The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 12)

[FZ.]

So how did you decide I'm your best friend right now?

linki: I have thought about it. But she said there was nothing concrete, just that she was afraid of it. I know the detectives don't need me to win, but they do need all the NR dead. If anyone can be recruited, it is probably the independent rogues, and the evidence on you is from PP and from the CC's role

[FZ.]

The thing that does trouble me though is, that if both of us are good, it means that NR had no problem "genuinely" debating who we should lynch, and it made them look better while contemplating. I feel now I can relate to SVS's constant feelings of not being able to trust anyone

[Long Con]

I'm asking because we now know that SVS was an OR. We're still left with the theory which would allow only 1 OR to be a live. How do we resolve that? Because I really want to believe you, but there is evidence against you

If Timmer got answers to those questions from the host, then you can get them too. Why not just ask MR? He'll tell you anything he told Timmer, surely.

[Long Con]

I didn't think TH was the top at the time, I thought he was Wally. And I f forgot all about it once the lynch happened, TH flipped bad, my brain moved on, because why assume abaddie targeted a baddie? Contrary to what some people say, im often NOT smart and I often miss the obvious. Combine my posts from that day with the hosts own pay, it's clear as day and I missed it. But lc made me realize it!

I don't quite believe you thought TH was Wally West. Or that you just forgot about your "theory" until now, how do you just forget something like that? This feels like you're grasping at straws.

[timmer]

I didn't think TH was the top at the time, I thought he was Wally. And I f forgot all about it once the lynch happened, TH flipped bad, my brain moved on, because why assume abaddie targeted a baddie? Contrary to what some people say, im often NOT smart and I often miss the obvious. Combine my posts from that day with the hosts own pay, it's clear as day and I missed it. But lc made me realize it!

I don't quite believe you thought TH was Wally West. Or that you just forgot about your "theory" until now, how do you just forget something like that? This feels like you're grasping at straws.

I have gaps in my memory sometimes.

[Marmot]

Come back to us Bass!

[Long Con]

Come back to us Bass!

He's been posting all week in Economics Mafia, but not since Monday here.

[FZ.]

Come back to us Bass!

He's been posting all week in Economics Mafia, but not since Monday here.

Maybe we should all vote for him to get him to come in here

[FZ.]

I didn't think TH was the top at the time, I thought he was Wally. And I f forgot all about it once the lynch happened, TH flipped bad, my brain moved on, because why assume abaddie targeted a baddie? Contrary to what some people say, im often NOT smart and I often miss the obvious. Combine my posts from that day with the hosts own pay, it's clear as day and I missed it. But lc made me realize it!

I don't quite believe you thought TH was Wally West. Or that you just forgot about your "theory" until now, how do you just forget something like that? This feels like you're grasping at straws.

I have gaps in my memory sometimes.

Remind me again why you thought TH was Wally?

[Long Con]

I didn't think TH was the top at the time, I thought he was Wally. And I f forgot all about it once the lynch happened, TH flipped bad, my brain moved on, because why assume abaddie targeted a baddie? Contrary to what some people say, im often NOT smart and I often miss the obvious. Combine my posts from that day with the hosts own pay, it's clear as day and I missed it. But lc made me realize it!

I don't quite believe you thought TH was Wally West. Or that you just forgot about your "theory" until now, how do you just forget something like that? This feels like you're grasping at straws.

I have gaps in my memory sometimes.

Remind me again why you thought TH was Wally?

I don't think it will be a "reminder" so much, because this seems to be the first time he brought it up.

[Marmot]

I don't think Wally would have voted for Barry on Day 1.

[FZ.]

I didn't think TH was the top at the time, I thought he was Wally. And I f forgot all about it once the lynch happened, TH flipped bad, my brain moved on, because why assume abaddie targeted a baddie? Contrary to what some people say, im often NOT smart and I often miss the obvious. Combine my posts from that day with the hosts own pay, it's clear as day and I missed it. But lc made me realize it!

I don't quite believe you thought TH was Wally West. Or that you just forgot about your "theory" until now, how do you just forget something like that? This feels like you're grasping at straws.

I have gaps in my memory sometimes.

Remind me again why you thought TH was Wally?

I don't think it will be a "reminder" so much, because this seems to be the first time he brought it up.

No, he said it after TH was lynched. Even if he's lying, it's not the first time

[FZ.]

I don't think Wally would have voted for Barry on Day 1.

Keep in mind that Timmer was not there on day 1. He did catch up though, but I don't know how much he paid attention to the poll

[Marmot]

I don't think Wally would have voted for Barry on Day 1.

Keep in mind that Timmer was not there on day 1. He did catch up though, but I don't know how much he paid attention to the poll

Timmer did join on Day 1, though it was late. He even voted in the poll.

[FZ.]

I don't think Wally would have voted for Barry on Day 1.

Keep in mind that Timmer was not there on day 1. He did catch up though, but I don't know how much he paid attention to the poll

Timmer did join on Day 1, though it was late. He even voted in the poll.

Oh well, forget it, I'm an idiot

I'm annoyed that Devin and Bass are not here. If we're going to vote for someone this day, I want to hear everyone

[Long Con]

We still have a day and a half, hopefully they'll make an appearance. Still lots of time.

[Marmot]

I don't think Wally would have voted for Barry on Day 1.

Keep in mind that Timmer was not there on day 1. He did catch up though, but I don't know how much he paid attention to the poll

Timmer did join on Day 1, though it was late. He even voted in the poll.

Oh well, forget it, I'm an idiot

I'm annoyed that Devin and Bass are not here. If we're going to vote for someone this day, I want to hear everyone

Well, we've still got 36 hours at least. But they have been very quiet lately, and Bass even missed the last vote.

[FZ.]

Really? Why did I think it was tonight? I'm so out of it

[Draconus]

I'm here! You guys gave me a lot to catch up on!

[Long Con]

Excellent... I now summon... Bass the Clever!!!

[Turnip Head]

Hi yes hello I'm Bass

[Long Con]

Hi yes hello I'm Bass

Yes! Bass, what do you think of the current situation? Why are people off the poll?

[Turnip Head]

Hi yes hello I'm Bass

Yes! Bass, what do you think of the current situation? Why are people off the poll?

I'm glad you asked me about that. I think I speak for everyone when I say

[Draconus]

I think the wigi board is broken...

[Draconus]

I just looked back at Day 8, and the Timmer-TH interactions are a good read. This is just after TH tried to kill Girder and failed, or so the "crunching steel" and non-death in the nightpost leads us to believe. I think TH may have tried to kill Timmer for distancing, and discovered to his surprise that he was a fellow New Rogue.

Day 11 already has shenanigans for the lynch. I don't know if it's on a three-day schedule.

Good night.

Holy shit, Long Con! I'm so glad I checked back in, you've given me the answer, it was right in front of me the whole time! im gooing to ask you to read that day one more time! I was so blind sided by THs role that I never put two and two together. Read my posts from that day again!

Votes DEVIN!!!

Did I miss something? Da fuq Timmer? This feels like a desperate ploy to get attention off of yourself. I know who you are, Timmer. You're not an OR. And you're not Indie. You're also not on the GD poll!!!

[Draconus]

Come back to us Bass!

He's been posting all week in Economics Mafia, but not since Monday here.

Maybe we should all vote for him to get him to come in here

I actually thought about this Or someone could post in the economics mafia game using blue... Unless you're playing that game, too.

[Draconus]

Voted MM for now, so noone dies if the day ends early. Will be back later.

[timmer]

@LC, here's the situation. I really hate saying this, but it's the reality. The detectives, whether they realize it or not, have aligned themselves with the New Rogues. Either their win conditions have changed somehow and it is deliberate, or they are just really misreading the not-always-true info they get, but whatever the reason, the very people who have the power to take out the NR's at night are actually voting with them consistently in the game.

So Long Con, if you are indy? It makes most sense to just go with the flow. Vote for whoever MM and Sophie say to vote for, and just win the game. Just like SVS, and apparently just like FZ, I'm frazzled by the confusion of what is going on here. I don't understand why people are doing what they are doing. And i won't be able to figure it out. I know 100% who at least one NR is, but no one believes me. So just end it, man. You get the win no matter what. But when the detectives have EVERYTHING backwards, and the New Rogues feed that delusion, the end is a foregone conclusion.

You had the answers, LC, and you've let yourself get blind-sided by complete outright lies. But luckily for you, it's all good.

[Marmot]

A wiser man than I once said "Getting your ass kicked by the facts and giving up are two different things".

[Draconus]

A wiser man than I once said "Getting your ass kicked by the facts and giving up are two different things".

[FZ.]

I just looked back at Day 8, and the Timmer-TH interactions are a good read. This is just after TH tried to kill Girder and failed, or so the "crunching steel" and non-death in the nightpost leads us to believe. I think TH may have tried to kill Timmer for distancing, and discovered to his surprise that he was a fellow New Rogue.

Day 11 already has shenanigans for the lynch. I don't know if it's on a three-day schedule.

Good night.

Holy shit, Long Con! I'm so glad I checked back in, you've given me the answer, it was right in front of me the whole time! im gooing to ask you to read that day one more time! I was so blind sided by THs role that I never put two and two together. Read my posts from that day again!

Votes DEVIN!!!

Did I miss something? Da fuq Timmer? This feels like a desperate ploy to get attention off of yourself. I know who you are, Timmer. You're not an OR. And you're not Indie. You're also not on the GD poll!!!

Okay, who is he?

[Draconus]

I'll give you another hint. If I'm right, he's also not a NR.

[Draconus]

That leaves only one possibility.

[Sophie]

Wth? I came here to vote for timmer and he is off the poll??
And wth is going on?
pff, gotta go eat and bbl

[Sophie]

That leaves only one possibility.

Zoom?

[Draconus]

That leaves only one possibility.

Zoom?

[Marmot]

That leaves only one possibility.

Zoom?

Does that mean we lynch you today?

[Draconus]

That leaves only one possibility.

Zoom?

Does that mean we lynch you today?

No...

[Long Con]

@LC, here's the situation. I really hate saying this, but it's the reality. The detectives, whether they realize it or not, have aligned themselves with the New Rogues. Either their win conditions have changed somehow and it is deliberate, or they are just really misreading the not-always-true info they get, but whatever the reason, the very people who have the power to take out the NR's at night are actually voting with them consistently in the game.

So Long Con, if you are indy? It makes most sense to just go with the flow. Vote for whoever MM and Sophie say to vote for, and just win the game. Just like SVS, and apparently just like FZ, I'm frazzled by the confusion of what is going on here. I don't understand why people are doing what they are doing. And i won't be able to figure it out. I know 100% who at least one NR is, but no one believes me. So just end it, man. You get the win no matter what. But when the detectives have EVERYTHING backwards, and the New Rogues feed that delusion, the end is a foregone conclusion.

You had the answers, LC, and you've let yourself get blind-sided by complete outright lies. But luckily for you, it's all good.

Well, "it's all good" is relative. Metalmarsh still wants to lynch me today, and that is "all bad" from my perspective.

And I think Zoom is dead.

[Bass_the_Clever]

Ok sorry I wasnt around and didnt vote. I thought we were getting an extra 24 hours. I would have vote SVS.

[Draconus]

@LC, here's the situation. I really hate saying this, but it's the reality. The detectives, whether they realize it or not, have aligned themselves with the New Rogues. Either their win conditions have changed somehow and it is deliberate, or they are just really misreading the not-always-true info they get, but whatever the reason, the very people who have the power to take out the NR's at night are actually voting with them consistently in the game.

So Long Con, if you are indy? It makes most sense to just go with the flow. Vote for whoever MM and Sophie say to vote for, and just win the game. Just like SVS, and apparently just like FZ, I'm frazzled by the confusion of what is going on here. I don't understand why people are doing what they are doing. And i won't be able to figure it out. I know 100% who at least one NR is, but no one believes me. So just end it, man. You get the win no matter what. But when the detectives have EVERYTHING backwards, and the New Rogues feed that delusion, the end is a foregone conclusion.

You had the answers, LC, and you've let yourself get blind-sided by complete outright lies. But luckily for you, it's all good.

Well, "it's all good" is relative. Metalmarsh still wants to lynch me today, and that is "all bad" from my perspective.

And I think Zoom is dead.

What makes you think that? Did you have someone else pegged as Zoom?

[Draconus]

I think the wigi board is broken...

*Ouija
I am a fool and google is broken

[Epignosis]

I think the wigi board is broken...

*Ouija
I am a fool and google is broken

Oui = "Yes" in French.
Ja = "Yes" in German.

It's a yesyes board.

"Tales from Topographic Oceans" is Yes in English.

[Long Con]

@LC, here's the situation. I really hate saying this, but it's the reality. The detectives, whether they realize it or not, have aligned themselves with the New Rogues. Either their win conditions have changed somehow and it is deliberate, or they are just really misreading the not-always-true info they get, but whatever the reason, the very people who have the power to take out the NR's at night are actually voting with them consistently in the game.

So Long Con, if you are indy? It makes most sense to just go with the flow. Vote for whoever MM and Sophie say to vote for, and just win the game. Just like SVS, and apparently just like FZ, I'm frazzled by the confusion of what is going on here. I don't understand why people are doing what they are doing. And i won't be able to figure it out. I know 100% who at least one NR is, but no one believes me. So just end it, man. You get the win no matter what. But when the detectives have EVERYTHING backwards, and the New Rogues feed that delusion, the end is a foregone conclusion.

You had the answers, LC, and you've let yourself get blind-sided by complete outright lies. But luckily for you, it's all good.

Well, "it's all good" is relative. Metalmarsh still wants to lynch me today, and that is "all bad" from my perspective.

And I think Zoom is dead.

What makes you think that? Did you have someone else pegged as Zoom?

Nope... but:

Zoom (????????) – He thinks he can make all the other heroes and villains “better”. Each odd night he will Protect one player. That player will be randomly rewarded or penalized as well. If Zoom protects Wally, one of Wally’s teammates will randomly die.

I really believe that Zoom would have found Wally by this point, and the Pied Piper would be dead. But he's not!

[Draconus]

He may be laying low...

[Draconus]

Trying to, anyway.

[Long Con]

That could be true. Peid Piper sure nailed that trick.

[Draconus]

Exactly.

[FZ.]

So do we want to end the day early or lynch someone? I think we need to make a decision

[FZ.]

And every person thinks Timmer is someone else.
Devin, do you still think he's Zoom, or did others convince you you're wrong?