[ENDGAME] Bullets Over Broadway Mafia

#4551

Time to figure out who Bonnie & Clyde is then. I hope you're right about Jekyll & Hyde, Golden.

Atm, Spacedaisy is back to my number 1 suspect, with the Wildhorn killer still being an active player.

#4552

Act Two, Scene One

ENTER SINGER AND METALMARSH, ROLLING ON STAGE KISSING

THE SINGER GETS UP AND SPOT ON HER.

SINGER: I shall vote out Team Wildhorn
Pin my vote on a nice piece of mafia
Days and nights we’ve been feeling worn
We'll go lynching, meanwhile

It's a thought and a vote and a hanging from the sky
And I'll tie the rope from the rafters, a hunch and a feeling
In the sealing of a trickster’s fate

It's a very short road from the kills and the death
To the case and the lynch and the civ win
It's a very short road ‘til we can take a breath
And relief and reveals and the sigh

In the meanwhile there are baddies to be lynched
Before civs to accuse and a lot in between
In the meanwhile
And a civ ought to concentrate on who lies and lies.

EXIT SINGER

METALMARSH: What was that?

ENTER BONNIE AND CLYDE
B/C: Bang Bang! You're dead.

Metalmarsh dies from gunshot wounds.

EXIT.

Metalmarsh89 has been killed.
It is now day 16. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

#4553

who murdered saloon???? (changebale)

Poll ended at Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:46 pm

Devin
0
No votes
SpaceDaisy
0
No votes
Fingersplints
5
Golden (2), Metalmarsh89 (4), nijuukyugou (6), Spacedaisy (11), S~V~S (12) 38%
Golden
0
No votes
Gumshoe
0
No votes
MetalMarsh89
0
No votes
nijuukyugou
0
No votes
SVS 2.0
0
No votes
It was John Michael LaChuisa!
8
Sloonei (1), nutella (3), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Dom (7), Heiots (8), Made (9), Steve Harvey (10), MovingPictures07 (13) 62%
Total votes : 13

#4554

Ah rats. Saw that coming.

Golden, I don't know if we'll ever acheive this recors again.

#4555

good game MM, it's pretty impressive stuff.

Yay, only a 24 hour day, that's what we need.

I have some thoughts, but I'm really interested to hear what the rest of you have to say first.

I will say, though, that given a kill has gone in, a lynch of Devin or Gumshoe seems like a waste of time to me.

#4556

I looked over the kills, and unless I've missed something, Team Wildhorn seems to have only missed one kill on Night 4. Night 8 is still mysterious as there is no kill flavor, but given it's an even night, the attempt was likely made by them. There is flavor to whoever completes the NK, as evident in the difference between the Phantom killing (chandelier) and Starlight on Night 3 (rollerskating murderers). Dunno about actual Webber killings. For Team 2, sometimes the night post mentions that Bonnie and Clyde specifically do the killing; sometimes, there's only a gunshot, or a car, with no name attached to it, so it's difficult to tell who's doing the killing and when since the beginning of the game, although I assume it's Wildhorn until LC's lynch and B&C from then on, unless there's a second corruption. Which brings me to who's left for vote for.

Devin - Inactive. Not concerned at the moment.
SpaceDaisy - Replaced DREAM, a completely inactive player, Day 10.
Golden - Active entire game, but had a kill attempt made on him by Team 2 on Night 2.
Gumshoe - Inactive. Not concerned at the moment.
nijuukyugou - Good to the last drop

SVS - Replaced TH, a completely inactive player, Day 6.

LC was lynched Day 4. Black Rock was lynched Day 7. We don't know when/if Jekyll and Hyde were lynched exactly. Once again, Team 2 seems to have only missed one kill on Night 4. These facts altogether rule out Daisy for me. So I have two possibilities in my mind - SVS replaced a baddie TH, or Golden has been corrupted (but that wouldn't change him to Bonnie and Clyde). So, by logic, I'm leaning towards the former. I want to see what others think, and to see if I've messed up my logic/facts in any way (I've stayed up far too late for this). I'm done for the night.

#4557

@ninja - if taking MM's theories at face value, I don't think daisy can be ruled out.

BR could have sent in the kill 'from B & C' until night 6. We don't know if wildhorn attempted a kill on night 8. Daisy was around by night 10. Cars and gunshots do lead to the implication that Bonnie & Clyde is sending in the kills, though.

I can't see any way that MM's theory about being able to send in the kill from a different teammate could be wrong at this point - because TH/SVS were also away during night 5 or 6, and only BR and possibly whoever was jekyll could have still been alive to do it.

Did SVS really sub in that early? I thought she subbed in around the same time as daisy.

I'm fairly sure jekyll is dead because their vote manipulation ability would have been critical at this end of the game and there is no evidence that's its been seen for some time.

#4558

I subbed in the same time as JJJ. You maybe thought I was later because I missed a vote an didn't post for almost 2 game days. I was not ready to come off break so early I think. Then I felt like a jerk and came back and got involved. I didn't even come onsite in that time.

I am not Wildhorn. Black Rock continuing to jump on THs bacon pretty hard after she was recruited; that pretty much puts that to paid IMO. BR is like me that way. She's not much of as busser. And I don't believe Golden's role to be corruptible. I went back and looked, Golden. Yeah.

I have no idea what happened night 4 but I can guarantee you it had nothing to do with TH.

#4559

Unfortunately, Daisy subbed in too late to make any meaningful connections with teammates.

SVS did not. Given her day 6 entry, if she was on team wildhorn there is slight overlap with BR. There is enough in a read back to make a very small case that SVS is a teammate of BR, but I don't find it overly convincing. I would think that if SVS had subbed into a team in which BR knew she was going down, SVS (and BR) would have been ok with a bus.

All in all, I would lean slightly more towards daisy being bad than SVS right now... but im particularly interested in what the two of them have to say.

linki - and there is SVS! And SVS, I didn't think to look for links to TH, but I should.

And SVS - you went back and looked

does that give some context as to why I think people may not have tried to kill me? Particularly if its daisy who is bad, who I think has role checked me?

#4560

I think people try to kill you based on what you say, not who you are when you say it.

And unless we know has/when/if Jekyll died (Ninja is leaving that role out of her analysis) we don't know who overlapped with whom. Plus wasn't there a fail kill that night?

#4561

In any case I did not kill anyone, because I can't kill anyone

#4562

It's also interesting that you mention a role checker. One of the roles I had in mind for B & C was a power stealer, who would learn a role in the process. Now I really have to go get ready for work, lol.

#4563

I'm sorry to have been absent guys. Internet was down again last night into today. In any case, I feel comfortable with an SVS lynch based upon a process of elimination. I have too much to get done today to risk waiting to vote and I feel confident enough to cast it now so I will.

*vote SVS*

#4564

S~V~S wrote:It's also interesting that you mention a role checker. One of the roles I had in mind for B & C was a power stealer, who would learn a role in the process. Now I really have to go get ready for work, lol.

Nah, its not a role thing. The reason I suspect it has to do with the trivia contest.

#4565

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:It's also interesting that you mention a role checker. One of the roles I had in mind for B & C was a power stealer, who would learn a role in the process. Now I really have to go get ready for work, lol.
Nah, its not a role thing. The reason I suspect it has to do with the trivia contest.

I think you're selling yourself short, but OK.

Well, I am going to vote for Daisy. As she says,process of elimination. Plus, as I said, some type of robbery would be a logical power for B & C. So a role check with a power use would be a good guess. Didn't we have two kills and or attempts one day? Or two silences? Although with the amount of silence in this game in general it would be hard to say. But if you think she checked you

#4566

Well Ninja, I really don't want a tie, so I'm voting with you.

I feel like Daisy is the better way to go, but if you really think it is SVS I will roll with you.

I'm also certain that if we get this right the game will end. Jekyll is not alive.

Jekyll targetted me on day four or 5. SVS, Daisy, Gumshoe and Devin were not around at that time. Jekyll is also not the singer, given their role is clearly revealed.

#4567

She didn't vote yet

#4568

S~V~S wrote:She didn't vote yet

I know... neither did I.

And I'm not going to until I know what she is thinking.

#4569

I am not bad. Like not at all. I am surprised to see you riding someone elses coattails.

#4570

Ninja totally left J & H out of her analysis. Who do you think was that role? When do you think they died?

#4571

S~V~S wrote:I am not bad. Like not at all. I am surprised to see you riding someone elses coattails.

Ninja and I have to come to a consensus. That's not cottail riding, thats just a fact. We have to vote together. If we do not, there is a tie, and noone gets lynched, and that is not helpful at all.

I think daisy not you is the baddie, but I'm open to a persuasive argument if ninja really thinks you are.

linki - I think it is either bubbles or neverwhere. Probably bubbles. But there are plenty of possibilities. It's enough for me that I've ruled out everyone else alive from being J&H. Whoever it was, they are definitely dead.

#4572

Well, I would expect you to vote for the person you actually think is bad as opposed to voting to avoid a tie. Especially with your role. Then again, good or bad isn't that important I guess, by the same lights. I guess I wanted to win with you because I still love my original role, and wish I had not thrown it away.

So whatever you do works for me. I have said all I have to say. I think Daisy is bad, and Ninjas analysis is faulty since she left important things out of it.

#4573

If the two of you have a consensus, then let her vote with you

Daisy isn't coming back, and i am here suffering lol.

#4574

Sorry, today's been stupid busy getting ready for the next few days

Golden, I hate to say it, but it's really a crapshoot for me. That was just logic analysis, and a late-night rather skimpy one at that. I actually gut-feel better about voting Daisy, and her quick vote, although I know she is busier than anyone, just felt weird. (Boy, this feels like Biblical Mafia all over again, except I'm not on the chopping block :P ) So, wanna vote Daisy?

God, this is stressful.

#4575

Screw it. I gotta leave again, so I'm gonna bite the bullet over Broadway and vote Daisy. Come what may.

#4576

Good call ninja.

I'm pretty sure it is daisy, I have some really good reasons for feeling that way. And I felt the same way SVS does about us winning together. It's so fitting

#4577

Now I hope/wish Dom would turn up early and end the day!

#4578

Also SVS, I'm glad the silver buddha saved you from death. Do you know how you survived that attempted kill?

#4579

Are we cool with ending the day early?

#4580

I am fine with it.

#4581

Lynch post coming up!

#4582

I so hope this is the win.

#4583

Me too

#4584

#4585

Go living players!

#4586

Act Two, Scene One

ENTER SPACEDAISY.

CUE: ARPEGGIO. SPOT ON SPACEDAISY. CUE: ARPEGGIO

SHE JUMPS OFF THE STAGE INTO THE PIT AND DIES.

ENTER THE GHOST OF DOM
GHOST DOM: ATTEND THE TALE OF SWEENEY DOM.

ENTER NJU, GOLDEN, GUMSHOE, AND SVS.

GHOST DOM: CUSTAMAH'S!?

DOM PULLS OUT PIES FOR THEM ALL TO EAT. AS THEY EAT, DOM PACKS UP DEVIN'S CLOTHES AND PUTS THEM INTO THE FIREPLACE OF HIS SHOP.

EXIT GHOST DOM.

SVS WALKS AWAY FROM GUMSHOE, GOLDEN AND NJU. SHE TURNS AROUND AND SHOOTS BOTH GUMSHOE AND NJU.

SHE GRABS GOLDEN'S HAND. THEY TAKE CENTER STAGE AND BOW.

EXIT.

END GAME.

Spacedaisy was lynched. She was Songs For a New World. There were two nights as a result of her lynching. Kevin has been mod-killed. NJU has been killed. Gumshoe has been killed.
Team Wildhorn has won. Richard Rodgers has won.
Congrats to SVS, Long Con, Black Rock, Bass_The_Clever, and Golden!

Details coming up!

#4587

And that is why I wanted Ninja to have the choice... since I would win either way, and she was deciding her own fate but not mine.

But given SVS and I were to be serial killer partners.... if I hadn't gone and lynched her on day one... it seemed better that I would win with her.

Sorry Ninja - I really wanted both you and SVS to win. Well played at the end there, SVS.

And Bass wins again too :o I don't believe it.

(And LC - I think you winning with me is kind of fitting, all things considered, eh?)

#4588

Well played of you Golden to let her decide. I was pretty much on pins & needles there.

#4589

I will never let Golden survive past Day 1 again. EVER!

Good game. Well played Golden. I let myself get duped by your accidental reversed nightkill.

#4590

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will never let Golden survive past Day 1 again. EVER!

Good game. Well played Golden. I let myself get duped by your accidental reversed nightkill.

I wasn't bad MM. I was indy.

#4591

Yeah, he just survived to the end. I was bad.

#4592

My plan was essentially... get civ cred early, then bandwagon so that the baddie teams wouldn't see any reason to kill me.

The hardest part of the game was when JJ started calling me out for being on bandwagons. It was like... yes I am JJ. That's exactly where I want to be. It's a tough line to straddle between not being lynched and not being NKed.

SVS, why did you survive the night kill?

#4593

I also legitimately was working to get a civ win.

#4594

I had 2 powers; a role check/power steal (hee hee) and a protect. Once the rest of the team was dead, I protected myself every other night. I was going on the wrong night due to just the way it worked out before Bass died, but LC suggested I skip a few nights and reset the protect schedule so i would be protected when the other team killed like right before they tried to kill me.

#4595

I don't know why I survived the night 2 attempted kill. But I'm glad I did.

#4596

So the title guy lost eh, nijuu?

I just needed to stay alive to win. Jesus guys. I tried not to annoy anyone. Hell.

#4597

Role List:

Sondheim vs. Lloyd Weber Mafia
Hosted by: Dom
Total Roles: 28

Sondheim and Brown – The Civilians (17 Roles)
Stephen Sondheim – Composer and lyricist, an actor favorite. Sondheim is the king of Broadway. His shows are masterpieces. Sondheim writes a song for every night post. These songs come from love, because if they don’t, there’s no point.
West Side Story – There’s a place for us, somewhere a place for us. Star-crossed lovers, and all that. West Side Story can implement a time of peace, where no death will take place for one full phase. This will not be announced to the thread. However, upon the violence resuming, a massacre occurs. One random player will die, however West Side Story can select 5 players to protect from this.
Gypsy – Everything’s coming up Roses. Mama Rose is a dominant woman who may or may not have destroyed her children, who knows? Gypsy can stop one lynch.
A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum – Tragedy tomorrow, Comedy tonight! Sondheim’s first solo venture received rave reviews. Targets one player each night who will be insanified using a device at the choosing of the owner of this role.
Company – Somebody hold me too close, Somebody hurt me too deep. Bobby has commitment issues. On night 3, Company can establish anonymous BTSC with a player of their choosing.
A Little Night Music – And I shall marry the miller’s son. Don’t you dare mention Send In the Clowns. Aristocrats get privileges—will survive the first attempt on their life. Additionally can protect one player each night. Cannot protect themselves.
Merrily We Roll Along – We’re opening doors! Sondheim’s flop, but one of my favorite musicals of all time, Merrily We Roll Along is about friendships that disintegrate—targets one player every night, if they have BTSC it will be disbanded for the next day period.
Anyone Can Whistle – Everybody says don’t, everybody says don’t, everybody says don’t walk on the grass. Anyone Can Whistle has its obvious political commentaries. Did not do very well commercially, but is considered a classic Sondheim piece in terms of its musical stylings. Vote is worth 2.
Sweeney Todd – It’s priest. Try a little priest. Have you seen Cannibalism THE MUSICAL, yet? You should. Sweeney Todd has one night kill to use throughout the entire game.
Sunday In the Park With George – Bit by bit, putting it together! One of a select few musicals with a Pulitzer Prize, Sunday in the Park With George is considered one of Sondheim’s greatest works. Sunday in the Park With George can read Marie’s diary every even night, providing him with the role of a player who has passed.
Into The Woods – Into the Woods to get the thing that makes it worth the journeying. A musical about consequences, responsibility, adulthood, and the human condition, this show may be my favorite Sondheim piece. Into the Woods will break any tie that may exist in a lynch poll. Upon this role’s death, all ties will result in a no-lynch. Into the Woods also may pardon one lynch.
Evening Primrose – I remember sky. Sondheim’s television musical, Evening Primrose is an oft overlooked piece. Evening Primrose can make 1 person’s vote worth 0 in the next day.
Jason Robert Brown – Jason Robert Brown is a contemporary analogue of Stephen Sondheim. Musical and lyrical genius, his scores sway Tony voters consistently. Jason Robert Brown can target one person each night and redirect their target to another player.
Songs for a New World – Jenny’s afraid of water, I mean she swims and all, but still: she’s afraid of water. A song cycle about so much more than what you’d think. Songs for a New World can stop time. Upon their death, there will be a second day. If they are night killed, there will be two days in a row. If they are lynched, two nights will follow.
Parade – Well, hey, sunshine! Sunshine? Looks like rain to me. A tragic story of injustice, Parade will definitely make you cry. Because of the injustice it has already suffered, Parade can switch one lynch to a player of their choosing.
The Last Five Years – I stand on a precipice, I struggle to keep my balance, I open myself, I open myself one stitch at a time. What might be my favorite musical, The Last Five Years is Divorce! The Musical! The Last Five Years can break a person’s heart each night, thus blocking them.
The Bridges of Madison County – And love is always better. A steamy, four day love affair about a woman’s agency. Due to the affair’s secret nature, it must be kept quiet. Secrets are essential-- they get a snippet of BTSC each night.
Lloyd Weber – Baddie Team 1 (4 Roles)
Andrew Lloyd Weber – A true monster. A true, true monster. Andrew is nothing short of despicable and is only capable of creating mediocre art during his early period. Later, his ‘art’ turned to utter garbage. Sir Andrew kills on odd nights.
The Phantom of the Opera – The Phantom of the Opera is there, inside my mind. Sir Andrew’s Magnus Opus, the Phantom kidnaps a player each night and silences them. It’s unbreakable run also makes it immune from night powers.
Starlight Express – Starlight express, answer me yes. This has to be one of the stupidest musicals ever conceived. Starlight Express is so bad that it blocks one player each night.
Cats – Memory, all alone in the moonlight. Also known as one of the single most overrated musicals in the music-theatre-canon, Cats was on Broadway for a long time and for some reason is being revived in London. Cats can suffer in its own memory and role check a dead player every night.
Wildhorn – Baddie Team 2 (3 Roles)
Frank Wildhorn – A mediocre composer at best, Frank has been ostracized in the community because he’s kind of, reportedly, rude. Frank kills on even nights. On odd nights, Frank targets a player-- something might happen.
Wildhorn can corrupt one of Sondheim’s flops (Anyone Can Whistle, Merrily We Roll Along, or Evening Primrose.

Jekyll & Hyde – If I could reach you, if I could guide and teach you. It’s the classic tale—musicalized! Targets one player a night who must attempt to lynch another player. If that player is not lynched in three days, the targeted player will receive one extra vote in every lynch against them. Will show up as civilian upon lynching.
Bonnie and Clyde – I’d rather breathe in life than dusty air. Should it have run longer? Probably. Is it as good as people want it to be? Not particularly. Bonnie and Clyde protects one player each night phase. Bonnie and Clyde can also complete ‘jobs’ on odd nights, which will allow them to 1) role check a player and 2) use their power the following night, if applicable. Because of their ability to run from the police, B&C also can stop one lynch.
Independents (2 Roles)
Andrew Lippa – And we were having a wild, wild party! Andrew Lippa probably needs a lyricist, thus, he searches for someone every night. Lippa searches for the lyricists (Sondheim, Brown, Schwartz, and Hammerstein) and if he finds ¾ before he dies, he only has to survive to the end to win.
Stephen Schwartz – I’ve gotta be someone who lives all of his life in superlatives. Schwartz writes some interesting material. He eavesdrops on his neighbors to see what they are saying and receives a snippet of BTSC every night. Wins if he is alive at the end of the game.
Serial Killers (2 Roles)
Oscar Hammerstein II – Some enchanted evening, you may find a stranger.. Looks for his longtime partner, Richard Rodgers each night. If they find each other, they gain BTSC, kill even nights, can win together, and have one lynch save.
Richard Rodgers – If I loved you, time and again I would try to say all I’d want you to know. Looks for his longtime partner, Oscar Hammerstein II each night. If they find each other, they gain BTSC, kill even nights, can win together, and have one lynch save.

Player/Role List:
Bass The Clever - Jekyll and Hyde
FZ. - The Bridges of Madison County
Black Rock - Merrily We Roll Along
JJJ - Sunday in the Park With George
Cobalt - Parade
Devin - Stephen Schwartz
DFaraday - Andrew Lloyd Weber
Canucklehead - Evening Primrose
SpaceDaisy - Songs For a New World
Epignosis - Into the Woods
Fingersplints - The Phantom of the Opera
Golden - Richard Rodgers
Gumshoe - West Side Story
Hedgeowl - Jason Robert Brown
Long Con - Frank Wildhorn
MetalMarsh89 - Gypsy
Epignosis 2.0 - Andrew Lippa
Neverwhere - A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum
nijuukyugou - Stephen Sondheim
Nutella - Company
Scotty - A Little Night Music
sig - Starlight Express
Sloonei - Anyone Can Whistle
SVS - Oscar Hammerstien II
Timmer - The Last Five Years
TinyBubbles - Sweeney Todd
SVS 2.0 - Bonnie and Clyde
G Man - Cats

Questions?

#4598

Oh well. I was running out of song ideas anyway :P

Well played, ye sneaky bastards!

#4599

I want to say how much I appreciate your effort into this game NJU despite losing! You were amazing and JUST barely lost. I loved every single re-write you did and I sent them to my musical theater friends. ^_^

I appreciate everyone who put effort into this game. I loved hosting you.

I also want to say that there was a third prize STILL available from trivia and it would have really changed the game. It was the mystery prize, and I'm shocked no one took it. It was basically, a "what do you want for a prize? propose something and i'll consider it" prize. That could have utterly changed the game.

#4600

Dom wrote:I want to say how much I appreciate your effort into this game NJU despite losing! You were amazing and JUST barely lost. I loved every single re-write you did and I sent them to my musical theater friends. ^_^

I appreciate everyone who put effort into this game. I loved hosting you.

I also want to say that there was a third prize STILL available from trivia and it would have really changed the game. It was the mystery prize, and I'm shocked no one took it. It was basically, a "what do you want for a prize? propose something and i'll consider it" prize. That could have utterly changed the game.

All I needed was the damn role check. And I got killed anyway. Thanks for nothing fingersplints.

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Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

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