Ricochet wrote:LoRab wrote:Ricochet wrote:LoRab wrote:Ricochet wrote:Time is growing important, since we are already within the interval in which the Judge can lockdown this place - he's been vigilent before, but so far he's not quick to draw the curtains; can this mean he's not content or approving with the main wagons and/or doesn't want to shortcircuit the EoD? Could be.
There's a huge difference, imho, between ending day early and locking down the thread. One ends discussion--the other does not. And ending night early is a mixed bag (and different entirely). Either of those actions could have either good or bad strategy behind them. Without saying so explicitly, you seem to imply that the prior lockdown was also connected to his role. Which makes me wonder.
Also noting that you earlier posted about the number of baddies and added an extra person to one of the baddie teams in your count. Which could increase paranoia and is a tactic oft used by the evil (make things seem worse than they are).
Starting to wonder if your posting is intentional and subtle misdirection.
What am I misdirecting towards? How or where did I imply that "the prior lockdown was also connected to his [err The Judge?] role"? The prior lockdown was Ubzargan's. What I implied is that, compared to Ubzargan who most likely reveled in locking the thread at a point of a two-way tie, Judge seems much more cautious. I also implied by his vigilence that he's clearly been active and responsive with his past actions, so I do not doubt he'd be ready to lockdown this Day, if he sees fit, but the fact that he hasn't yet is further implication of his cautious view on the current development.
Also, yeah, I can't count properly. Oooo, evil.
It read to me like you were creating an association with all prior lynches that included an aspect of closedness. And you were not painting a picture of caution in general, in fact you even said that he was quick to draw prior to this.
And the sarcasm in the "oooo, evil" response does not lesson suspicion. It actually makes it a smidge pingier on the suspiciometer. Blowing off suspicion is often a thing baddies do.
Not ready to lynch you, but definitely eyeballing you.
All lynches except D2 were facilitated by tallies being frozen or shut down. This is factual. If the Judge will lockdown this Day at any point until EoD, he will technically facilitate a lynch result by shutting down activity. Huge association there, what can I say.
All of the Judge's previous actions were quick. This is factual. You are correct I didn't call the Judge cautious in general, because I didn't. I called him cautious with using his current lockdown. It is only you who say I painted a picture of caution in general.
Your sentence about blowing off suspicion being a baddie trait is hypocritical, considering half the times you blow off suspicions on you with Eye-me-all-you-wants, twirls and claims that your game is misunderstood. Besides, if there's anything I'm blowing, it's ridiculous suspicions, not suspicions per se. Just to prove that, I also happened to count the civ teams having an extra member, before the Hosts actually confirmed that recruiting as finalized. Is that supposed to mean, by contrast, that I'm giving civs hope? Is that supposed to mean anything, just like me accidentally writing one extra baddie in a camp is supposed to mean anything? Of course not. Me not getting my mechanics talk or facts/stats check always accurate is no real surprise. Smidge pinge away.
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LoRab wrote:There's a huge difference, imho, between ending day early and locking down the thread. One ends discussion--the other does not.
Also, what sources do you have on this?
The D3 lockdown closed the thread, hence ending discussion along with voting until EoD (due to the timing of the lockdown). So it must mean that you say that ending a Day early doesn't end discussion.
Yet the previous end of a phase, as a mechanic, was a night end (Night 3), which ended as soon as the Judge's action was validated. It ended discussion, voting for positions and sending actions. A skip to the next phase (D4) followed.
That would mean the same mechanics apply for ending a Day early. The reason why D1 did not end early properly was because the Hosts couldn't validate the Judge's action in real time. That doesn't mean his action wasn't validated - all votes and actions after he sent his action were invalidated. Hence that would mean the early end would have ended discussion, as well, producing a skip to the next phase (N2).
So no idea what you're crafting suspicions out of or grasping at.[/quote]
Like I said, subtle misdirection. So that you can come back and say it wasn't there and so that it might not be noticed.
What sources do I have? How it has worked in this game and how I have seen day stops work in other games? I'm not sure why here is a question there. Also, even with the night stop, the thread didn't stop--that is a huge difference. When people cannot post for an extended period, their thinking changes by the time they can post. Locking the thread is different regardless. Not sure why your are trying to argue that. Even when day immediately followed night, discussion was not interrupted.
And, no, it's not hypocritical. Defending an action and explaining why it does not make me bad is NOT the same as blowing off an accusation and saying that the accusation is not even worth responding to.
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