A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder - Day 8

[thellama73]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

I'm beginning to think so too, but am wary of you tricking me.

I am kind of tricksy, but then, so are you. I guess we just have to learn to cautiously trust each other.

[Marmot]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

What are you talking about? There's a role list on the front page.

[thellama73]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

What are you talking about? There's a role list on the front page.

Oh, there is now. There wasn't the last time I looked.

[birdwithteeth11]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

I'm beginning to think so too, but am wary of you tricking me.

I could get behind a further examination of MM.

[birdwithteeth11]

Actually, I have some stuff to take care of, but this afternoon I'm going to do some actual work in this game, and go back and re-read MM.

[Roxy]

so no one is going to look back on Elo? She has been so different this game it is unreal that I am the only one to notice - it is also why I think Epi was taken out early in a lycnh prob led by her teamies and since no one cba'ed to find their own suspicions ya'll are just playing follow the leader.

[thellama73]

so no one is going to look back on Elo? She has been so different this game it is unreal that I am the only one to notice - it is also why I think Epi was taken out early in a lycnh prob led by her teamies and since no one cba'ed to find their own suspicions ya'll are just playing follow the leader.

I'll consider it. She has seemed a little different this game. But I'm much more suspish of MetalMarsh for his eagerness to leap onto the "you said my team" bandwagon.

[Scotty]

I'm Alice confused by verticity. He even abducting to his anagoge. I mean, Swallowed Cork to Chaos Wizard but also guilty m8?

Was unreconciled just trolling?

I don't choky where that leaves my suspicions right now. I guess I'll look is that a piano? MM and Eloh, Zelda Eko. traitor thought I had him

[Elohcin]

What a day. First of all its been raining here for days and days. But today, the power went out while I was baking two birthday cakes and a wedding cake (yes, my oven fit it all). I also had a diswasher full of dishes, laundry in the washer and laundry in the dryer. This is my life I had to hand mix the last batch of batter and then transfer all my cakes to a couple ovens at Epi's place of work. Thank goodness we live in po-dunk Hoke and they see no problem with Mrs. Brown and her three chillin's in tow walk up into the school with pans full of half baked cake ready to use the culinary classroom while school is in session All is well now though, the power came back on a little bit ago and the cakes are ready to be frosted and decorated tomorrow.

I can't believe greybonez. Did he even really fight for himself? I hate to see that. Also, Roxy, I am not bad. I have acted a bit different this game, yes. I am trying to change up my game here and there so I am less readable. Too bad it just makes players think I am bad. You, however, have acted differently imo and you STILL have yet to give any evidence as to WHY you think I am bad except that I am "acting differently". Where are the quotes, man, where are the quotes?

[Marmot]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

What are you talking about? There's a role list on the front page.

Oh, there is now. There wasn't the last time I looked.

There was definitely one at this point. But maybe DF doesn't like such standard hosting methods.

[Dom]

I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

I'm beginning to think so too, but am wary of you tricking me.

I am kind of tricksy, but then, so are you. I guess we just have to learn to cautiously trust each other.

The only time I have ever trusted you was in The Hobbit.

What a day. First of all its been raining here for days and days. But today, the power went out while I was baking two birthday cakes and a wedding cake (yes, my oven fit it all). I also had a diswasher full of dishes, laundry in the washer and laundry in the dryer. This is my life I had to hand mix the last batch of batter and then transfer all my cakes to a couple ovens at Epi's place of work. Thank goodness we live in po-dunk Hoke and they see no problem with Mrs. Brown and her three chillin's in tow walk up into the school with pans full of half baked cake ready to use the culinary classroom while school is in session All is well now though, the power came back on a little bit ago and the cakes are ready to be frosted and decorated tomorrow.

I can't believe greybonez. Did he even really fight for himself? I hate to see that. Also, Roxy, I am not bad. I have acted a bit different this game, yes. I am trying to change up my game here and there so I am less readable. Too bad it just makes players think I am bad. You, however, have acted differently imo and you STILL have yet to give any evidence as to WHY you think I am bad except that I am "acting differently". Where are the quotes, man, where are the quotes?

[Sorsha]

Llama could also be asquith sr.

I think this is more likely than him being Monty.

I do want MM or greyboneZ lynched next. Can we do that next time?

Why do you think that it's more likely that llama is Asquith Sr. than Monty?

[Sorsha]

so no one is going to look back on Elo? She has been so different this game it is unreal that I am the only one to notice - it is also why I think Epi was taken out early in a lycnh prob led by her teamies and since no one cba'ed to find their own suspicions ya'll are just playing follow the leader.

I wibble wobbled on her all game. I found her suspicious for an early ping, then gave her the botd, then found her suspicious again but she was insanified so no one wanted to lynch her, then we came back around to greybonez. I'd say I'm still suspicious of her but other things keep coming up to lead me away.

[Scotty]

Llama could also be asquith sr.

I think this is more likely than him being Monty.

I do want MM or greyboneZ lynched next. Can we do that next time?

Why do you think that it's more likely that llama is Asquith Sr. than Monty?

Willow Rosenberg specifically as I said earlier the odds of him having anxiousseat civ role martinet better than him being Monty.

He seemed pretty compressibility he was going home yesterday. Though Merlin the Wizzard could be acting.

[Sorsha]

Why are you all of a sudden insanified? You were talking normal during day 4

[thellama73]

What a day. First of all its been raining here for days and days. But today, the power went out while I was baking two birthday cakes and a wedding cake (yes, my oven fit it all). I also had a diswasher full of dishes, laundry in the washer and laundry in the dryer. This is my life I had to hand mix the last batch of batter and then transfer all my cakes to a couple ovens at Epi's place of work. Thank goodness we live in po-dunk Hoke and they see no problem with Mrs. Brown and her three chillin's in tow walk up into the school with pans full of half baked cake ready to use the culinary classroom while school is in session All is well now though, the power came back on a little bit ago and the cakes are ready to be frosted and decorated tomorrow.

I can't believe greybonez. Did he even really fight for himself? I hate to see that. Also, Roxy, I am not bad. I have acted a bit different this game, yes. I am trying to change up my game here and there so I am less readable. Too bad it just makes players think I am bad. You, however, have acted differently imo and you STILL have yet to give any evidence as to WHY you think I am bad except that I am "acting differently". Where are the quotes, man, where are the quotes?

Ah man, you were so close, but you tipped your hand here. Good playing from you this game, though. I look forward to next time.

[DFaraday]

Why are you all of a sudden insanified? You were talking normal during day 4

Scotty admitted that he forgot to be insanified during Day 4, so I let him be insanified for the night to make it up.

Also, night post shortly.

[Turnip Head]

rezz plz

[DFaraday]

Night 4 - Bye Bye Birdie

BWT walked into the ballroom. A bear jumped out and ate him.

BWT has been killed by Monty. It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

[DFaraday]

Sorry for the succinct night post, I had no time to write one today. Tomorrow's will be better.

[Scotty]

RIP BWT

I do think that Dom and Sorsha are the most trustworthy here, however I hope that mafia wouldn't kill one of their own to fuck with me.

Sorsha, do you see Llama as more likely Monty?

Llama, are you voting Elo?

Splints, any ideas? You've been fairly absent, and your main contribution was agreeing with me about my points with greyboneZ.

Going through BWT's posts to see if I can get a read on any info he may have gleaned.

And I guess TH too, since he wants a rezz and may have some info.

[Scotty]

Pssssshaaa as an addendum to my last post, I assume that one of Dom/Sorsha/Llama is Monty. But which one is it? I mean, mafia wouldn't attack Monty at night just to prove a point, would they?

Also, if the show is any indication, Phoebe Dysquith could be someone that could be a Benedict Arnold. She is one of his love interests in a triangle of sorts, after all.

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You know what else is actually really bothering me? Golden has only 35 posts this game, and it's Day 5. Granted, it's not like there's a bevy of posts thus far, but it seems out of character.

Can anyone tell me a game in which Golden has had so few votes? Can anyone vouch for his activity when he is a baddie?

[Scotty]

Hey Golden, are you bad?

Nope, are you?

Cute.

TH was all over Golden's ass before succumbing to death. Golden's suspects have been varied, for sure.
He voted Llama on Day 1.
He voted TH on Day 2. DH died that night. Expressed relief that Sorsha had lived, since he "already felt good about [her]".

I do plan to vote and I do not plan to vote for you, llama.

I suspect Eloh, but find it a bit rough to lynch her while insanified. Especially when, as Dom said, it can't be a baddie tactic that she is insanified.

I am currently considering a vote for daisy, because:

1) When I was on her baddie team in guess who, she was similarly very quiet in the thread; and
2) I'd rather lynch people who I think are bad, rather than lynch people because it's 'less boring', and I'm not sure what motivated her to say that.

Quite a change from his Day 1 ping and vote for Llama. Why the switch? No discernible reason or explanation as far as I can tell.

He voted GreyBonez both day 3 and 4. Quite the followthrough. Of course I look worse for wear for leading that charge, but we know that greyboneZ was NOT bad, so that vote is a safe place to hide.

Another driveby for greybonez. That does it. I'll give Daisy a chance to respond, I'm voting greybonez.

Unfortunately, that doesn't help me.

It may. Sorsha was willing to vote that way. Daisy couldn't call it boring...

(If Grey is bad, I think you could be his teammate anyway, so saving you was not my first priority).

Llama could also be asquith sr.

Greybonez/MM/Eloh would make sense to me as a team. Scotty is bothering me, though, in that his views just changed a lot from being llama to now being greybonez/eloh team. I almost wonder if it could be Greybonez/Scotty/MM and if scotty is setting up the lynch of one of his own so that he can turn it on to Eloh tomorrow. Also, from day one greybonez/llama still makes a decent amount of sense.

Anyway, putting that all together I think a greybonez vote is the way to go, I'm on board.

Ah, on the flip side it could vindicate Llama if grey flipped good..it would be a good set up.

From my telescope observatory up in the clouds, I see a distinct possibility that Golden is bad, and is defending Llama.

Llama is one of a pool of people I haven't ruled out as a possible baddie, but him being bad would be more circumstantial - I haven't had any baddie vibes from him, and for me the worst strike against llama is greybonez day one drive by vote.

bullsuit.

Llama's vote pinged me.

Because after originally bringing up lacey as an absentee, when he voted it he said he was doing it to 'piss off roxy', and that felt like a way of pre-empting any possible suspicion he could take from roxy so he could paint it as a reaction to him saying he wanted to piss her off, to me.

Now the thing that's giving me a hard time to see him on the same team as Llama here is that he tied the vote- 2 for llama, 2 for Epi. It wasn't until greybonez sniped Epi that llama pulled ahead.


Golden has kept a safe distance from llama after day 1, and only uses the "llama could be bad" as dependent on greyboneZ' flipping bad. Which he would know was not the case, if he were mafia.

[Golden]

Gah, I just lost my post.

Long story short.

What is a benedict arnold?

Dom can't be monty. Sorsha could, I guess, but I've felt good about her all game. Llama would be my pick.

Yes, I've posted less. Welcome to a game in which I haven't had to constantly defend myself. My post counts are traditionally high because of how much effort I put in to trying to demonstrate to people why I am not bad.

Despite only having 35, I'm right up there eh?

linki - I guess thats about to change.

[Golden]

Oops, also, I let Eloh go yesterday because of consensus pick and the day before because she was insanified, but I would still like to lynch her today.

[Scotty]

Gah, I just lost my post.

Long story short.

What is a benedict arnold?

Dom can't be monty. Sorsha could, I guess, but I've felt good about her all game. Llama would be my pick.

Yes, I've posted less. Welcome to a game in which I haven't had to constantly defend myself. My post counts are traditionally high because of how much effort I put in to trying to demonstrate to people why I am not bad.

Despite only having 35, I'm right up there eh?

linki - I guess thats about to change.

heh.

oh, benedict arnold is a man who betrayed American colonists to the British during the revolutionary war.

Why can't Dom be Monty? Because of host error?

[Scotty]

And I wouldn't put it past a smart mafia team to put out a kill attempt on Monty. Gives dat street cred, especially if a mafia member has a green mushroom.

[Golden]

Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?

[Golden]

And I wouldn't put it past a smart mafia team to put out a kill attempt on Monty. Gives dat street cred, especially if a mafia member has a green mushroom.

I'd pull that move for sure, it's definitely one that is in the bag of tricks. I think there are others who would too (like MM, llama - possibly you!). I just go on the fact that Sorsha is the person I think is least likely to be bad based on the thread. I get good vibes from her.

[Marmot]

I'm surprised that I am actually still leading the post count.

[Scotty]

Actually, @Sorsha: what is your opinion of Golden? You two haven't interacted all game.

linki- well aside from her survival on night 2 (3?) what preempted your good vibes on her Golden?

[Golden]

Actually, @Sorsha: what is your opinion of Golden? You two haven't interacted all game.

linki- well aside from her survival on night 2 (3?) what preempted your good vibes on her Golden?

Possibly the fact she seems to have been seeing the game the same way I have lol. I don't know, I just feel like she has made sense and looked good, to me. I haven't seen anything that I feel like could be deliberate manipulation (eg, like Eloh using strong adjectives to rile up Roxy). Gut feels.

[Scotty]

Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?

wait what? I missed that. Where was that revealed?

[Golden]

Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?

wait what? I missed that. Where was that revealed?

Didn't you just say it?

[Marmot]

Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?

wait what? I missed that. Where was that revealed?

Dom was un-nightkilled, wasn't he?

[Scotty]

Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them. ok. your defending on FB isn't straight defending. I mean, you did vote for him on Day 1. It takes some extraction to read between the lines here.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not. So now you think llama has a "good chance" pf being bad. Interesting.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?

[Scotty]

Dom was un-nightkilled, wasn't he?

Yes, but I just read back and don't see anywhere Dom's role revealed when the host reset the dominoes.

[Marmot]

Dom was un-nightkilled, wasn't he?

Yes, but I just read back and don't see anywhere Dom's role revealed when the host reset the dominoes.

Nightkills aren't revealed on this site (unless it's TSM).

Where did you say that Dom was Phoebe?

[Scotty]

So I'm gonna vote for either Llama or Golden today.

Golden, how likely are you of voting Llama today, seeing as you now think there is a "good chance" he is bad?

linki- MM...Golden said that. I was asking him where he learned that piece of info.

[Marmot]

Pssssshaaa as an addendum to my last post, I assume that one of Dom/Sorsha/Llama is Monty. But which one is it? I mean, mafia wouldn't attack Monty at night just to prove a point, would they?

Also, if the show is any indication, Phoebe Dysquith could be someone that could be a Benedict Arnold. She is one of his love interests in a triangle of sorts, after all.

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You know what else is actually really bothering me? Golden has only 35 posts this game, and it's Day 5. Granted, it's not like there's a bevy of posts thus far, but it seems out of character.

Can anyone tell me a game in which Golden has had so few votes? Can anyone vouch for his activity when he is a baddie?

Well, you didn't it appears. You just said Phoebe could be a Benedict.

Linki: I'd already voted llama.

[Golden]

Yeah, I read back too, Dom's role isn't revealed.

I just misread scotty's post, where he was talking about dom, sorsha, monty, phoebe, and got confused. I was trying to point out to Scotty his own logic. I think that thought process would have been clearer if I hadn't lost that big post.

[Scotty]

Yeah, I would imagine Dom would have a smaller chance of being Monty due to the host not realizing he was alive. Monty's built-in extra life would make it harder to miss, I would think.

Anyway, I need to be up in 4 hours, so I'm voting Golden. I won't be around much tomorrow, so I need to vote now in case I don't make it.

[Golden]

@scotty - I would prefer a vote on eloh.

And given dom is in the mix for being monty, that reduces the chance for llama being monty too. I hadn't thought about monty being one of the NKed people before, but I guess it can be dom.

I think more likely is Dom was protected by the reverend...

Also scotty, you've pointed out my vote for llama on day one tying the vote. It was legit, and very early to bus a teammate like that... although I guess if llama is monty that would be less meaningful.

Anyway, I would consider my vote possibilities for today

1) eloh
2) llama

Noone else.

[Scotty]

Even if my case on Golden/Llama isn't right, I think there is still a connection to Sorsha as well. That's something I intend to monitor.

Also, llama's still got me in his back pocket, and it smells like an alpaca petting zoo around here.

@scotty - I would prefer a vote on eloh.

And given dom is in the mix for being monty, that reduces the chance for llama being monty too. I hadn't thought about monty being one of the NKed people before, but I guess it can be dom.

I think more likely is Dom was protected by the reverend...

Also scotty, you've pointed out my vote for llama on day one tying the vote. It was legit, and very early to bus a teammate like that... although I guess if llama is monty that would be less meaningful.

Anyway, I would consider my vote possibilities for today

1) eloh
2) llama

Noone else.

Golden, that was what I led with today- Dom, Sorsha, and llama are the candidates for Monty here. AND if the reverend saved Dom, then of COURSE he's not Monty. Monty would live through that either way.

Your logic gate is flapping limply in the wind tonight, my man.

[Golden]

What was wrong with my logic?

[Scotty]

[/quote]

What was wrong with my logic?

If the reverend saved Dom, then of COURSE he's not Monty. Monty would live through that either way.

[Golden]

Oh, me trying to explain why I'm not llama's teammate.

Well, I mean... I know I'm not. I didn't think that the whole way through, because it seemed logical when I began the sentence. It was less logical when I thought about the fact that the argument is that he is Monty.

All I know, Scotty, is that I'm not bad. You've voted for me now, so I can't change that. I'm not trying to protect llama and I don't have much I can say in the way of defence there. It probably doesn't help that its Friday night and I'm not at my sharpest, I'm having my Friday night unwind blob.

I'll be more engaged tomorrow

linki - Umm... that seems like your logic fail. I would say someone could still be monty even if saved by the reverend?

But all I'm saying is, from the position of someone who has hosted a bit... it's more likely you forget that someone has been targetted, rather than forget a part of their role. In my experience. I have just been assuming Dom was protected by the rev all game, clearly I shouldn't be assuming though.

[Sorsha]

RIP BWT

I do think that Dom and Sorsha are the most trustworthy here, however I hope that mafia wouldn't kill one of their own to fuck with me.

Sorsha, do you see Llama as more likely Monty?

Out of the three of us that have survived death, yes I do. I'm biased on this opinion but- I don't think the mafia team would burn Monty's one extra life to try to make a player look like he/she isn't Monty. I think I know why Dom and I both survived.

I'm just not sure why you were saying it's more likely that llama is Asquith Sr. Like... You jumped in there pretty quick to point out that it was more likely that he was Asquith vs Monty. If you know who Monty really is I could understand that certainty.

[Golden]

Did Scotty say that, or was he quoting me in his case against me? (I don't know, I can't find it either way, but I know I said I thought llama could be at some point).

[Sorsha]

This was the post Golden. I'm just wondering why it's more likely that llama would be Asquith than Monty.

Llama could also be asquith sr.

I think this is more likely than him being Monty.

I do want MM or greyboneZ lynched next. Can we do that next time?