Leech wrote:
Kate wrote:You are either 1. Voting a known civvie or 2. Voting a baddie, I assume you will say you are doing the former, thus my quesion, why would you vote for someone you are certain is a civvie (assuming that is your stance)?
You're spinning this because "voting a known civvie" carries a bad connotation and "voting for yourself", what I did, doesn't. At all. The reason why is because when you self-vote, you don't make a case for why anyone
else should make the same vote, and thus you're not trying to get the civvie lynched. The purpose of self-voting is to just VOTE, when you have no other suspicions. Not only do I find a randomizer not the better option, to me it's a more suspicious action. Two baddies on the same team can claim to use a randomizer and "coincidentally" end up with the same player who's not on their team or a civvie, getting him or her lynched.
I feel like you consciously believe that it's not a suspicious move (after all, a lot of people admitted to considering it (and doing it) themselves after my action became a hot topic), which sparks my suspicions for you. Add that to the fact that there was a good space between my post and yours and no one else found it suspicious enough to say so.
You were the first to speak bad about it, and by doing so you created a freak chain of spotlight which sparked other people's suspicions because if I'm not mistaken your "suspicions" of me (that is, again, if you actually find my move suspicious) was the first stated suspicion of anyone there was. Baddie move? I won't make that conclusion this early but it seems very strange to me.
I think you are twisting a bit here yourself, my friend. The "connotation" is not the issue, the reality is the issue. In my experience baddies worry more about "connotation" and how things look and sound, and less about how they actually are.
And TBH the person known for doing it, Jason Maher, has gotten himself lynched for it on at least one occasion. He did it in every game to avoid having to make a reasoned Day One vote in games he played as a baddie. He was basically setting himself up for a free ride on Day One when he was bad, it was clever. But it was a baddie move nevertheless, even when he did it in games he played as a civvie. And viewing it as such is understandable.
Because the end result of a self vote if it does not garner you suspicion is that you did not have to make a vote you needed to explain. And this seems premeditated, which, like worrying about "connotations", seems kinda bad to my eye.
Someone said this defense made them feel better about you. Sadly, it made me feel worse.
Linki @ Kate~ Yeah, I just reread them, and I did not see anything in there. I read the civvies too just to be sure, and if there is a rational role based reason to self vote as a civvie, I am not sure what it is, especially not having had a Night yet.
Is DP in the house? Nice to see Damo as a civ in this game 
• Damo Suzuki – This crazed singer has a personal bag of mushrooms he can tap into every night. Others might consider him an expert on the matter of such substances, but he is really too inarticulate most of the time to even consider the thought himself. He can grab one mushroom at random out of his bag every night to use on himself or on another player of his choice. Unbeknownst to Damo, there may be a few other random non-mushroom items in that bag as well. (Secrets)
Please let him know if this is completely unacceptable.)
(MP - we need a :lol: smiley!)
*votes Leech*
