Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

[Sorsha]

Looks like maybe I was wrong about him

Did you kill him so you wouldn't have to keep trying to get him lynched?

Nope, I was not involved in his death? Were you?

No. Do you think lorab was?

[aapje]

Looks like maybe I was wrong about him

Did you kill him so you wouldn't have to keep trying to get him lynched?

Nope, I was not involved in his death? Were you?

No. Do you think lorab was?

Interesting thought. If LR was bad I can see her wanting to keep Rico around in case the TH stuff doesn't work out. If their earlier back and forth is anything to go by people wouldn't touch their discussion with a 10 ft pole. Therefore I am leaning no.

[Scotty]

Looks like maybe I was wrong about him

Did you kill him so you wouldn't have to keep trying to get him lynched?

Nope, I was not involved in his death? Were you?

No. Do you think lorab was?

Interesting thought. If LR was bad I can see her wanting to keep Rico around in case the TH stuff doesn't work out. If their earlier back and forth is anything to go by people wouldn't touch their discussion with a 10 ft pole. Therefore I am leaning no.

Keep in mind LoRab was on Rico's ass the day before he died, and when he was rezz'd, I seem to remember LoRab held back a bit. Besides you, aapje, I would equate LoRab as the biggest detractor of Rico in the game as a whole.

Also, is the LoRab/TH thing still going on? Those 2 sort of stopped looking at each other like a disgruntled couple after 25 years of loveless marriage. She hasn't been pushing either Rico or TH of late. Why is that?

[Black Rock]

Turns out I need several replacements and this game needs it to work properly. I have thought about it a lot and I am going to choose dead to replace. I have also chosen my dead wisely. None of them have a bone to pick and everyone will know their old roles. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

[Marmot]

I get a sense of stagnation today. Unlike many days before today, (most) players are not committing to reads or votes today. This is likely to end badly.

[Scotty]

Turns out I need several replacements and this game needs it to work properly. I have thought about it a lot and I am going to choose dead to replace. I have also chosen my dead wisely. None of them have a bone to pick and everyone will know their old roles. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

I trust your judgment, though I'm not a fan of dead players coming back in. I realize you wouldn't do so unless you had no other choice.

[Sorsha]

I was thinking the kill could have been because no one wanted to keep going toe to toe with Rico because he was fighting back pretty hard.

All I got for now. I guess.

Whatever you feel like you have to do is fine BR

[Black Rock]

birdwithteeth11 will be replacing Boomslang effective immediately. He will not be able to be lynched today while he gets comfortable in his new skin.

[Marmot]

birdwithteeth11 will be replacing Boomslang effective immediately. He will not be able to be lynched today while he gets comfortable in his new skin.

I think Boomslang took offense to the attempted nightkill.

[Ricochet]

Turns out I need several replacements and this game needs it to work properly. I have thought about it a lot and I am going to choose dead to replace. I have also chosen my dead wisely. None of them have a bone to pick and everyone will know their old roles. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

No chance for me then.

[Spacedaisy]

People who I am suspicious of:
Boomslang: His last post 5(!) days ago pinged me and it seems I am not alone in that, seeing as Ahriman tried to kill him.
llama: SD made an interesting case on him here. Since then Wilgy has mentioned him in one of his last posts as someone to look into.
Roxy: She sounded frustrated at DH. At this point in the game I expect that the baddies will be a bit annoyed with his knack of survival so I wonder if that was the cause.

People who largely have been missing lately:
Bass
Boomslang
Tranq
Come out and play

I like this post. I'm thinking the two Ahriman kills looks really bad for Boomslang personally.

[Spacedaisy]

One of these things is not like the others:

DH - that only says it has been restarted not that we went back to the beginning off the previous night. No where is it stated for you to NOT to use your ability again.Do you think the baddies will not send in a kill target? Do you think everyone else is not submitting night their night action? Do you think it will all remain what it was going to be before the restart? Do you think it would be double targeting if they repeat actions?

Also yes isubmitted another night action - didn't you?

Oh well I changed mine bc it was a new night.

Roxy I think you are just plain wrong. It is still night 9. It is not a separate night, although actions have to be re-sent. They can be the same target as they were originally.

Yeah you already said this before and like before I just don't care - I am entitled to my own opinion.
I was told I could not use my power

I also like this post. I feel like Rox is being all kinds of weird over the night 9 stuff.

[Spacedaisy]

Well so much for Rico

That second Ahriman kill for DH just doesn't make sense at all. I highly doubt he would want to take out DH.

This. I can't see Ahriman trying to kill DH, which is what makes me feel suspicious of Boomslang.

[Marmot]

Roxy appears to be silenced and has already voted for Tranq.

[Spacedaisy]

Since the last recruitment opportunity for the baddies is out of the way all unrecruited player will either stay that way or they will be recruited by one of the baddie teams. So I suggest everyone playing the neutral game to channel their inner civvie

I don't understand, was the highlighted supposed to be baddie?

[Spacedaisy]

I wonder who is bad.

Who do you think is bad?

[Spacedaisy]

Since the last recruitment opportunity for the baddies is out of the way all unrecruited player will either stay that way or they will be recruited by one of the baddie teams. So I suggest everyone playing the neutral game to channel their inner civvie

Do you think the hosts would notify us if the baddie teams in fact recruited? Because based on BR's last post, it sure seemed like no one was biting.

I'm currently involved in setting up wedding stuff for my aunt, with events all over this week. Tis why I am not around as much

looking at Wilgy and Synonym interactions and voting patterns might be a good way to start weeding through who might be bad. Especially considering Wilgy's pattern. On phone right now, but he mentioned in one of his last posts to "lynch SVS, llama, possibly Tranq and bea"

To "lynch" someone as opposed to just "suspect" someone is a strong choice of words. He had to have gotten info from his role for at least one or some of those players.

I like this post too, you may be changing my mind about you Scotty.

I would say based on Wilgy and last night's events that my top choices for a vote would be boomslang, llama, tranq or bea. At the moment anyway.

[Marmot]

Boomslang/birdwithteeth is out of the question though Spacedaisy.

[Spacedaisy]

Boomslang/birdwithteeth is out of the question though Spacedaisy.

Oh is he off the poll?

[Marmot]

birdwithteeth11 will be replacing Boomslang effective immediately. He will not be able to be lynched today while he gets comfortable in his new skin.

[Spacedaisy]

Never mind, it don't know how I missed the giant green announcement. Ugh, I don't like him being off the poll, but that's fine... I think he shou,die a serious contender for the next lynch.

Linki: I just saw it

[Spacedaisy]

I get a sense of stagnation today. Unlike many days before today, (most) players are not committing to reads or votes today. This is likely to end badly.

Could be because the talkative players keep getting killed. Rez Jay and I'm sure that stagnation will change.

[Canucklehead]

I'm feeling a bit moorless in this game right now, tbh, which is entirely my fault for not doing enough to role research/keeping track of powers and missed things and all that Apple Monkey type stuff ( ).....and I honestly don't see that changing.
But I agree with apples that even the most neutral of neutrals need to essentially play as civvies now, because all the kills floating around are not great for the neutral win con, and helping the Cubs find the killers means we're less likely to be both nk'd and lynched....
But since I've been neutrality grand central for the game thus far, I'm a bit hooped for actually forming opinions on who's bad......damn my laziness-disguised-as-neutrality!

All that to say, I want to look at bea. She just has not been Civ bea this game AT ALL, and I think that the guilty conscience she's feeling and all her apologies stem from feeling like she's letting her teammates down. I haven't done a read-through of her yet, so no idea if I suspect her of one team more than the other yet....but my gut says baddie bea is afoot, and I need to follow my gut (if only as an attempt to get my head actually into the game....)

[Spacedaisy]

Looks like maybe I was wrong about him

Did you kill him so you wouldn't have to keep trying to get him lynched?

Nope, I was not involved in his death? Were you?

No. Do you think lorab was?

Interesting thought. If LR was bad I can see her wanting to keep Rico around in case the TH stuff doesn't work out. If their earlier back and forth is anything to go by people wouldn't touch their discussion with a 10 ft pole. Therefore I am leaning no.

I'm in agreement here. But at the same time, Rico wasn't going after her anymore either was he? Would she have reason to have killed him?

[Turnip Head]

I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

[Spacedaisy]

I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

This. Seeing as how Boomslang/bwt is not lynchable today. I'm putting my vote here as well because of reasons I've already stated plus Wilgy's statements.

Vote registered for Llama

[Spacedaisy]

Roxy appears to be silenced and has already voted for Tranq.

Someone didn't want Roxy talking today, wonder why? Perhaps a read through of who she was vocal about...

[Turnip Head]

Didn't Roxy post toDay?

[Spacedaisy]

Roxy I think you are just plain wrong. It is still night 9. It is not a separate night, although actions have to be re-sent. They can be the same target as they were originally.

Yeah you already said this before and like before I just don't care - I am entitled to my own opinion.
I was told I could not use my power

Sure enough, you are right TH. she posted this today.

[Marmot]

Didn't Roxy post toDay?

Ah, you're right. It says Night 9 in the title, but the post came on Day 10.

Still this is her only post of the day.

[Scotty]

I'm feeling a bit moorless in this game right now, tbh, which is entirely my fault for not doing enough to role research/keeping track of powers and missed things and all that Apple Monkey type stuff ( ).....and I honestly don't see that changing.
But I agree with apples that even the most neutral of neutrals need to essentially play as civvies now, because all the kills floating around are not great for the neutral win con, and helping the Cubs find the killers means we're less likely to be both nk'd and lynched....
But since I've been neutrality grand central for the game thus far, I'm a bit hooped for actually forming opinions on who's bad......damn my laziness-disguised-as-neutrality!

All that to say, I want to look at bea. She just has not been Civ bea this game AT ALL, and I think that the guilty conscience she's feeling and all her apologies stem from feeling like she's letting her teammates down. I haven't done a read-through of her yet, so no idea if I suspect her of one team more than the other yet....but my gut says baddie bea is afoot, and I need to follow my gut (if only as an attempt to get my head actually into the game....)

Did you mean to say that your laziness is disguised as neutral? Because that's what you just said. Makes it sound like you've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral.

Also, I would argue that you have looked opinionated all game. I don't know why you seem to think you haven't been.

[Turnip Head]

Hey Bullz, you gave someone (can't remember who) a lot of shit for harping on your non participation as soon as you were finally able to participate, and then you gave us a huge chunk of content in response to that, and then you went right back to not participating. How should we feel about that?

[Bullzeye]

Hey Bullz, you gave someone (can't remember who) a lot of shit for harping on your non participation as soon as you were finally able to participate, and then you gave us a huge chunk of content in response to that, and then you went right back to not participating. How should we feel about that?

This is not how things happened. I remained active for a while and then recently I've disappeared again. I'm not going to tell anyone why. Personal shit I had to deal with, and if that explanation isn't good enough I don't care. I'm still around, I just don't think I have much to add. Considering I've been wrong about practically everything so far, I don't think people are missing out on much. Am I the only quiet player?

[Bullzeye]

Also tbf I rarely have much to say during nights and we've just had a 48 hour long one...

[Turnip Head]

Okay.

[Scotty]

Since the last recruitment opportunity for the baddies is out of the way all unrecruited player will either stay that way or they will be recruited by one of the baddie teams. So I suggest everyone playing the neutral game to channel their inner civvie

Do you think the hosts would notify us if the baddie teams in fact recruited? Because based on BR's last post, it sure seemed like no one was biting.

I'm currently involved in setting up wedding stuff for my aunt, with events all over this week. Tis why I am not around as much

looking at Wilgy and Synonym interactions and voting patterns might be a good way to start weeding through who might be bad. Especially considering Wilgy's pattern. On phone right now, but he mentioned in one of his last posts to "lynch SVS, llama, possibly Tranq and bea"

To "lynch" someone as opposed to just "suspect" someone is a strong choice of words. He had to have gotten info from his role for at least one or some of those players.

I like this post too, you may be changing my mind about you Scotty.

I would say based on Wilgy and last night's events that my top choices for a vote would be boomslang, llama, tranq or bea. At the moment anyway.

I'm still unsure of what raised your suspicions in the first place. You have continued to ignore me on that matter, while simultaneously bringing up your opinion of me.



@Anyone
Do you think the Brutal Executioner is civ, baddie, or unrecruited?

[Sorsha]

I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

I've noticed that llama seemed much more laid back this game. That's not quite how I remember him being before but I haven't played in a year... Wasn't sure if this is a new llama or what.

@Anyone
Do you think the Brutal Executioner is civ, baddie, or unrecruited?

He killed Typhoony and Dom I know from the first page. Who were his other attempts?

[Black Rock]

I'm in the process of replacing DH and Bass. I'm just waiting for a PM to announce the replacements. They can't be lynched today.

[DharmaHelper]

#UnKillable.

[Draconus]

Since the last recruitment opportunity for the baddies is out of the way all unrecruited player will either stay that way or they will be recruited by one of the baddie teams. So I suggest everyone playing the neutral game to channel their inner civvie

I don't understand, was the highlighted supposed to be baddie?

Yeeaaaah. I'm pretty sure it read that the baddies wouldn't be recruiting anymore after that, and that the civvies would only be recruiting for non-btsc teammates going forward.

[Canucklehead]

I'm feeling a bit moorless in this game right now, tbh, which is entirely my fault for not doing enough to role research/keeping track of powers and missed things and all that Apple Monkey type stuff ( ).....and I honestly don't see that changing.
But I agree with apples that even the most neutral of neutrals need to essentially play as civvies now, because all the kills floating around are not great for the neutral win con, and helping the Cubs find the killers means we're less likely to be both nk'd and lynched....
But since I've been neutrality grand central for the game thus far, I'm a bit hooped for actually forming opinions on who's bad......damn my laziness-disguised-as-neutrality!

All that to say, I want to look at bea. She just has not been Civ bea this game AT ALL, and I think that the guilty conscience she's feeling and all her apologies stem from feeling like she's letting her teammates down. I haven't done a read-through of her yet, so no idea if I suspect her of one team more than the other yet....but my gut says baddie bea is afoot, and I need to follow my gut (if only as an attempt to get my head actually into the game....)

Did you mean to say that your laziness is disguised as neutral? Because that's what you just said. Makes it sound like you've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral.

Also, I would argue that you have looked opinionated all game. I don't know why you seem to think you haven't been.

Yes, I meant to say that I have been using the fact of my neutrality to disguise what, in any other game, would have looked like sheer laziness. This does not "make it sound like I've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral".... it makes it sound as if I've been using my neutrality opportunistically to not have to actually stick my head too deeply into the game.

Also, as regards my opinionatedness or lack thereof, I would argue that my impression of my own mindset at any given time is likely more accurate than your impression of my mindset, especially since I think you've played with me once before.....But hey, you do you, bae.

What are your thoughts on bea, since you completely ignored that part of my post?

[Marmot]

Hey Bullz, you gave someone (can't remember who) a lot of shit for harping on your non participation as soon as you were finally able to participate, and then you gave us a huge chunk of content in response to that, and then you went right back to not participating. How should we feel about that?

This is not how things happened. I remained active for a while and then recently I've disappeared again. I'm not going to tell anyone why. Personal shit I had to deal with, and if that explanation isn't good enough I don't care. I'm still around, I just don't think I have much to add. Considering I've been wrong about practically everything so far, I don't think people are missing out on much. Am I the only quiet player?

Are you usually watching the thread and responding to questions addressed to you so quickly?

[Marmot]

I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

I've noticed that llama seemed much more laid back this game. That's not quite how I remember him being before but I haven't played in a year... Wasn't sure if this is a new llama or what.

@Anyone
Do you think the Brutal Executioner is civ, baddie, or unrecruited?

He killed Typhoony and Dom I know from the first page. Who were his other attempts?

Night 1 - Typhoony - succeeded
Night 2 - MovingPictures07 - failed
Night 3 - None (Night ended early)
Night 4 - LoRab - failed
Night 5 - Dom - succeeded
Night 6 - JaggedJimmyJay - failed
Night 7 - None (Night ended early)
Night 8 - None (There was no kill attempt by the Brutal Executioner)
Night 9 - Metalmarsh89 - failed

[thellama73]

I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.

I'm voting for Metalmarsh. You should join me.

[Scotty]

I'm feeling a bit moorless in this game right now, tbh, which is entirely my fault for not doing enough to role research/keeping track of powers and missed things and all that Apple Monkey type stuff ( ).....and I honestly don't see that changing.
But I agree with apples that even the most neutral of neutrals need to essentially play as civvies now, because all the kills floating around are not great for the neutral win con, and helping the Cubs find the killers means we're less likely to be both nk'd and lynched....
But since I've been neutrality grand central for the game thus far, I'm a bit hooped for actually forming opinions on who's bad......damn my laziness-disguised-as-neutrality!

All that to say, I want to look at bea. She just has not been Civ bea this game AT ALL, and I think that the guilty conscience she's feeling and all her apologies stem from feeling like she's letting her teammates down. I haven't done a read-through of her yet, so no idea if I suspect her of one team more than the other yet....but my gut says baddie bea is afoot, and I need to follow my gut (if only as an attempt to get my head actually into the game....)

Did you mean to say that your laziness is disguised as neutral? Because that's what you just said. Makes it sound like you've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral.

Also, I would argue that you have looked opinionated all game. I don't know why you seem to think you haven't been.

Yes, I meant to say that I have been using the fact of my neutrality to disguise what, in any other game, would have looked like sheer laziness. This does not "make it sound like I've been playing neutral, but not actually neutral".... it makes it sound as if I've been using my neutrality opportunistically to not have to actually stick my head too deeply into the game.

Also, as regards my opinionatedness or lack thereof, I would argue that my impression of my own mindset at any given time is likely more accurate than your impression of my mindset, especially since I think you've played with me once before.....But hey, you do you, bae.

What are your thoughts on bea, since you completely ignored that part of my post?

I just learned what bae was yesterday. I feel old.

The phrasing was important to me in understanding. For example, a sheep wearing wolf's clothing is different than a wolf wearing sheep's clothing. Neutrality disguised as laziness ≠ Laziness disguised as neutrality. To me anyway.

But like, I get your point. That was just my impression.

You have been pushing that neutral card for a while. And I think you have stuck out your neck a bit at times. Your reads haven't been often, but they have been thorough and reasoned. I daresay that's pretty opinionated, madam.


As for your bea suspicions, I saw them. I have had bea on my radar for days now, but don't know how to commit to giving any kind of read to her. It's mostly been "I'm busy" or "I'm making pizza lol" or "The store just burned down" and various and sundry excuses. I don't know if I buy her excuses as a means of apologizing to her teammates. Aren't we feeling that civ numbers are down? What do the baddies have to complain about? We haven't even lynched an Azura team member!

[Scotty]

Also not looking forward to Ubzakmanfa;l nnsds%asmd changing the lynch today. I hate this position.

[Scotty]

I hope Bass replaces DH. And DFaraday replaces Bass.

[Bullzeye]

Hey Bullz, you gave someone (can't remember who) a lot of shit for harping on your non participation as soon as you were finally able to participate, and then you gave us a huge chunk of content in response to that, and then you went right back to not participating. How should we feel about that?

This is not how things happened. I remained active for a while and then recently I've disappeared again. I'm not going to tell anyone why. Personal shit I had to deal with, and if that explanation isn't good enough I don't care. I'm still around, I just don't think I have much to add. Considering I've been wrong about practically everything so far, I don't think people are missing out on much. Am I the only quiet player?

Are you usually watching the thread and responding to questions addressed to you so quickly?

No, not usually. Never deliberately.

[thellama73]

I hope Bass replaces DH. And DFaraday replaces Bass.

I hope Bass and DH replace each other.

[DharmaHelper]

Also not looking forward to Ubzakmanfa;l nnsds%asmd changing the lynch today. I hate this position.

Don't hold your breath, junior.