Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

#5251

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
timmer wrote:
Ricochet wrote: But you'd rather hand a bad leader a way out of getting lynched by voting position 2?

How so?
I can't properly answer either of these questions without revealing my role, etc. so suffice to say that I'm comfortable voting for Position 2.
I found timmer's role guys:

Ubzargan Unnihilator - Enemy of Uzbekistan

Position 1- Give Ubzargan an anal prolapse that makes him super embarrassed
Position 2- Give Ubzargan a 'Goochi-Goochi-Goo" which makes him laugh uncontrollably in thread
Position 3- Give Ubzargan an horrific STD based strictly on the plot of 'It Follows'
Position 4- Give Ubzargan a dank hipster alarm clock but remotely turn off his alarms at night so he misses an important meeting
Position 5- Give Ubzargan a bath. He hates baths!

Weird that you like position 2 out of those...I just wanna know what his Epic Challenge is.

A wild Ublaragon has appeared. Laughing maniacally.

I think I will flee.

Nah. You should master ball that SoB.

#5252

Ok, here it bloody is. Three-day endeavour, guys. I'll definitely have to stop doing this. I thought a field down to 22-23 would be reasonable, but it's just grueling. We'll see if I get repaid with a kill tonight, especially from Ubzlatan. Or you know, you could embrace the hunt, Uzblake, my man! I wouldn't mind the vigis/SK staying away from me, either.

EDIT: omg I broke the 60k characters limit

so splitting it in two

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
aapje	Could be	Unlikely	Inconclusive

ISO

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings:
-- D6 flip-flop on Wilgy

Meta notes:
--defending teammates
--extra-meta reliance
--objective: stay alive, win recruited

I can see appje being recruited by either sides for his stats-man skills. Wildly detached from any hunting and tunnelling for one particular wallflower, but consistent with his credo to stay low.

Torn if he would feed Bubbles to the field (his remarks on Bubbles' reaction got picked up, after all), but Bubbles was bussing material after being saved D4. Inclined to say he's not on Team Ubz.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
DFaraday / Bass 2.0.	Inconclusive	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings: Bass 2.0. even more inactive than Bass 1.0., in case one thought I can't be possible

Meta notes: DF - not a great survivor

I got literally nothing. It's like squeezing water out of stones. Maybe DF got recruited and Bass got told to keep his inactivity, for "consistency", but this is pure tin foil and it could come from either sides - inactives have so far been swept only by Ahriman. Bass' inactivity always throws me off and I know there's RL behind it, but it simply isn't crackable under civ/bad traits.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
bea	Maybe?	Unlikely	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings: activity really slippin'

Meta notes:
-- would recruit better teammates
-- D1s are crapshoot
-- her civ game is comfort zone
-- fluff posts habit

It's true that her activity and consistency has been slipping and that she may have reached recruit camp haven, but unlike how TH feels, her previous content doesn't fully make me equate bad + recruited. From the gut, I'd suspect bea being recruited early on if any team is a nostalgia club, but that's about it.

Her Bubbles suspecting doesn't give me the vibe that she'd be Uz camping. Way too much bussing needed for that to be true. Her worst thing that comes up is her Wilgy vote, two days in a row. Totally unreasoned, wagoning Bullzeye's case the first time, voting and disappearing the second time (sorry to hear about RL problems, bea).

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
BWT	Yes	He's Ubz	No, because he's Ubz

I believe you have my case.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Boomslang	Leaning neutral, but slightly	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Meta notes: skeptical of empirical meta

Tough to say. He makes rare, but condensed posts. He once said some things make more sense in his head than in the thread. He has a bit of detachment and a couple of out-of-the-field votes that makes me read him as neutral and keeping the distance. His mislynch record isn't very good, of course. His Golden suspicion had a thread, but he botched the D3 vote completely. He read Wilgy bad from the interaction with Bubbles, but this one doesn't reek entirely of mischevious mislynching, tbh. Very tough to say, can't call him a clear suspect right now.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Bullzeye	Could be	Not sure	Not sure

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Meta notes: would recruit better players, according to alignment

Spotty stuff, with some issues or debates that didn't make his game breezy at all so far. No doubt active throughout the entire game, but if his Days 1 -4 make me lean an active neutral (meaning neither embracing every big issue - for instance, he mislynched Bass, but didn't suspect Golden beyond some flaws in his judgement -, nor sidelining hard), his engagement and embrace of serious issues (switches, baddie behaviour, etc.) sounds like a gear switch, so I could find it possible that he's recruited.

I can't decide which side he's on, though. Sometimes he posts stuff like his D6 reads or certain rebuttals that makes me feel better about him, then some replies or views get stingey again. Interesting to me that BWT came almost the most benign in his opinion, from the players he read on D6. He made the right call on Bubbles D5 (even though he didn't have time to fully develop the suspicion, only catch up on it), then he got it wrong with Wilgy. The latter doesn't scream orchestration, but it's definitely not something to overlook.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Canuck	Inconclusive	Highly unlikely	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings:
-- DH-SVS D7 stance?
-- TH waffleness?

Meta notes: recruit criterias: fun, skill, WIFOM value (bad); skill, record, staying clean (civ)

Her neutral credo is strong and I don't think it fluctuated. However, I also have the feeling that a player like her, after such strong statements, could also have the ability to maintain composure, if she'd be recruited, not to draw suspicion for changing her gameplay significantly. The slight fluctuations I noticed have more to do with her reads, like going back and forth on TH or deeming SVS civ-like only to consider DH's hunt, too. Despite her stat candidacy to be Uzbecky, I highly doubt that she was teammates with Bubbles (although, due to the dynamic of the game, there's also a slight chance Bubbles was recruited later, after which Canuck's case on her, if part of Uzb team, would only be convenient and consistent). Slight wobbles in her Bubbles conviction when her lynch started snowballing, but I'd read such concerns as genuine. If this were a traditional game, I'd find Canuck's game civ-like by and large; in this case, she could still be unrecruited or mask successfully - but bad vibes, I am not getting. Maybe TH and her are in a team, but I don't feel as good about TH. She lynched Wilgy for all the reasons Wilgy got mislynched, but I definitely don't find her the most suspicious for it, right now.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka	Vigi/SK odds
Devin	Yes (or 3P)	Could be	Why not	Could be

ISO:

Spoiler: show

First off, I think at some point Devin was tagged as "doing what he always does" and "being too bad of a choice to be recruited (by baddies)". It's D9, I think we should ease up on that. Low posters haven't been threatened one bit so far, except for DP being killed by Ahriman [EDIT: well I wrote this D8, so yeah, except Syn too]. Saying it's not likely doesn't mean it can't happen this time. So from the low posters, my eye is definitely on him. His Golden vote was awful, most of his votes, except for BWT (for meta), are based on other people's cases and that D6 comment on why Uzbekistan wouldn't let Bubbles get lynched is weird.

But the biggest thing that stood out to me was when early on he once acknowledged the game is hard for him to perform, but that he doesn't want to ask for replacement either. Is it out of pride? Perhaps. Is it to battle on as an unrecruited? Real early to have such high hopes. So I think it is because either he's been recruited and has a spot / function / role to defend or he is the vigi or SK that wants to hold on to the role and do things his way. That Bubbles wagon and indiference addressed at Uzby's switch actions makes me think he could be an Uzbeg.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Dharma	Yes	No	No

Yeaaaah, I'm not combing through 8 pages of dingus dangus, maybe maybes and shenanigans. His SVS case was the only solid one he came with and that matter seems to have been settled. Bit weird to hand out "civ" tags for such actions, but there you have it, welcome to Recruitement Mafia. I guess it's also a lesson for those with strict "civ cause" mentality. People can act differently no matter the grand cause.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
LoRab	Maybe	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

D0: "everyone will play civ-friendly from the start" is dangerous assumption
D1 - critical of Golden's gambling fallacy
D1 - alongside Daisy, critical of those claiming this isn't civ vs. good
D1 - keeps TH (for claiming there are no good-bad sides) and Rox in mind
D1 - doesn't like that BWT gave an incomplete "low posters" list, votes him
D1 - finds Golden frustrated
N1 - questions BWT post-lynch, satisfied, but still keeping an eye on him
N1 - thinks the Judge has been recruited based on his D1 action
N1 - suspects JJJ's timing and tone of his D1 comment on people rushing to vote
D2 - replies to Roxy that BWT suspicion has waned
D2 - picks on rey's "dandy" tone to Caelia's recruiting
D2 - votes BWT again [no strong counter candidates]
D2 - finds JJJ's reactions to her suss over the top
N2 - likes JJJ's contribution and wouldn't like to lose that simply because of her out there theories
N2 - would have changed her vote to Bass for his MP civ comment
D3 - jumps on Golden for his comments, stances, contradictions
D3 - growing suss on Golden for not being civ friendly
D3 - claims neutrality and playing civ-friendly
D3 - adds up to Golden suss with his asking to be lynched
D3 - states no solid suspicions on anyone bad recruited
D3 - reconsiders Golden vote due to his pleas
D3 - votes TH for his contradictions in mentality
D3 - more rebuttals
D4 - rebuttals to Llama and TH, plus snark reply to JJJ
D4 - votes TH again (same suspicion, no other suspicion)
D4-D5 - Rico-LoRab exchange
D4 - no reads on Boom, Sorsha neutral, Bubbles hesitant to call (meta)
D5 - still suspects Rico and TH
D6 - calls Caelia wrong or misinformed with her message
D6 - asks Rico his thoughts on his rezz, votes TH (same suspicions)
D6 - finds Syn's boost in posting (and suss of SVS) ringing false
D6 - suspects Wilgy for Bubbles defending and for "his style"
D6 - suss on Wilgy grows because of his WIFOM comments
D7 - still suspects Wilgy, but not enough + him being silenced counts
D7 - disbelief in Rico's unrecruited claims and rezz replies
D8 - doubts what Synonym is saying would come from a baddie
D8 - could see Bea being bad (tone read)

Notable moodswings:
-- JJJ suss went where
-- rey suss went where
-- bit tangly in this post

Meta notes:
-- reactions to accusations matter
-- roles benefit the player
-- eyeballin' civ-unfriendly actions
-- putting out there theories and drumming

You'll notice that I added a lot of meta input and stances from her, since it's an important part of her gaming (here and in general). I can't say, however, that I found major inconsistencies. Maybe after she started the game saying never to assume all neutrals will play civ-friendly, her D3 stance that she's neutral but trying to play civ-friendly rings a bit false, but it can also be her mentality of the game vs. her mentality of her own game. Or it can mean she has been recruited by a team and she's blocking reads on that through denial and insisting on good intentions. Her unwillingness to expand on baddie reads (remember she had none yet by D3?) can be a way to stay away from mislynches coming back to bite her.

She's tunnelling on her major cases, but what else is new. She can keep doing that all the way through the game, as an unrecruited. She can keep doing that all the way through the game as a recruited civ. Can she be doing that all the way through as a recruited baddie? That is perhaps a question worth thinking about.

I'm curious what happened with her JJJ and rey suspicions. It can be an inconsistency or a sign of mentality change. I'm personally reading JJJ as having been good-oriented, so if LoRab joined him, then I guess she dropped the suss on him. I'm personally reading rey as suspicious, so if she joined him, it can be an attempt to bury both her Golden mislynch and rey's own faults in that affair. Out of sight, out of mind.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
MetalMarsh89	Neutral	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

I'm really not that much of a masochist. There are some neutrals left, at this point, so I'm going to hand out one of these tags to him. When an MM post will scream baddie to me, I'll shout and maybe do the damn ISO after all.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
nutella	Could be	Hmm	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings: flip on BWT?

Meta notes: admits doing clueless easy bandwagoning

Christ, that's a lot of stances, but the substance of those and her activity is actually less impressive than that. Her rey votes and suss's feel like a pivot, many other votes and suss's are weaker or borrowed. She even has a way of admitting to easy bandwagon, which is intriguing.

Her early flip on BWT (D1-D2), her switch on Bubbles and her cluelessness stated in hunting Bubbles teammates are twitching my nose a bit towards the Ububblez camp. Her beef with Dom twitched my nose a bit towards the Executioner, as well, but the rest of his victims or targets (Typhoony, MP-failed, G Man, LoRab-failed, JJJ-failed) are players she kept distance from or approve of. Maybe that's the point?

Last but not least, due to her early approval of Tim's "unrecruited stances", together with the vibe of her involvement, I could concede that maybe she's still unrecruited, but overall if I were to get a recruited vibe, it's leaning towards baddie.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
rey	Yes	Dunno	Could be

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Four and half pages are his first three Days alone, so check my grand "story of Golden" to see how I ISO'd rey and what parts pinged me about it, I'm not doing it all over again.

I can understand his need for the siesta, but I didn't like the span of it and still don't and I like his "I lost grip on the game" comeback even less. He voted DP on D5, a player that barely played, a vote that didn't amount to anything. Wagons Wilgy to counter other wagons, but spends his reasoning post to talk about a different suspect. All this is highly unsubstantial. Again, burnout could be real, but the Golden affair gives me more the orchestrator rather than mislyncher vibe in his case and so his crash into low posting can be read as staying the heck put. I think he's bad.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Roxy	Could be	No vibe	No vibe

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Meta notes:
-- picked players new in BTSC
-- prefers fun game
-- wants to focus on recruits

This'll be a very big blind spot for me, if Rox will flip bad, but so far I am not getting bad vibes from her. I think my only gripe would be how starting D3 or so she demanded recruits to be the focus, but without pursuing a clear cut between civ recruits and bad recruits; then again, she had clear bad vibes on people, some of which I agree with myself. I don't see quite what she saw in JJJ, but her case doesn't have any nefarious traits (forcing, spinning, etc.). She's combining playing a fun game, the way she prefers it to be, but also manages to stay engaged.

#5253

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Scotty	Inconclusive	No vibe	No vibe

ISO:

Spoiler: show

D1 - has no leads; is interested in sorting out Guardians from Sorcerers for some reason
D1 - finds Bass' theory on sign-ups good, because of the sign up polls format
D1 - reads Epi-Golden benign, MP possible recruiter, Wilgy's vote not unnatural
D1 - not sure about Golden's outbursts; pretty dismissive of the debate amount
D1 - votes SVS for thinking she has some kind of power
N1 - clarifies vote on SVS and dismisses Dom's BTSC case
D2 - unsure how to read MP's frustrations (not quite the frustrated civ from Watchmen)
D2 - votes MP
D2 - flips out over RL and losing a big post, votes himself
D2 - reads Golden and rey neutral, not Epig's killers
D2 - sees JJJ and SVS on same team; thinks MM is Raven, finds TH all over the place
N2 - still finds Golden neutral
N2 - finds JJJ candidate for recruiting (big baddie hunting, could stear in any direction)
D3 - placehold votes for JJJ
D3 - rebuttals with JJJ
D3 - finds SVS possible recruit material,
D3 - dislikes appje for his no-show lynch strategy and for his TH suss going nowhere
D3 - votes appje for not baddie hunting
D3 - confused by Bubbles's statements, finds her recruit material
D3 - votes Bubbles, for finding her top recruiting candidate
D4 - would have switched to Boom for his Golden vote
D4 - reads on Golden voters
D4 - reads on Golden voters, continued, finds rey and SVS likely civ, MP suspicious
D4 - votes Bubbles for her posts tone
D4 - read on DH, calls him shifty
D4 - disagrees with Roxy on Boomslang not being good rec material
D4 - hesitant to call DH's shiftiness bad
D4 - read on Dom, finds him sollid in arguments, starts to doubt hounders would be bad
D4 - read on Sorsha, suspects her for contradiction on "Golden framer"
D4 - switches to Sorsha
D4 - interested in replies from TB, Wilgy, DP, MM, DH
N4 - wary of Bubbles after the lynch switch
D5 - doesn't understand or like MoSh's contribution
D5 - reads Dom as unrecruited neutral, despite baddie agressiveness
D5 - still finds JJJ dangerous candidate
D5 - finds DH's case-making out of character, possible Uz recruited
D5 - votes Bubbles for not improving
N5 - finds Bubbles lynch very bad for Wilgy
D6 - votes Wilgy
D6 - doesn't see Sorsha as potential Ubzeksis
D6 - read on llama, concerned with his D5 avoidance
D6 - questions Syn on gameplay, dismisses Caelia's messages, questions TH Boom vote
D6 - acknowledges DH's SVS case, but doesn't sense tone switch, still sussing Wilgy
N6 - still considers Wilgy took a gamble to defend Bubbles and came up short
D7 - votes Wilgy
D7 - doesn't like Roxy's attitude and avoidance of questions
D7 - confused by DH voting SVS and thinking she's a baddie
D7 - considers quiet people, and BWT's distancing of late, worth looking into
D7 - considers TH prime Uzbekisguy candidate, with Wilgy as his recruit
D7 - votes TH
D8 - takes responsability for Wilgy mislynch
D8 - considers Judge being on Caelia's lynch, due to Caelia's lynch window
D8 - finds lynch looking very bad for Synonym, suspects TH and BWT
D8 - unsure why Spacedaisy suspects him and what happened with her Llama suss
D8 - reads into Syn wagon, doesn't like any of the votes, considers voting TH again
N8 - woes Syn mislynch
N8 - eyeballs Bullzeye for D8 stances on talking about Ubzeggy

Meta notes:
-- doesn't like position 5 much
-- focused on big posters & egos
-- would not be bold n brash as rec
-- blendy n shifty would lean bad
-- reading much into Host Posts

I'll be rueing my sweet ass if this is basically Scotty's revenge turn to slip my radar and betray the whole game in the process (after what I did in Watchmen), but I don't see anything to ping me. The Sorsha dynamic is a bit wobbly throughout the Days, but that's about all regarding that. He's also starting to borrow from the Dragon Book of mislynching, but I'm reading him rather stubborn on suspecting potential bussers than orchestrating that angle in any way. His style is very consistent, in case he got recruited along the way, which I was I can't project it. If he is, I very much doubt he's in Uzcamp (except if massive Fool You Hard, Leave No Traces mode); not sure about Azcamp, but he could be missing material to look for those baddies as much as anyone else, right now.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Sorsha	Maybe?	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings:
-- TB flip D5?
-- double standard w. Canuck?
-- D6 hunting

Meta notes: D1 voting anxiety

If this were a regular format game, I'd call my read on her neutral-like. I'm not sure that translates just as well into reading her neutral (unrecruited) here, but I'm not leaning towards the extremes either.

Her D6 change of pace could be symptomatic. I don't find her that suspicious in the Golden affair (I get what Wilgy and Scotty have brought up, but only find a few points noteworthy). Her Bubbles D5 affair looks much worse; until then, my sense were saying "no way she bussed Bubbles that hard". But with Bubbles probably recruited around D4-D5, Sorsha's D5 wobble made my nose twitch, @ almost Ubzcamp levels. I'm still mulling over if it was a bad wobble, or a bad fine-tune to Bubbles becoming her teammates. I don't understand where her SVS vote came from. I agree with the late JJJ that her D6 stuff reads more like hard work and more solid viewpoints.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Spacedaisy	Could be?	Unsure	Unsure

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Notable moodswings:
-- picks on Canuck, but nut Nutella
-- activity gone cold

Meta notes: would recruit in balanced way

Really unsure about her, her activity has gone real cold, with only moments of jumping on a case or stance and keeping pressure on that for the entire Day. Neither this, nor her previous "big posts", make me comfortable, because she really has an unlucky meta this past year of doing that as a blendy, but focused baddie (Death Note, Guess Who). Overall, if people are looking into under-the-radar players, I think they should read and make up their mind about SD in particular.

I think both her and LoRab's "playing for the civ cause" angle and demands are a bit twitchy, I think her big stance to treat this as a "civ vs bad" only refers to how the view will look in the end of the game, yet she eyeballed (and even voted) players like Canuck or timmer for their neutrality credo. Later on, she understands, instead, nutella's choice of keeping the distance. She wobbled re: Sorsha as well, from calling her "civ vigi killed Epi" ideas far-fetched to taking her off the hook for a one-liner rebuttal to SVS sounding genuine. Similarly, she never criticises Bubbles for her indecisiveness, but the next Day I think she was among the first to call her lynch reaction off.There is a part of that that makes me wonder if Bubbles wasn't her teammate and she had to readjust real quick to the lynch switch and to buss TB.

D8, considers voting SVS why? Voted Syn why? Mirrored Wilgy reluctance why?

Idk, these are kinda real pinges and not being able to give a verdict on her gameplay sort of unsettles me. Her sink in activity could be a recruited moodswing or a desire to stay low as unrecruited.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Llama	Unsure	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

D0 - asks Bubbles the bad question
D1 - vote choice secure; elaborates on Bubbles
D1 - agrees with bea on wiggle room being a baddie hallmark
D1 - finds BWT prone to make unforced errors early on
D1 - likes JJJ's energy
D1 - believes MP could recruit Spacedaisy, as an ideal candidate
D1 - doesn't find Golden, Epi, MM bad
D2 - wary of MP overcorrecting him on Spacedaisy recruit theory, then overreacting
D2 - votes MP as strongest ping
N2 - agrees that TH's D2 reasoning was weak, but not unlike him
N2 - feeling worse about nutella (Bass flip), TH, unfurl, Bubbles
N2 - could see Golden pulling the Epi kill; could see DH as a powerful recruit
N2 - disapproves of JJJ pressuring Bass into reads
D3 - votes DH for being uneasy about being on rainbow lists
D3 - not comfortable lynching Golden
D4 - doesn't get case on Boomslang, doesn't think SVS was nefarious in her hunt
D4 - suspects Bubbles, DH, unfurl, LoRab
D4 - votes Bubbles
D4 - doesn't trust unfurl for her defense
D4 - doesn't like Sorsha wagoners, notably nutella and unfurl
D4 - finds MP's case on Devin contrived
D5 - considers Ubzargan would use his power no matter what
D5 - sides with Dom on MP brawl
D5 - placehold votes DP for apathetic posts, finds Bubbles post entirely insincere
D5 - agrees about timmer advocating neutral lynches, but claiming neutrality is fishy
D5 - approves a case from DH, but still finds him suspicious and doesn't think SVS is
D5 - votes DH, finds him early recruited, before deciding on a style
D6 - splits Bubbles case into interactions and non-interactions, singles out Bullzeye
D6 - suspects Bullz for being defensive
D6 - dismisses Daisy's case (no chance to save her, illogical to not buss her if teammate)
D6 - wary of Wilgy for defending Bubbles and suspecting SVS for logic issues
D6 - votes Wilgy for above
D7 - considers baddies are sidelining
D7 - agrees with Scotty's under-the-radar list, not convinced of his TH case
D7 - undecided between Wilgy and TH, tempted to leave the tie between them
D7 - not finding Syn dangerous, hesistating about Wilgy's silencing
D7 - votes Wilgy nevertheless
D7 - certain Rico is recruited
D7 - wary of Synonym pile-up
D8 - votes Synonym, thinking he was saved. Adopts Occam razor

Meta notes:
-- recruiters are nervous early on
-- would pick dependable recs

I'm not convinced by Daisy's case on him overall and after doing all these reads, I'm also not getting the Bubbles teammate vibe from him. I'm not getting any moodswings from him, although I'm a bit sure he would be able to cultivate his gameplay for it to not be sensed so well. His TH reluctance on D7 strikes a bit odd, he had him on the suspects lists quite a lot.

Until getting to D8 in my ready, I was ready to think that Syn and him might be teammates, because I don't expect of Llama to give so much BOTD to an inactive / low poster. But then he votes Synonym D8, under the same impulse as voting Bubbles D5. So if Syn was an Ahri Man, I don't think Llama can be one. So if he's recruited, that leaves more chances for him to be on one of the bad camps than on Caelia's side. But I'm not running with such stats too deep atm. I'm going to eat my fucking words if I'm wrong, of course, but at the moment, I don't have Llama as a suspect, none of these pings are significant enough.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Timmer	Unsure	Highly unlikely	Unsure

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Meta notes:
-- neutrality credo
-- support people true to themselves
-- vote people who give false vibe
-- neutral =/= apathetic

A full revisit was helpful to get a full sense of his credo. I assume he's adopting it all over again, compared to RecIII, and facing the same issues. In no way am I not respecting or understanding his credo (to the best extent I can, that is), but I still think there are issues. Where Canuck's take on it and gameplay feels pretty right, I'm getting wrong vibes from Timmer instead. His idea that he'll morph into his civ game or his bad game when he'll be recruited simply cannot be fully taken at face value; if he'll switch bad, he'd have to hide it right away and force the neutral act even more; if he'll switch good, he'd probably have to fine tune it, not to make it obvious and expose himself to baddie kills. I just can't see the changes he implies will genuinely happen; and since my feel is that he can stay intentionally stubborn with his neutral act, it makes me uneasy towards him.

He is the definition of a moodchanger in this game, from wagoning to making arguments and back again, but somehow I still can't tell from it if a switch occured. He has been slightly more engaged the past Days, but he also had RL time off the early Days. His wagoning and flipping, in itself, is real annoying, in no way would I imagine anyone getting away with this in a traditional game. I don't get why he switched away from Bubbles on D5, but I find it unlikely he's Uzbaddie nonetheless. He's become rather insistent on TH the past Days and I don't see any background to it, from previous Days; maybe it's something subtle.

Overall, I'd hate for him to really be unrecruited and get his tactic game ruined (again?), but I'm not all approving of the way he does it and I don't believe there'll be a future moment where his "morph" will come off as genuine or obvious. It either happened, it'll either happen or it won't happen at all. We have to decide for ourselves where he's at, methinks.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Tranq	Inconclusive	Inconclusive	Inconclusive

ISO:

Spoiler: show

Meta notes:
-- would recruit for skill and exp
-- would recruit aapje, Typh, SVS

Hard to squeeze conclusions out of her very few and very low contributions. D5 onwards feels more focused, which could be a tone indication of a recruitement. Her Bubbles vote was actually fairly original, so I doubt her being in that camp. Overall I'd suspect her for low activity about the same as any low poster, but compared to others (such as Devin), her posts don't scream baddie to me very much.

Player	Recruit odds	Mafia odds - Ubzekistan	Mafia odds - Azurenka
Turnip Head	Could be	Unsure	Unsure

ISO:

Spoiler: show

D1 - infamous comment on all recruiters being equal in power and self-interested
D1 - pinged by BWT for reasons he can't fully explain
D1 - considers voting BWT, because he finds his game off, for an unrecruited
D1 - votes BWT for gut feeling and his lazy DF vote
D2 - keeps BWT suss for his last word reaction, agrees with suspicion on Bass as well
D2 - reads MP fine
D2 - defends his neutrals comment to aapje as being said by a neutral
D2 - finds votes for Bubbles weak
D2 - finds Epi-Golden neutral-neutral
D2 - doesn't see Golden's bad game
D2 - wary of Jay
D2 - doesn't believe Golden WIFOMd the bait, but can understand him being a threat
D2 - not feeling a Bass or Golden vote
D2 - considers rey being on Azura team
D2 - votes Bass
N2 - denies being off with his reads
N2 - rebuttal on his Bass vote: not wasting it on other wagons, voting somewhere
N2 - doesn't think flip-flopping i sproblematic
D3 - considers Scotty exagerrating his read on him
D3 - places vote on rey
D3 - disapproves of Lorab neutrals angle (calls it trying to lynch neutrals)
D3 - rebuttals to LoRab
D3 - dislikes LoRab's neutral stance (finds it unhelpful)
D3 - finds Boomslang's self-vote the least genuine and snarkiest
D4 - votes LoRab for her stance
D4 - pinged by BWT leaving out Azura's actions in assessing the manipulations
D4 - pinged by Devin for his placeholding vote and bandwagoning
D4 - votes JJJ?
D5 - votes JJJ again, finds him recruited
D5 - elaborates JJJ suspicious (emulating civ game, but not hitting the mark)
D5 - embraces several viewpoints on Bubbles and lynch switch
D5 - mostly embraces switch being a chaos action
D5 - rebuttal to JJJ
D6 - finds Bullzeye as defensive and spinning SVS's take on his play
D6 - likes Spacedaisy's post
D6 - votes Boomslang, finds him Uzcandidate
D6 - doubtful of Wilgy defending Bubbles
D7 - rebuttal to Scotty: would not stick his neck out for a doomed teammate
D7 - recap of LoRab's suspicion on him, calls for no original new input
D8 - votes bea, thinks she's been recruited (and for odd lack of content)
D8 - likes Synonym's threatening attitude, but not his actions
D8 - in reply to Rico's case, suspected BWT on and off
D8 - votes BWT when he calls for it

Notable moodswings:
-- JJJ D4 vote - wat de wat
-- indistinct recruit vote
-- slight drop in activity since D6

Meta notes:
-- claims wanting to stay unrec
-- team neutral 4 life (options open)
-- defends neutrals

Yeah, I have a few issues with his game. I'm partial regarding what inconsistencies Scotty or LoRab brought up. On the other hand, his defense of his D1 stance to someone like LoRab sounds different than how he addressed it back when he said it, in dialogue with players like DH. He's also trimming a bit LoRab's stance of Golden from "I think he's neutral, but anti-civ in how he plays" to "I think he's neutral", making it sound like she wants to lynch neutrals for being neutrals.

A bigger issue for me is when he defended neutrals, for potentially ending up on either side in the future, but then made some initial hunt claims towards certain players (JJJ and bea, I think) whilst forgetting the dichotomy between civ and bad recruits. He refined the reasoning towards both players shortly afterwards, but that's what it feels like, a fine-tune under inquiry. My overall vibe is that it's like this could come from baddie-like TH, who can hang on in defenses for as long as possible, but doesn't come off as completely genuine.

My third issue is his rather wobbly evolution during D5's Bubbles affair, from seeing her responses suspicious to advocating the switch was pure chaos and not a save attempt (all the way to a sort of snarky reply to Bullzeye I don't even get why it was called for). His defense against accusations (that he'd never openly defend a doomed teammate) sounds reasonable, but see paragraph above. Baddie TH can find a niche to sound reasonable in defending, but not get himself off the hook completely. I'm slightly leaning on that.

So, overall, I could tag him as suspicious. Maybe even slighly Uzbicious.

#5254

So that's a bit too many players I made Uz connections for, for my taste, but an Azura angle in the future would certainly refine things.

#5255

Wow. That all looks like it was fun to put together.

#5256

Burn out is real. I have not been recruited and I am not a recruiter. If you really think about it, doesn't that make the most sense?

#5257

Wow Ricochet - thats a fucking impressive endeavor you undertook. I will beat you upside your head with a large smelly trout if you turn out to be bad. Oh thee by this I do swear.

Also if anyone has questions the would like to ask leggyorlyb she is the the hotseat this week in the Interrogation Room

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5258

Wow, nice work Rico. It's a lot to take in and I don't know how much it helps me personally visualize stuff but good on you for putting in that effort.

Your conclusions about me are misguided though. I was dissuaded by the D2 BWT wagon, it's true, but that was mostly because people didn't seem to have solid cases against him, not because I was discounting the possibility he was bad. Tbh he fell off my radar for a while but when you brought him up in your Ubz case I thought it was compelling (you seem to have missed my reaction to that -- I am all for trying to lynch him tomorrow). Yes I changed my opinion on Bubbles after her lynch switch, and my cluelessness on finding her teammates was just that -- cluelessness -- but I am hoping we'll get one with BWT.

Also, Tranq is a guy.

#5259

Dingus Dangus.

#5260

DharmaHelper wrote:Dingus Dangus.

The dingus of the dangus is directly proportional to the dangus of the dingus. Dingus Dangus.

#5261

I hate to say this after being quiet (mostly) by choice for the last few days, but I'm headed out of town to Riot Fest in Chicago for the weekend and will certainly not be able to keep up with the thread. But I Looked over Rico's reads, and I'm startled by how good they seem to be. Will be checking in to vote BWT until the dude is dead.

#5262

Player Recruit odds Mafia odds - Ubzekistan Mafia odds - Azurenka

Spacedaisy Could be? Unsure Unsure
ISO:
Spoiler: show
D0 - finds Caelia/Ahriman civ aligned, but with grey areas; Terras followers def neutral
D1 - stance on civ-bad mentality, eyeballs those painting it as LMS
D1 - dislikes voting low contributers angle
D1 - doesn't think either Golden or Epig are bad, dislikes people nominating recruit pref
D1 - suspects BWTfor pedalling on Golden, based on JJJ's case
D1 - reiteration of anti-LMS stance, doesn't like TH's post (or MP, Tim, Rox)
D1 - votes Canuck for her neutrality stance
D2 - approves of Golden's rogue move
D2 - big post: disses complaints on Golden, MP recruiting debate, outcry at Typh's death
D2 - votes Bass for wanting to deflect attention
D3 - case on unfurl, votes her
D3 - wary on nutella, but for "switch meta" reasons; feels better afterwards
D3 - not warmed up by unfurl's rebuttals, but hopes for more input
D3 - reads rey and SVS sincere in Golden hunt, votes DH for stirring the pot
D4 - catch-up, votes Sorsha for suggesting a civ vigi pushed Epig's kill
D4 - still wary of unfurl's attitude, but swayed by others' dismissal of her case
D4 - surprised llama is suspected, doesn't find Boom suspicious, likes Scotty and Wilgy
D4 - switches to DH, because of a Sorsha rebuttal reading genuine
D4 - doesn't see Bubbles suspicious for indecisiveness
D5 - dislikes Bubbles' reaction to the switch, finds her trying to act innocent, votes TB
D5 - finds Wilgy's defense of Bubbles curious (in content and amount)
D6 - case on Llama, votes him
D8 - doesn't like Scotty's latest posts, doesn't reason
D8 - wouldn't have voted Wilgy
D8 - considers SVS's vote (due to Wilgy's case)
D8 - votes Syn, doesn't like BWT voters

Notable moodswings:
-- picks on Canuck, but nut Nutella
-- activity gone cold

Meta notes: would recruit in balanced way

Really unsure about her, her activity has gone real cold, with only moments of jumping on a case or stance and keeping pressure on that for the entire Day. Neither this, nor her previous "big posts", make me comfortable, because she really has an unlucky meta this past year of doing that as a blendy, but focused baddie (Death Note, Guess Who). Overall, if people are looking into under-the-radar players, I think they should read and make up their mind about SD in particular.

I think both her and LoRab's "playing for the civ cause" angle and demands are a bit twitchy, I think her big stance to treat this as a "civ vs bad" only refers to how the view will look in the end of the game, yet she eyeballed (and even voted) players like Canuck or timmer for their neutrality credo. Later on, she understands, instead, nutella's choice of keeping the distance. She wobbled re: Sorsha as well, from calling her "civ vigi killed Epi" ideas far-fetched to taking her off the hook for a one-liner rebuttal to SVS sounding genuine. Similarly, she never criticises Bubbles for her indecisiveness, but the next Day I think she was among the first to call her lynch reaction off.There is a part of that that makes me wonder if Bubbles wasn't her teammate and she had to readjust real quick to the lynch switch and to buss TB.

D8, considers voting SVS why? Voted Syn why? Mirrored Wilgy reluctance why?

Idk, these are kinda real pinges and not being able to give a verdict on her gameplay sort of unsettles me. Her sink in activity could be a recruited moodswing or a desire to stay low as unrecruited.

First of all, my gameplay is pretty much the same regardless, people just remember me fooling them in Death Note. In Guess Who I died like Day 2 or 3 when I was lynched. oh yeah, I really flew under the radar then. I did not find bubbles indecisiveness weird, I did find her reaction after her lynch save to be very weird. That is all there is to that, I'm not her teammate and I wasn't bussing her. I truly found her suspicious. I have reasons for not explaining my suspicions about Scotty. I think anyone with a civ minded outlook would understand why without me explaining what he said that was so suspicious. my activity has gone quieter because I have had a busier schedule of late, that's all. Working more second shifts which is when most of the rest of you guys are at home, playing mafia.

#5263

Oh, I almost forgot, you took my Nutella back and forth out of context. I said her attitude came across relive her baddie playstyle than civ. she replied that it was because of the neutral factor. She was saying it affected how she played. As in she isn't as cautious as she would have been if it were just straight up civ, where she tends to be more blends seeming because she flip flops a lot, is very unsure of herself. Because of her claiming neutral alignment she is saying there is not as much at stake for her so it isn't such a urgent need for caution for her, she can pursue suspicions freely. The point is not that she was saying it is more like LMS, just that the neutral affiliation she found herself in to be affecting how she was playing.

Nothing at all like Canuck's early assertions that this is a LMS game and everyone should see it like that and not like the normal civ vs baddie format. Which I do disagree with.

#5264

Boomslang wrote:[...]after being quiet (mostly) by choice for the last few days[...]

what does this mean

#5265

I voted position 4

#5266

Don't forget to get your night PM's in.

#5267

What's In a Name?

The Rogue Mercenary considered himself a pretty good guy. Well, not so much a good guy, but a useful guy. He had travelled to the area several weeks ago, hearing that war was coming, and believing that he'd find lots of good work for a person in his profession. Time had passed, and all the connections he had tried to make had been rejected. Bored and frustrated, he had begun to drink, and when he got drunk, he got pissed off. Maybe he would just show them all how valuable he could be to them by killing someone!

He staggered out of the watering hole he had wandered into while the sun was high in the sky, and was mildly surprised to see that it was night. He spotted someone walking just up the street and smiled, drawing his dagger. Drunk or not, his aim never failed. He would up and threw the dagger, which spiralled end over end toward nutella, who just happened to bend over at that point to inspect a pretty wildflower that was growing through the cobblestones. The dagger clattered past her, down the street, and she looked up in surprise to see a drunk mercenary bearing down on her.

She ran away as fast as she could, and, looking back, she saw the Rogue Mercenary trip over the wildflower and fall hard to the ground.

* * * * *

As the bag was pulled off timmer's head, he winced at the brightness of the torchlight, as he spat and wiped his mouth from the linty hair the bag had left on his lips. He saw that he stood in a wide circular stone room, whose walls were draped in shadow. Hooded figures stood in a circle around him - Warriors of the Shadows!

"Swear allegiance to Ubzargan, or face death!" cried one. "Your abilities are his to command!"

"Yes, I swear!" cried timmer. "All hail Ubzargaggle!"

"Ubzargan!" the Warrior barked angrily. "Swear to him!"

"I'm sorry, it's a hard name!" timmer began to sweat. "I swear to Uzbekistan!"

The Warriors growled and grew visibly angry. Timmer's eyes moved around furtively. "I swear to Ubzekiel! To Ubbazango! Ubzarlemagne!"

The Warriors shouted in rage and plunged their spears into timmer's body, many, many times.

* * * * *

DharmaHelper's journey took him from Terras' land into a hilly, rocky lowlands. As he moved along a narrow path, he found himself confronted by a mysterious figure. "Ho there," he said cautiously. "I seek a man called Tenquist, a very ancient man. Do you know him?"

"Tenquist..." the man spoke from under the broad brim of a black hat. "I met him once, many years ago. He he was in the service of Serenity the Technomagus."

"Yes!" said DH. "But that was so long ago. How could you have been there?"

The Immortal grinned. "I've been around a long time!" Before he was done speaking, he had already lashed out with a long whip, wrapping it around DharmaHelper's neck before he could react. As DH clawed at it, the Immortal spoke to him.

"No hard feelings, friend. You could say there's a big price on your head, and I want to get a piece of it!" He tugged the whip and pulled DH off-balance, sending him tumbling toward a sheer drop. The Immortal nodded as DH went over, listening to he scream of terror diminishing as he fell farther away to his doom. "No hard feelings." He repeated again, chuckling, and walked on down the path.

DH grinned, holding tight to the root he had grabbed just below the edge. His fake diminishing scream had worked! Pulling himself up, he set out again to find the enigmatic Tenquist.

nutella has not been killed by the Rogue Mercenary. DH was not killed by the Immortal. timmer, however, is quite dead at the hands of Team Ubzargan.

It is now Day 9, and the Position is 4.

#5268

Damn, all my friends keep dying.

#5269

There were 4 missing PM's

#5270

Keeper of Ravens wrote: Hello everybody

While I am able to post in the thread now, I also am pleased to send a message. The first message you read that appeared to be from me was actually from another. Chaos Danced with me and others that night. The message may have been from one evil.

#5271

Bummer man.

#5272

#5273

So with the lack of an Ubby kill, Ubby must be dead.

Wouldn't that be something

Maybe somebody accomplished some kind of....task of great magnitude

Shame about the failed Nightkills on me huh

Guess you could try again tonight

Or I mean, you could not

#5274

#5275

#5276

DharmaHelper wrote:So with the lack of an Ubby kill, Ubby must be dead.

Wouldn't that be something

Maybe somebody accomplished some kind of....task of great magnitude

Shame about the failed Nightkills on me huh

Guess you could try again tonight

Or I mean, you could not

We could lynch you today instead.

#5277

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:So with the lack of an Ubby kill, Ubby must be dead.

Wouldn't that be something

Maybe somebody accomplished some kind of....task of great magnitude

Shame about the failed Nightkills on me huh

Guess you could try again tonight

Or I mean, you could not
We could lynch you today instead.

#5278

DharmaHelper wrote:

Watchu do now boi

#5279

I'm so shocked.

#5280

rusticate rutilant. Also, athleticism are you Krewlod still agnosticism unshared kill DH? You just know he's not bad. Gryphon know unavoidable really piguid me off? Uzbekistan getting his way.

I'm sabulous drunk right now, if you can't tell...

#5281

consomme Spirit Oracle. HannaK

#5282

I remember HannaK. She was cool. Who do you guys want to lynch today? BWT?

#5283

Sorsha Black Rock I know I'm not making sense right now.

This sensibleness going to make You Lost Me difficult for me to make any sense today. I'm still going with my new strategy of following other people's leads this game. If anyone can understand me, I want to Formics some mammiliform points of view today.

I incredibility we NEED to medullary Ubzededder today, Dusty Spoon.

#5284

alphabetarian ignore those other names. I Devious Goodie to revisit who Rico pointed out Necromantic Fiend

#5285

Scotty wrote:alphabetarian ignore those other names. I Devious Goodie to revisit who Rico pointed out Necromantic Fiend

grrR

#5286

Sup Scotty

#5287

Spacedaisy wrote:

Player Recruit odds Mafia odds - Ubzekistan Mafia odds - Azurenka

Spacedaisy Could be? Unsure Unsure
ISO:
Spoiler: show
D0 - finds Caelia/Ahriman civ aligned, but with grey areas; Terras followers def neutral
D1 - stance on civ-bad mentality, eyeballs those painting it as LMS
D1 - dislikes voting low contributers angle
D1 - doesn't think either Golden or Epig are bad, dislikes people nominating recruit pref
D1 - suspects BWTfor pedalling on Golden, based on JJJ's case
D1 - reiteration of anti-LMS stance, doesn't like TH's post (or MP, Tim, Rox)
D1 - votes Canuck for her neutrality stance
D2 - approves of Golden's rogue move
D2 - big post: disses complaints on Golden, MP recruiting debate, outcry at Typh's death
D2 - votes Bass for wanting to deflect attention
D3 - case on unfurl, votes her
D3 - wary on nutella, but for "switch meta" reasons; feels better afterwards
D3 - not warmed up by unfurl's rebuttals, but hopes for more input
D3 - reads rey and SVS sincere in Golden hunt, votes DH for stirring the pot
D4 - catch-up, votes Sorsha for suggesting a civ vigi pushed Epig's kill
D4 - still wary of unfurl's attitude, but swayed by others' dismissal of her case
D4 - surprised llama is suspected, doesn't find Boom suspicious, likes Scotty and Wilgy
D4 - switches to DH, because of a Sorsha rebuttal reading genuine
D4 - doesn't see Bubbles suspicious for indecisiveness
D5 - dislikes Bubbles' reaction to the switch, finds her trying to act innocent, votes TB
D5 - finds Wilgy's defense of Bubbles curious (in content and amount)
D6 - case on Llama, votes him
D8 - doesn't like Scotty's latest posts, doesn't reason
D8 - wouldn't have voted Wilgy
D8 - considers SVS's vote (due to Wilgy's case)
D8 - votes Syn, doesn't like BWT voters

Notable moodswings:
-- picks on Canuck, but nut Nutella
-- activity gone cold

Meta notes: would recruit in balanced way

Really unsure about her, her activity has gone real cold, with only moments of jumping on a case or stance and keeping pressure on that for the entire Day. Neither this, nor her previous "big posts", make me comfortable, because she really has an unlucky meta this past year of doing that as a blendy, but focused baddie (Death Note, Guess Who). Overall, if people are looking into under-the-radar players, I think they should read and make up their mind about SD in particular.

I think both her and LoRab's "playing for the civ cause" angle and demands are a bit twitchy, I think her big stance to treat this as a "civ vs bad" only refers to how the view will look in the end of the game, yet she eyeballed (and even voted) players like Canuck or timmer for their neutrality credo. Later on, she understands, instead, nutella's choice of keeping the distance. She wobbled re: Sorsha as well, from calling her "civ vigi killed Epi" ideas far-fetched to taking her off the hook for a one-liner rebuttal to SVS sounding genuine. Similarly, she never criticises Bubbles for her indecisiveness, but the next Day I think she was among the first to call her lynch reaction off.There is a part of that that makes me wonder if Bubbles wasn't her teammate and she had to readjust real quick to the lynch switch and to buss TB.

D8, considers voting SVS why? Voted Syn why? Mirrored Wilgy reluctance why?

Idk, these are kinda real pinges and not being able to give a verdict on her gameplay sort of unsettles me. Her sink in activity could be a recruited moodswing or a desire to stay low as unrecruited.
First of all, my gameplay is pretty much the same regardless, people just remember me fooling them in Death Note. In Guess Who I died like Day 2 or 3 when I was lynched. oh yeah, I really flew under the radar then. I did not find bubbles indecisiveness weird, I did find her reaction after her lynch save to be very weird. That is all there is to that, I'm not her teammate and I wasn't bussing her. I truly found her suspicious. I have reasons for not explaining my suspicions about Scotty. I think anyone with a civ minded outlook would understand why without me explaining what he said that was so suspicious. my activity has gone quieter because I have had a busier schedule of late, that's all. Working more second shifts which is when most of the rest of you guys are at home, playing mafia.

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#5288

Me gusta la biblioteca. Grande paprika.

#5289

I work arr! from tabulation just a lucific up

ahahhhahahahahaaaAA Hahaahahhhaahahahha

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5290

bye Timmer. Glad I survived, and DH as well

Let's lynch bwt today.

#5291

ok wut

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RIPIYWGOU (if you were good or unrecruited), Tim. Good to see the other deaths failing. DH is a curious case, though, because I had in mind who he might be after the D6/N6 attempts, but that now doesn't make sense after last Night's attempt. Alternatively, I can spot at least two immune roles for last Night, but they don't match immunity for D6/N6.

Yikes @ Scotty! That's a nasty 5th language you learned.

I overslept a bit and I have to stop by work, so don't have time to reply to everything.

@Hosts: The front page says timmer was killed by Uzbloosh, the Host Post says he was done by Team Ubzagga. Which one is it?

@Hosts: Does a bad leader need to personally send in a kill PM? Can his teammates decide for him or for themselves, if he's AWOL, and send in a kill on his behalf?

@Hosts: Was there no kill attempt from the Executioner last Night?

Roxy, so far so good. I wouldn't mind a civ recruitement, though.

Nutella, oops @ Tranq's gender. At least I didn't write that much about her. HIM.

Spacedaisy, I'm never judgemental about the RL issues or busy schedules of any player who has or doesn't have the proper time to play, I'm sorry if it sounded that way, I just saw less of you the past Days, compared to the first.

And yeah, I know I'm still in the "home slug who still can't shake the addiction of making ISOs for 20+ people for three Days rather studying or writing on his PhD" category (school hours will start next week, tho, that should change things), but that last line was still a wee uncalled for, generally speaking. Also you're the second after late timmer to bring the "I have my reasons to not give reasons" argument, to which I'm sorry, but nope. This game is too role-maddening for me to even have the slightest idea what you could mean. Furthermore, wouldn't it be "civ minded" to actually make your suspicions as reasoned as possible?

Keeper of Gossips is not helpful one bit. Gee, I wonder who he might be.

MM, why did you vote Llama?

Voting BWT, but also watching any votes coming that way closely. I made my case, but everyone else should have their own take on it.
Except baddies, they are welcome to wagon.

#5292

Wow so much undeath.

I am going to review my thoughts.

#5293

Ricochet wrote:@Hosts: The front page says timmer was killed by Uzbloosh, the Host Post says he was done by Team Ubzagga. Which one is it? They are one and the same.

@Hosts: Does a bad leader need to personally send in a kill PM? Can his teammates decide for him or for themselves, if he's AWOL, and send in a kill on his behalf? BTSC teams can send in PMs for their whole team from any member.

@Hosts: Was there no kill attempt from the Executioner last Night?

No!

#5294

Long Con wrote:
Ricochet wrote:@Hosts: The front page says timmer was killed by Uzbloosh, the Host Post says he was done by Team Ubzagga. Which one is it? They are one and the same.

Damn, maybe my question was confusing with all the name banter. I meant if Ubzargan himself killed timmer or "his team" (i.e. someone else from the team) did.

I need to thoroughly check back if Ubzargan might be dead (but...that could only mean it was SVS!). But if MM's winning stats are genuine, then I think the team should have only lost one member (Bubbles being lynched) until now.

Anyway, confusing use of "team Ubzargan" term in the kill post is confusing.

#5295

Rest in peace Timmer.

Ah, the good old World Apart insanifier! I remember all those names

#5296

Is there a decoder available, too?

#5297

The team kill can be performed by anyone on the team in order to strategically avoid roleblocks, switches, and the like. Kills by "Ubzargan" and by "Team Ubzargan" are identical. Sorry for the confusion.

#5298

Long Con wrote:The team kill can be performed by anyone on the team in order to strategically avoid roleblocks, switches, and the like. Kills by "Ubzargan" and by "Team Ubzargan" are identical. Sorry for the confusion.

tracked flavor text uncivilized again!!!

Hahahahahahahahaaha aHahahahaahahaa

#5299

Holy shit, Scotty might have been hit by the Goochi-Goochi-Goo as well.

#5300

I'm up for a BWT lynch today. I think Rico's points were good ones, BWT's defenses have been thin and seem overly casual to the degree of damningness Rico brought up, and I think we should all follow through on getting this sorted (ESPECIALLY to force those people who were all "I suspect BWT to be Uzzy TOTES I DO, but let's just keep delaying the day we lynch him, kthanxbai" to actually do the deed).

Also, I'm not a big fan of the whole "I've been insanified, now I'm going to post 50000 times per day!" thing....unless what you are trying to say is, like, definitive awesome statements that need to be said RIGHT NOW, your posts are kinda just clutter at this point (amusing clutter, I'll grant....)

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

2014 Sockys
2015 Sockys
Miscellaneous

2014 Sockys
2015 Sockys
Miscellaneous

2014 Sockys
2015 Sockys
Miscellaneous

Game End!