opportunity to possibly win when I have no right to it.

#2187

Canucklehead wrote:The fact that this Lena person was hesitant to trust Eloh, and hesitant to believe Ninja as a baddie makes their opinion pretty uncompelling to me.

I still don't see baddie rabbit. Conveniently, the only other person who didn't see baddie rabbit was BR, who is now dead.

Llama is the baddie. He's being pretty fucking blatant about it. Why is no one else seeing this?

At least give me credit canuck. I ve been saying llama is bad and talking about the timing vote thing and about lcs case for a while now, but no one was picking iy up. Llama wasnt responding either. Rabbit has been sayinh llama is bad too. I think you are not the only one saying this.

Fs and bf were the ones backing up llama as a civvie, and since they are among the most trusted, it might seem that was how the thread was thinking.
Then lena came and went in that direction too.

Anyways, i wonder were bea is, she hasnt speaked in a loong time, am i right?

#2188

Lena Hyena wrote:And honestly - I'm just an incoherent idiot, ok? Excited for the opportunity to possibly win when I have no right to it.

I don't think you're an incoherent idiot

and if you are who I thnk you are, then you deserve this win as much as anyone

#2189

blindfaeth wrote:Oh sure, why not. Llama today, rabbit tomorrow. I like LCs list.

I think theres only one baddie left, except someone has been recruited

#2190

Why do you think someone has been recruited?

PonySparkPrime · #2191

Sofie! I haven't been recruited.

You are way overcomplicating this. Which I probably deserve.

#2192

Lena Hyena wrote:Sophie - I just don't have a reason to think you are civ. To be clear.

There are people I think are civs (bf, splints, MP, myself, canuck)
There are people I was making a case on for better or worse on the back zombies posts (llama, rabbit)
You and bea I have no idea either way.

Except, right now, I think rabbit is right that lynching llama will probably end the game, or at least nab us a weasel, and that's what matters to me for now.

And you had a reason to think llama or mp were civ? I dont see how zomba posts cleared them and not me.

Fwiw: im not saying you are incoherent, im saying thats incoherent that you apparently use one criteria to detetmine whos bad or civ, but dont apply that criteria equally. If the criteria was "who zomba said was bad" (criteria i dont agree with anyway) then i dont have to be in your list. This didnt make sense and i said it.

#2193

Canucklehead wrote:Why do you think someone has been recruited?

I dont. Im just assuring bf that im as sure as i can be that niju was a baddie

#2194

Lena Hyena wrote: Except, right now, I think rabbit is right that lynching llama will probably end the game, or at least nab us a weasel, and that's what matters to me for now.

Rabbit is trying to weasel out of being lynched, despite the stoat case on him. He's just martin time. Vote rabbit, it's his neck ermine.

PonySparkPrime · #2195

Sophie, we have just not seen eye to eye this game.

I can see now that you are civilian... but trust me when I say that it has nothing to do with your game. I do not see your normal civvie game. I never did from day one to now.

Sometimes that's just how it goes. My bad. But it's not because I'm recruited.

Also - I think you are wilfully ignoring the fact that I was talking about zomba's posts in respect of distinguishing who I thought was bad out of MP, llama and rabbit. I wasn't even looking at them in respect of you, at all.

But we can get an RM victory right here, I think.

#2196

A guy walks into a bar and says "did you hear the one about the guy who relentlessly tried to get his own teammate killed all game?"
The bartender scoffs. "That's a crazy story. It would never happen. What are you, some kind of loon?"
The guy says "No, I'm a rabbit. Loons drink next door."

#2197

What do you call a Rabbit who's partnered with a white squid, a white playing card, and a white zombie?
A bunny and ivory.

#2198

You know what this game needs?
A hare cut.

:drums:

#2199

Lena Hyena wrote:Last post for tonight...

Through all rabbit's stuff I finally think I get what he is saying - that LC manipulated llama's vote at some point, and then told the thread. So I will read LC tomorrow.

Honestly rabbit, all your stuff I thought you were just arguing about Zombie's vote for you being controlled. I'm not the kind of person who picks up on little hints - I need you to actually tell me what you are talking about. I may be an idiot - so sorry. I'm not who you think I am and I wasn't ready for a blistering attack, so please go a little bit easier on me tomorrow, ok?

Good lord, I don't actually think you're an idiot. This is how I talk. If BF wants to lynch me for that, fine. A little honesty is a good thing. I will be negative, its going to happen. Deal with it people. I don't for on second think any of you are actually stupid idiots, Ye morons.

Glad you're finally getting what I'm putting down.

#2200

Knock knock.
Who's there?
Manny.
Manny who?
Manny-pulative Rabbit.

How About Now?