Who Framed Roger Rabbit? [Day 10]

#2252

Damn you LC. RIP Lama. I'm still not bad.

#2253

Sorry lama, should have followed my gut

and voted baddie rabbit

PonySparkPrime · #2254

rabbit8 wrote:Damn you LC. RIP Lama. I'm still not bad.

Well, who do you think is bad?

#2255

Wow. I am actually shocked. I'm so sorry, llama.

I have no idea who the last baddie is. I kinda turned my brain off because I thought this game was done.

#2256

Lena Hyena wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Damn you LC. RIP Lama. I'm still not bad.
Well, who do you think is bad?

Me. I look the most suspicious right now. I would not actually argue with anyone who wants to lynch me next. I'm a civvie though and I will fight until I'm lynched or Nked.

I'm going to have to go to MP. I know I did not switch the lynch. Don't listen to me though, Honestly. I'm so rusty I have done nothing but hinder the civvies all game. I will get back in the groove though.

#2257

Sorry everyone, i was wrong about llama and pretty much everything in this game, and i feel kinda disapointed in myself after llama turned out good. Like canuck said, its like my brain is in off mode.

Ill probably feel better tomorrow and read thread with a fresh mind.

#2258

RIP llama - I'm sorry I was wrong.

#2259

OK, finally caught up. Sorry folks. Life's been busy, and Death Note has taken most of my free time.

RIP Llama. That sucks.

I'm not really too sure where to look after this, but rabbit and bea would be my best guesses. I think I need to reexamine some of the thread though.

#2260

rabbit8 wrote: Be always seem to fly under the radar and seem civvie to me. I think because I hate Diggs but like Bea and she makes me like Diggs some. So she always appears civve to me. But she does need to post more.

What the hell kinda soft-hearted, hippie-dippy crap is THIS?!?!?! Aren't you supposed to be dead or something??? Well shit on me...since you've decided to disgrace us with your presence once more, let me welcome you back with a bit of advice: You might wanna ease back on those pain meds a bit, bunny-boy. People may actually begin to mistakenly think you have a warm and sunny disposition (possibly even a soul)...but *I* know better. At your core, you're just a bastard...a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling...but I digress...Feel free to drag your Texans-lovin' carcass back into whatever dank crevice you crawled out of which is most likely your own ass since that's where your head has been firmly rooted for the majority of our acquaintanceship!

#2261

I don't mind being dead anymore...

#2262

BigDamnHero wrote:
rabbit8 wrote: Be always seem to fly under the radar and seem civvie to me. I think because I hate Diggs but like Bea and she makes me like Diggs some. So she always appears civve to me. But she does need to post more.
What the hell kinda soft-hearted, hippie-dippy crap is THIS?!?!?! Aren't you supposed to be dead or something??? Well shit on me...since you've decided to disgrace us with your presence once more, let me welcome you back with a bit of advice: You might wanna ease back on those pain meds a bit, bunny-boy. People may actually begin to mistakenly think you have a warm and sunny disposition (possibly even a soul)...but *I* know better. At your core, you're just a bastard...a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling...but I digress...Feel free to drag your Texans-lovin' carcass back into whatever dank crevice you crawled out of which is most likely your own ass since that's where your head has been firmly rooted for the majority of our acquaintanceship!

#2263

rabbit8 wrote:
BigDamnHero wrote:
rabbit8 wrote: Be always seem to fly under the radar and seem civvie to me. I think because I hate Diggs but like Bea and she makes me like Diggs some. So she always appears civve to me. But she does need to post more.
What the hell kinda soft-hearted, hippie-dippy crap is THIS?!?!?! Aren't you supposed to be dead or something??? Well shit on me...since you've decided to disgrace us with your presence once more, let me welcome you back with a bit of advice: You might wanna ease back on those pain meds a bit, bunny-boy. People may actually begin to mistakenly think you have a warm and sunny disposition (possibly even a soul)...but *I* know better. At your core, you're just a bastard...a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling...but I digress...Feel free to drag your Texans-lovin' carcass back into whatever dank crevice you crawled out of which is most likely your own ass since that's where your head has been firmly rooted for the majority of our acquaintanceship!

See...I told you he missed you too.

#2264

Here is my take on the people left.

If blindfaeth, fingerslpints or canuck are baddies...they are the best i ve seen. I just cant see any of them being baddie for a number of reasons. So if by endgame i find out one of them is...well, ill aplaud them, great work

Rabbit: i honestly have been reading rabbit as civvie all game, but that doesnt mean anything since my ibstincts are way way off . The truth is thats he has been stickinh his head out, discussing, getting frustrated when accused (civvie attitudes imo). But, i also know rabbit is a smart, ballsy player, and he could also play like this as a baddie. Also, many people here suspect him, so i have to take that in count.

Bea: her attitude the whole game was typical of a baddie, imo. Or at least how i would behave as a baddie. She didnt stick her head out too much, wasnt involved in the discussions, just came here and voted and dissapeared. Imo, this is a suspicion attitude and makes her the most suspicion of the 3.

Mp: besides the lynch in where golden died instead of him, i dont have much to find mp suspicion. And recently bf realized the tie thing after lc died. So if it was a tie, and baddies chose who to kill, maybe mp had nothing to do with it. I dont know, ill have to reread, but right now he seems the least suspicion of the 3.

So, my order of suspicion is : 1.bea 2.rabbit 3.mp

But im open to listen and follow you guys cases cause the truth is i sucked this game and might had it all wrong

#2265

Lena Hyena wrote:@Sophie - I know you don't trust me all that much, but...

Go back to the posts Zomberella posted around the Golden lynch. Before, she voted rabbit (when I believe she knew Golden was getting lynched). After, she immediately said 'this doesn't make MP look good'. As though part of the baddie plan was to put the heat straight on MP. It didn't work because MP sounded civ in his soliloquy.

I don't think Zomberella was practising any distancing. We now know she wasn't from llama all along (which was my instinct reading her posts). She called Aces a huge asset. I don't credit that kind of distancing to her in her first baddie game at all.

I will have to look into zomb posts at that stage to see exactly what you mean. Im not sure i understand: zomba voted rabbit cause she knew golden was getting lynched ans that was her distancing thing?
For that to happen, it means they should have know lc was the judge as early as day 2. Maybe they had a rolechecker?

Im understanding anything or are way off? Can you explain this zomba-rabbit better to me ? Cause im not sure i follow

Anyways, bbl

#2266

rabbit8 wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Damn you LC. RIP Lama. I'm still not bad.
Well, who do you think is bad?

Me. I look the most suspicious right now. I would not actually argue with anyone who wants to lynch me next. I'm a civvie though and I will fight until I'm lynched or Nked.

I'm going to have to go to MP. I know I did not switch the lynch. Don't listen to me though, Honestly. I'm so rusty I have done nothing but hinder the civvies all game. I will get back in the groove though.

What do u mean "you didnt switch the lynch"? We ve been talking about a tie here, it was a tie between you and mp so,according to host, no one should have died. You mean switch the lynch from no one to golden? Im not sure i follow

#2267

Well I know rabbit will have something to say about it. lol. I'm not trying to deduce anything from this analysis, but I can already tell in the new game that started that bea is acting completely different there.

#2268

This one got away from me - that one was shiney and new. Not a sign of allugnment in any way. I spent 4 hours last night reading death note Mafia this thread and the other game. Way more time than I had to spare tbh

Lynch me if you must. I have nothing to add to my defense - you still wont net a weasel - you will just Lynch an uninvolved civ. That's fair - I prolly deserve it.

#2269

Llama! I'm glad you're finally dead! All of my wildest dreams have come true!

#2270

Zomberella12 wrote:Llama! I'm glad you're finally dead! All of my wildest dreams have come true!

I love you too, Zomba.

#2271

bea wrote:This one got away from me - that one was shiney and new. Not a sign of allugnment in any way. I spent 4 hours last night reading death note Mafia this thread and the other game. Way more time than I had to spare tbh

Lynch me if you must. I have nothing to add to my defense - you still wont net a weasel - you will just Lynch an uninvolved civ. That's fair - I prolly deserve it.

If you are a civvie like I think, don't do this bea. If we do not lynch correctly tomorrow, we lose another civvie and then have a toon kill after that. We need to work together and get this right next lynch.

#2272

Ugh I just did a quick skim of bea's posts and now I'm super paranoid. Shouldn't have done it

#2273

This game is still so awesome to read, I just can't wait to see what happens next!

PonySparkPrime · #2274

fingersplints wrote:
bea wrote:This one got away from me - that one was shiney and new. Not a sign of allugnment in any way. I spent 4 hours last night reading death note Mafia this thread and the other game. Way more time than I had to spare tbh

Lynch me if you must. I have nothing to add to my defense - you still wont net a weasel - you will just Lynch an uninvolved civ. That's fair - I prolly deserve it.
If you are a civvie like I think, don't do this bea. If we do not lynch correctly tomorrow, we lose another civvie and then have a toon kill after that. We need to work together and get this right next lynch.

So, do we think there could be a civvie kill tonight? Or just no kill at all? I know the weasels didn't get a kill on night 6, which was interesting... it would be good if there was no kill tonight.

#2275

BigDamnHero wrote:
rabbit8 wrote: Be always seem to fly under the radar and seem civvie to me. I think because I hate Diggs but like Bea and she makes me like Diggs some. So she always appears civve to me. But she does need to post more.
What the hell kinda soft-hearted, hippie-dippy crap is THIS?!?!?! Aren't you supposed to be dead or something??? Well shit on me...since you've decided to disgrace us with your presence once more, let me welcome you back with a bit of advice: You might wanna ease back on those pain meds a bit, bunny-boy. People may actually begin to mistakenly think you have a warm and sunny disposition (possibly even a soul)...but *I* know better. At your core, you're just a bastard...a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling...but I digress...Feel free to drag your Texans-lovin' carcass back into whatever dank crevice you crawled out of which is most likely your own ass since that's where your head has been firmly rooted for the majority of our acquaintanceship!

#2276

Lena Hyena wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
bea wrote:This one got away from me - that one was shiney and new. Not a sign of allugnment in any way. I spent 4 hours last night reading death note Mafia this thread and the other game. Way more time than I had to spare tbh

Lynch me if you must. I have nothing to add to my defense - you still wont net a weasel - you will just Lynch an uninvolved civ. That's fair - I prolly deserve it.
If you are a civvie like I think, don't do this bea. If we do not lynch correctly tomorrow, we lose another civvie and then have a toon kill after that. We need to work together and get this right next lynch.
So, do we think there could be a civvie kill tonight? Or just no kill at all? I know the weasels didn't get a kill on night 6, which was interesting... it would be good if there was no kill tonight.

There may be a civ kill tonight... And shouldn't be a baddie kill because the judge is dead.

PonySparkPrime · #2277

Yes, I'm wondering if Baby Herman got the judges kill.

Or if that was just coincidence.

I'm not writing off the weasels having gotten the judges kill, at least on some even nights, and that they could have been blocked on night 6 (even though I don't think that was hinted at).

Fingers crossed!

#2278

Well earlier in the game epig clarified the judge would inherit the baddie kill but the baddies would not inherit the judge's. Baby hermans role hints he could have a NK so I doubt it's bc LC died but you could be right.

PonySparkPrime · #2279

I have a theory that Baby Herman may have been responsible for the curses. But I could be wrong as there were no curses yesterday and no obvious reason why Baby Herman would be around to kill on night 6 but not curse on night 7.

Maybe there are just different abilities Baby has and one of them was a kill that could be used at different times.

#2280

I just want to say in advance: I'm sorry, host and fellow players. But I cannot deal with the stress that is associated with mafia at the moment, so just a heads up that I may be a bit absent for the upcoming cycle. I'll see how I feel tomorrow.

#2281

F's - not giving up - just that I know the reality. There is a baddie out there - it ain't me - but also I've had good feels about everyone left. You - wabbit - Sophie and cannuck have.felt most civ to me - but also bff and MP have as well. Idk what to do or say here and I get I've not played my best game.

#2282

Sophie wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Damn you LC. RIP Lama. I'm still not bad.
Well, who do you think is bad?

Me. I look the most suspicious right now. I would not actually argue with anyone who wants to lynch me next. I'm a civvie though and I will fight until I'm lynched or Nked.

I'm going to have to go to MP. I know I did not switch the lynch. Don't listen to me though, Honestly. I'm so rusty I have done nothing but hinder the civvies all game. I will get back in the groove though.

What do u mean "you didnt switch the lynch"? We ve been talking about a tie here, it was a tie between you and mp so,according to host, no one should have died. You mean switch the lynch from no one to golden? Im not sure i follow

Golden had not votes. Why is the world would a player with no votes get lynched if there was no switch. I don't think there was a tie. At least make sense when you make an argument. No host would just arbitrarily lynch someone who had no votes because there was a tie votes. That's absurd and unfair to everyone, including Golden. I would rather argue with Golden all game then to have him unfairly lynched.

This lynch was switch, which is not unfair, its a baddie power. That's should not even be a question IMO. Now if you think I had the baddie switch, lynch me and see I did not.

#2283

I was away this evening. The post is forthcoming.

#2284

Guess we better find three posts to stick in between, then.

#2285

Night 8: You Figured It Out Yet?

No one has been killed. It is now Day 9. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

PonySparkPrime · #2286

Darn, was hoping Herman would help narrow the field.

#2287

Yea, I was also hoping Herman would take out the last baddie

Maybe it was a one time use kill or something

PonySparkPrime · #2288

Last baddie? I'm still not convinced.

No-one of the poll. That's a shame. I hadn't pegged BR in that role. Means I have to rethink.

So I'm taking a massive risk here, and I'm going to throw it all out on the line... because I think I need to.

I am Golden. Yes, I am allowed to say this. Rabbit knows anyway lol. The first lynch was on me. I know exactly how and why that one went down.
The second lynch was absolutely a baddie switch to take me out. And I think it is because I named someone whose baddie game I've pegged before, and I gave them a fright.

I do not see anything civilian about Sophie's game. I've thought she is bad all game. I think her insistence niju is bad is a bluff. I think her stuff about nearly outing herself was a bluff. I think a lot of stuff she has done this game has been a bluff.

I'm going to do my best to go back and show her game for what I think it is over the next 24 hours. I think I only have one shot to get this right.

#2289

Shocking

You are on the poll. interesting

I have someone alive pegged as Benny. I'm also wondering if I was wrong about that or if it was a missed PM.

I'm willing to reconsider Sophie. it's either her or rabbit, but I think rabbit is a civvie likely.

I still think nijuu was bad.

#2290

who do you think is Sophie's teammate if you think two are left?

PonySparkPrime · #2291

I don't know, but why is sophie so adamant niju is bad if she really was? I feel more confident about sophie than anyone else... I mean I could be entirely wrong, of course. Possibly still leaning towards rabbit as her teammate if she has one, but as of right now I feel more confident in a vote for sophie than one for rabbit.

PonySparkPrime · #2292

Splints, given you have someone alive pegged as Benny, are you suggesting you think there could have been a missed pm or a block last night?

PonySparkPrime · #2293

Oh, I should have read lol. Yeah, cos I had someone alive pegged as benny too lol.

PonySparkPrime · #2294

OK, this in as interesting bit I think... Now I'll be honest, this gave me a major ping at the time, because it was so far off the beaten path of what everyone else was talking about at the time - namely, teammates of aces. It sort of came out of nowhere and honestly to me at the time came across like 'I'm trying to look civ'.

Sophie wrote:
Golden wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:.

@sophie - what do you think about MP?
well, im not so sure how to think. Yesterday night i was here doing my reread and start doing a read of only MP posts. He seemed to suggest MM, but vote for bf anyway, just throwing names outhere, you know, when was too early to know where the votes were gonna go. Also he was contributing a lot (i really dont know how MP plays as a baddie, but i usually read people contributing as civvies, cause is fundamentally a civvie behaviour, imo), he also was throwing juliets name outhere (wich makes me think they cant be teammates cause "why would you distance yourself from your teammate so early for no reason?" but, as i type this, recall that in my reading he did say somethging along the way of "if im a baddie i like to distance myself" or something like that -correct me if i wrong- so i dunno) and of course bfs name, never think his case on bf was strong or anything, but he seemed determined to vote for him anyways and did it. Wich, imo, is a bit suspicion, cause in the end its a safe point. He also said he didnt like voting for low posters cause it was the same as randomizing. I dont know, im on the fence about him, im confused. Im him but i really dont know, it could go both ways.

At this point i think one of the baddies have to be one of the quiet ones. I mean, what a better strategy for a baddie than lie low while other people take the spotlight. And, if im not mistaken, there have been people that barely posted. Dom, Canuck, come to mind, but there are probably other. The game already started a couple of days ago and some people didnt either contribute or posted. Suspicion behaviour if you ask me . Gonna go check who are the quiet ones and brb

Sophie is gonna check out low posters. Who can she remember? Dom and Canuck.

Sophie wrote:dom, canuck and bass the clever

have they posted at all? i see dom didnt even vote and canuck and bass voted mm
if they did post (dont remember) have they voiced their suspition?
ill go read what those players have posted

When she does check this out, she also comes back with baddie bass.

Sophie wrote:well, bass the playerrs wrote 11 post, none of them contribute at all to the thread or express his/her thoughts (sorry dont know gender ), he/she said that MM vote was suspicion, and that LC have pointed at the fact that MM have self voted when he was bad, so there. he also said aces vs golden seemed civ vs civ
posted also one "i get what you are saying", one off topic post, one cartoon video and kinda suggested MM could be a baddie with a lynch switch.
anyways bass, do you have an opinion about any of the players? any suspicion?

*off to read the other 2*

When she reads back on bass - she asks him to come to the party with opinions and suspicions. Gives him the opportunity to contribute.

Sophie wrote:lol, so i just checked dom posts.

Couldnt find Dom in the thread so had to go to the search function and find users posts. When i read them, the page showed me a lot of posts on Film Director (i assume other game thats been played, cause those posts are from today, yesterday, etc) and none of this game. Oh well, yes, it showed me, 1, 2, THREE total post that said literally this:

post 1: hi everyone

post 2: raise your hand if you are bad

post 3: Hey guys, I'm at the top of page 4 right now. I'll catch up ASAP

after that he stopped posting and that was before the vote! he didnt even vote!

anyway, wth? isnt this strange for anyone else??? i mean, its not a time thing, cause he certainly haves time to post in the other game. so he doenst seem to wanna to post or contribute to this game at all. i find it weird no one called him on it either. anyways, i find this behaviour extremely suspicion

anyone else with an opinion on this?

Compare that to her approach on dom, where she asked the rest of us what we thought of him! And followed shortly after by:

Sophie wrote:yeah, it called my attention that seemingly deffense of juliets. i gotta go reread your case, and get bakc on you on that

what do u think about low posters? dom specifically?

That was my first set of pings. The reason I saw this was because, at the time, there was an argument about who people saw as the clinching vote against MM. Rabbit thought it was LC. I had a much different view, I was looking at the people coming in around 4-6. In particular in that time I noted Bass followed by Niju, and that pinged me for both of them. I was immediately looking closely at both of those two and any references to them. When Sophie made these posts above, I got this feeling of 'not civ sophie' and possibly her being a teammate of bass.

PonySparkPrime · #2295

Oh, I should add to that, the infamous 'dunno what gender bass is' (the very kind of distancing technique I know bf likes to look for.)

#2296

Why can't Sophie and nijuu be teammates?

PonySparkPrime · #2297

So, up to the point where sophie goes after low posters, she really hasn't given a lot of her own suspicions at all. She has been busy and catching up a lot (a lot), has agreed with my cases, and came in at the last moment to vote aces when he was many votes behind.

But the moment I call her out this is what I get:

Sophie wrote:i didnt do it for misdirection, i think that low posters are a danger for the civvies, they dont help, dont try to build cases or look at suspish people, and can easily be lying low baddies. i do think one of the baddies is a lying low civvie. i stick to that.

now, if you see bad soph because of that and ignore the fact that i ve been badie hunting all game then

Soph has been baddie hunting 'all game'!!!

It's this kind of overreaction, over-credit of her own game that I think is bad sophie. Good sophie is humble sophie.

linki @ splints - they could. I'm not ruling it out.

PonySparkPrime · #2298

Sophie wrote:
Golden wrote:Lhcn stll n my sspcn lst. Lrdy sd hr b4 jlts/Zmbd @ nght.

Hv bn hvng bd flng bt Sph whl gm. Bt ws mgnfd by Sphs psts n lst fw hrs.

@zmbs. Pls! Trnslt :gldn:!
part of me want you to lynch me while on a a curse on a day 2 of a game that you brought me to after 2 years of not playing you will feel like crap if that happens , considering who i am :P

on the other hand, i love playing with all this people i havent seen in so long, and think i can be very useful in this game, and would love to win as a civvie, so you could just stop naming me and put an end to all this ridiculousness

Sophie bravado! Also read like bad sophie to me...

Sophie wrote:So mp are u saying that baddies wasted one of their supposed lynch saves in a civvie to make you look bad?
Seriously?

This was the first in a series of posts where sophie went very hard at MP for my lynch... please do a readback, you will see sophie was very passionate for the lynch of MP.

PonySparkPrime · #2299

Sophie briefly backs off MP

Sophie wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I really thought MP's reaction was genuine and over the top. He flipped out about being lynched early as a civ again, socked out, came back apologized and then went mad with listing suspects and why. Then he didn't get lynched. I have seen this done once before by LC. It was an honest reaction by him in that game and I feel it was an honest reaction by MP in this game. No way MP reacted so embarrassingly (no offense MP) if he knew he would be saved. No way.
Ok, im starting to see your point here. Im also not very familiar with mp playstyle, so dont know ifhe eouldfake this. I just find it weird that baddies would waste their lynch in a civ, but after reading beas theory and reading ur sureness here, i dont think we should be looking MP side for this lynch. Rhis could have been a set up and we could be dealing with very twisted baddies this game

But then right after the canuck 'lynch':

Sophie wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I'd just like to point out that all four votes for Canuck were all in a row between 10:23 and 10:27 when fs voted for mp. That's four in a row within four minutes, for someone who previously had little to no discussion and no votes even though bea expressed concern with the vote and br made a comment about not spreading the vote.
Agree.

this all seems so fishy.

Also, it DOES occur to me a way that this lynch didnt happened, just reading the roles seems pretty obvious

it doesnt make MP and company look good

i think im back thinking MP is bad, he makes me go back and forth with his reactions, and there are other things as well

linki: am illon people

i hope his team doesnt try to kill me tonight

Note the bit I underlined. Now my first instinct when I saw that Canuck survived was definitely that I thought there were solid civilian reasons why it might have occurred, so I'm not sure how sophie would come to the view that there was an obvious answer in the roles that 'didn't make MP and company look good' and I'm not sure she was ever pressed on this...

She also agreed with bf that something was fishy about the four votes on canuck when those voters were JC, BR, MP and bea... none of whom (if soph is bad) are likely to be her teammates.

PonySparkPrime · #2300

More things that just do not read in any way like civvie sophie to me... 'lynch me then' 'nightkill me then' 'lets see how leading a lynch against me works out for you' and 'the civvies will suffer a lot if i die'

Sophie wrote:it just occured to me that maybe MP and juliets are on the baddie team, even when they did kinda mentioned eachother, i dont know. im finding juliets and mp suspicion again, JUST like after aces lynch.

just throwing that outhere in case they wanna kill me tonight

Sophie wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Sophie, I am not bad, and I don't think juliets is either. Why are you pushing this nonsense?
so for me to stop this nonsense, maybe your team has to kill me tonight

OR

you and juliets could push for me lynch tomorrow and when my role is revelaed, civvies will then know they have to lynch you next

in any case it could be over easily

Sophie wrote:you survived a lynch and a civvie got lynched instead of you!
you are acting as if that never happened

you seem to be throwing civvie names outhere (bf first, who im totally seeing civvie this game) me then, being subtly joined by juliets, you seem to be playing the "offended civvie"card. Im not buying it, im smelling baddie

im sorry if my instincts are wrong, i made a mistake when i thought you might not be the baddie, i made a mistake after not playing for so long, and seeing people vouching for you

maybe some of those people are teammate of yours? i dont know

im entitled to think whoever i think is bad, you are entitled to suspect me, like you clearly did. you are entitled to push a lynch against me. Lets see how that works for you in the end.

Sophie wrote:why are so many people vouching for MP? that makes me nervous, first BR and LC, then bea, am probably missing soeone

whaths the rest of the people take on MP?

all i gotta say about me is im civvie, it might sounded that i contradicted mtself, but i just made a mistake i cant explain in the thread, im just saying the civvies will sufer a lot if i die, but, then again, it could help the case cause then civvies will know who to lynch next. im ok to being killed, i dont think i will be offendidly (thats probably isnt even a word) defeinding myself on the thread or pulling quotes and posts. Im civvie but if you dont wanna believe me its fine. I trust it will be ok in the end and the civvies left will do whats gotta be done

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