Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

[Marmot]

This doesn't seem right for unfurl to end the day early, but this is the finaly tally I came up with. Everyone had 1 vote except unfurl who had 2. This makes more sense for someone like BWT to be the one who stopped the lynch.

2 - unfurl

• DrWilgy (1), MovingPictures07 (3)

1 - birdwithteeth11

• Devin the Omniscient (7)

1 - Canucklehead

• Spacedaisy (9)

1 - DrWilgy

• DisgruntledPorcupine (6)

1 - Epignosis

• Golden (2)

1 - Golden

• Epignosis (4)

1 - MovingPictures07

• unfurl (11)

1 - Russtifinko

• bea (8)

1 - S~V~S

• Scotty (5)

1 - Tranq

• G-Man (10)

[timmer]

Scotty, to answer your question, I believe a submitted request to pardon a lynch would have to be PM'd before the PM asking that the day be ended early, to count. So we've got the Guardians, a couple of likely unrecruits and Ubzargan. Personally, I'm not to try to hurt my brain over this tonight, lol.

@Bea, I'm pretty sure Black Rock confirmed that in a post somewhere, that a team continues to recruit etc after their leader is dead. Check back to be sure, but I think she said that at some point.

[Black Rock]

Official Announcement

Team Ahriman is looking for a new recruit. Please PM your hosts why you would make a great baddie hunter. Include your skills but please do not hint at your role or your identity. This contest will close at 5 pm EST

[Marmot]

Scotty, to answer your question, I believe a submitted request to pardon a lynch would have to be PM'd before the PM asking that the day be ended early, to count. So we've got the Guardians, a couple of likely unrecruits and Ubzargan. Personally, I'm not to try to hurt my brain over this tonight, lol.

@Bea, I'm pretty sure Black Rock confirmed that in a post somewhere, that a team continues to recruit etc after their leader is dead. Check back to be sure, but I think she said that at some point.

I would agree. A pardon has to be sent in before a normal lynch ends anyway, so I imagine that if the lynch ends early, the pardon must still be sent in first, as you say.

[bea]

I'm not really comfortable voting anyone honestly.
And if the vote stays this close, vote manips will have a field day in fucking up the lynch result... so Caelia's lynch pardon might not be a bad idea.

I disagree entirely. Carlos should not use her pardon today; that way if someone survives a lynch we'll know it's the baddie recruiter who is immune in Position 1.

I like her new nickname

Carlos has amazing hair and he is the most perfect scientist ever! ammirite?

[Scotty]

Scotty, to answer your question, I believe a submitted request to pardon a lynch would have to be PM'd before the PM asking that the day be ended early, to count. So we've got the Guardians, a couple of likely unrecruits and Ubzargan. Personally, I'm not to try to hurt my brain over this tonight, lol.

@Bea, I'm pretty sure Black Rock confirmed that in a post somewhere, that a team continues to recruit etc after their leader is dead. Check back to be sure, but I think she said that at some point.

That;s what I was thinking, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the omnipotent and benevolent hosts:

@Hosts If a day is ended early, do submitted day powers after such time count?

If that theory is true, I find it even MORE unlikely that Caelia would have pardoned it early. (I also may be confused- does she have to target someone to pardon a lynch, or just pardon the overall day lynch?)

[Ricochet]

Posting the poll tally would be good, but if voting will stay changeable, it won't be a fully accurate reflection of how votes evolved, especially if things get manipulated (granted, there won't be another early day end until we return to position 1).

I'm gonna double-check MM's list in a bit.

[Black Rock]

Scotty, to answer your question, I believe a submitted request to pardon a lynch would have to be PM'd before the PM asking that the day be ended early, to count. So we've got the Guardians, a couple of likely unrecruits and Ubzargan. Personally, I'm not to try to hurt my brain over this tonight, lol.

@Bea, I'm pretty sure Black Rock confirmed that in a post somewhere, that a team continues to recruit etc after their leader is dead. Check back to be sure, but I think she said that at some point.

That;s what I was thinking, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the omnipotent and benevolent hosts:

@Hosts If a day is ended early, do submitted day powers after such time count?

If that theory is true, I find it even MORE unlikely that Caelia would have pardoned it early. (I also may be confused- does she have to target someone to pardon a lynch, or just pardon the overall day lynch?)

Nope

[Marmot]

Posting the poll tally would be good, but if voting will stay changeable, it won't be a fully accurate reflection of how votes evolved, especially if things get manipulated (granted, there won't be another early day end until we return to position 1).

I'm gonna double-check MM's list in a bit.

Please do. I'm confident in my checks through everyone's posts (those I needed to check), but the results weren't what I expected. There was so much chatter about BWT, I thought he would have had the most votes, not unfurl.

[bea]

@Typh, would there be vote manipulations in this lynch, though? Don't the roles with vote tweaks have to submit actions etc. at night, thus that will all be in play tomorrow? Unless I'm minunderstanding things, I think only two team leaders could be revealed in this lynch, one with a lynch pardon, one with a lynch save?

That definitely wasn't the case in Recruitment III when the Musketeers could submit their vote manip at any time they wanted, during the Day as well.

Hmm, I didn't last long enough to notice that, ok I see your point, them!

I can atest to that - they were REALLY good about using the manips when people weren't suspeciting. It's how I lived so long. We played the +2 - 2 +1 maths in ways everyone forgot about.

[bea]

Do all recruitment contests state which leader it is for? Could someone truly only apply to civ teams?

If I remember correctly, the beginning recruitments were stated as team specifc - as they went along, the hosts dropped who was recruiting.

So yes, you could try to be only recrutited to the the civs,but at some point - if you enter a contest, it might make you land anywhere.

I think - from a player perspective the hosts are shooting for - if you want to be in a spot, work for it. IF you don't care, let the crap shoot take ccare of it later.

Though I could be wrong.

And also - just because you TRY for a contest reruitent for a side, doesn't mean you win. And on the civ side, doesn't mean that the civ team you are on knows that YOU have been recruited to their team.

I think? IDK - I was baddie mc badderson so I got totes bts

[Marmot]

Bea, you're ever baddie mcbaddersons. I swear you're always civ or something.

[bea]

Oh, would it? That is interesting.

Who was it that said they were reading recruitment 3. Was that scotty or someone else?

People had powers in RM3, in the first 2 editions most started as vanilla though.

This post seems suspicious to me, lynch aapje for being a nubling!

why aren't you playing?

[Long Con]

Bea's analysis is pretty accurate here, except to my recollection, we aren't likely to make the later recruitments more vague with regard to which team is recruiting. Otherwise, I think everything she said is the way it is.

There are unanswered questions out there.... this is a talkative thread. If a question has gone unanswered, then please feel free to ask again. In fact, if y'all want to work together, you could keep a record of unanswered questions, and re-post it on a semi-regular basis. That's currently my best solution to ensure that all questions are answered.

[Marmot]

So divine...

[Ricochet]

Well, except I missed some (votes started being made with 24 hours left in the Day, plus there were some switches until the Day was ended, too), here's the tally I got, in order:

Epignosis (1) - voted by Golden
Unfurl (1) - voted by MP
Golden (1) - voted by Epignosis
SVS (1) - voted by Scotty
(Rico (1) - voted by DP)
Rico (2) - voted by Wilgy (are you freaking kidding me, I almost got lynched??)
Wilgy (1) - voted by DP (vote switched from Rico) = Rico now (1)
BWT (1) - voted by Devin
Russ (1) - voted by bea
Canuck (1) - voted by Spacedaisy
Tranq (1) - voted by G-Man
MP (1) - voted by unfurl

So EL OH EL, I almost died and the tally looks like a 1-vote tie between everyone. Plus, after the Day ended, 21 more votes or so didn't count for anything.

My preliminary thoughts:
I don't think Caelia would have sent a lynch pardon at this point, unless she really didn't want anything to happen on D1 or anything to happen with the players most talked about or suspected at that time (off the top of my head, I'd say BWT and Golden/Epig).

Question: what happens officially in case of a tie?

Unless the Hosts actually tell us who would have been lynched, I think we'll have a very hard time figuring out if any of these players had lynch nullifying or surviving abilities. But I suppose it's still good to narrow them down as possible candidates. (You can count me out, I don't have any such ability).

All this, of course, needs further assumption the Lord of Thunder didn't take off or put extra votes himself by that time.

GRAND CONCLUSION:

DIS GAME B CRAY ZEE

[Long Con]

Oh, would it? That is interesting.

Who was it that said they were reading recruitment 3. Was that scotty or someone else?

People had powers in RM3, in the first 2 editions most started as vanilla though.

This post seems suspicious to me, lynch aapje for being a nubling!

why aren't you playing?

My sentiments exactly! Kadaj is a longtime Mafia cohort from way back, and it would be an honour to have him aboard! LOL QUE?

[Ricochet]

Huh, looking at MM's list, I may have failed to spot where Wilgy voted unfurl, although I'm pretty sure he voted unfurl first (it was the earliest vote of the Day) and then switched to me, prompting DP to switch from me to Wilgy. So I think I got it right.

[Long Con]

So divine...

Let me lay it on the line
I've got two on the vine

[Ricochet]

So corrected:

[unfurl (1) - voted by Wilgy]
Epignosis (1) - voted by Golden
Unfurl (2) - voted by MP
Golden (1) - voted by Epignosis
SVS (1) - voted by Scotty
[Rico (1) - voted by DP]
Rico (2) - voted by Wilgy (are you freaking kidding me, I almost got lynched??) = unfurl now (1)
Wilgy (1) - voted by DP (vote switched from Rico) = Rico now (1)
BWT (1) - voted by Devin
Russ (1) - voted by bea
Canuck (1) - voted by Spacedaisy
Tranq (1) - voted by G-Man
MP (1) - voted by unfurl

[Marmot]

When did DrWilgy vote for you Ricochet?

[Black Rock]

Well, except I missed some (votes started being made with 24 hours left in the Day, plus there were some switches until the Day was ended, too), here's the tally I got, in order:

Epignosis (1) - voted by Golden
Unfurl (1) - voted by MP
Golden (1) - voted by Epignosis
SVS (1) - voted by Scotty
(Rico (1) - voted by DP)
Rico (2) - voted by Wilgy (are you freaking kidding me, I almost got lynched??)
Wilgy (1) - voted by DP (vote switched from Rico) = Rico now (1)
BWT (1) - voted by Devin
Russ (1) - voted by bea
Canuck (1) - voted by Spacedaisy
Tranq (1) - voted by G-Man
MP (1) - voted by unfurl

So EL OH EL, I almost died and the tally looks like a 1-vote tie between everyone. Plus, after the Day ended, 21 more votes or so didn't count for anything.

My preliminary thoughts:
I don't think Caelia would have sent a lynch pardon at this point, unless she really didn't want anything to happen on D1 or anything to happen with the players most talked about or suspected at that time (off the top of my head, I'd say BWT and Golden/Epig).

Question: what happens officially in case of a tie?

Unless the Hosts actually tell us who would have been lynched, I think we'll have a very hard time figuring out if any of these players had lynch nullifying or surviving abilities. But I suppose it's still good to narrow them down as possible candidates. (You can count me out, I don't have any such ability).

All this, of course, needs further assumption the Lord of Thunder didn't take off or put extra votes himself by that time.

GRAND CONCLUSION:

DIS GAME B CRAY ZEE

Officially in case of a tie, we will randomize.

[Ricochet]

When did DrWilgy vote for you Ricochet?

He didn't say in the thread, but it was around the time someone noticed him moving his vote and me gasping at votes being changeable.

[Marmot]

Huh, looking at MM's list, I may have failed to spot where Wilgy voted unfurl, although I'm pretty sure he voted unfurl first (it was the earliest vote of the Day) and then switched to me, prompting DP to switch from me to Wilgy. So I think I got it right.

Ugh. I remember DrWilgy voting for unfurl without posting it. Unfortunately, I cannot remember every single vote switch that took place, so I can't really speak for anything else that is not concrete.

Linki: yeah this is rough. I tried opening up older versions of pages to find the poll from that time. Unfortunately, I had never looked at the poll before I voted, so it didn't exist in my history. But I'll go ahead and post a copy of the final poll anyway.

[Marmot]

aapje
0
No votes

Bass_the_Clever
2
nutella (16), Boomslang (17)
6%

bea
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
8
Devin the Omniscient (11), LoRab (24), Turnip Head (28), JaggedJimmyJay (31), DrWilgy (33), Golden (34), Typhoony (35), Tranq (36)
22%

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
1
S~V~S (19)
3%

Canucklehead
1
Spacedaisy (13)
3%

Devin the Omniscient
0
No votes

DFaraday
4
Metalmarsh89 (18), birdwithteeth11 (23), Bullzeye (25), timmer (30)
11%

DharmaHelper
1
aapje (22)
3%

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

DrWilgy
1
DisgruntledPorcupine (10)
3%

Epignosis
0
No votes

Golden
2
Epignosis (7), reywaS (27)
6%

G-Man
0
No votes

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes

LoRab
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
1
unfurl (15)
3%

nutella
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Ricochet
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

Russtifinko
1
bea (12)
3%

Scotty
2
DharmaHelper (20), Dom (32)
6%

Sorsha
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

S~V~S
1
Scotty (9)
3%

thellama73
1
Ricochet (21)
3%

timmer
1
Russtifinko (26)
3%

TinyBubbles
1
thellama73 (29)
3%

Tranq
1
G-Man (14)
3%

Turnip Head
0
No votes

Typhoony
0
No votes

unfurl
1
MovingPictures07 (5)
3%

Erlatz 11 (hosts/non)
6
Black Rock (1), Heiots (2), nijuukyugou (3), juliets (4), Made (6), Long Con (8)
17%


Total votes : 36

[Ricochet]

Thanks. I edited votes when they switched on my spreadsheet, so I don't have their actual evolution either. This is the best I can track from the posts (and from knowing how Wilgy switched, in his case).

Have to go now, laterz.

[Black Rock]

With patience we'll post a prettier version

[Marmot]

I'm off to bed too. I'm tired, and ready for another wild day.

Linki: I spent like an hour looking through all the other votes before 5:46 PM, so I didn't feel like making the normal poll look pretty.

[Marmot]

For the record, if I could pick a position in the current poll, I'd vote for Position 5.

[bea]

Linki @Typh, not Tuph.

I'm pretty sure that you are ok with tuph. It wasn't Tranq. That said, Typh is your dutcie so maybe I'm wrong in my understaning about the cranky of a typo vs flat out the wrong one.

We're claiming dutchies? I think I already claimed mine and I dare you to try and take them... I mean him

I assume you have monkey man. I mean - he IS your son after all. I saw that post AND called you two out on it. I assume JC just borrows him in IRC when it's convinent. I somehow defaulted into Tranq and I'm ok with that. He and I were perfectly paired in Big Bang Theory mafia - he was lenord and I was penny. Cuz you know - casting the math dumb barternder to be the math dumb bartender was perfect. Aso - still one of my most fav Bts ever!

[Ricochet]

With patience we'll post a prettier version

A pretty version of the official tally (as in until the Day was ended) would be nice to confirm.

linki: Lol, MM, so this time you want the Day to be restarted. :P

Also, let it be noted that Death Note post record is almost sure to be smashed, the way we've been posting so far. D1 ended around page 24 over there and I thought the D0/D1 banter was brutal there. Clearly Recruitement ranks above all and beyond.

[bea]

Bea, you're ever baddie mcbaddersons. I swear you're always civ or something.

It happens - in RMIII I was I think NK N1 - which was how I earned the sock account that lead me to being rezzed as totes mc badderson N3ish.

I've been bad here too more than once - though only once sucessfully and one other time *near* sucessfully. *curses LC!!! AGIAN!*

but yea, my natural play state is civ. I try to play to being the Bea that runs around the OT threads as being the Bea that plays mafia. And thankyou for thinking I read civ, it's my comfort zone. mostlhy- in games and out of games, I just try to be me. For better or worse..

[bea]

With patience we'll post a prettier version

A pretty version of the official tally (as in until the Day was ended) would be nice to confirm.

linki: Lol, MM, so this time you want the Day to be restarted. :P

Also, let it be noted that Death Note post record is almost sure to be smashed, the way we've been posting so far. D1 ended around page 24 over there and I thought the D0/D1 banter was brutal there. Clearly Recruitement ranks above all and beyond.

I got home at 8 my time, showered and sarted playing catch up - it's now 12:30 am my time.

I'm all for suggestions as to how to make my catch up of like 11ty billion pages less taxing on eeryone else too. Cuz fuck. That was a long ass read. I hate that I was a page of it as well.... Help me help you peeps.

KK - I have to be awake and functioning in like 6 hours. I'm done till after work tomorrow

Peace out maifa friends!

[Long Con]

[Long Con]

[Long Con]

A pretty version of the official tally (as in until the Day was ended) would be nice to confirm.

I think you've got it as pretty as you're gonna get it, thank you hardworking players.

[Long Con]

YAAAAYAYYAYAUYAYYUUUUYYYU RECRUITMENT GAME! Thanks for letting me sneak in last minute, beauteous hoagies!

Did... did you call us hoagies?

[Scotty]

Are we going to talk about how Scotty's post clearly indicated he has BTSC?

This post.

Spinning the old randomizer wheel before I leave for one my infamous 14 hour shifts today (help me).

I have a slight gut read that SVS has some power in this game, and I don't like it. So nothing against you, SVS, but you got my vote day 1.

Scotty has never played a RM before. Scotty assumed everyone is vanilla like in previous games. Scotty would not know about this. Scotty must have been told about this.
Unless I am misinterpreting the highlighted line...

Additionally, this is a huge contradiction. "Random vote"-->I think SVS is bad???

Ah, I see Dom was needling in on me. Fair enough, it was a little contradictory. Here's the longer explanation now that I'm not as rushed.

Because I don't see the use in complete random, my randomization was not so much random on the scale of the entire list of players, but a list of players that had more content-filled posts. Unlike the Day 0/1's from previous games, I didn't feel like looking at MIAs for the first lynch. It was theorized by numerous people throughout the day who had a better chance to recruit and who would be recruited. I don't think a recruiter would pick someone with a very low post count. Maybe someone with a slightly low count to remain hidden, sure. But someone like, say, DFaraday I don't see as Recruiter or Recruitee.

I looked at the big talkers that had recruiting strategies- Epi and Golden and their spat didn't stand out to me as recruiters/recruitees. MP, SVS, JJJ, birdwithteeth, Rico, etc were in the mix. But I had no real inclination between those, though I figured one of them maybe had some sort of overarching, suspicious recruiting method. SVS stood out to me early on for her recruiting strategy of someone that was smarter than her, works well as a team player and could swim under the radar. She seemed to really know what she was talking about, and that would scare me if she were the recruiter. But I really could have voted any of them. So I guess it was random in the sense that I just picked one that didn't seem to be causing too much of a ruckus or on anyone's radar. In the end, it's a day 1 vote.

Also I don't have any idea what you're talking about with me "clearly in BTSC". I think you've got that aluminum foil hat on a little too tight. When I say "power" of course I don't mean abilities. I'm stupid, but not that stupid. (Though I did watch the rain with my head tilted up and my mouth open as a child.)
I guess power wasnt the best word choice in hindsight, but I was rushing off to work. Think of it more as "regard" or "esteem".

"Scotty assumed everyone is vanilla like in previous game"
wtf? When did I say that? Oh, I didn't. Please don't put words in my mouth, Dom. I'm only a child at heart, not by intelligence or temperament.

It's true that I'm not used to this type of game, but I'm learning as I go.

Now I sleep. Good night, and most likely see you all for day 2 tomorrow when I get off work at 11p est

[Scotty]

Thank you for uploading this, LC! I'm sure it took some time!

I'll be sure to analyze tomorrow.

[Typhoony]

Also, surprise surprise. TH, Tranq, and Typhoony all voted the same player on Day 1. The same three players whose names start with T that were all mentioned together earlier.

Linki: Have fun Spacedaisy.

no u

awe...typh...it's so cute when you get upset. is what I want to post....but then I get worried that typh might get mad. I tend to refer to the lot of them as Those Damn Dutchies and Appje.

no u

Also, I'll be out of town for most of Day 2, so don't expect a lot of activity from me then. I'll try and check in and see what I can do though.

And I'll probably vote Position 5. I think.

[Ricochet]

So my theory so far is shaping up like this:

if the stats are correct that a 1-vote 11-player tie took place and a player gets lynched through randomization, then it must mean the player who got lynched survived the lynch, according to his position 1

ergo any of the following players (BWT, Canuck, Epignosis, Golden, MP, Russ, SVS, Tranq, Unfurl, Wilgy - I'm not, but feel free to throw me in as well; I would have super dead and super pissed if I would have been lynched or if the Day would have ended with me having two votes) can be:

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Immune to NK/Lynch
Jilted Lover - Can’t die as long as ? alive

I don't believe that Lord of Thunder's +/-3 votes would have changed this situation, if he already manipulated something by the time the Day ended. either he added votes and then there is definitely a specific survivor, which Lordy may now choose to try to hint at; either he substracted votes and it's still a large pool of tied players and the theory above still applies, but with vague chances of pinpointing at anyone in particular

same with Windscout, we don't know how many votes he can take down, but I doubt it's up to 10

I'm not sure if The Immortal's random power can activate during the Day, but even if it can, it's really a stretch to imagine that he protected someone that early and the stars aligned so that the one person he randomly protected was the one person that randomly got lynched; plus, we haven't seen a second death

same with Terras. can he protect during the Day? if so, same stretch of the imagination

If I missed anything, let me know, but so far I believe this to be the conclusion: our non-lynched player today is Uzbargan or the Jilted Lover. unfortunately we have 11 candidates for this spot

[thellama73]

I like position 3. Yay no death I guess, but I never reAlly like when the only tool the civvies have is squandered.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Meh @ no lynch

I'll be away for most of this real-time day.

[aapje]

awe...typh...it's so cute when you get upset. is what I want to post....but then I get worried that typh might get mad. I tend to refer to the lot of them as Those Damn Dutchies and Appje.

We're claiming dutchies? I think I already claimed mine and I dare you to try and take them... I mean him

I assume you have monkey man. I mean - he IS your son after all.

Wait what?

[aapje]

Here are the votes as I recorded them:
Shortened day:

Full Day:

[Ricochet]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo spreadsheeting next level

I'm confused about JJJ having voted for DH before the Day ended, have I missed that?

[Ricochet]

Huh, I did actually miss that.

So 12 players with DH.

[aapje]

Hmm I guess that was too big

How about this:
Day 1 short
Day 1 full

[S~V~S]

So my theory so far is shaping up like this:

if the stats are correct that a 1-vote 11-player tie took place and a player gets lynched through randomization, then it must mean the player who got lynched survived the lynch, according to his position 1

ergo any of the following players (BWT, Canuck, Epignosis, Golden, MP, Russ, SVS, Tranq, Unfurl, Wilgy - I'm not, but feel free to throw me in as well; I would have super dead and super pissed if I would have been lynched or if the Day would have ended with me having two votes) can be:

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Immune to NK/Lynch
Jilted Lover - Can’t die as long as ? alive

I don't believe that Lord of Thunder's +/-3 votes would have changed this situation, if he already manipulated something by the time the Day ended. either he added votes and then there is definitely a specific survivor, which Lordy may now choose to try to hint at; either he substracted votes and it's still a large pool of tied players and the theory above still applies, but with vague chances of pinpointing at anyone in particular

same with Windscout, we don't know how many votes he can take down, but I doubt it's up to 10

I'm not sure if The Immortal's random power can activate during the Day, but even if it can, it's really a stretch to imagine that he protected someone that early and the stars aligned so that the one person he randomly protected was the one person that randomly got lynched; plus, we haven't seen a second death

same with Terras. can he protect during the Day? if so, same stretch of the imagination

If I missed anything, let me know, but so far I believe this to be the conclusion: our non-lynched player today is Uzbargan or the Jilted Lover. unfortunately we have 11 candidates for this spot

You left out Master of Shadows:

Master of Shadows - Warrior of the Shadows

Position 1: Choose your own position
Position 2: You may post in the thread as your role
Position 3: Follow a player in the shadows and see who that player targets, affect the outcome.
Position 4: Cast a shadow on a player, all votes for that player will be cut in half
Position 5: Become a shadow, you can’t be night targeted and all votes for you will not count

Are we going to talk about how Scotty's post clearly indicated he has BTSC?

This post.

Spinning the old randomizer wheel before I leave for one my infamous 14 hour shifts today (help me).

I have a slight gut read that SVS has some power in this game, and I don't like it. So nothing against you, SVS, but you got my vote day 1.

Scotty has never played a RM before. Scotty assumed everyone is vanilla like in previous games. Scotty would not know about this. Scotty must have been told about this.
Unless I am misinterpreting the highlighted line...

Additionally, this is a huge contradiction. "Random vote"-->I think SVS is bad???

Ah, I see Dom was needling in on me. Fair enough, it was a little contradictory. Here's the longer explanation now that I'm not as rushed.

Because I don't see the use in complete random, my randomization was not so much random on the scale of the entire list of players, but a list of players that had more content-filled posts. Unlike the Day 0/1's from previous games, I didn't feel like looking at MIAs for the first lynch. It was theorized by numerous people throughout the day who had a better chance to recruit and who would be recruited. I don't think a recruiter would pick someone with a very low post count. Maybe someone with a slightly low count to remain hidden, sure. But someone like, say, DFaraday I don't see as Recruiter or Recruitee.

I looked at the big talkers that had recruiting strategies- Epi and Golden and their spat didn't stand out to me as recruiters/recruitees. MP, SVS, JJJ, birdwithteeth, Rico, etc were in the mix. But I had no real inclination between those, though I figured one of them maybe had some sort of overarching, suspicious recruiting method. SVS stood out to me early on for her recruiting strategy of someone that was smarter than her, works well as a team player and could swim under the radar. She seemed to really know what she was talking about, and that would scare me if she were the recruiter. But I really could have voted any of them. So I guess it was random in the sense that I just picked one that didn't seem to be causing too much of a ruckus or on anyone's radar. In the end, it's a day 1 vote.

Also I don't have any idea what you're talking about with me "clearly in BTSC". I think you've got that aluminum foil hat on a little too tight. When I say "power" of course I don't mean abilities. I'm stupid, but not that stupid. (Though I did watch the rain with my head tilted up and my mouth open as a child.)
I guess power wasnt the best word choice in hindsight, but I was rushing off to work. Think of it more as "regard" or "esteem".

"Scotty assumed everyone is vanilla like in previous game"
wtf? When did I say that? Oh, I didn't. Please don't put words in my mouth, Dom. I'm only a child at heart, not by intelligence or temperament.

It's true that I'm not used to this type of game, but I'm learning as I go.

Now I sleep. Good night, and most likely see you all for day 2 tomorrow when I get off work at 11p est

Thank you for this, Scotty. This I can get behind. I have done similar things myself, eliminated people i did not suspect, and randomized between those that pinged me. So it's random, but it's not.

And I DO know alot about recruiting in Mafia, and have thought about it alot. I have played all four of BR & LCs Recruitment games (including this one), and was a recruiter in two of them. I have played in maybe a dozen games where recruiting was a major element. Every game I have hosted has involved recruiting, although not like THIS game. I have also had amazing teams; teams where the BTS itself was so much fun, and so close to perfect, that I know EXACTLY what I want in a team, and I hope to get it every game. It's the main reason I tend to prefer baddie roles, becasue they come with BTSC, and this next team might be the one. Although, tbh, nothing is better than civvie BTS. My favorite game ever was Sword of Truth on The Piano; I was a civvie, Kahlan, and I recruited a player, Typhoony, and what he brought to the table totally changed the dynamic of the game. We lost, but it still was my best game, and I always am trying to recreate that atmosphere if I can. So yeah, I know what I am looking for in a recruit, and like Bea said, it should ALWAYS be people you think are smarter than you, lol.

Linki, ah charts.

I have a bunch of things to do today, then I have a D & D game this after noon, so I won't be around much. Toodles.

[Ricochet]

@SVS: Oh. OK.