Twin Peaks Mafia FIRST GAME: {GAME OVER}

#1201

Coul it be that Mata is trying to protect Russ for some reason?

#1202

Vompatti wrote:
Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:If it's certain that Russ is a recruit I'm not going to vote for anyone but him.
its equally as certain that Llama is a recruit. Are you against forming a voting plan with the rest of us?
How is it equally as certain?

he and russti both had votes yesterday. That makes it an equal chance.

#1203

thellama73 wrote:Coul it be that Mata is trying to protect Russ for some reason?

You have already voted Russ, he's no longer a concern.

#1204

Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:If it's certain that Russ is a recruit I'm not going to vote for anyone but him.
its equally as certain that Llama is a recruit. Are you against forming a voting plan with the rest of us?
How is it equally as certain?
he and russti both had votes yesterday. That makes it an equal chance.

Not really. I explained how multiple recruits could have voted for the same civvie, who was protected. There is no logical reason for Vompatti to doubt Russ' baddieness, however.

Linki: Yes, but if you think we are both equally likely to be bad, why are you insisting on lynching me when Russ already has a vote and it looks like he will soon have two?

#1205

thellama73 wrote:
Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:If it's certain that Russ is a recruit I'm not going to vote for anyone but him.
its equally as certain that Llama is a recruit. Are you against forming a voting plan with the rest of us?
That's not true from Vomps' perspective. The only one he can be truly sure about is Russ. Why are you so insistent that I be lynched over Russ if you think we are both recruits?

Because you are doing too much open manipulation, all through the game. And with you and now Vomps trying to swing the attention over to Russ, I have to wonder why. I dont think its for a good reason.

#1206

Matahari said that it's equally likely that Russ and I are recruits, yet she is arguing tooth and nail for me over Russ. Does that make sense to anyone? I have a very clear motivation to want Russ over myself, but she has no motivation to want me over Russ unless she is hiding something.

She says she wants to lynch me because I am talking more, but if I am a confirmed baddie then what does it matter what I say? Everyone will just ignore me anyway.

#1207

thellama73 wrote:
Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Matahari wrote:
Vompatti wrote:If it's certain that Russ is a recruit I'm not going to vote for anyone but him.
its equally as certain that Llama is a recruit. Are you against forming a voting plan with the rest of us?
How is it equally as certain?
he and russti both had votes yesterday. That makes it an equal chance.
Not really. I explained how multiple recruits could have voted for the same civvie, who was protected. There is no logical reason for Vompatti to doubt Russ' baddieness, however.

Linki: Yes, but if you think we are both equally likely to be bad, why are you insisting on lynching me when Russ already has a vote and it looks like he will soon have two?

Because you and Russ both need a vote, and Vomps also needs a vote.

Then the other not so suspicious players need to decide who to vote after that.

linki- and yes, I hope everyone but your teammates will ignore you.

#1208

Why do vomps and russ both need a vote when only one of them can be a recruit (unless the other was recruited on Day 4, which would have been silly of BOB given much attention they are getting)?

#1209

Wait a second! I'm not understanding any of your math, llama. Why am I more likely bad than you mathematically? We were both covered last night.

I felt really good about both you and Vomps yesterday, but it's becoming more and more apparent that you bandwagoned onto my suspicion of BWT and are now scapegoating me.

#1210

I'm not a recruit so I don't need a vote. It seems Mata might need one though.

*votes Russ*

#1211

thellama73 wrote:Coul it be that Mata is trying to protect Russ for some reason?

Could it be you are trying to razzle dazzle us?

Oh Vomps! Don't vote Rusti he already has a vote - vote for llama please to prove t=your loyalty to the civ's.

oh no Rusti is being spacegoated :o

#1212

Vompatti wrote:I'm not a recruit so I don't need a vote. It seems Mata might need one though.

*votes Russ*

you are so bad

#1213

thellama73 wrote:Why do vomps and russ both need a vote when only one of them can be a recruit (unless the other was recruited on Day 4, which would have been silly of BOB given much attention they are getting)?

Looks like for sure Vomps is a recruit

#1214

I agree, we're right about Llama, Vomps, and probably Russ as well. Unless someone got protected, or roleblocked last night, I'm guessing all 3 of them are bad. Now to ferret out who the newest recruit is.... and decide which one seems likeliest to be Bob.

#1215

Roxy wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Why do vomps and russ both need a vote when only one of them can be a recruit (unless the other was recruited on Day 4, which would have been silly of BOB given much attention they are getting)?
Looks like for sure Vomps is a recruit

I don't understand this mathematics.

#1216

Russtifinko wrote:Wait a second! I'm not understanding any of your math, llama. Why am I more likely bad than you mathematically? We were both covered last night.

Simplicity itself, my dear russ.

We know from the last NK that one of the group [Roxy, BWT, Rus and Vomps] has to be a recruit.
We know it is not BWT, because of how he flipped.
We know it is not Roxy, because she was uncovered on all previous nights when there was no NK.
It is there fore either Vomps or Russ.

We know from the last NK that one of the group [llama, SVS, Kate, MP and Mata] is a recruit.

Setting aside coverage for a moment, there is a guaranteed 1/2 chance that Russ is a baddie.
There is only a guaranteed 1/5 chance that I am a baddie.

Now, we know that last night I was covered and Russ was covered, that there were three potential night kills, and that none went through.
Now I happen to know that the coverage info is not telling the whole story. It's fine if you don't believe me, but if you accept that there's even a slight chance of that possibility, you need a tie breaker between me and Russ. Why not let probability be that tie breaker?

#1217

That is a good song, Roxy, but if you are going with coverage for finding baddies, why do you object to a russ vote over me, just like Mata? If we are both bad, what difference does it make which one of us dies?

Good man, Vomps. I'm glad someone in this thread understands logic.

#1218

Well, you won't believe me about myself, it seems, but please at least cover those 2. However, I'd strongly prefer it if we could lynch one of them instead. Lynching me would probably be game over. Can we agree on one?

#1219

B/c llama, my good friend, Rusti already had a vote he does not need two.

linky- Rusti - If we agree on one it was llama

#1220

Linki with llama: thanks for the clarification. That's definitely clever math. However, it also leaves a 50% chance Vomps is the bad one, no? So why push for me over him if you're not protecting him? It also completely ignores BOB, as well as Ben (if indeed he has been recruited, as I believe based on last night).

#1221

Russtifinko wrote:Linki with llama: thanks for the clarification. That's definitely clever math. However, it also leaves a 50% chance Vomps is the bad one, no? So why push for me over him if you're not protecting him? It also completely ignores BOB, as well as Ben (if indeed he has been recruited, as I believe based on last night).

You are right, but I push for you over him because you were covered and he was not.

Roxy, you ignored my question. If both me and Russ are covered, why do you prefer to lynch me instead of russ?

#1222

Rusti if you vote for llama I will be likely to give you botd for today.

B/c I for sure believe you are bad llama and Rusti not as strongly

#1223

I think Vomps was probs blocked from killing tbh

#1224

Roxy wrote: B/c I for sure believe you are bad llama and Rusti not as strongly

Why?

#1225

well, Vomps has proved that he is bad, thats established. And it proves that Llama is bad, because vomps is trying to protect him. which is making me believe that somehow, some way, Llama is Bob.

#1226

Matahari wrote:well, Vomps has proved that he is bad, thats established. And it proves that Llama is bad, because vomps is trying to protect him. which is making me believe that somehow, some way, Llama is Bob.

I can't wait for Alex to get back and see the cascades of illogic coming from you and Roxy. You two are definitely bad.

#1227

thellama73 wrote:
Matahari wrote:well, Vomps has proved that he is bad, thats established. And it proves that Llama is bad, because vomps is trying to protect him. which is making me believe that somehow, some way, Llama is Bob.
I can't wait for Alex to get back and see the cascades of illogic coming from you and Roxy. You two are definitely bad.

Seconded.

#1228

Also, If "somehow, some way, I am BOB" you shouldn't want to lynch me today. You should want to lynch a recruit, as I pointed out earlier.

#1229

Idk why llama - it's just a vibe thing - it's how I play. You have been coming up with these wild lynch plans that no one agrees with except Vomps. You kept saying I was a recruit when it was quite impossible. You tried so hard to throw suspicion at Kate after Nev's lynch. Shall I continue?

No Mata I think MP is Bob

#1230

Roxy wrote:Idk why llama - it's just a vibe thing - it's how I play. You have been coming up with these wild lynch plans that no one agrees with except Vomps. You kept saying I was a recruit when it was quite impossible. You tried so hard to throw suspicion at Kate after Nev's lynch. Shall I continue?

No Mata I think MP is Bob

That's fair enough. I mostly play from the gut too.

#1231

frankly I don't care wtf MP says I know you two are bad.

#1232

It will be fun to find out who is right!

#1233

Wow, I just realized we have a long time left on this poll! It seems like I'll have to vote llama regardless, although Vomps seems very bad as well. I'll wait a bit to hear from Kate, MP, and others, but I for one think we need some direction now instead of waiting until the last minute again, so I won't be waiting too long.

#1234

Russtifinko wrote:Wow, I just realized we have a long time left on this poll! It seems like I'll have to vote llama regardless, although Vomps seems very bad as well. I'll wait a bit to hear from Kate, MP, and others, but I for one think we need some direction now instead of waiting until the last minute again, so I won't be waiting too long.

Vote for yourself, Russ. It's the honorable thing to do.

#1235

Hey, can I just take a moment to say how well everyone is playing this game? Whoever the bad guys are have really excelled at seeming credible. Give yourselves a round of applause.

#1236

yah it will llama

ya know I really enjoy mafia'ing with you all

linky lmao llama

Rusti vote llama

#1237

Roxy wrote:Idk why llama - it's just a vibe thing - it's how I play. You have been coming up with these wild lynch plans that no one agrees with except Vomps. You kept saying I was a recruit when it was quite impossible. You tried so hard to throw suspicion at Kate after Nev's lynch. Shall I continue?

No Mata I think MP is Bob

I'm glad someone else feels antsy about MP.

#1238

Roxy wrote: ya know I really enjoy mafia'ing with you all

No doubt. This is the most fun I've had on this site so far. INH deserves credit, as do my worthy adversaries.

#1239

what if kate, SVS and Mp are Bob and co? For fun lets discuss this possibilty

#1240

Roxy wrote:what if kate, SVS and Mp are Bob and co? For fun lets discuss this possibilty

I keep going back and forth on Kate and SVS. Every so often I think they have been in cahoots the whole time, but at the moment I am inclined to think you are Bob, mata is a recruit, Russ is a recruit and one more who I haven't pinned down yet.

#1241

Roxy wrote:yah it will llama

ya know I really enjoy mafia'ing with you all

linky lmao llama

Rusti vote llama

I agree, this has been the most exciting game I've been a part of so far. Kudos to llama and Vomps (and everyone, really) for playing this game so well.

Linki:

Holy crap, Rox. Haha I was in the middle of posting that I'd vote llama. I suppose it's possible. What makes you think so?

#1242

thellama73 wrote:Hey, can I just take a moment to say how well everyone is playing this game? Whoever the bad guys are have really excelled at seeming credible. Give yourselves a round of applause.

agreed. there has been some really good play going on, and alot of smooth talking.

#1243

It seems there's no way we can both cover every recruit and make sure they won't manipulate the lynch. Anyway, whoever is good (I'm assuming Kate and SVS), I hope you won't waste any votes on me or llama. Furthermore, if you're going to cover either Mata or Roxy, I strongly suggest you cover Roxy.

#1244

That is exactly what I thought you would post llama. Why do you keep on insisting I am Bob since I proved I wasn't a recruit to you? You couldn't stick me with being a recruit then suddenly I am Bob. The same way Kate was Bob after the Nev lynch

Rusti - It was just to see what llama would say

#1245

Rox- because your actions and suggestions have made no sense to me for most of the game, and since you can't be a recruit, that leads me to think you are Bob. Why, who do you think is Bob?

#1246

Rusti did ya vote llama?

linky - llama I already said I thought MP was Bob.

#1247

Oh right, nevermind, disregard my last post.

#1248

Roxy wrote:Rusti did ya vote llama?

linky - llama I already said I thought MP was Bob.

Russ isn't going to vote me. He loves me!

#1249

Hahaha ok. You had me extremely confused, Rox.

I'll go for it then. votes llama

Linki: Sorry, llama! I do love playing with you, but I don't trust you this game. And nice walrus, Roxy!

#1250

I would have been stunned if Russ had voted for someone other than me or llama.

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