S~V~S wrote:I am still catching up as well, I am a tad demoralized I guess. But it is what it is. I have never been afraid of saying what was on my mind, and i don't much worry about how I sound when I am a civ. After taking a day off, I can look at all of this with clearer eyes I think. Apologies to Dom.
This paragraph feels too much like a player making excuses for herself. SVS was absent for a long time while being accused and returns claiming to feel "demoralized", which is not a reaction I would expect from a typical townie (noting again that I've got no familiarity with SVS).
Cobalt, other than saying I am not a fan of people being aggressive on freaking day zero over trivia like word choice, what exactly pings you? Someone said earlier that I was buddying up top LC, and I assuredly was not. Long experience with LC tells me that that makes him intensely suspicious of ones motives. Buddying up to LC would be a weak manoeuver, but the person who said it was new to us, iirc. So they might not know that about LC.
The one person I have seen buddying seems to have been Golden, who spent a lot of time gazing at Epi with adoring eyes. That may have changed, I am not totally caught up.
I will look for the case on LC before I go to work~ I hope it's more than word choice, lol. My read on him was shaken by Flash, so i am more likely to rely on the cases of others for him, rather than my own gut. I will probably hold my vote till later n case I need to save, since telling Epi he is full of shit seems to make people think I am bad (and he IS full of shit, people, he is, lol~ even if he is a civ, which is possible). If I did not have to save, I would be considering a vote for Golden, but as I said, I am not 100% caught up since my last post. This was my impression as of Monday.
The rest of thos post is fair and she defends and explains herself fairly well but it doesn't do much for me because it does not address any of the things I wanted her to address (mostly MP's enormous post).
S~V~S wrote:timmer wrote:S~V~S wrote:Gumshoe & I both used the word "Interesting" as well.
I can't speak for LC or Gumshoe, but I thought todays discussion WAS interesting. You did not find it so, Epi? Out of all that discussion the only thing that caught your eye was one word?
This feels somewhat distractionary to me. Either you don't want people to talk about the other discussion today, or maybe you're doing some rather fancy distancing with LC, since it is unlikely that he is going to get lynched over "interesting". Or maybe you are just doing some standard issue Epi mind games and intentionally enigmatic crap. Not sure which, maybe all, maybe none.
I disagree with this. ^ I'm a lover of finding minute little pings in posts. nothing wrong with Epig going after word choices, even on Day 0. Doesn't make SVS bad for saying what she did, but I disagree.
No, you're right. But he makes it sound so...horrible. When you do it it feels reasonable, when he does it it seems demagogue-ish. Huey Long like, I guess.
And he knows (I hope) that this is said in a gameplay sense, not a real person sense. More than anyone I know, his game face and his real face are the most diverse. Sometimes it is hard to take that into account on my part, which is a failure of mine, not his. I need to learn to laugh him off, roll my eyes and move on. But for some reason I find it hard to do that. I am thinking I need to take a long break, or maybe even quit Mafia, tbh. I have always had that kind of reaction to that sort of aggression, maybe it's a "protect the Underdog complex. But lashing out at people for it has gotten me into trouble for years.
This post, along with the paragraph in the above one, is where my "passive" label comes from. SVS seems like she's making excuses, acknowledging that the suspicions against her have merit and simply shrugging off the notion of it. I'd prefer a stronger and more direct response about her behavior, whatever that may be.
Basically I was expecting more from SVS in response to the cases against her. That may be totally unfair of me, but for now I feel at least decent enough about this case to be considering a vote.
more for mafia, potentially 
And i'm a good guy AGAIN for the third time in a row! Which really doesn't help me train my mafia hunting instincts, like they say it takes a thief to catch a thief. Anyway, for what it is worth sloonei and golden are playing a lot like they did in the economics game so far, so i (want?) to believe they are civ. Don't know about the others like long con. Curious about the pm Dom sent like many of you, i would love if we could somehow join together and figure out what they all mean without actually posting them. 
