Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

[Boomslang]

DrWilgy, I see you creeping this thread. Care to explain your switch vote to MP? Because that's really, really sketchy, especially as you've been less than forthcoming with your llama vote analysis (other than to say you "got what you wanted" out of it). Right now, you strike me as very opportunistic.

[DrWilgy]

Just busy. I accidentally fell asleep after work while writing it. Things have changed since my vote, and my time is shorter.

[DrWilgy]

And by it I mean my analysis.

[DharmaHelper]

I hate how busy I am right now. I feel so embarrassed.. I'm sorry guys, a busy weekend (DnD and helping my Dad with his Fantasy Football Draft) means I will likely have to do a bunch of legwork tomorrow.

[reywaS]

I thought he was being willfully ignorant of the way recruits happen. That's why I voted for him.

I thought it was bc he did not sound sincere

Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.

[reywaS]

Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.

@rey - I agree it's the motivation, not the action, that matters. That's why I kept asking why does it make me bad? You've claimed I've done certain things, but you haven't provided any motivation for why I would do them when bad. You've just said they don't read genuine. But why would I lie about those things?

That's also why I went back to epi setting out the exact thought process behind the post where he claimed I gave four different answers to what I would do when recruiting. Epi did not seem interested in motivation either, even though the obvious motive for me even starting that particular conversation was to see if we could narrow down the field of potential baddie recruits so as to better find a baddie, but he also declined to provide any motive for why it would be a bad thing to do.

But whatever. Sometimes people tunnel in on you and you don't think it is entirely logical. When I really understood where you were coming from, I found your suspicion on me genuine. I can't disagree that in trying to get you to see what I was saying, I was skimming over some of the points you were trying to raise, because I was trying to get you to see that there was no baddie motivation for your allegation. But nm.

for what it's worth, I'm not interested in voting for you at current.

[Sorsha]

Sorry to see Epi and Typhoony gone so soon.

I was sporadically keeping up with reading the thread on my drive home last night but I’m just going to comment on things as I come across them in my re-reading tonight.

If Golden was baiting a baddie team to take Epi out what would make the baddie team actually think taking Epi out is a good idea?

Other than trying to set Golden up to look bad and lead to a Golden lynch today? Does that even work anymore? There is the whole WIFOM argument to go along with that situation. Leaving Epi alive to duke it out with Golden seems like it would be a better idea….. a distraction in the thread is usually good for the bad guys to hide behind.

I know most of us have been playing a while and have been bad before. I don’t recall ever reading the thread (as mafia) and thinking that the NK decision would be made by someone in the thread baiting the team to a kill.

[Dom]

I saw the move he was making before Epi died. Personally, I say well played. He wanted Epi out and he made it happen, either with a kill or baiting a kill. I can't say I am glad Epi is dead necessarily, but I'm impressed.

But what does it make you think of Golden...?

Also, regarding the Typhoony kill... I know this is WIFOM, so I understand the sheer flimsiness of it, but I cannot see any of the LP/TP/RMers* willingly killing Typhoony in his first game back in so long. I would be absolutely floored if that happened. I'm still shocked he even died, to be honest.

*Those players would include:
aapje
bea
Bullzeye
Canucklehead
DFaraday
DharmaHelper
Dom
Golden
G-Man
LoRab
MovingPictures07
nutella
reywaS
Roxy
Sorsha
Spacedaisy
S~V~S
timmer
Tranq
Turnip Head
unfurl


Which leaves:
Bass_the_Clever
birdwithteeth11
Boomslang
Devin the Omniscient
DisgruntledPorcupine
DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89
Ricochet
Russtifinko
Scotty
thellama73
TinyBubbles


Thoughts?

I Agree with this point, largely.

Why would MP go out of his way to say Daisy wouldn't make a good recruit? If course she would make a good recruit. His response was completely unnecessary. Looks like a massive over correction to me. Either he has already recruited her or he intends to. MP has a good chance of receiving my vote today.

I would agree on the count of his most recent post about her-- that seemed forced. His first once, I think, someone solicited from him.

MP is responding with threats now? "If you vote for me, I will vote for you"
That is atypical of him. Plus I don't like being threatened. Still some time left, assuming we actually have a 48 hour day, but MP looks no good to me.

You really think MP's response was out of character?
You think Alex being suspected, overreacting, and being rather unreasonable in the thread is unusual????
I would be suspicious if he DIDN'T do that.

Oh and since votes are changeable I think I might as well throw an early vote out there as a prod. I'd still like to hear more from Bass.

*votes Bass*

You're the second or third person to do this.





I will be very busy tomorrow. I'll try and make it in for a vote, and further read.

For now, I'm placing a vote on Golden because I don't think I can trust him given his behavior thus far. I intend on reading further and hopefully changing the vote to something more informed, however.

[Spacedaisy]

I really don't agree with the assessment this is not civs vs baddies. just because it's not fully formed teams yet doesn't change the set up.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing the lectures to Golden. He pulled a ballsy move and it either worked or he is deceiving us majorly. If you think it is the former than drop it and move on. What is done is done. If you think it is the latter then vote for him. But I'm tired of discussing it. SVS, you are the only one I am not directing this to because you seem to be saying you don't recognize this as a normal Golden move. I respect what you are saying. I can even agree that this doesn't seem in character, but not just for civ golden, but baddie golden as well. But I just think he is most likely neutral. Who would recruit him right now anyway?

Vote for MP or don't, it's up to you. But he is not lying when he says he wouldn't recruit me first. And vice versa. I'm not going to defend him getting emotional, but I can say this isn't a faked thing. He has some decisions to make about what he wants to do in the future, but as for this game I don't personally see anything that makes me feel the desire to vote for him.

I'm sorry Typhoony got killed, but I think the outcry is a bit much. What you basically are saying is that it's ok to kill Metalmarsh or whoever else first but not someone who hasn't played in a while. Everyone playing really was looking forward to the game, so let's not start making someone out to be a horrible human being because of their choice of kill. And no, it wasn't me, but I've been in a spot where people went off about a game decision I made that wasn't personal, it was purely game strategy because I was playing the game as it was intended and it can be really hurtful to hear people rip you a new one without knowing its you or being able to defend yourself because then you are outed, so I'm not ashamed to ask you all politely to lay off. And let's not unintentionally (or intentionally) say Typhoony is more important than any other player, and therefore should be given special consideration please. No offense to you Typh, I wasn't really stoked to see you go, but I feel that about the majority (if not all) of the players here. And I look forward to the chance to play with you again, I hope in the not too distant future.

I need to go to bed, I'll try to think through everyone else tomorrow. Right now I am plagued by feeling mostly positive or neutral feelings about everyone, which makes it hard to decide who to vote...

Linki @Dom: I was just about to answer that.

[Canucklehead]

Daisy: Any reaction to my ping about you?

[Marmot]

I've realized that my approach to the game was ill conceived. Bass? He isn't someone that I wouldn't vote for. MP reminds me of something. I need to research it a bit.

I think my behavior isn't being talked about enough. I feel so lonely.

I don't know about this DrWilgy flip. Perhaps, I need to read something.

I like the song reywaS moT.

And by it I mean my analysis.

Hello friend. When do we get to see this analysis you speak of?

I hate how busy I am right now. I feel so embarrassed.. I'm sorry guys, a busy weekend (DnD and helping my Dad with his Fantasy Football Draft) means I will likely have to do a bunch of legwork tomorrow.

I thought legs were on Tuesday, and upper body's tomorrow?

snip What you basically are saying is that it's ok to kill Metalmarsh snip

THIS is most definitely NOT ok.

[Golden]

MM, are you getting the snip?

[Marmot]

MM, are you getting the snip?

Where's your daily shit-colored case? :P

[Golden]

MM, are you getting the snip?

Where's your daily shit-colored case? :P

I have no witty comeback.

[Marmot]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

[Golden]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

I'm not opposed to lynching bass. But I'm mostly voting him for the time being, in order to protect MP a little. I am not a fan of the votes on MP. Any of them. That includes Bass's vote, even though it could be construed as self-defensive.

[Bass_the_Clever]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

I'm not opposed to lynching bass. But I'm mostly voting him for the time being, in order to protect MP a little. I am not a fan of the votes on MP. Any of them. That includes Bass's vote, even though it could be construed as self-defensive.

Why are you so worried about trying to save MP?

[Golden]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

I'm not opposed to lynching bass. But I'm mostly voting him for the time being, in order to protect MP a little. I am not a fan of the votes on MP. Any of them. That includes Bass's vote, even though it could be construed as self-defensive.

Why are you so worried about trying to save MP?

I don't think he is bad and I do not trust the votes against him.

[Bass_the_Clever]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

I'm not opposed to lynching bass. But I'm mostly voting him for the time being, in order to protect MP a little. I am not a fan of the votes on MP. Any of them. That includes Bass's vote, even though it could be construed as self-defensive.

Why are you so worried about trying to save MP?

I don't think he is bad and I do not trust the votes against him.

So you think i'm bad?

[Golden]

No worries. I'm just drinking beer and enjoying watching this game unfold.

Do you want to lynch Bass, or are you just voting him for the time being?

I'm not opposed to lynching bass. But I'm mostly voting him for the time being, in order to protect MP a little. I am not a fan of the votes on MP. Any of them. That includes Bass's vote, even though it could be construed as self-defensive.

Why are you so worried about trying to save MP?

I don't think he is bad and I do not trust the votes against him.

So you think i'm bad?

Are we going around in circles? We already had this discussion about 10 hours ago.

Bass, put it like this.

You theorised that the recruiters were likely to be people who are known for always participating fully. That might take the heat of you as being a recruiter. I don't think you would be likely to make that statement if you were a civilian recruiter. You might if you were a baddie recruiter. I saw that statement as being likely neutral.

But, who is more likely to recruit the person admitting they aren't reading the thread?

It sounds a bit mean, but you've kind of admitted it yourself. You wouldn't make a great recruit. At least, not for the civilians who need to solve the game. But someone like that can also be very hard to lynch. Not a bad candidate for a baddie recruit.

In any event, with you I see a worst case scenario of being neutral, and that is ok with me. I'm trying to avoid lynching people who are civs. I don't think you are civ.

[nutella]

Oh and since votes are changeable I think I might as well throw an early vote out there as a prod. I'd still like to hear more from Bass.

*votes Bass*

You're the second or third person to do this.

Do what?

[nutella]

I really don't understand you Dom. Like I never understand most of the things that cause you to "eye" people, they're always the weirdest, most meaningless little things. Like how hard you went after Scotty for something you contrivedly read as a "slip" when it clearly wasn't (I think quite a few others were as baffled by your interpretation as I was.) And now you're eyeing me for placing an early vote in a changeable poll?? What??? I guess it's just how you play though, going doggedly after little things like that, but honestly if you weren't like this every game I would call you out for being opportunistic. But I'm generally always completely baffled by your extreme nitpickiness.

[Marmot]

I really don't understand you Dom. Like I never understand most of the things that cause you to "eye" people, they're always the weirdest, most meaningless little things. Like how hard you went after Scotty for something you contrivedly read as a "slip" when it clearly wasn't (I think quite a few others were as baffled by your interpretation as I was.) And now you're eyeing me for placing an early vote in a changeable poll?? What??? I guess it's just how you play though, going doggedly after little things like that, but honestly if you weren't like this every game I would call you out for being opportunistic. But I'm generally always completely baffled by your extreme nitpickiness.

If he nitpicks you, that means he likes you.

Dom never nitpicks me.

[Golden]

I really don't understand you Dom. Like I never understand most of the things that cause you to "eye" people, they're always the weirdest, most meaningless little things. Like how hard you went after Scotty for something you contrivedly read as a "slip" when it clearly wasn't (I think quite a few others were as baffled by your interpretation as I was.) And now you're eyeing me for placing an early vote in a changeable poll?? What??? I guess it's just how you play though, going doggedly after little things like that, but honestly if you weren't like this every game I would call you out for being opportunistic. But I'm generally always completely baffled by your extreme nitpickiness.

If he nitpicks you, that means he likes you.

Dom never nitpicks me.

Do you have nits?

[DrWilgy]

*The lights in the room cut off, and a spotlight turns on revealing a rather handsome man clad in a tuxedo and a matching mask. With one hand he gracefully moves his hand to his mask, the other he runs through his hair. He removes the mask to reveal himself as the good DrWilgy, and he points a finger to the sky* Everyone! The doctor has returned! MM and Unfurl, let's do this together now!

DrWilgy, I see you creeping this thread. Care to explain your switch vote to MP? Because that's really, really sketchy, especially as you've been less than forthcoming with your llama vote analysis (other than to say you "got what you wanted" out of it). Right now, you strike me as very opportunistic.

Opportunistic, yes, very much so. Does this bother you? In regards to creeping, I was merely staying upto pace. I can't be falling too far behind. My vote switch to MP is simple, I wanted to pressure them. I do have an inclination to think that they are scum based upon the voting pattern I saw being formed. Until something else stands out to me, my vote will remain there.

The Llama vote and analysis are two different things, I wanted to see what would happen if a vote was placed on Llama. That's all.

Here's my analysis and thoughts so far, don't expect chronological order, I simply picked through things I found interesting:

MP, I believe Rico has a correct tally somewhere, but I was not keeping track of votes that were not stated in the thread. Then again, neither would the hosts...

Not sure how much we can gleam from D1's no result at all then.

This is another reason why I can confidently place my vote on MP. While this post may not contain much, suggesting that something has no informative value is wrong. All things are rational and have a reason for happening. Even suggesting that information is useless, can translate to "This evidence is irrelevant" which is always super scummy.

I saw the move he was making before Epi died. Personally, I say well played. He wanted Epi out and he made it happen, either with a kill or baiting a kill. I can't say I am glad Epi is dead necessarily, but I'm impressed.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm 'glad' epi is dead either. I like playing mafia with epi. I just don't think him being alive was in my interests this game.

I'm in agreement with Spacedaisy that Golden is probably neutral (nothing has made me believe differently at least) and I read this comment as genuine. The thing I don't understand is what kind of role Golden has that would benefit solely from Epig's death?

Ahh the Ravens are squaking...

CHAOS! CHAOS IS UPON US! Brothers and Sisters if we are to survive this
plite, questions must be answered immediately! You know the questions.
For the answers... you must look north, for there you will find truth."

Before we figure out what this means, we need to figure out what part of this is bs and what part is informative. Plite being spelled how it is is interesting. If there is deeper meaning behind this, I would assume that north is a person, just who is it? Canuck?

*The courtroom is silent, Wilgy walks up to the podium and gestures to Unfurl and MM. The remaining players are focusing intently*
Your Honor! *dignified* I have seen a reaction here to what unfolded last night that caught my eye.

Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

what do you think of this DH?

Why DH in specific?

My thoughts on Bass the Cleaver right now are that I don't want to vote with him, but I also don't want to vote for him. We played a game together recently, and his activity and general tone were the exact same. The part that worries me is that we were both mafia at the time.

Setting: Spring time, flowers are in bloom and every now and then their petals are picked up by the cool wind. Wilgy stands under a shady tree outside the small convenience store. Wilgy looks upset by a thought placed in his head.

As to Dr Wigly - Dr who? Bc I do not remember much from him except his new found friendship with MM and his crush unfurl. I do not think he is a recruiter nor do I think he has been recruited aorn.

This is cute, but I am most definitely out of Unfurl's league, who am I to have feelings for her?
Wilgy ducks his head and sheds a single tear as he walks home from the store. Under the tree where he was standing there is a piece of paper that reads in Wilgy's handwriting:
More to come soon, I really wish I didn't become as busy today as I did. It's time for me to sleep now so I only posted things I saw as necessary. Also, I believe using a rez on a sorcerer is a bad Idea.

[Golden]

We are all out of unfurl's league. Unfurl is super-awesome.

I like that post from DrWilgy a lot. I won't end up voting that way today (you are right MM, I like doing that). Thoughts on Bass pretty much mirror my own, although the problem I have is somehow bass always seems to be mafia, so I'm not sure how much of bass's civ meta I have to go on. (lol at Bass the Cleaver though...)

I will say one thing though. I don't think we are going to get any choice as to who we use a rezz on (I could be wrong about that). I have a feeling that rezz contests will be played out amongst the dead, and we will get who we get.

[S~V~S]

Actually, resurrections seem to be in the hands of two roles, the Deathmask Shaman & the Druidic Elder. Although other forms of rezz may be possible I am sure.

[reywaS]

I can't sleep

[Spacedaisy]

Canuck, I don't recall seeing your ping against me, I'll have to try and find it later to respond, getting ready for work now.

[Bubbles]

I did not expect to see Epi go so soon, RIP, and Typhoony too

[Bullzeye]

Okay I have 2 and a half hours before I need to go get torn apart by my supervisor, perfect time to catch up. If I don't return after 3pm GMT assume I've been murdered by an angry lecturer and come over here to avenge me.

[Roxy]

Dr W's post made me laugh and gave a me a lovely start to today

Still do not find him suspicious.

Will not likely vote MP

Sebass (my son) does have this job going crazy right now. I know he has not had time to catch up. I don't like the tone of his posts but for right now I am willing to give him a chance.

Why is no one besides Rey and unfurl and I the only ones to comment on Teeth?

[Roxy]

Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?

[Bullzeye]

(The Speaker of) Serenity also said this.

Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

Well maybe the Speaker should do a little more Speaking on the topic.

Btw, why is nobody talking about the Keeper of Ravens message?? I would really like to figure out what it means...

CHAOS! CHAOS IS UPON US! Brothers and Sisters if we are to survive this
plite, questions must be answered immediately! You know the questions.
For the answers... you must look north, for there you will find truth."

Is it just referring to the lynch poll?

"Lift up your eyes and look north, John"

Maybe it means the Keeper of Ravens suspects aapje

So why be cryptic? I'm not even sure which way North is on a website, maybe the Keeper wants us to lynch my bookmarks bar or Google Chrome? Perhaps it means a person from "The North" which is totally relative to where the Keeper is stood and I don't think any Starks are playing anyway.

Seriously posting roles, just say what you think and maybe even why you think it.

I just read something about MP saying Daisy wouldn't be a good recruit. WTF? Are you serious? She did such an amazing job in death note and she is now your wife so you wouldnt have to hide that you are a recruiter from her. If you are a recruiter, which I still think you could be then you would be dumb not to recruit her.

Yes because married people always want to spend 100% of everything together and in Mafia are always forced onto the same team. MP recruiting Daisy (or vice versa) would be such an obvious choice that it's just crazy levels of WIFOM and not worth getting into unless there's solid reasons to believe it.

1) I never decided epi was bad. Not unilaterally or otherwise. I decided it was in my best interests that he was dead. I think he was more than likely neutral, but that he was definitely not civ. I think you still don't fundamentally understand this. I didn't set out to kill epi because I was determined and tunneling on the fact he was on one of the two mafia teams. I just don't think we would have ended up on the same team, and that means it doesn't matter WHAT alignment epi had, it was not in my interests that he was alive.

You seem to be ignoring the fact you could've ended up each on one of the two civ teams, meaning that you'd effectively have been allies capable of winning together. If you're still neutral and playing with a neutral mentality then it's not really in your interest that anyone be alive, right? As long as you are when the game ends, it doesn't matter who else is or isn't until you've been locked into a specific win condition.

2) I didn't intend to brag and sorry if it came across that way. I wanted to be honest about my own motives, that is all. And I didn't want to say 'that kill had nothing to do with me' when I feel like the honest truth is that it may have had something to do with me. If I had not been going on about killing epi, then the baddies may not have killed him (they also may have - I don't know. You are right that it is plausible it has nothing to do with me, I did not say what I said to claim credit for it. I said it because for me, saying that it had nothing to do with me would have felt dishonest because I felt like it DID have something to do with me, or at least may have). As I said to DH, sometimes it is probably smarter for me to keep my mouth shut, but I always try to be as honest as I can when I've executed a plan (obviously I couldn't say thats what I was trying to do before hand).

I feel like if you hadn't addressed Epi's death so much then there wouldn't be such a spotlight on you. It could've been you who did it, it could've been to set you up, it could've been to make you look bad or it could've been because the killer didn't like the colour of Epi's shoes. We don't know, and IMO you can't really say it was part of a plan of yours unless you were sat in a chatroom giggling maniacally about it.

Ahh the Ravens are squaking...

CHAOS! CHAOS IS UPON US! Brothers and Sisters if we are to survive this
plite, questions must be answered immediately! You know the questions.
For the answers... you must look north, for there you will find truth."

Before we figure out what this means, we need to figure out what part of this is bs and what part is informative. Plite being spelled how it is is interesting. If there is deeper meaning behind this, I would assume that north is a person, just who is it? Canuck?

Good point re: spelling of plight/plite. Could've been deliberate though. Again "North" as a person depends on where the Keeper is standing. I'm more Northern than some players and more Southern than others and if I got on a plane I could change that within a few hours. If Canuck went to Australia would she still be in the running for "North"? Maybe I'm thinking too much into this now.

More to come soon, I really wish I didn't become as busy today as I did. It's time for me to sleep now so I only posted things I saw as necessary. Also, I believe using a rez on a sorcerer is a bad Idea.

No better or worse than using it on anyone else unless Typh was definitely a baddie. I doubt anyone will use one on him anyway, if he comes back it will be on his own power. Maybe I'm just selfish with rezzes but I'd always save it for myself.

[LoRab]

@Roxy: I still find BWT suspicious, although less so after his explanation.

Team Caelia has recruited.

Well, ain't that dandy.

In my experience, "ain't that dandy," is generally said when someone feels something is, well, not dandy at all. In fact, I can't think of this phrase being used as an actual positive, outside of really, really dated tv shows and films--and I'm pretty sure you're not on Leave it to Beaver.

Anyway, my point is...uh....wouldn't a civ recruiter recruiting someone be a good thing? Why would you respond negatively?

Lorab - there are a lot of new players maybe they stopped the day bc they wanted try out their power? Odds were highest day one to take out a Neutral anyway. Feels like if they were unrecruited they would most likely be a new play to the Recruitment games.

But the timing of JJJ's post pings me.

[Long Con]

This is cute, but I am most definitely out of Unfurl's league, who am I to have feelings for her?

We are all out of unfurl's league. Unfurl is super-awesome.

I enjoyed reading DrWilgy's post with all the descriptive enhancements... but, gentlemen, I believe you are trying to say unfurl is out of your league... as in she's too good for you scrubs.

[Draconus]

MP is responding with threats now? "If you vote for me, I will vote for you"
That is atypical of him. Plus I don't like being threatened. Still some time left, assuming we actually have a 48 hour day, but MP looks no good to me.

You really think MP's response was out of character?
You think Alex being suspected, overreacting, and being rather unreasonable in the thread is unusual????
I would be suspicious if he DIDN'T do that!

1000% this.

forgot to mention this yesterday. I arrived in Pittsburgh last night to visit with some friends for the next 3 days. I'll try to take advantage of my time away from work to keep up

[Draconus]

I'm going to go ahead and place my vote on bass to help MP out. To me he sounds like genuine, frustrated, overreacting, emotional, explosive, f u MP (Don't take any of these to heart buddy ) and I'd hate to see him go out for it yet again. Also, I like Golden's "case" on bass. :parrotsmilie:

[Draconus]

Bass, put it like this.

You theorised that the recruiters were likely to be people who are known for always participating fully. That might take the heat of you as being a recruiter. I don't think you would be likely to make that statement if you were a civilian recruiter. You might if you were a baddie recruiter. I saw that statement as being likely neutral.

But, who is more likely to recruit the person admitting they aren't reading the thread?

It sounds a bit mean, but you've kind of admitted it yourself. You wouldn't make a great recruit. At least, not for the civilians who need to solve the game. But someone like that can also be very hard to lynch. Not a bad candidate for a baddie recruit.

In any event, with you I see a worst case scenario of being neutral, and that is ok with me. I'm trying to avoid lynching people who are civs. I don't think you are civ.

Before anyone asks, this is what I'm referring to.

[unfurl]

Alright. I'm all caught up now, but I'm way too tired to really post coherent thoughts. Thankfully I only work a half-day tomorrow, so I will have plenty of time in the afternoon to be around then. The best I can do for tonight is to just keep up with the thread.

So what are you thoughts for this lynch? you voted for a low poster day 1, Dfaraday, which also brings the question? are you still looking at him? is not like he has changed anything?
What do you think of the people that voted for you? do you think they still looking at you?

[unfurl]

This is cute, but I am most definitely out of Unfurl's league, who am I to have feelings for her?

We are all out of unfurl's league. Unfurl is super-awesome.

I enjoyed reading DrWilgy's post with all the descriptive enhancements... but, gentlemen, I believe you are trying to say unfurl is out of your league... as in she's too good for you scrubs.

Insert blushing smilie here

[Marmot]

(The Speaker of) Serenity also said this.

Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

Well maybe the Speaker should do a little more Speaking on the topic.

No way man. Day 2 is sheep day. Listen to our glorious Speaker and vote for Turnip Head.

[reywaS]

@Roxy: I still find BWT suspicious, although less so after his explanation.

Team Caelia has recruited.

Well, ain't that dandy.

In my experience, "ain't that dandy," is generally said when someone feels something is, well, not dandy at all. In fact, I can't think of this phrase being used as an actual positive, outside of really, really dated tv shows and films--and I'm pretty sure you're not on Leave it to Beaver.

Anyway, my point is...uh....wouldn't a civ recruiter recruiting someone be a good thing? Why would you respond negatively?

Lorab - there are a lot of new players maybe they stopped the day bc they wanted try out their power? Odds were highest day one to take out a Neutral anyway. Feels like if they were unrecruited they would most likely be a new play to the Recruitment games.

But the timing of JJJ's post pings me.

you're assuming it was a negative response. Why not just ask me if it was? Did you read the other posts I made right afterward? I had just smoked a doobie and was feeling spammy.

[aapje]

Sebass (my son) does have this job going crazy right now. I know he has not had time to catch up. I don't like the tone of his posts but for right now I am willing to give him a chance.

Which player is he?

@Rey: why did you vote the non player option?

[unfurl]

About the messages posted from The Speaker of Serenity and the Keeper of Ravens
The issue that I see with roles that can post messages on the thread, is that we dont know the identity or the intentions behind it?
From probabilities is more likely early on that player is civvie-neutral, but later on it can become an old fashion witchunt
It can become very handy to help to figure out things if they are receiving extra-knowledge but also good to keep an open mind

[unfurl]

@ aapje
Bass_the_Clever is Roxy´s son

[Roxy]

Sebass (my son) does have this job going crazy right now. I know he has not had time to catch up. I don't like the tone of his posts but for right now I am willing to give him a chance.

Which player is he?

@Rey: why did you vote the non player option?

Sorry I did not even realize I did not use his user name. unfurl is right he is Bass_the_Clever.

A lot of people put votes in all will nilly when they know they can change them. I try not to pay attention to the votes until we get closer to lynch time.

[reywaS]

Sebass (my son) does have this job going crazy right now. I know he has not had time to catch up. I don't like the tone of his posts but for right now I am willing to give him a chance.

Which player is he?

@Rey: why did you vote the non player option?

so that I don't have to keep clicking view results

[nutella]

DrW kind of reminds me of Merlin the Wizzard. *wipes tear*

[aapje]

Sebass (my son) does have this job going crazy right now. I know he has not had time to catch up. I don't like the tone of his posts but for right now I am willing to give him a chance.

Which player is he?

@Rey: why did you vote the non player option?

so that I don't have to keep clicking view results

That's actually not an awful idea

DrW kind of reminds me of Merlin the Wizzard. *wipes tear*

Wow totally forgot about that guy

I see TB has voted for TH without posting about it. Looking through her posts I can't see any mention of TH at all so I'd like to hear her reasoning for that vote.