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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bye, k? :P
Does anyone believe that rabbit was cursed yesterday? That means there are multiple cursing roles, including the fact the one of them was probably already lynched.
Or was rabbit being sarcastic?
Black Rock wrote:
I feel like a dumb player as well. In fact I had to go back and read things to understand what DH was talking about.
My view on the whole vouching thing was the way Roxy approached it in the thread. It seemed like she was leading up to a vote but keeping important info out. Then all of a sudden she was convinced Aces was good. If I'm remembering correctly I do believe Aces was a lynch subject and the lynch could have swayed that way. I believe they hid behind the map BTSC to cover up their baddie BTSC. The way she led into it flipped peoples opinions of Aces. It would be a grand scheme that Roxy is capable of.
I'd say "character" for that first word, but it's missing an R. Host, are we missing an R?timmer wrote:Has anyone completely decoded Murmur's tildes? I've got most of it, but there's a part I can't get.
Murmur – He is an insane doctor who developed a “frenzy virus”. On odd nights, Murmur will select a player. That player is silenced during the next day. If the targeted player targets another ~~a~a~~~r ~~r~~~ ~~~~r ~~~~ ~~~~~, ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ the virus passes over? to him/her.
Anyone have the rest?
Oh he was bad as bad could be.Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I had assumed but just wanted to confirmrabbit8 wrote:I think he is bad in this game. If I refer to another game I would think he was _____ in that game.Devin the Omniscient wrote:rabbit8 wrote:Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.
Fill in the blank.
Nope.thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
this intrigued me, the theory on how to trap baddies and if it was applied before.Bullzeye wrote:I'm not saying you should suspect anyone for coming after me, never have and never will. In fact, I've got a hilarious idea which I won't share til close to my lynch (whether that's day four or day fifty) that might lead to a decent suspect. It's the kind of theory that, if you share it too soon, you warn the baddies against taking the action that would otherwise condemn them. As for proving people shouldn't be listened to, certain people are acting like I'm so obviously bad and they should obviously be listened to and followed (one of these was BF, fwiw) and so proving them wrong would correct that a little.
Linki - There's still a 50% chance I'm an Old Rogue, and a reasonable chance I'm independent. In that case, I'd be siding with the civs because as much as I say indies are lame for always doing that, there's a good reason why it happens.
Okay, I will explain it for you since you asked rather than acted like I'm claiming some secret infallible knowledge. I probably shouldn't have said anything at all. Basically, I have a thought. This thought is that a person who acts a certain way might possibly stand a chance of being one particular baddie role. The behaviour in question will happen if I'm about to be lynched, which I think there's a decent chance of. If it does happen, I will point it out, if not, there's no point mentioning it at all. I regret saying anything now since certain people are twisting it to suggest I'm saying I have some perfect way of finding guaranteed baddies, or am claiming secret knowledge. Neither of those things are the case, I never do either.Sophie wrote:this intrigued me, the theory on how to trap baddies and if it was applied before.Bullzeye wrote:I'm not saying you should suspect anyone for coming after me, never have and never will. In fact, I've got a hilarious idea which I won't share til close to my lynch (whether that's day four or day fifty) that might lead to a decent suspect. It's the kind of theory that, if you share it too soon, you warn the baddies against taking the action that would otherwise condemn them. As for proving people shouldn't be listened to, certain people are acting like I'm so obviously bad and they should obviously be listened to and followed (one of these was BF, fwiw) and so proving them wrong would correct that a little.
Linki - There's still a 50% chance I'm an Old Rogue, and a reasonable chance I'm independent. In that case, I'd be siding with the civs because as much as I say indies are lame for always doing that, there's a good reason why it happens.
what do u mean you wont share it close to your lynch? are u close to be lynched? as far as i know only llama and one or two other people mentioned you?
Good luck on your exam! I do not envy you :0
I think it's because virtually everyone else who has been suspected is bad, so they are trying to create something. Notice how none of them are saying "I don't think Bass is bad" or "here are the reasons I trust Aces" it is just "hmm Timmer is shady". They aren't even talking about anything else.FZ. wrote:I seriously don't get the Timmer votes and it''s bugging the hell out of me.
Either those who voted for him explain it in a way that I understand their motives, or I'm voting for one of them
I don't recall what you speak of here, what interaction?S~V~S wrote:You should think I am a civ
Can you tell me, Timmer, within the limits of what is acceptable, if you know why BF thought you & he interacted Night One? Even a yes/no would help me.
I was asking Timmer, which might be why you don't recall itLong Con wrote:I don't recall what you speak of here, what interaction?S~V~S wrote:You should think I am a civ
Can you tell me, Timmer, within the limits of what is acceptable, if you know why BF thought you & he interacted Night One? Even a yes/no would help me.
I may have missed some posts because I've been busy, but I have been trying, and I'm okay with being told I am wrong.thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Bass lied about it early on.Black Rock wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bye, k? :P
Does anyone believe that rabbit was cursed yesterday? That means there are multiple cursing roles, including the fact the one of them was probably already lynched.
Or was rabbit being sarcastic?
I believe Rabbit was cursed yesterday. Why would he lie about that?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Why are you trying to prove the baddieness of a dead player? Of what importance is that right now?timmer wrote:Black Rock wrote:
I feel like a dumb player as well. In fact I had to go back and read things to understand what DH was talking about.
My view on the whole vouching thing was the way Roxy approached it in the thread. It seemed like she was leading up to a vote but keeping important info out. Then all of a sudden she was convinced Aces was good. If I'm remembering correctly I do believe Aces was a lynch subject and the lynch could have swayed that way. I believe they hid behind the map BTSC to cover up their baddie BTSC. The way she led into it flipped peoples opinions of Aces. It would be a grand scheme that Roxy is capable of.
That's exactly what she did, and she got help from a teammate. i realize that much of that day I was screaming and rambling in the thread like an idiot, but I think I was right on point. I didn't like Roxy's whole mystery btsc partner, and I didn't like how the clock was down to about four hours to lynch deadline and she was still saying but not saying anything. She was hedging, hedging, hedging, and then just as people started looking at her in a really negative light, there was Bass 2.0 vouching for her in a blatant way.
When I couple that with Roxy's claims the next day in map btsc and her lack of any attempt to dissuade me from a BF vote, it all becomes clear.
Also, either the New Rogues or the Arch Villains, whichever Roxy was part of, know my role (I didn't out myself but I sort of laid a trail), and it makes the fact that I'm taking on votes very interesting and clever on their part, in light of my role. I won't say more than that, but I'm very impressed with their moxie. (I'm not saying that anyone who votes for me is a New Rogue or an Arch Villains, just that I think much of this push is likely coming from there).
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
For the record, I didn't actually want to vote for you on Day 3 (twice).Bullzeye wrote:Nope.thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
I've been really ill lately and in a horrific mood because of it. Everything I say seems to be getting twisted and used against me, and BF even admitted he was waiting to be able to do that. I'm tired of defending against the same old accusations constantly and I'm tired of every single post I make being used to make me look bad regardless of content. If people want me lynched so badly, come at me. If it was only three of you I wouldn't have got nearly half the votes on day 2. I really want to play this game but I'm really burnt out because of personal circumstances. Saying this will lead to me being accused of making up excuses but I'm not really bothered. I want to try to play it's just a case of finding the energy and I'm not sure if I can.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I do often, especially when votes are changeable and I am busy.FZ. wrote:Does MM always vote so early?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
You mean you were forced to vote Bullz?Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, I didn't actually want to vote for you on Day 3 (twice).Bullzeye wrote:Nope.thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
I've been really ill lately and in a horrific mood because of it. Everything I say seems to be getting twisted and used against me, and BF even admitted he was waiting to be able to do that. I'm tired of defending against the same old accusations constantly and I'm tired of every single post I make being used to make me look bad regardless of content. If people want me lynched so badly, come at me. If it was only three of you I wouldn't have got nearly half the votes on day 2. I really want to play this game but I'm really burnt out because of personal circumstances. Saying this will lead to me being accused of making up excuses but I'm not really bothered. I want to try to play it's just a case of finding the energy and I'm not sure if I can.
Oh, so this is all behind-the-scenes stuff from map BTSC?S~V~S wrote:I was asking Timmer, which might be why you don't recall itLong Con wrote:I don't recall what you speak of here, what interaction?S~V~S wrote:You should think I am a civ
Can you tell me, Timmer, within the limits of what is acceptable, if you know why BF thought you & he interacted Night One? Even a yes/no would help me.
I mentioned it earlier. After Night One, BF seemd to think he had had an interaction with Timmer in the night via night actions. We were in a good place to be on the map, but he left to look for Timmer, based on something he was vague about due to no outing.
But I want Timmer to tell me if he knows what that might have been about. Just yes/no if that is all he feels comfortable with. But I kinda need to know if he knows what BF was talking about.
Yes. Day 3 was not very fun.Long Con wrote:You mean you were forced to vote Bullz?Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, I didn't actually want to vote for you on Day 3 (twice).Bullzeye wrote:Nope.thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
I've been really ill lately and in a horrific mood because of it. Everything I say seems to be getting twisted and used against me, and BF even admitted he was waiting to be able to do that. I'm tired of defending against the same old accusations constantly and I'm tired of every single post I make being used to make me look bad regardless of content. If people want me lynched so badly, come at me. If it was only three of you I wouldn't have got nearly half the votes on day 2. I really want to play this game but I'm really burnt out because of personal circumstances. Saying this will lead to me being accused of making up excuses but I'm not really bothered. I want to try to play it's just a case of finding the energy and I'm not sure if I can.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Nothing I would call an interaction, really. But if you think of all of the different ways two people could be technically linked in the course of a single mafia night (map btsc, role btsc, someone targets someone else with their night power, stuff like that) then yes, there is a certain something between us that night. And yet no. Because whatever the thing is that was supposed to be.... wasn't. And I have no idea why. Does that fit with what BF may have mentioned? I don't think I can say more than that.S~V~S wrote:You should think I am a civ
Can you tell me, Timmer, within the limits of what is acceptable, if you know why BF thought you & he interacted Night One? Even a yes/no would help me.
In light of what his role turned out to be, I have no idea why "the stuff form night 1" didn't happen. His role doesn't even have any tildes.S~V~S wrote:I brought it up before. BF seemed to have some kind of result night one that involved Timmer. He seemed to think that Timmer had learned something about him, maybe? Not sure, no outing rules=vague. For my own equally vague reasons I had my own thoughts about this situation.
I just want to know if Timmer knows what BF was talking about or not.
Because Bass 2.0 directly vouched for Roxy in the game thread, enough that it moved my attention temporarily off of her. But what happened the day after between me and Roxy proved to me that she was lying her butt off to me, and just soaking up the info I was pseudo-giving her. It's important because it means Bass is bad. Bass is a living player, so it has OBVIOUS importance.Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Why are you trying to prove the baddieness of a dead player? Of what importance is that right now?
I know. And I'm not really even sure how this particular thing is relevant to today, tbh, but SVS may, which has my interest piqued.Long Con wrote:This is all very interesting, and very hard to figure out for spectators.
Yeah, that's one element that was like "Huh?"timmer wrote:@SVS, what do you mean BF "left to look for Timmer"? He had BTSC with you in one square and left to go to another? I'm not sure I understand.
Actually, I think the rest was me, it's got to be insanify, and likely silence. I just couldn't get that other part, but that's all of it now, thanks!Long Con wrote:Yeah, that's one element that was like "Huh?"timmer wrote:@SVS, what do you mean BF "left to look for Timmer"? He had BTSC with you in one square and left to go to another? I'm not sure I understand.
Also: Once each, he can: ~~sa~~~~, lynch-switch, role check, power steal, s~~~~~~, survive a kill, survive a lynch, or resurrect another player.
I'll probably get the rest, but I don't know them yet. Someone posted a partial solution before, but I didn't jot it down.
Linki: I'm still leaning toward trusting you and suspecting Roxy, Aces, and Bass, as I was before all this weird info came out. As for my vote, I'd still like to wait and see and hear from more players for some fresh opinions. It's hard to judge this conversation between you and S~V~S, I have no point of reference about it.
I posted the solution to this a while back and you even responded to it. lol. It's an important piece of the Roxy/Aces puzzle for me currently, but I'm willing to hear other interpretations for his lynch survival if you have them.timmer wrote:Has anyone worked out what this is in Abra Kadabr's role?
s~r~~~~ a ~~~~, s~r~~~~ a ~~~~~
I've got nothing.
survive a kill, survive a lynch.timmer wrote:Has anyone worked out what this is in Abra Kadabr's role?
s~r~~~~ a ~~~~, s~r~~~~ a ~~~~~
I've got nothing.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I know you asked Timmer, but I have two points to make about this. First, people seemed pretty sure that it was Spacedaisy that explicitly survived the lynch, and second, I've seen people survive lynches before, and it generally doesn't involve the whole day resetting.Turnip Head wrote:In any case, Aces explicitly survived a lynch and I have a specific role in mind that can do that, and it's not a New Rogue. Timmer what's your theory for why Aces survived? Have you found any tildes to support such a theory?
I'm with LC on this one. A "survive a lynch" is just that. the lynch ends with "no one was lynched". the game moves on.Long Con wrote:I know you asked Timmer, but I have two points to make about this. First, people seemed pretty sure that it was Spacedaisy that explicitly survived the lynch, and second, I've seen people survive lynches before, and it generally doesn't involve the whole day resetting.Turnip Head wrote:In any case, Aces explicitly survived a lynch and I have a specific role in mind that can do that, and it's not a New Rogue. Timmer what's your theory for why Aces survived? Have you found any tildes to support such a theory?
