Harry Stephen Keeler [ENDGAME]

[rabbit8]

Long Con and rabbit are you both able to talk today?

I am.

No Death, good.

[S~V~S]

Top Posters (I doubt they silenced A Person, lol):

Metalmarsh89 160 Dead
Golden 155 Talking
Epignosis 124 Talking
Turnip Head 120
S~V~S 109 Talking
rabbit8 105 Talking
Long Con

So it is possibly someone else, but likely LC or TH. Both usually post overnight, so we should know soonish. I also wonder if TH could have been silenced, since Epi was insanified. They both had a similar suspicion. I would guess either they are protecting Liz with an implied frame or actually framing Liz.

The post in the NP about the will also leads me to be more leery of Zomba. This post intrigues me immensely. After I read it, I PMed the host to double check that I had the will. And I did. So either it is another will or...

I have a theory that the person who was supposed to be NKed may have been me since the killer is supposedly in possession of the will in that message; had I died, the BB of Bremen WOULD have had the will. The baddies can't steal items, they have to kill for them. Now there is not a gossip/message to the thread type role. So it must be a function of the Doctor, or of Gilchrist. Who is the person the message purports to be the writer of the will.

I really, really doubt Llama would allow Gilchrist to make this post, if it is his power, since a PLAYER name has been attached to the will. So I think this is a message from the baddies, tbh. The main sticking point here is that how would they know the real Gilchrist would not say, "SHENANIGANS!!!"

Have not figured that out yet.

[S~V~S]

*Waits to be pelted with rotten vegetables*

[LizKeen]

I am very glad noone is dead and that I haven't been silenced.


I've gone back through all of rabbit's posts now and what caught me on Day 1 were these things

I say we lynch LC right away. He is always evil, right?

I'm just kidding.

I thought it possible LC was a teammate and you made this joke to distance yourself

I purposely put a target on myself early and often. I will this game when I get a chance. It's helpful to baddie and civvie games. Why would you think it's not?

I thought this an odd thing to say

I will likely vote for one of BF or Golden so I don't have to read this buddy cop shit all game. Frankly, it's annoying.

This didn't seem the most logical reason to vote either one

So I will have to vote when I wake up. I will be leaving for the states and will not be around for the lynch, I think. So my best vote right now would be, Epi.........

You're next post after this was:

I have to vote now. BF.

The further along I read your posts though my suspicion of you has gone way down as you participated more, I started to understand your sarcasm, and you've been pretty consistent. Sorry I kept everyone waiting so long just to come up with this but I just had a chance to re-read all his posts.


As for Vompatti, well, this is the sum total of her posts this game:

I can't afford any items until I get my next governemnt moeny.

Hello everyone! So glad to be a part of this! I do not currently have any personal experience but will be sure to join the discussion later!

Metalmarsh89 has yet to post in this game. Is he aware that he's playing?

I find it highly suspicious that you claim to know who has posted and who has not, as if you had browsed through every page of the thread (and for what purpose?).

MP is a confirmed civ.

MP is a confirmed civ.

Did you read that in a book?

No I made it up!

Thsi ime is 'ts personal . *Ävptes felfÄ*

wtf iu' m jusat silghtly durnk ,.* (U

^ I wholeheartedly agree. I onlly selkf-voted for eth lulz.

I definitely don't want to baddie hunt. In fact as always I want the baddies to win.

TFW no BF

tl;dr -- i wouldn't mind a hot blonde beast

FUCK! Poor dead me.

No. Necrophilia is gross.

You're a conservative and I beg to differ.

FUCK! Poor dead me.

No. Necrophilia is gross.

You're a conservative and I beg to differ.

Bow down to you Authoritarian overlord and commence with the begging.

k

brush your teeth with coal and wait for the results!

I didn't expect to find all these votes for Metalmarsh this morning. I was worried I would have to find someone else to vote for even though I was most suspicious of him, but I think enough people have voted for MM that it's safe for me to vote him. I think he's bad this game.

But here's the problem here, I am not bad.

Anyway, I've changed my mind. I've decided that I will still attempt to prove to the rest of you that TH is bad. I hope at least one person will read it.

I believe you. *votes TH*

Helpful much, you are not.



As for what I "heard" during the night. There was so much debate about info-dumping Day 1 I was trying to get the info out there without being accused of that. And I can't quote it word for word. But I will give a better explanation to try and clear this up. I heard a conversation between two people (I don't know which two). It was clear from their wording one was the doctor. His plan was to send the medicine to the person Zomba voted for. Something was said about 4 votes which I didn't understand. and he thought getting someone lynched would be a simple task. The other person in the convo was going to try and ascertain who might be the easiest person to go after. Then my tubes were stolen.

I'm probably going to catch hell for saying that much but I don't know how else to convince you.

[S~V~S]

What do you think of your main accuser being insanified?

[LizKeen]

So it is possibly someone else, but likely LC or TH. Both usually post overnight, so we should know soonish. I also wonder if TH could have been silenced, since Epi was insanified. They both had a similar suspicion. I would guess either they are protecting Liz with an implied frame or actually framing Liz.

They're definitely NOT protecting me.

[S~V~S]

Do you think you could be the person they thought might be an easy lynch?

[Bass_the_Clever]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

[LizKeen]

MM, that's why I kept saying to be careful.

And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Oh and welcome Bass.

[LizKeen]

Oh, I misunderstood your questions SVS. I don't think I was who they were talking about Night One. I'm curious if anyone heard anything with those tubes last night because I could easily be the target today.

[LizKeen]

I'm running to the grocery and then watching Survivor. BBL

[S~V~S]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Um, no. that is not possible. Well, anything is possible, but that is not true.

And I need to make a clarification; I have no idea if I was a target last night. I do know I was told by the host that my Buddha lost his Silvery Glow last night. I was never told what the silvery glow actually did. I am guessing, not knowing.

Linki, OH, OK I misunderstood you, too. Becasue I thought you meant you heard this last night before they stole your tubes. Like maybe you got a short listen in.

[Epignosis]

MM, that's why I kept saying to be careful.

And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Oh and welcome Bass.

Ds ths mn LzKn wll gt lnchd?

[rabbit8]

Not having to listen to Golden and BF is the most logical vote that can ever be made.

[juliets]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Bass LC did a summary of the will part of this game for you. Take a look at his posts. He explained it well.

[S~V~S]

MM, that's why I kept saying to be careful.

And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Oh and welcome Bass.

Ds ths mn LzKn wll gt lnchd?

I would rather lynch Zomba, tbh. That will story stinks of rotten fish to high hell, IMO. But I also would like to see who turns up silenced today. It has to be either LC or TH imo, and both of them generally post later in the evening. If it is TH, then I am wondering if this is not a frame. Silencing & insanifying her two biggest accusers is a bit overkill, yes?

Linki, Juliets I believe he is referring to the NP which says that Blondie Beastie has the will.

[S~V~S]

I, on the other hand, have red hair, have never been to Bremen and am totally not beast like (at least not in this game )

[Bass_the_Clever]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Bass LC did a summary of the will part of this game for you. Take a look at his posts. He explained it well.

Thanks for reminding me.

[S~V~S]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Bass LC did a summary of the will part of this game for you. Take a look at his posts. He explained it well.

Thanks for reminding me.

You know my baddie game pretty well, Bass. You thinking this is it?

[Epignosis]

MM, that's why I kept saying to be careful.

And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Oh and welcome Bass.

Ds ths mn LzKn wll gt lnchd?

I would rather lynch Zomba, tbh. That will story stinks of rotten fish to high hell, IMO. But I also would like to see who turns up silenced today. It has to be either LC or TH imo, and both of them generally post later in the evening. If it is TH, then I am wondering if this is not a frame. Silencing & insanifying her two biggest accusers is a bit overkill, yes?

Linki, Juliets I believe he is referring to the NP which says that Blondie Beastie has the will.

pgnss ndrstnds wht S~V~S s tlkng abt.

[S~V~S]

That may have to get sigged, so I remember it happened.

[Bass_the_Clever]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Bass LC did a summary of the will part of this game for you. Take a look at his posts. He explained it well.

Thanks for reminding me.

You know my baddie game pretty well, Bass. You thinking this is it?

I'm not really sure yet. I think it would be a ballsy to push to get zomba lynched when you have something to gain from it either way. If she is bad you look good and if she isn't then you get whatever she has. So it's a win win if i'm understanding everything.

[juliets]

MM, that's why I kept saying to be careful.

And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Oh and welcome Bass.

Ds ths mn LzKn wll gt lnchd?

I would rather lynch Zomba, tbh. That will story stinks of rotten fish to high hell, IMO. But I also would like to see who turns up silenced today. It has to be either LC or TH imo, and both of them generally post later in the evening. If it is TH, then I am wondering if this is not a frame. Silencing & insanifying her two biggest accusers is a bit overkill, yes?

Linki, Juliets I believe he is referring to the NP which says that Blondie Beastie has the will.

SVS, when you say the will story stinks of rotten fish you are talking about the will in the NP right? How are you connecting Zomba with that will? Obviously there is something I missed.

[Vompatti]

As for Vompatti, well, this is the sum total of her posts this game: [--]

I love that even after having removed that seemingly feminine quote about quilting I'm still being considered a gril.

[S~V~S]

Yay no one died. Also could SVS be bad and have the will a the same time? I'm only asking because i dont know anything about the will.

Bass LC did a summary of the will part of this game for you. Take a look at his posts. He explained it well.

Thanks for reminding me.

You know my baddie game pretty well, Bass. You thinking this is it?

I'm not really sure yet. I think it would be a ballsy to push to get zomba lynched when you have something to gain from it either way. If she is bad you look good and if she isn't then you get whatever she has. So it's a win win if i'm understanding everything.

It would be ballsy. And you know I am a ballsy player. But so are a lot of other people in this game. We have a regular ballsy-a-thon going on right here. Let me know when you are sure

Linki~ I had a theory, it's a few posts back. I think the baddies posted that, and I think they expected me to be dead, but Buddha saved me

yay Buddha

What do YOU think that post means? I think we should all talk about it. It is very interesting.

[birdwithteeth11]

Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.

I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.

Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.

[juliets]

SVS, I think you missed my question from a little while ago. You said the will I think from the nightpost is a stinky mess and then you tied Zomba to it. I'm missing something because I don't see the connection between Zomba and the new will. Will you explain to me what you meant?

[juliets]

Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.

I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.

Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.

BWT what makes you so sure about Zomba?

[S~V~S]

Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.

I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.

Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.

I agree re the silencing~ and yeah. First I see no one died, and the BBB has a civvies will, and then I get the PM about Buddha I still love him even if he is not so shiny anymore.

It seems a fairly straight progression to me, but

Linki @ Juliets, no I did not miss your question. I directed you to a post I made earlier where I explained my thoughts about the will mentioned in the night post.

[birdwithteeth11]

Yay no death! I'm awfully curious as to who ended up getting silenced for today. I think potentially who it is will say a lot.

I'm still feeling confident about Zomba. Extremely confident even.

Linki: I guess I get that for letting this sit for 10+ minutes. But SVS, your Buddha losing it's silvery sheen could possibly mean you were targeted for a NK and it protected you. At least, that's what I'm thinking.

BWT what makes you so sure about Zomba?

Her reaction to what BF said when he stated what was in the will. Nothing she has said since then has made me feel any better about her. And then with this other will thing from last night, I feel even worse about her now.

[S~V~S]

Top Posters (I doubt they silenced A Person, lol):

Metalmarsh89 160 Dead
Golden 155 Talking
Epignosis 124 Talking
Turnip Head 120
S~V~S 109 Talking
rabbit8 105 Talking
Long Con

So it is possibly someone else, but likely LC or TH. Both usually post overnight, so we should know soonish. I also wonder if TH could have been silenced, since Epi was insanified. They both had a similar suspicion. I would guess either they are protecting Liz with an implied frame or actually framing Liz.

The post in the NP about the will also leads me to be more leery of Zomba. This post intrigues me immensely. After I read it, I PMed the host to double check that I had the will. And I did. So either it is another will or...

I have a theory that the person who was supposed to be NKed may have been me since the killer is supposedly in possession of the will in that message; had I died, the BB of Bremen WOULD have had the will. The baddies can't steal items, they have to kill for them. Now there is not a gossip/message to the thread type role. So it must be a function of the Doctor, or of Gilchrist. Who is the person the message purports to be the writer of the will.

I really, really doubt Llama would allow Gilchrist to make this post, if it is his power, since a PLAYER name has been attached to the will. So I think this is a message from the baddies, tbh. The main sticking point here is that how would they know the real Gilchrist would not say, "SHENANIGANS!!!"

Have not figured that out yet.

This post, Jules. It's a wild theory, but I'm a wild gal.

[S~V~S]

As for Vompatti, well, this is the sum total of her posts this game: [--]

I love that even after having removed that seemingly feminine quote about quilting I'm still being considered a gril.

And honestly, that avatar is the least feminine avi ever. Your old Avi was cute. But maybe not the manliest.

[juliets]

Ok, just be patient with me SVS. I see in this message where you want to be leery of Zomba but I don't see why this will makes you leery of Zomba, as compared to someone else like say Liz. I've read this message 3 times and still i'm too obtuse to get it. Are you saying she's perhaps the doctor or Gilchrist? (Also, I wonder if the poet is the one with the gossip and we just haven't heard any yet). Anyway, if you could help me understand I would really appreciate it.

[S~V~S]

That post says the will is the will of Gilchrist. I don't believe this to be true.

[S~V~S]

And Jules, no one ever said Liz had a will. Or anyone but Zomba.

[juliets]

That post says the will is the will of Gilchrist. I don't believe this to be true.

Oh I see. Thanks.

[Epignosis]

jlts wht r jlts's thghts rgrdng LzKn?

[S~V~S]

nd Zmb?

[Epignosis]

jlts sd ths.

LzKn pstd bt Vmptt. Dd nt dfnd.

[Epignosis]

*bt Vmptt & rbbt8.

[S~V~S]

k

[Golden]

You know what, I buy it's Zombs completely at this point.

I think SVS is right... that she was the nightkill target and that the post in the newspaper was created by the baddies. Here is the thing... if SVS had died, we would all know the baddies had the will, and that post in the newspaper could look simply like the host reporting the news. But it's not the news. SVS still has the will.

So, why would the baddies write it? To effectively role claim Zombs as a civilian. AND make it look like it was llama saying it, so that we would buy it in its entirity. But since it isn't true that the beast has the will, I don't buy that any part of the message was genuine.

[Golden]

I think epi's posts have been self-explanatory so far. I'll try to help out if they get long and hard to understand.

[Epignosis]

I think epi's posts have been self-explanatory so far. I'll try to help out if they get long and hard to understand.

Gd vcblry.

[Dom]

You know what, I buy it's Zombs completely at this point.

I think SVS is right... that she was the nightkill target and that the post in the newspaper was created by the baddies. Here is the thing... if SVS had died, we would all know the baddies had the will, and that post in the newspaper could look simply like the host reporting the news. But it's not the news. SVS still has the will.

So, why would the baddies write it? To effectively role claim Zombs as a civilian. AND make it look like it was llama saying it, so that we would buy it in its entirity. But since it isn't true that the beast has the will, I don't buy that any part of the message was genuine.

I'm sort of following this theory-- but can someone spell it out for me? I've had a rough day and am having a hard time tbh.

I don't think TH is on a team with Epignosis at all. And I have no opinion of Dom at all and that scares the checkout of me tbh.

SVS-- I was hoping you'd respond to my question about this post here.

[birdwithteeth11]

You know what, I buy it's Zombs completely at this point.

I think SVS is right... that she was the nightkill target and that the post in the newspaper was created by the baddies. Here is the thing... if SVS had died, we would all know the baddies had the will, and that post in the newspaper could look simply like the host reporting the news. But it's not the news. SVS still has the will.

So, why would the baddies write it? To effectively role claim Zombs as a civilian. AND make it look like it was llama saying it, so that we would buy it in its entirity. But since it isn't true that the beast has the will, I don't buy that any part of the message was genuine.

I'm sort of following this theory-- but can someone spell it out for me? I've had a rough day and am having a hard time tbh.

Sure! I'll give it a shot.

Basically, I think the baddies had planned to kill SVS. With her being dead, the talk about the will in the night post would have seemed like Zomba was claiming to be a civ. However, their kill did not work, and I'm guessing it has to do with the silver Buddha that SVS had. Since she said it apparently lost it's silvery sheen or something along those lines.

However, with her still being alive, I think the talk of the will in the night post pretty much incriminates Zomba. I'm half-tempted to vote for her now, but I want to wait and see what Zomba has to say about it before I make a final decision.

[Epignosis]

Zmb & LzKn bth mssd vt.

[juliets]

Epi, my thoughts right now on Liz is that she should have spent time defending against the two cases out there on her rather than give us half a case which she then said she didn't believe anymore and a recitation of Vompatti's posts. I'm pretty sure she said she had a case to present prior to the two cases against her but given the situation I think she should have defended first. I'll still hold judgement until I see her response but I'm not liking how it's going so far.

How do you feel about her Epi?

On Zomba I've been trying hard to understand the case on Zomba but with SVS and Golden's recent posts I'm leaning bad on her. I think it went down exactly how Golden said. And i see bwt has responded much in the same vein, saying what SVS and Golden are saying.

Yes and i did notice they both missed the vote.

[birdwithteeth11]

Zmb & LzKn bth mssd vt.

How do missed votes come into play? I can only think of one way...

@llama: Are there penalties for missing a lynch vote?

[Golden]

Dom

1) In llama's night post, there was a story about how the mafia (specifically, the Blonde Beast of Bremen) got his hands onto the will. The will that we know SVS has.
2) However, SVS still has the will, and what's more believes she might have survived a NK attempt.
3) If SVS is right that she survived a NK attempt, that means that if she had NOT survived, the Blonde Beast of Bremen WOULD have had the will.
4) The host wouldn't choose to post a false story in his newspaper for kicks. Its far more likely that a player must have put it there.
5) Simon Grundt could have been a candidate as he would have gotten info straight from the host, except he is bf and dead.
6) It seems unlikely any player would choose to post false information in the thread when it would just be immediately revealed to be false. It makes much more sense that a player would choose to post information in the newspaper that they believe to be true. If the baddies were targetting SVS, they could have posted that story believing that at the time it would be published, it would be true. Therefore, we would read it, and believe that the will was that of gildrick.
7) But because the baddies didn't get the will, it's evident the post is a lie.
8) It follows, then, that the most likely explanation is the baddies did it to try and get heat off zombs.

That good enough? (also linki, if bwt's was enough, then sorry for expanding it so much).