Watchmen [ENDGAME]

#451

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Scotty wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Guys, I think G-Man is bad.

Discuss.
Things that start with G:
Guilty-Man
Greedy-Man
Ghastly-Man
Gestapo-Man
Glib-Man
Good-Man

I'd wager one of those is right.

Also, he hasn't posted many pictures this game. Like 1 or so. Isn't he known for pictures? Or am I just getting bad info?
From where are you getting this information?
From BoB, when I was first introduced to GMan and his eccentricities. He used a copious amount of pictures as his posts, and someone (I don't remember or care to look it up) said that ~he was known for that in previous games.

He did it in Economics; before that, he has not, just an FYI.

#452

Golden wrote:ping on ninja's long post...

Her finding llama's adverb idea 'interesting' and suggesting she might be willing to vote sloonei, that whole latter part of her post felt quite bandwaggony to me and not quite sincere.

Bandwagoning onto what? An idea? An empty poll? A suggestion made by one person? At no point did I suggest voting Sloonei in that post; I said if there's nothing else to go on, and because I hate Days 1, those are tools are at my disposal (and, might I add, better than randomizing or self-voting). But you're right about one thing - I am feeling weird about Sloonei after catching up (again). Stay tuned.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Everyone: what do you all think of this post by Sloonei? What do they think of the suspicions he cast against Elo and ninja? Does anyone think that Sloonei seemed more likely to vote for Elo or more likely to vote for ninja, at the time of his post (i.e., does his vote being cast for ninja seem logical, or do you believe he had a higher propensity to cast a vote for Elo, and thus you're left wondering, why ninja?) ?
I'll post again in a bit here.

I was surprised after reading that particular post that he went for me (it looked like he was leaning Elo), but not surprised in general (he's inclined to see me as bad when...I haven't ever been bad in a game with him :P )

MovingPictures07 wrote:Regarding where I am at this moment:

I have very slight suspicions of G-Man and Ninja. That being said, I think a lynch of Ninja right now would be "easy", and I'm consequently hesitant to cast my vote that way, or in G-Man's direction. I'm going to examine the players I have in my No Read section now.

That said, Ninja does have the highest propensity to receive my vote as well, but man, these lynch trains always make me nervous, and they do minimize the information we can gleam in subsequent Days from looking back at this lynch, especially if hardly anyone casts off.

If this is a lynch train on me, it should make you nervous - I am not bad and I'd really prefer to survive past Day 1, please. I'll say this - I wouldn't have bothered to post any of those thoughts as a baddie, because they have obviously drawn negative attention (and you know how much I hate drawing attention to myself). I have no one to discuss things like using adverbs and smileys, etc. except in the thread, and I generally (ooh, adverb!) say anything I want as a civ. I should probably stop doing that, but I'd rather feel free to talk.

Like just about everyone, I'm having a hell of a time deciding who to vote for, but as I've been writing this post, I've made up my mind. I'm still torn with G-Man - while, as I was reading, I found the points on him to be good, when I went back and read him myself, I didn't find anything too terribly ping-y (but I said something to this effect before). I think the point on Eloh's backtracking on Sloonei could be a baddie sign, but at the same time, and I hate sounding like I'm pulling a "no u"...I'm feeling iffy about Sloonei myself.

Sloonei wrote:@ ninnyjuju, you said you are "intrigued" by the theory about scums using more adverbs and smilies than others. That theory was brought up to be used against me. What do you think of me? As a player in this game, I mean.

While your play is similar to BoB (in which I'm 99% sure you were good) in terms of questioning people, etc., I have to agree with llama - you seem a lot more obsessed with others' reads of you and needling questions this time around. They seem more narcissistic rather than finding information in general for the benefit of the civs, which is really off (and might be what others are seeing as "off" in the thread). Yes, this line of thinking with the smileys, etc. is not the greatest way to find someone, but it's a way. And you did seem to back off on it when it was pointed out. You are my strongest ping, so I will vote you.

JESUS GOD ALMIGHTY THE LINKI IT NEVER STOPS

#453

Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja

#454

Ninja, did you have more thoughts incoming, or is that it? Just curious, not belittling what you've contributed.

Your post gives me pause, I will admit.

I think I'm leaning more toward G-Man than you, but I don't know, since I was re-thinking that for a reason.

Sigh.

#455

I'm still combing through 5 more pages to respond to, and I will, but for now, I'm voting Ehlo. Someone asked if DDL seemed "comfortable" and I don't really know what that means in respect to DDL because no one was really suspecting him. But ehlo's recent response seems comfortable and jokey, and it's standing out to me right now.

I also do not find anything Sloonei doing in this game different than the last game. Granted, I don't know if he was civ in that game, but it also doesn't ping me.

#456

In my re-reading, I am also pinged by the big deal being made out of G-Man's lie detector statements. Especially considering he said "I am not a mafia" which is an equally lie detectable statement as "I am a civvie".

Of the people making a fuss about it LoRab strikes me as most suspect, I may put my vote there.

#457

MovingPictures07 wrote:Ninja, did you have more thoughts incoming, or is that it? Just curious, not belittling what you've contributed.

Your post gives me pause, I will admit.

I think I'm leaning more toward G-Man than you, but I don't know, since I was re-thinking that for a reason.

Sigh.

Was there anything in particular you wanted me to address?

#458

I'm going to go ahead and vote Scotty. His buddying up to MP pinged me at first. MP pointed out that Scotty has been part of the discussion with out throwing out any of his own suspects. He also made a big deal about me voting late in B.O.B and he has yet to vote so I found that odd.

#459

nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Ninja, did you have more thoughts incoming, or is that it? Just curious, not belittling what you've contributed.

Your post gives me pause, I will admit.

I think I'm leaning more toward G-Man than you, but I don't know, since I was re-thinking that for a reason.

Sigh.
Was there anything in particular you wanted me to address?

I don't think so. Do you have any pings on anyone other than Sloonei? I assume not, but it's worth asking. Do you have any town reads?

#460

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm going to go ahead and vote Scotty. His buddying up to MP pinged me at first. MP pointed out that Scotty has been part of the discussion with out throwing out any of his own suspects. He also made a big deal about me voting late in B.O.B and he has yet to vote so I found that odd.

What do you think of his Elo vote, now that he has voted?

#461

Scotty wrote:I'm still combing through 5 more pages to respond to, and I will, but for now, I'm voting Ehlo. Someone asked if DDL seemed "comfortable" and I don't really know what that means in respect to DDL because no one was really suspecting him. But ehlo's recent response seems comfortable and jokey, and it's standing out to me right now.

I also do not find anything Sloonei doing in this game different than the last game. Granted, I don't know if he was civ in that game, but it also doesn't ping me.

Can you explain why you think this makes her mafia?

Can you answer my question, when you get a chance, about whether Metalmarsh's behavior being unhelpful makes him mafia or not? You've made quite a few comments saying that regarding him, but made no issuance of whether you suspected him or not, or anything like that.

#462

For a post in which she implies she took a stance after closer re-reading, Ninja sure went back to agreeing with llama on things and reading Sloonei as off based on that.

#463

Wowzers.

Ok so I've definitely read over a third of the posts now and skimmed another third or so. So I guess I haven't missed THAT much. However, poll end in 20 minutes and I have yet to post anything.

ALSO: I will be out camping and hiking and whitewater rafting from tomorrow evening until Sunday. Hopefully I'll be able to stay somewhat connected, but I'll be in the wilderness so I don't really know. Regardless, I'll be a full participant by Monday, assuming I am alive (both in game and in real life).

#464

Ricochet wrote:For a post in which she implies she took a stance after closer re-reading, Ninja sure went back to agreeing with llama on things and reading Sloonei as off based on that.

What are you thinking, Rico?

#465

I don't buy that Ninja Blooper is mafia. I am roughly 50-50 on Sloonei and G-Man, but I think I will go Sloonei today. He seems way too defensive to me.

#466

thellama73 wrote:I don't buy that Ninja Blooper is mafia. I am roughly 50-50 on Sloonei and G-Man, but I think I will go Sloonei today. He seems way too defensive to me.

Can you elaborate? Why?

#467

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm going to go ahead and vote Scotty. His buddying up to MP pinged me at first. MP pointed out that Scotty has been part of the discussion with out throwing out any of his own suspects. He also made a big deal about me voting late in B.O.B and he has yet to vote so I found that odd.
What do you think of his Elo vote, now that he has voted?

I really don't understand why he would vote that way when he said he was looking at people who weren't posting. Elo has posted more the LC so why not vote LC.

#468

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm going to go ahead and vote Scotty. His buddying up to MP pinged me at first. MP pointed out that Scotty has been part of the discussion with out throwing out any of his own suspects. He also made a big deal about me voting late in B.O.B and he has yet to vote so I found that odd.

I'll give you that I am voting late, which is rather uncharacteristic. And you have been more proactive than how I remember you. I'm rather flustered at the last minute here, as I thought I would have another hour before the deadline, but ehh. Fair enough.

I still don't understand the "buddying". If my offhand comment about agreeing with MP's opinion on first-day lynching is to be considered "buddying" then sure, we're buddies, we're getting married next week and having 5 beautiful illegitimate children.

For the record, I'm getting strong civ read from you Bass, though you are suspicious of me

#469

Rico wrote:I can't help noticing how nobody's bringing Dharma up for the same "policy", considering how much he rekt the civs in Omerta.

Straight rekt.
No survivors

#470

MovingPictures07 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I don't buy that Ninja Blooper is mafia. I am roughly 50-50 on Sloonei and G-Man, but I think I will go Sloonei today. He seems way too defensive to me.
Can you elaborate? Why?

The burden of proof is on the person trying to convince me that she is mafia. I don't have to have a reason not to believe.

#471

MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja

If no one was finding me suspicious, I would most likely vote for G-man or sloonei (I know I said I would table my thoughts on sloonei). But, I am still back and forth on sloonei. He now finds me suspicious b/c I reread him and decided that I couldn't find any hard evidence against him? What?!? I wish G-Man would come in and talk.

But it looks like I may be trying to save myself :/

#472

Because LC is not necessarily a no-show. He hasn't posted today, for sure, but I feel like there is more to be said of how little quality Ehlo has posted, and considering her doublespeak when it comes to Day 1 philosophies, where she is committing the thing she talked about disagreeing with.

#473

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:For a post in which she implies she took a stance after closer re-reading, Ninja sure went back to agreeing with llama on things and reading Sloonei as off based on that.

What are you thinking, Rico?

I don't know. It's 10 minutes to go and it feels crazy. It doesn't feel bandwagony, but I guess I still would have wanted to read more words of her own, since she intended a comeback for a serious case.

#474

LoRab wrote:
Sloonei wrote:If you think G-man phrased his post oddly because of he was wary of the lie detector, does hos exact wording mean anything to you? He does not "pose a threat to the civvies." Does that strike you as the sort of thing scum would say to avoid being caught by a lie detector.
His rationale about not claiming civ due to role claim restrictions does seem a bit odd, i'll give you that.
And I'll also ask for more suspects again. Who besides G-man are you looking at, LoRab?
"Does not pose a threat to the civies" does seem like the sort of thing a baddie would say, yes. Especially if they don't have a power that doesn't have a direct, negative impact on others.

And, at this point, no one else is standing out to me. I'm often a 1 suspect at a time kind of gal. Also, day 1, so not much to go on.

Bull. Shit.

Also, Vote LoRab

#475

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm going to go ahead and vote Scotty. His buddying up to MP pinged me at first. MP pointed out that Scotty has been part of the discussion with out throwing out any of his own suspects. He also made a big deal about me voting late in B.O.B and he has yet to vote so I found that odd.
What do you think of his Elo vote, now that he has voted?
I really don't understand why he would vote that way when he said he was looking at people who weren't posting. Elo has posted more the LC so why not vote LC.

I agree. I think you're onto something, Bass.

I think Scotty's Elo vote seems disingenuous. I actually am leaning toward casting my vote there.

His vote is super weak reasoning to me, like he had to come up with SOME reason to justify a vote:

Scotty wrote:I'm still combing through 5 more pages to respond to, and I will, but for now, I'm voting Ehlo. Someone asked if DDL seemed "comfortable" and I don't really know what that means in respect to DDL because no one was really suspecting him. But ehlo's recent response seems comfortable and jokey, and it's standing out to me right now.

I also do not find anything Sloonei doing in this game different than the last game. Granted, I don't know if he was civ in that game, but it also doesn't ping me.

Hence why I asked him to elaborate here.

He doesn't even say why "comfortable and jokey" from Elo makes her likely to be a member of the mafia. He says it's "standing out", but again, how does that mean he is casting his vote for someone that he thinks is bad?

Even further, he makes no mention of Elo being a low poster as the reason for his vote, which I find odd, since he called her out for being a low poster, and here he emphasizes he is focusing on no shows.

Combine that with the fact that he kept harping on MM being "unhelpful", which is something I've done in past games as a mafia to try to take advantage of his unconventional playstyle, yet refusing to issue an issue of suspicion on him, and I'm really starting to suspect Scotty.

#476

I'm voting Scotty.

G-Man and Ninja can wait. I feel most comfortable with this.

#477

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja
If no one was finding me suspicious, I would most likely vote for G-man or sloonei (I know I said I would table my thoughts on sloonei). But, I am still back and forth on sloonei. He now finds me suspicious b/c I reread him and decided that I couldn't find any hard evidence against him? What?!? I wish G-Man would come in and talk.

But it looks like I may be trying to save myself :/

Why did you read him as "scummy" the first time, then? Moreover, why did you give in to a "vibe" rather than rereading him, if it would have left to the same lack of hard evidence, in theory?

#478

Scotty wrote:Because LC is not necessarily a no-show. He hasn't posted today, for sure, but I feel like there is more to be said of how little quality Ehlo has posted, and considering her doublespeak when it comes to Day 1 philosophies, where she is committing the thing she talked about disagreeing with.

Ironic, perhaps, but how does that make her bad?

#479

MovingPictures07 wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Ninja, did you have more thoughts incoming, or is that it? Just curious, not belittling what you've contributed.

Your post gives me pause, I will admit.

I think I'm leaning more toward G-Man than you, but I don't know, since I was re-thinking that for a reason.

Sigh.
Was there anything in particular you wanted me to address?
I don't think so. Do you have any pings on anyone other than Sloonei? I assume not, but it's worth asking. Do you have any town reads?

There are a lot of names being thrown around. G-Man's not off the radar - like I said in the last two posts, his posts themselves don't give me pause, but things that others have pointed out do (I know that's vague as hell, and I can elaborate when I'm not so danged hungry :P ). I also want to go back and look at others' "playful" interaction with you at the beginning of this game to rile you up and see if I can find anything worth looking at there. It was on my mind earlier but in the major catch-up party I've had to complete in the last hour or so, I'd forgotten about it.

Linki whirlwind!!

#480

Ok, I had very complicated day IRL today and I've barely had time/energy (specially energy) to catch up. Still got two phages left to read.

But I don't wanna miss the vote, so here it goes. I'm going with Sloonei. Something about his posting style feels off. There's a lot of asking opinions of others and fluffing, and his actual opinions seem pretty on the fence. That isn't much different to how he played Economics, but this time it's giving me more of a scum vibe. Something about him feels too nice Also I think this ninju bandwagon reeks of an artifical one, since as much as her first post looked suspicious, it not that suspicious to warrant a lynch, and her defense later felt legit, so Sloonei may be a baddie trying to push that wagon.

I realize this post is is not as deep of an analysis as I wish it was since it's coming from someone who just skimmed over 100 posts and still has another 100 left to read, but that's all I can do today.

#481

Completely frantic at work.

Haven't caught up on thread since I last posted. Haven't even looked at poll situation. Voted Ninja. Will we back in about two hours.

#482

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja
If no one was finding me suspicious, I would most likely vote for G-man or sloonei (I know I said I would table my thoughts on sloonei). But, I am still back and forth on sloonei. He now finds me suspicious b/c I reread him and decided that I couldn't find any hard evidence against him? What?!? I wish G-Man would come in and talk.

But it looks like I may be trying to save myself :/

Give me one adjective to describe why you find Sloonei possibly suspicious. What is it exactly? First word that comes to mind.

#483

What an interesting Day 1.

#484

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm voting Scotty.

G-Man and Ninja can wait. I feel most comfortable with this.

I am doing my best in the time frame, but unfortunately I will nto be able to explain myself further in the matter of 5 minutes.

I will link more to attempt to explain myself in a bit, if i don;t get killed
STOP LINKI

#485

Scotty wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE WHY ARE THERE ALREADY 7 PAGES

I'm going to bed. I'll catch up with this tomorrow
You know, I've been in bed now for 2 hours. One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was bringing my laptop with me. Good on you, ninja

I sympathize with Ninja.

The G-Man alignment discussion started out feeling to me like a really solid case, but as I thought about it more it got so WIFOM-y that I really can't make head nor tail of it now. I will say, though, for what it's worth, that every single non-civ role in this game seems pretty darn anti-civ, especially now that we know for sure Watchmen are civs. So saying you're not anti-civ = saying you're civ, in my mind. I don't think that would fool a lie detector test, but I also can't figure why he'd bother wording it so carefully. (By the way, as MM pointed out, the LD discussion seemed super superfluous. Who even brought that up?) I could potentially see myself voting there, but I can't say I'm fully convinced he's bad.

I do think llama may be onto something with Sloonei (mainly because of Sloonei's defensiveness), but I didn't really try to read players for alignment in Economics, so I don't have a strong opinion on his civ game. I'd have to read Economics again, and it's 100 pages so no thank you. But I don't see myself voting there either.

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Llama, why did you decide to poke me a lot today? Just curious.
Good question. I noticed you were in rather a literal mood, and I saw an opportunity to feel you out, so I took it. Your responses made me feel a lot better about you for what that's worth.
So far I feel good about:
MP
Golden
Russ

and I feel bad about:
G-Man
Sloonei

DH's not feeling like doing a rainbow list is noteworthy too, though not enough for a vote yet. I know I am always a little more apathetic about baddie hunting when I am myself bad.

Everyone else has yet to make a strong impression on me.

This is weird to me. I mean, I appreciate the support and all, but I haven't really done anything useful yet. So that makes me a little suspicious of llama.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Did anyone else notice how Elo seemingly jumped onto a vibes-based suspicion of Sloonei (which I held), and then dropped it, after I dropped it? What do folks think of that? I'm not sure what to make of Elo right now.

I think Elo always does that. I also always suspect Elo in every game I play with her, and it's probably just confirmation bias talking, but I feel like she has actually been bad in most of our games played together.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have also decided to combine gun-to-head reads with the Rainbow Lists to create my own Smiley-Infused list. I wrote each players name down, put them into a hat, shook it up, and began selecting names. As I drew names, I would gun-to-head assign a different smiley to each player. Here is my outcome.

Bass_the_Clever
Cookie
DharmaHelper
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
espers
G-Man
Golden
Long Con
LoRab
Metalmarsh89
MovingPictures07
nijuukyugou
Ricochet
Russtifinko
Scotty
Sloonei
thellama73
timmer

I love this post.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, I'm here. Who's around to discuss? I'm catching up now, shouldn't take long.

Liar! It most certainly will take long.

#486

DharmaHelper wrote:What an interesting Day 1.

No kidding. One of the best I've seen, especially in a speed game.

#487

Ricochet wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja
If no one was finding me suspicious, I would most likely vote for G-man or sloonei (I know I said I would table my thoughts on sloonei). But, I am still back and forth on sloonei. He now finds me suspicious b/c I reread him and decided that I couldn't find any hard evidence against him? What?!? I wish G-Man would come in and talk.

But it looks like I may be trying to save myself :/
Why did you read him as "scummy" the first time, then? Moreover, why did you give in to a "vibe" rather than rereading him, if it would have left to the same lack of hard evidence, in theory?

I didn't give into a vibe, I just mentioned it. He challenged me to reread him and I found nothing astoundingly scummy. That was all. But his response to my response IS scummy to me.

MP your case on scotty makes a lot of sense.

#488

I'm thinking Elo, G-Man, or llama, myself. Probably in that order of suspicion. Though G-Man, then Elo, might work too. Have to vote, ahhhh!

#489

I voted sloonei b/c of his response to me. That was odd for a civ.

#490

Went G-Man. Mainly because what I said about always being suspicious of Elo. I think I should give her a breather.

#491

voted sloonei

Sloonei wrote:In response to MP's points toward me (my laptop is old and terrible and doing this thing where it takes a half hour just to start up, and I don't feel like waiting for that just so I can format a post more easily, so this is a messy phoned-in attempt at a post), I have so far only played with a G-man that is completely light and playful in all his posts (due to those reasons I mentioned earlier), so when I came in to the thread on Day 0 and saw him being perhaps the most active person in leading the discussion, regardless of how serious he says it was at the time, it was a very noticeable change in style for him. It is too minor a point to earn him a townie label just yet, but it was the strongest read I got in any direction after 3 pages of activity. "Sincere" was probably not the right word. "Active" or "aggressive"' would have been more accurate. I will hold off on commenting on the actual content of his posts until there's more of it.

Also I never expressed my suspicion of you while you were in BoB, I only mentioned it after Epi had subbed in for you. I can't find any of the posts (i made a lot of them in that game), but my point was essentially that I felt like your response to the fake truce banter on Day 0 felt a bit too preemptively defensive. Your behavior here reminded me vaguely of that.

didn't buy mp's original suspicion but this defence feels overwrought. not a strong case but I've gotta be decisive. i'm not feeling good about nijuu as I said before.

#492

thellama73 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:What an interesting Day 1.
No kidding. One of the best I've seen, especially in a speed game.

It's because Bass is in the house.

#493

Elohcin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, thanks!

How about: Where are you leaning for your vote today? Has it changed at all?

Linki with Ninja
If no one was finding me suspicious, I would most likely vote for G-man or sloonei (I know I said I would table my thoughts on sloonei). But, I am still back and forth on sloonei. He now finds me suspicious b/c I reread him and decided that I couldn't find any hard evidence against him? What?!? I wish G-Man would come in and talk.

But it looks like I may be trying to save myself :/
Why did you read him as "scummy" the first time, then? Moreover, why did you give in to a "vibe" rather than rereading him, if it would have left to the same lack of hard evidence, in theory?

I didn't give into a vibe, I just mentioned it. He challenged me to reread him and I found nothing astoundingly scummy. That was all. But his response to my response IS scummy to me.

MP your case on scotty makes a lot of sense.

There's a case on Scotty? I think I missed it. Anyone with a reminder or link to the case?

MP, your policy of underlining names to direct things to people is super helpful, btw.

#494

This is impossible to fully address. How 'bout we start endgame two hours earlier next time? Sticking with Eloh for now.

#495

The rest of my re-read will have to wait. I'm personally wondering why it is a Day 1 poll is so torn as opposed to an easy, blendy bandwagon.

#496

espers wrote:voted sloonei

Sloonei wrote:In response to MP's points toward me (my laptop is old and terrible and doing this thing where it takes a half hour just to start up, and I don't feel like waiting for that just so I can format a post more easily, so this is a messy phoned-in attempt at a post), I have so far only played with a G-man that is completely light and playful in all his posts (due to those reasons I mentioned earlier), so when I came in to the thread on Day 0 and saw him being perhaps the most active person in leading the discussion, regardless of how serious he says it was at the time, it was a very noticeable change in style for him. It is too minor a point to earn him a townie label just yet, but it was the strongest read I got in any direction after 3 pages of activity. "Sincere" was probably not the right word. "Active" or "aggressive"' would have been more accurate. I will hold off on commenting on the actual content of his posts until there's more of it.

Also I never expressed my suspicion of you while you were in BoB, I only mentioned it after Epi had subbed in for you. I can't find any of the posts (i made a lot of them in that game), but my point was essentially that I felt like your response to the fake truce banter on Day 0 felt a bit too preemptively defensive. Your behavior here reminded me vaguely of that.
didn't buy mp's original suspicion but this defence feels overwrought. not a strong case but I've gotta be decisive. i'm not feeling good about nijuu as I said before.

ebwop: feeling good about nijuu as a lynch candidate, that is.

#497

DharmaHelper wrote:The rest of my re-read will have to wait. I'm personally wondering why it is a Day 1 poll is so torn as opposed to an easy, blendy bandwagon.

Maybe no one is actually bad?

#498

to paraphrase my RYM brethren: END DAT DAY

#499

Hey Bass, I see one Watchman who could very easily go all LMS on us. Who's the other who you think can turn against civ interests??

#500

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Rico, I understand. I don't think Ninja feels as "safe" as it did earlier either. She is definitely high on my radar going into Day 2 if she survives today, but I found myself feeling more comfortable voting elsewhere, at least for today's vote. Not sure I'm really moving her from "very slight mafia" read right now, one way or the other.

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Ninja/Blooper, I look forward to your elaborations, especially after you've looked into that. Did anything in that interaction, at the time, give you any reason to believe that would be the case, specifically? If you can't recall, I look forward to seeing it once you have the capacity to revisit it.

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DDL, I'm sorry to hear you had a bad day. Hope tomorrow's a better one for you.

I do think your vote reasoning seems almost as weak as Scotty's, but I understand your RL situation, as well as Scotty being caught at work, so I look forward to what both of you have to say once the madness stops.

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Scotty, don't sweat it. I can empathize. I'm sorry I voted for you today suddenly (well, only if you're mafia, but either way I hate voting someone out of nowhere on Day 1), but I wasn't feeling too confident in any of my reads, and your vote pinged me pretty bad. I really look forward to hearing what you have to contribute later on, if you do survive.

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Russ, I can appreciate your RL situation. Thanks for contributing what you have been thinking nonetheless.

Regarding the quote here, I was referring to myself, since I only had one page to read at the time. :P

Russtifinko wrote:I'm thinking Elo, G-Man, or llama, myself. Probably in that order of suspicion. Though G-Man, then Elo, might work too. Have to vote, ahhhh!

You suspect yourself? :P

DharmaHelper wrote:What an interesting Day 1.

No kidding. Love it!

Who deserves justice?