Harry Stephen Keeler [ENDGAME]

#3801

Black Rock wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, BR, maybe it is possibly a Celestial chat~ Some of them may have thought Bullz was bad; Dom as well perhaps. I am not sure you would have voted so late, and voted as you did, had he been a teammate.

Linki~ it could have also been indies plotting to pull their sad asses out of the fire, as well

It's the word "crucify" that made me think it was baddies talking. It sounded uncaring, and baddie-like. Obviously I read it wrong. You are right, it could have been the Celestials. I didn't think it sounded like them. I consider them to be civvie-like.

Linki: Why would the host send me old chat? Lame, I finally thought I had something cool going on and it turns out it was a dud.
Well, it can't have been the baddies since Bullz was a baddie. And I don't know that the Celestials are doing a lot of talking these days Perhaps they were at the point of being past caring at that time.

And yeah, crucify is a harsh word; so is lynch. We kill each other for fun in these games I know I have used that word in chats, I am not a practicing Christian, it's just a word for killing to me.
I know now it couldn't have been the baddies. I guess I just think certain words sound harsher than others and they make me think it's something a baddie would say. I won't make that mistake again.

I'm just feeling a little stupid right now.

I'm from Brooklyn~ you wouldn't believe the conversations I had with my mother in law who grew up in Hells Kitchen. Good Times. Good times full of horrifying words you would slap me for if I said them in front of your kids ;haha;

Don't feel stupid, you should have seen the look on my face when Blindfaeth turned up good, and Zomba didn't

#3802

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Rabbit I'm not bad. I dont know what makes you think that.

If I had to vote right now it would be for you.

#3803

#3804

I will lay out my reason before night is over and I'm dead.

#3805

Well I can't wait for a good laugh. lol

#3806

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I can't wait for a good laugh. lol

OK, Bullz......

#3807

What are anyones thoughts on Bullz vote for Vomps?

Also, Clark.

#3808

Bullz vote for Vomps could have been to give Vomps civ credit or it could have been intended to make Bullz look civ since Vomps has been mentioned as potentially bad. Trouble is, I don't know how to get inside Bullz mind and figure out which it was. There are probably other possibilities as well. Vomps is on my potential baddie list but its really by process of elimination more than anything else.

#3809

Also, I'll go to Clarke St. as well.

#3810

juliets wrote:I thought we all had Bass figured out as a civ what with the switch with MM and other things that happened during that period. Anything specific that changed your mind rabbit?

This.

TBH My eye's on DF me thinks.

#3811

This is who is alive:

SVS
Bass
Faraday
Vomps
Dom
Black Rock
Rabbit
Juliets
Canuck

I was able to knock myself and a couple of others off this list. I am still kinda weirded out by Canuck wanting to follow my vote THAT particular day, the day I voted for TH. That freaked me out a bit.

I still think Dom is unlikely to have been on the same team as Epi, although anything is possible. His votes seem on the up and up as well.

I thought Faraday was bad when he died. The people who don't think he is now, can you explain?

Vomps?? I think he is bad, tbh.

Can someone explain the "Why Bass is a civ" thing to me like I am stupid? I don't particularly feel he is bad, but I don't get that whole role switch thing, either.

Rabbit is unlikely to be bad, he has been pushing for Bullz for days. Had Bullz flipped Millionaire, I might have been more "hrm" but he didn't.

Going into the night, I thought BR HAD to be Bullz teammate. But I think he BTS sounded genuine. And "crucify" is a harsh word~ I think her interpretation of that snippet was the one I would have made had I been her. It also gives her an easy out, though, getting BTS that sounds pretty aggressive from "not her own team" if she is a baddie, especially if it is not that current.

Juliets, always a grey area. She is a reread for me.

#3812

Oh Bullz, karma's a bitch.

#3813

SVS, Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person and then switched roles with Bass (or it could have been the other way around, A person switched roles with Bass and then Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person, it really doesn't matter which happened first).

It only makes sense that to switch roles you'd have to be of the same alignment, otherwise one of the two would know who a whole team of people were.

Metalmarsh died at night so he had to be a civ or a celestial. I don't think he was a celestial. So Bass, if he's the same alignment as MM has to be civ.

Something else happened in this time period sealed the deal for me. I can't tell you what without completely outting Bass.

#3814

OK thanks for that Jules, makes sense

#3815

juliets wrote:SVS, Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person and then switched roles with Bass (or it could have been the other way around, A person switched roles with Bass and then Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person, it really doesn't matter which happened first).

It only makes sense that to switch roles you'd have to be of the same alignment, otherwise one of the two would know who a whole team of people were.

Metalmarsh died at night so he had to be a civ or a celestial. I don't think he was a celestial. So Bass, if he's the same alignment as MM has to be civ.

Something else happened in this time period sealed the deal for me. I can't tell you what without completely outting Bass.

This was storytelling IMO....

I assumed it had something to do with this:

John Cooper Jarndyce - The Sensationalist - Can create a scene which will enthrall two players for a day.

#3816

^^ Here is Lamas post.

thellama73 wrote:
Day 4

#3817

Storytelling, really? So you dont think we switched?

#3818

Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?

#3819

I think this role happened to Bass and A person..

Cooper Jarndyce - The Sensationalist - Can create a scene which will enthrall two players for a day.

#3820

rabbit8 wrote:Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?

I dont know why we did, but we did.

#3821

Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:I thought we all had Bass figured out as a civ what with the switch with MM and other things that happened during that period. Anything specific that changed your mind rabbit?
This.

TBH My eye's on DF me thinks.

Can you explain why? I voted for Bullz because I didn't think BR's info was necessarily good (correctly, as it tuns out). You and a bunch of other people voted for Bullz, so I'm not sure why you brought that up to begin with.

#3822

And I voted 22nd Street because I don't like how pretty much all of the votes in the game (including the streets) have degenerated into bandwagons, with reasons for voting anything amounting to "someone else voted that way so I will too".

Poor Elo got the worst of it, but it's been rampant since like Day 4.

#3823

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?
I dont know why we did, but we did.

I doubt it.

#3824

DFaraday wrote:And I voted 22nd Street because I don't like how pretty much all of the votes in the game (including the streets) have degenerated into bandwagons, with reasons for voting anything amounting to "someone else voted that way so I will too".

Poor Elo got the worst of it, but it's been rampant since like Day 4.

This post got my eye big time. It has the distinct feel of someone who has been in a chatroom discussing the crappy gameplay of the opposition with his team.

You NEVER have a bitchy tone, Faraday. This post sounds like bitchiness rubbed off on you.

#3825

S~V~S wrote:
Can someone explain the "Why Bass is a civ" thing to me like I am stupid? I don't particularly feel he is bad, but I don't get that whole role switch thing, either.

The night post that Rabbit posted, in my eyes, showed that MM and Bass switched roles. LC pointed out that it's unlikely that they would be opposing factions.

#3826

DFaraday wrote:And I voted 22nd Street because I don't like how pretty much all of the votes in the game (including the streets) have degenerated into bandwagons, with reasons for voting anything amounting to "someone else voted that way so I will too".

Poor Elo got the worst of it, but it's been rampant since like Day 4.

Bass's bad attitude rubbed off on ya, eh?

#3827

MM agreed with this iirc? I was kinda focused on the DP has the elephant charm aspect of this post.

#3828

Dom wrote:
DFaraday wrote:And I voted 22nd Street because I don't like how pretty much all of the votes in the game (including the streets) have degenerated into bandwagons, with reasons for voting anything amounting to "someone else voted that way so I will too".

Poor Elo got the worst of it, but it's been rampant since like Day 4.
Bass's bad attitude rubbed off on ya, eh?

I dont haveabad attitude. lol I am almost happy when playing mafia. Sorry if it seemed I had a bad attittude.

#3829

Day 10

You have 48 hours to lynch a baddie.

#3830

Flip a coin.

Poll runs till Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:13:46 pm

Clark St.
4
S~V~S (3), juliets (4), Dom (5), Bass_the_Clever (11)
36%

22nd St.
2
Vompatti (2), DFaraday (9)
18%

Someplace far away… yes, that’ll do..(Host/Mod/Dead/NP)
5
thellama73 (1), LizKeen (6), MovingPictures07 (7), Metalmarsh89 (8), fingersplints (10)
45%

Total votes : 11

#3831

Dang rabbit, why did you get yourself killed and eaten! And you forgot to give us your case on Bass! Well, RIP and hope to see you in the next game. Gonna miss your influence.

#3832

I think i agree with the poet~ I think rabbit was mistaken re Bass as MM also said the same.

#3833

Yes SVS I think he was mistaken too. i still would have liked to have heard his case.

I'm down to very few people who could be bad. What do you think about Canuck? Dom vouches for her and I read Dom civ.

#3834

He vouches for her or he thinks she is civ? And I am also thinking he is likely civ.

The day I inexplicably voted TH it kinda freaked me that Canuck said she would follow my vote. It could have just been one of those things though. She sounded sincerely frustrated.

#3835

I'm pretty sure he said he could vouch for her as opposed to he thinks she's civ. Dom maybe you could weigh in on this.

Yes, that frustration was definitely there. It could be because she is just barely skimming the thread because of her pre-lims and thus very uncertain who to vote. That's what I got out of her wanting to vote who you voted. But i do not know Canuck that well, haven't played with her that much.

I think I will probably vote DF today but I want to make sure I consider everyone who is on the might be bad list since there are so few of us left.

#3836

I have some concerns about a few things, I plan to write a "What I think of Everyone" post a bit later.

#3837

@Llama~ not sure if you will answer this or not, but I gotta ask; if someone gets snippets of BTSC, do they get entire lines, or might what they get start mid sentence?

#3838

S~V~S wrote:
DFaraday wrote:And I voted 22nd Street because I don't like how pretty much all of the votes in the game (including the streets) have degenerated into bandwagons, with reasons for voting anything amounting to "someone else voted that way so I will too".

Poor Elo got the worst of it, but it's been rampant since like Day 4.
This post got my eye big time. It has the distinct feel of someone who has been in a chatroom discussing the crappy gameplay of the opposition with his team.

You NEVER have a bitchy tone, Faraday. This post sounds like bitchiness rubbed off on you.

That is not true. I can get very snappy when I'm really bothered by the way someone is playing (I still feel bad for the way I talked to FH in the LOST game). It's really been bothering me that it seems like most of the players have just been voting blindly on everything, and which made me realize how many times I've done this myself in games, and how much I need to improve my playstyle.

Regarding this lynch, I can pretty much rule out Vomp, SVS, and Dom as baddies. Bass is possible, but I'm thinking more the baddies tried to frame Rabbit for his suspicion. For me it's between BR, JC, and Canuck.

#3839

Really? That is not at all what I expected from you. I have a somewhat similar list, only 2 names.

Can you tell me why?

#3840

BR-- how many items do you have-- just curious. . . asking for a friend?

S~V~S wrote:He vouches for her or he thinks she is civ? And I am also thinking he is likely civ.

The day I inexplicably voted TH it kinda freaked me that Canuck said she would follow my vote. It could have just been one of those things though. She sounded sincerely frustrated.

I sincerely doubt Canuck is bad.

DFaraday wrote: That is not true. I can get very snappy when I'm really bothered by the way someone is playing (I still feel bad for the way I talked to FH in the LOST game). It's really been bothering me that it seems like most of the players have just been voting blindly on everything, and which made me realize how many times I've done this myself in games, and how much I need to improve my playstyle.

Regarding this lynch, I can pretty much rule out Vomp, SVS, and Dom as baddies. Bass is possible, but I'm thinking more the baddies tried to frame Rabbit for his suspicion. For me it's between BR, JC, and Canuck.

Nice try.

Please, elaborate on Black Rock, though.

#3841

OK, then, I will trust you on Canuck. Personally, she was on my short list too. I really hated her wantint to follow my vote the day I voted for TH. It felt wrong to me. But OK. Plus she has not been around.

And yeah, I want to hear what he says about BR, too.

#3842

Dom wrote:BR-- how many items do you have-- just curious. . . asking for a friend?

S~V~S wrote:He vouches for her or he thinks she is civ? And I am also thinking he is likely civ.

The day I inexplicably voted TH it kinda freaked me that Canuck said she would follow my vote. It could have just been one of those things though. She sounded sincerely frustrated.
I sincerely doubt Canuck is bad.

DFaraday wrote: That is not true. I can get very snappy when I'm really bothered by the way someone is playing (I still feel bad for the way I talked to FH in the LOST game). It's really been bothering me that it seems like most of the players have just been voting blindly on everything, and which made me realize how many times I've done this myself in games, and how much I need to improve my playstyle.

Regarding this lynch, I can pretty much rule out Vomp, SVS, and Dom as baddies. Bass is possible, but I'm thinking more the baddies tried to frame Rabbit for his suspicion. For me it's between BR, JC, and Canuck.
Nice try.

Please, elaborate on Black Rock, though.

Since Bullz turned out to be bad, either her info was faulty or she made it up to try to save him. SAince Bullz had been mentioned a few times prior to that lynch I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.

Canuck has been impossibly low under the radar, and I know she's busy, but it seems like she doesn't want to be held responsible for anything. JC is really just a matter of numbers; I don't really have anything against her, but someone has to be bad, so she's a possibility.

#3843

What are your thoughts on Vomps, Faraday?

#3844

DFaraday wrote:
Dom wrote:BR-- how many items do you have-- just curious. . . asking for a friend?

S~V~S wrote:He vouches for her or he thinks she is civ? And I am also thinking he is likely civ.

The day I inexplicably voted TH it kinda freaked me that Canuck said she would follow my vote. It could have just been one of those things though. She sounded sincerely frustrated.
I sincerely doubt Canuck is bad.

DFaraday wrote: That is not true. I can get very snappy when I'm really bothered by the way someone is playing (I still feel bad for the way I talked to FH in the LOST game). It's really been bothering me that it seems like most of the players have just been voting blindly on everything, and which made me realize how many times I've done this myself in games, and how much I need to improve my playstyle.

Regarding this lynch, I can pretty much rule out Vomp, SVS, and Dom as baddies. Bass is possible, but I'm thinking more the baddies tried to frame Rabbit for his suspicion. For me it's between BR, JC, and Canuck.
Nice try.

Please, elaborate on Black Rock, though.
Since Bullz turned out to be bad, either her info was faulty or she made it up to try to save him. SAince Bullz had been mentioned a few times prior to that lynch I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.

Canuck has been impossibly low under the radar, and I know she's busy, but it seems like she doesn't want to be held responsible for anything. JC is really just a matter of numbers; I don't really have anything against her, but someone has to be bad, so she's a possibility.

Any other observations about Ms. Rock?

#3845

Dfaraday-- for shits and gigs-- how many items do you have?

I have 1, for the record.

#3846

#3847

bitches....................

#3848

Thats a good question, Dom. I have only one, and it isn't even one I particularly want

Rabbit

#3849

S~V~S wrote:What are your thoughts on Vomps, Faraday?

Given that he ended up tied in what seemed like a blatant save attempt in Zomba's lynch, and that (as I recall) Epi put the tying vote on him, I seriously doubt he's one of the baddies.

EBWOP: Not particularly, she sounds genuine enough, but is still pretty high on my list right now. Is there something in particular you're looking for, Dom?

Edit2: I have one item: The berries I started the game with.

I'm off to tutoring, will be back in a bit.

#3850

Faraday, would you be surprised to learn that the baddies had extra votes?

That might render a tie less meaningful. I got some from Zomba when she died. I have them still. Anyone I might have wanted to use them for was NKed not lynched

Who iced Dom?